Re: Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat

by sallypelt 29.05.13 12:16

Wasn't it stated, early on, that the man was identified as being David Payne who was in the stair-well?

by Peneda Geres 29.05.13 12:19

plebgate wrote:Sometimes I think the papers re-hash old stories to get hits on their sites. More hits, more advertising.

No problems with that one plebgate, just install AdBlock to your browser.

by Guest 29.05.13 12:23

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The divorced dad, who said he has always felt “uncomfortable” about the Portuguese police inquiry, spoke out after the Daily Mirror tracked him down at his home in the Algarve this week

IMO the Mirror and all the other newspapers will be sat going through all their archives and re hashing old news, thinking the public won't remember what was published at the time, well the've got that wrong where a lot of people are concerned. I'm sure there will be other suspects they will find to give them a story, then send a journalist to interview them, who are they kidding?

When the real suspects are are brought to book then they will have their never to be forgotten headlines.

by aiyoyo 29.05.13 12:41

PeterMac wrote:Wierdo's like these perhaps ?

HA HA HA incredible Hulk right next to hot lip poison ivy Healy! Can't beat that for WEIRDOS! big grin

by ShuBob 29.05.13 12:43

sallypelt wrote:Wasn't it stated, early on, that the man was identified as being David Payne who was in the stair-well?

I seem to have the same recollection.

by aiyoyo 29.05.13 12:43

sallypelt wrote:Wasn't it stated, early on, that the man was identified as being David Payne who was in the stair-well?

What about witness who saw a certain doctor circling his nipple and doing another crude gesture...when are the public going to be about that?

NEVER! I know.

So why all these craps all of a sudden...
What is going to break news soon I wonder.

by **PeterMac** 29.05.13 13:17

aiyoyo wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Wierdo's like these perhaps ?
HA HA HA incredible Hulk right next to hot lip poison ivy Healy! Can't beat that for WEIRDOS!

Or Morticia Addams, perhaps.

by Guest 29.05.13 13:27

I feel that's an injustice to Morticia Addams!

I can't at the moment think of any fictional character resembling Kate in character - it would be hard to make up someone like that.

by aiyoyo 29.05.13 14:25

It would have to be a VERY dark horse.

by Ayniia 29.05.13 15:05

Cherry Blossom wrote:snipped

The divorced dad, who said he has always felt “uncomfortable” about the Portuguese police inquiry, spoke out after the Daily Mirror tracked him down at his home in the Algarve this week

IMO the Mirror and all the other newspapers will be sat going through all their archives and re hashing old news, thinking the public won't remember what was published at the time, well the've got that wrong where a lot of people are concerned. I'm sure there will be other suspects they will find to give them a story, then send a journalist to interview them, who are they kidding?

When the real suspects are are brought to book then they will have their never to be forgotten headlines.

Always felt "uncomfortable " with the Portuguese inquiry... really?! I don't believe Mario even said that. And if for some reason he knows about this "journalistic "piece no one will print his real words, not in GB at least. And going into wonderland for a moment, what if he saw a Scandinavian looking guy with glasses in a holiday resort?! "I'll never forget the glasses ". Someone should warn any Scandinavian /blonde /blue eyed /tall /short /fat /skinny male around PDL or anywhere NOT TO WEAR SUNGLASSES.

by celtclogs 29.05.13 15:20

Peneda Geres wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:

EXCLUSIVE: "WAS THERE A WEIRDO IN MADDYS FLAT?"

Makes me ashamed to be Scottish, with Irish roots.

Yes me too Peneda Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 173510

by aiyoyo 29.05.13 18:53

celtclogs wrote:
Peneda Geres wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:

EXCLUSIVE: "WAS THