Re: SY ANNOUNCEMENT 2pm 4/7/13

by Philthecynic 05.07.13 13:28

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Sroll down to Redwood.

At 2:21.
Lip licking, tongue out to interviewer, (distain?) lips tightly closed.

WHAT has he just 'let slip'?

Trying to retract/ 'take back' subconsciously?

Just like SH!

Is he lying about all this 'new stuf,f, which imo, he has been told to say, to try to justify all the millions for the case of a single child?
Where are the unlimitless millions available for EVERY other 'missing' child?

Why is the cost not being met by THE FUND? We are told it's sole purpose is to aid the search for Madeleine, what better way to spend it than by funding the Met investigation. Just hand it over, their daughter should be worth it and it's the best hope they have IF she is still alive.

Personally I was gutted that the new investigation still seems to be fixated on the gospel according to MR and MRS and that it seems that they seem not to be challenging the abduction by a stranger theory.

by espeland 05.07.13 13:30

Petermac was logged in around 11.30 this morning, but didn't post here. And where is Tony? Perhaps, with their different experiences, they know or suspect something relevant to the case.

I have seen in various fora comments that perhaps they will be closed down. That may, in my opinion, be a good thing: assuming that SY are NOT producing a whitewash of the case, comments appearing on the Internet could easily be damaging or hindering to their work. I wouldn't want anyone - the McCanns or anyone else guilty of abduction or worse - to escape justice because of something posted on a forum. If SY ARE preparing a whitewash there are thousands ready to shout out, at least on the net. Whatever the final outcome of their investigation, we will hear about it.

The size of this thread, with so many posts trying to determine whether Redwood did or did not include a specific passage or whether the 12 British people to be interviewed includes the Tapas9 only goes to show the ridiculous extent we, the forum members, have been prepared to go: it's time we held back and let others get on with their work.

by lufc50337 05.07.13 13:36

I don't think the forums should be shut down, lots of things have already been said, as long as people are careful I don't see the problem.

I truly believe that the Internet interest in the case has helped with the search for justice for M even if its just by GA knowing he's not alone.

The research some dedicated people have done is invaluable and the evidence stored that now can't be whooshed.

by Cristobell 05.07.13 14:05

Very frustrating Sally. Yes, I remember when Steel Magnolia saying that, I also remember Good Quality Wristbands closing too.

I feel much the same as yourself. I was looking through Joana's site the other day and came across a post where Goncalo Amaral said Scotland Yard were only interested in an abduction, nothing else. Then, of course via Blacksmith, we heard GA say 'things were not going well for the mccanns'. However, I will have to check as to which of those snippets is the more recent. The only person I really trust in this quagmire of spin, is Goncalo Amaral.

by ShuBob 05.07.13 14:08

Personally, I don't see the point of announcing that there are x number of people the investigation team want to speak to. By any account, 38 is still too many. Perhaps, it's all a ploy.

In any case, the press appear to have forgotten Murat in all of this. Did any of the gathered journalists yesterday care to ask if Murat is one of the 38?

by ShuBob 05.07.13 14:13

Speaking of Murat, I just found this video clip of him being interviewed via Skype by Five news:

Hopefully, there is a longer version somewhere.

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by MaryB 05.07.13 14:45

Maybe it would help if we could have some accurate reporting for a change. 38 suspects or 38 persons of interests. Or 38 persons of interest of whom 12 are suspects. Or 38 persons of whom 12 are British. Which is it?

by lj 05.07.13 15:03

Popcorn wrote:
IAmNotMerylStreep wrote:If this is a whitewash I don't understand why the MET have reopened a case that was already shelved in another country just to cover it up again at great cost to this country that is in recession. Why not just leave it shelved in Portugal?

The hypothetical argument for a whitewash would be that if, as some believe, the McCanns are well connected and need to be protected, it has become clear after six years that no amount of expensive PR and adoring columns by uninquisitive journalists will wash away the stink of suspicion wafting around them. The only way to truly clear them is to either find a living Madeleine and/or find her abductor/killer and convict them convincingly (preferably with a full confession).
This new development from the Met, with its predictable "Maddie's alive!" press fanfare, has unfortunate echoes of Metodo 3's "we're closing in" and "back by Christmas" headlines. The difference is that Metodo 3 were being paid with money people willingly donated to the McCanns to spend on detectives while the Met are being paid with taxpayers' hard-earned cash during a massive recession. Now, if the Met doesn't either produce Maddie or convict SOMEONE at the end of this, they will look as ridiculous as Metodo 3, the McCanns will still be suspected for all the same reasons as before, and the public purse will be ££££££millions lighter. This would play very badly for David Cameron, who instigated it after pressure from his old riding partner Rebekah Brooks, I'd have thought.

by lj 05.07.13 15:09

Woofer wrote:
Newintown wrote:So if the MET are looking at sex offenders how can they justify the cadaver odour on the key fob of the hire car the McCanns had. Are they actually saying that the PJ planted all this evidence, because they seem to be totally ignoring it in my mind.

As I said in another thread, they are actually inferring that the PJ have lied and that G Amaral has lied in his book.

Again, what about the Amaral trial, if it goes ahead will the McCanns be called as witnesses, or have SY put a stop to it going ahead at all. Questions, questions still wanting answers!!

MW-T said the MET `will be looking at sex offenders`, he didn`t say `they are`. Sex offenders are MW-T`s speciality so he`s assuming (or hoping) they will look at them.

MW-T always bigs-up the British Police - and did this once more by lots of put-downs about the PJ.

Yes, you`re right about the cadaver odour - how are SY going to justify that little gem?

They won't because there is no accountability for them. Nobody is going to ask them "what about the cadaver odour?".
They're in the ideal position: anything that will contradict you theory can be ignored.

It was clear from the very onset. Remember when they started: "we are going to treat this as an abduction that happened in the UK". there you have it. The Tapas bunch were exzcluded even before the investigation/review/whitewash began.

by Pershing36 05.07.13 15:19

lj wrote:
Woofer wrote:
Newintown wrote:So if the MET are looking at sex offenders how can they justify the cadaver odour on the key fob of the hire car the McCanns had. Are they actually saying that the PJ planted all this evidence, because they seem to be totally ignoring it in my mind.

As I said in another thread, they are actually inferring that the PJ have lied and that G Amaral has lied in his book.

Again, what about the Amaral trial, if it goes ahead will the McCanns be called as witnesses, or have SY put a stop to it going ahead at all. Questions, questions still wanting answers!!

MW-T said the MET `will be looking at sex offenders`, he didn`t say `they are`. Sex offenders are MW-T`s speciality so he`s assuming (or hoping) they will look at them.

MW-T always bigs-up the British Police - and did this once more by lots of put-downs about the PJ.

Yes, you`re right about the cadaver odour - how are SY going to justify that little gem?

They won't because there is no accountability for them. Nobody is going to ask them "what about the cadaver odour?".
They're in the ideal position: anything that will contradict you theory can be ignored.

It was clear from the very onset. Remember when they started: "we are going to treat this as an abduction that happened in the UK". there you have it. The Tapas bunch were exzcluded even before the investigation/review/whitewash began.

The sad truth of it I believe.

I believe if they were under any suspicion the question on whether they were suspects or not would have been avoided or not allowed. I can't see SY lieing, they would look foolish as well.

Someone did a right job on SY to get them to ignore the dog and forensic evidence. Unfortunately I can't see this being resolved in the near future.

by bobbin 05.07.13 15:21

espeland wrote:Petermac was logged in around 11.30 this morning, but didn't post here. And where is Tony? Perhaps, with their different experiences, they know or suspect something relevant to the case.

I have seen in various fora comments that perhaps they will be closed down. That may, in my opinion, be a good thing: assuming that SY are NOT producing a whitewash of the case, comments appearing on the Internet could easily be damaging or hindering to their work. I wouldn't want anyone - the McCanns or anyone else guilty of abduction or worse - to escape justice because of something posted on a forum. If SY ARE preparing a whitewash there are thousands ready to shout out, at least on the net. Whatever the final outcome of their investigation, we will hear about it.

The size of this thread, with so many posts trying to determine whether Redwood did or did not include a specific passage or whether the 12 British people to be interviewed includes the Tapas9 only goes to show the ridiculous extent we, the forum members, have been prepared to go: it's time we held back and let others get on with their work.

I agree with moderate comment rather than any form of speculation but I do not think for one moment we should hold back and let others get on with their work.
This would assume a 'no whitewash' scenario.
I am certain that it is the persistent pressure from the blogging general public that has demonstrated that any thoughts of a 'whitewash' need to be feared.
We have just seen the exposure of PRISM, and the USA's widest ranging gathering of private data and spying on allies and foes and this has set the USA and UK perpetrators a long way back.
In the queue behind every whistle-blower is another one waiting the opportune moment.
Egypt has just shown that people can and will come out in force when they are pushed enough.
Marches throughout the USA are now taking place against 'surveillance of the private individual'.
The states of South America are now rallied against the North American 'government and its elite'
Re the unjustified war (no weapons of mass destruction found) against Iraq; just because previous war criminals have not yet faced the moment of public justice does not mean that day is not approaching.
With the phone hacking revelations, we have seen that within the MET there has been corruption at the highest level and that exposure casts doubt on the sincerity of this current investigation.
Until such time however as 100 % of the police are shown to be corrupt, I will keep enough room in my thoughts that there are still many police (wo)men who joined the force to keep public justice at the helm.
We can observe that the 'scenery' has now changed.
McCs were full of bravado and in our faces over a 6 year period until recently. It would appear that they are now taking a different stance.
Mitchel was a permanent controller of public relation reporting as the voice of the McCs. When was his last bit of spin

Re the police. We did until recent times have one of the most respected police forces in the world. Perhaps they might still pull a true rabbit out of the hat.
There is no doubt that the MET will have been watching this site.
They would have been guilty of gross negligence if they had not been monitoring here.
Furthermore, they will have seen from the analysis and fact finding here, that barring that essential piece of solid evidence, the facts speak clearly for themselves.
In as much as I agree 'care in what is said now, without rash speculation' should be the order of the day, the message still needs to be made that a 'whitewash' will not go unchallenged, and recent global events show that once people feel that an 'injustice' has been done, they will not stop until justice is done.
Madeleine has been defiled in too many ways since she 'disappeared'.
But she will be honoured.
We do need to keep discussing Maddie's disappearance, analysing any new info, re-viewing old info, and keeping the pressure on the authorities until the job is satisfactorily done.
For Madeleine who has no voice other than ours and others' roses

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by womandotcom 05.07.13 15:31

bobbin wrote:
espeland wrote:Petermac was logged in around 11.30 this morning, but didn't post here. And where is Tony? Perhaps, with their different experiences, they know or suspect something relevant to the case.

I have seen in various fora comments that perhaps they will be closed down. That may, in my opinion, be a good thing: assuming that SY are NOT producing a whitewash of the case, comments appearing on the Internet could easily be damaging or hindering to their work. I wouldn't want anyone - the McCanns or anyone else guilty of abduction or worse - to escape justice because of something posted on a forum. If SY ARE preparing a whitewash there are thousands ready to shout out, at least on the net. Whatever the final outcome of their investigation, we will hear about it.

The size of this thread, with so many posts trying to determine whether Redwood did or did not include a specific passage or whether the 12 British people to be interviewed includes the Tapas9 only goes to show the ridiculous extent we, the forum members, have been prepared to go: it's time we held back and let others get on with their work.
I agree with moderate comment rather than any form of speculation but I do not think for one moment we should hold back and let others get on with their work.
This would assume a 'no whitewash' scenario.
I am certain that it is the persistent pressure from the blogging general public that has demonstrated that any thoughts of a 'whitewash' need to be feared.
We have just seen the exposure of PRISM, and the USA's widest ranging gathering of private data and spying on allies and foes and this has set the USA and UK perpetrators a long way back.
In the queue behind every whistle-blower is another one waiting the opportune moment.
Egypt has just shown that people can and will come out in force when they are pushed enough.
Marches throughout the USA are now taking place against 'surveillance of the private individual'.
The states of South America are now rallied against the North American 'government and its elite'
Re the unjustified war (no weapons of mass destruction found) against Iraq; just because previous war criminals have not yet faced the moment of public justice does not mean that day is not approaching.
With the phone hacking revelations, we have seen that within the MET there has been corruption at the highest level and that exposure casts doubt on the sincerity of this current investigation.
Until such time however as 100 % of the police are shown to be corrupt, I will keep enough room in my thoughts that there are still many police (wo)men who joined the force to keep public justice at the helm.
We can observe that the 'scenery' has now changed.
McCs were full of bravado and in our faces over a 6 year period until recently. It would appear that they are now taking a different stance.
Mitchel was a permanent controller of public relation reporting as the voice of the McCs. When was his last bit of
Re the police. We did until recent times have one of the most respected police forces in the world. Perhaps they might still pull a true rabbit out of the hat.
There is no doubt that the MET will have been watching this site.
They would have been guilty of gross negligence if they had not been monitoring here.
Furthermore, they will have seen from the analysis and fact finding here, that barring that essential piece of solid evidence, the facts speak clearly for themselves.
In as much as I agree 'care in what is said now, without rash speculation' should be the order of the day, the message still needs to be made that a 'whitewash' will not go unchallenged, and recent global events show that once people feel that an 'injustice' has been done, they will not stop until justice is done.
Madeleine has been defiled in too many ways since she 'disappeared'.
But she will be honoured.
We do need to keep discussing Maddie's disappearance, analysing any new info, re-viewing old info, and keeping the pressure on the authorities until the job is satisfactorily done.
For Madeleine who has no voice other than ours and others' .

Well said Bobbin:clapping:

by lufc50337 05.07.13 15:41

Totally agree Bobbin

And IF it does turn out to be a whitewash all the more reason to keep going, you never know there might one day be a paper that is prepared to print the truth based on the facts

by jeanmonroe 05.07.13 15:55

sally66 wrote:Totally agree Bobbin

And IF it does turn out to be a whitewash all the more reason to keep going, you never know there might one day be a paper that is prepared to print the truth based on the facts

And you'll never know when a copper who still believes in justice and has worked on Operation Grange will maybe resign and turn whistleblower at any given time.

by jozi 05.07.13 16:12

bobbin wrote:
espeland wrote:Petermac was logged in around 11.30 this morning, but didn't post here. And where is Tony? Perhaps, with their different experiences, they know or suspect something relevant to the case.

I have seen in various fora comments that perhaps they will be closed down. That may, in my opinion, be a good thing: assuming that SY are NOT producing a whitewash of the case, comments appearing on the Internet could easily be damaging or hindering to their work. I wouldn't want anyone - the McCanns or anyone else guilty of abduction or worse - to escape justice because of something posted on a forum. If SY ARE preparing a whitewash there are thousands ready to shout out, at least on the net. Whatever the final outcome of their investigation, we will hear about it.

The size of this thread, with so many posts trying to determine whether Redwood did or did not include a specific passage or whether the 12 British people to be interviewed includes the Tapas9 only goes to show the ridiculous extent we, the forum members, have been prepared to go: it's time we held back and let others get on with their work.
I agree with moderate comment rather than any form of speculation but I do not think for one moment we should hold back and let others get on with their work.
This would assume a 'no whitewash' scenario.
I am certain that it is the persistent pressure from the blogging general public that has demonstrated that any thoughts of a 'whitewash' need to be feared.
We have just seen the exposure of PRISM, and the USA's widest ranging gathering of private data and spying on allies and foes and this has set the USA and UK perpetrators a long way back.
In the queue behind every whistle-blower is another one waiting the opportune moment.
Egypt has just shown that people can and will come out in force when they are pushed enough.
Marches throughout the USA are now taking place against 'surveillance of the private individual'.
The states of South America are now rallied against the North American 'government and its elite'
Re the unjustified war (no weapons of mass destruction found) against Iraq; just because previous war criminals have not yet faced the moment of public justice does not mean that day is not approaching.
With the phone hacking revelations, we have seen that within the MET there has been corruption at the highest level and that exposure casts doubt on the sincerity of this current investigation.
Until such time however as 100 % of the police are shown to be corrupt, I will keep enough room in my thoughts that there are still many police (wo)men who joined the force to keep public justice at the helm.
We can observe that the 'scenery' has now changed.
McCs were full of bravado and in our faces over a 6 year period until recently. It would appear that they are now taking a different stance.
Mitchel was a permanent controller of public relation reporting as the voice of the McCs. When was his last bit of
Re the police. We did until recent times have one of the most respected police forces in the world. Perhaps they might still pull a true rabbit out of the hat.
There is no doubt that the MET will have been watching this site.
They would have been guilty of gross negligence if they had not been monitoring here.
Furthermore, they will have seen from the analysis and fact finding here, that barring that essential piece of solid evidence, the facts speak clearly for themselves.
In as much as I agree 'care in what is said now, without rash speculation' should be the order of the day, the message still needs to be made that a 'whitewash' will not go unchallenged, and recent global events show that once people feel that an 'injustice' has been done, they will not stop until justice is done.
Madeleine has been defiled in too many ways since she 'disappeared'.
But she will be honoured.
We do need to keep discussing Maddie's disappearance, analysing any new info, re-viewing old info, and keeping the pressure on the authorities until the job is satisfactorily done.
For Madeleine who has no voice other than ours and others' .

Excellent post ,my thoughts entirely

by lufc50337 05.07.13 16:21

jeanmonroe wrote:
sally66 wrote:Totally agree Bobbin

And IF it does turn out to be a whitewash all the more reason to keep going, you never know there might one day be a paper that is prepared to print the truth based on the facts

And you'll never know when a copper who still believes in justice and has worked on Operation Grange will maybe resign and turn whistleblower at any given time.

Exactly IMO too many people know the truth for it to stay a secret forever.

And if there is dark forces at work there is always somebody who has nothing to lose or is prepared to take the risk to be a whistleblower

I do believe there are people who want to tell the truth now but daren't, nobody seems to dare be the first to take their finger out of the dam so to speak

by **PeterMac** 05.07.13 16:49

Still here, but waiting for the difference between the SY statement and the Mitchell driven red top front pages to be more clearly discerned.
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Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, heading Operation Grange said today:
"We, and the Portuguese authorities, remain completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine,

From which we may assume he does not know, and we may assume that he does not blindly follow what he has been told by TM, CM, C-R, or anyone else !

He could have said "We, and the Portuguese authorities, remain completely committed to finding out who kidnapped Madeleine,"
He didn't.

by Pershing36 05.07.13 17:02

sally66 wrote:Totally agree Bobbin

And IF it does turn out to be a whitewash all the more reason to keep going, you never know there might one day be a paper that is prepared to print the truth based on the facts

Exactly, it wont be the end far from it.

I just think the investigation will end with a sex offender being charged.

I am sorry I just can't twist what was said to be positive.

Although I have no doubt the guy convicted of killing April Jones was guilty, it shows they could easily get a conviction without a body.

by Guest 05.07.13 17:12

IMO they don't ignore the dogs and they know very well, that someone died in Apt. 5A and to all probability it's Madeleine.

But to be able to lay charges, they will have to proof it's her and the "how, when, why & who".
That's why they say that [non-verbatim] there's no clear and absolute proof that she's dead.

As Peter quite rightly states they don't use the "abducted" anymore, but are committed to find out what happened to her.

And, again IMO, as soon as they have eliminated all present persons of interest, they will be able to get to the core of the case.

by lj 05.07.13 18:43

Kepharel wrote:Nice to see the Portuguese playing hardball. Just goes to show you can never set the bar too low for the MET when they take up the challenge of looking a complete bunch of corrupt idiots.

by lj 05.07.13 18:56

sally66 wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
Cristobell wrote:Despite what Redwood said yesterday, I doubt very much that the mccanns and the tapas feel home and dry. They know what happened that night and the chances are a full Scotland Yard investigation will get to the bottom of it.

I think their reaction to the news yesterday tells it's own story.

I still don't know what to think but I did think the McCanns reaction was very restrained which gives a glimmer of hope

I can see the argument for whitewash and true investigation but unless somembody in the know drops us a clue I have no idea

How more clear of a clue do you want from Andy, than the parents and friends are not amongst the people of interest or the suspects. The same thing as he said months ago.

by lufc50337 05.07.13 19:04

lj wrote:
sally66 wrote:
ShuBob wrote:
Cristobell wrote:Despite what Redwood said yesterday, I doubt very much that the mccanns and the tapas feel home and dry. They know what happened that night and the chances are a full Scotland Yard investigation will get to the bottom of it.

I think their reaction to the news yesterday tells it's own story.

I still don't know what to think but I did think the McCanns reaction was very restrained which gives a glimmer of hope

I can see the argument for whitewash and true investigation but unless somembody in the know drops us a clue I have no idea

Lj
How more clear of a clue do you want from Andy, than the parents and friends are not amongst the people of interest or the suspects. The same thing as he said months ago.[/. quote]

Sally66
It could be argued that the PJ said that in August 2007 and took them in Sept 2007

They aren't going to say the McCanns and their friends are suspects whether they are or aren't

by russiandoll 05.07.13 20:13

if this statement from SY is on the forum please delete : [ bold mine ]

04 July 2013

Incident Date
03/05/2007

Incident Location
Praia da Luz , Portugal

Description
Detectives from the Metropolitan Police Service conducting the investigative review into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have now moved to an investigative stage of the inquiry.

Over the past two years the review, whilst not complete, has been in a unique position having drawn together material from the UK, Portugal and private investigators from seven different companies.

This process has been complex and issues such as translation of material have presented particular challenges. To date some 30,500 documents have entered into the process which has generated in excess of 3,800 actions. The actions that we have completed have generated new findings and new witness evidence.

Our review has sought to prioritise the material, ensuring we are doing everything possible to understand what happened to Madeleine. In the absence of any clear evidence to the contrary we maintain our belief that Madeleine may still be alive.

The MPS has conducted sixteen visits to Portugal and we have met and shared our findings with key members of both the Policia Judiciaria and Judicial Authorities. Our relationship is positive and we are grateful for the co-operation we have received thus far.

We are satisfied that our review has now progressed to a position where we have identified 38 persons of interest. These individuals are from a number of European countries and we are now at an advanced stage of dialogue with each country.

Over the coming months we will be conducting assertive enquiries, with the assistance of host countries to establish more information about the individuals concerned and any potential involvement.

Twelve of the persons of interest are UK Nationals who we believe were in Portugal at the time Madeleine went missing.

Officers, under Operation Grange, have formally requested the Crown Prosecution Service submit an International Letter of Request to the Portuguese Authorities seeking assistance in obtaining evidence relating to lines of enquiry they wish to pursue. This has been done with the full support of the UK Government.

The MPS has requested, in accordance with accepted Mutual Assistance practice, that a small number of UK officers are present in Portugal whilst the enquiries are undertaken.

The MPS will be as open as our operational priorities allow but in the context of this complex operating environment we appeal for media restraint. There is a real risk that a lack of restraint could serve to seriously undermine our ability to progress.

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, heading Operation Grange said today:

"We, and the Portuguese authorities, remain completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine, and everything we do is utterly focused on her best interests.

"We continue to believe that there is a possibility that Madeleine is alive.

"It is a positive step in our hunt for Madeleine that our understanding of the evidence has enabled us to shift from review to investigation.

"We have identified 38 persons of interest from a number of European countries. Twelve of those people are UK Nationals who we believe were in Portugal at the time Madeleine disappeared.

"Our working relationship with the Portuguese police is positive and now that we have moved to investigation we are requesting further specific assistance through normal judicial routes.

"We remain in close contact with Kate and Gerry McCann and they are updated on our current position.

"We continue to appeal for information. If you were at the resort of Praia da Luz between 28 April and 3 May 2007, either on holiday or in residence in the resort during this period, particularly in the vicinity of the Ocean Club, and you have not been spoken to by police either here or in Portugal then please call us on 0800 0961011 if you are within the UK.

note........ not " what happened to Madeleine after she was abducted."
note........no mention of abduction at all.

note hunt for Madeleine. who may be alive or as he said earlier, sadly dead. So they include trying to find her body if she is sadly deceased.
he does not use search, but hunt which implies a sense of urgency at this stage of proceedings

BBC: Madeleine McCann announcement at 14:00, 04 July 2013

by sheila.edwards 05.07.13 22:21

it does seem like taking two steps forwards then three back or long road when could have got short cut, but just think its a full investigation now,and he did seem to put maddy centre stage ( ? soothing couple)they have all info.updated, imo on re-reading, think they will sort it all out in end!

by Guest 05.07.13 22:25

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by Lance De Boils 05.07.13 22:25

Cristobell wrote: the mccanns only mentioned bringing the 'abductor' to trial, there was no reference to Madeleine being alive and brought home.

I'm just catching up with this thread - jumping in to say that what Cristobell pointed out stuck out like a sore thumb to me, when I read what the McCanns' views are (being portrayed as.)

by Guest 05.07.13 22:29

"We remain in close contact with Kate and Gerry McCann and they are updated on our current position."
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Says it all [to me ...].

by Pershing36 05.07.13 22:30

I am sorry I just cannot subscribe to the twisting of what has been said.

It was clear they are looking for an abductor, the investigation said it from the start.

It has been going on for two years, the Tapas group and McCann's are still in the same place legally they have been for the last 5 years.

It was very clear in the statement they are not suspects as far as this investigation goes. It is tough to accept with all the evidence collected and the statements translated.

I am as deflated as anyone else that the evidence of the forensics and the dogs seems to mean nothing. Although the investigation is not concluded you have to admit it is looking pretty dire.

A few weeks back we had the British cleaners and the soothing couple. I really see nothing to even remotely suggest that the McCann's or friends are going to be questioned or charged with anything.

by russiandoll 05.07.13 22:37

my intention not to twist anything or put a spin on it... the statement from SY did not mention abduction, that is a fact. Imo it was carefully constructed.
re the Express front page.........what did the Met say re media restraint? Why would they announce to the press that arrests can be expected possibly within weeks, rather than just get on and do it and announce as they happen?

If the Met have given the go ahead for the Express to run this headline, there is not a chance imo that the police believe that Madeleine is alive.

by russiandoll 05.07.13 22:39

Châtelaine wrote:"We remain in close contact with Kate and Gerry McCann and they are updated on our current position."
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Says it all [to me ...].

can you elaborate please ?

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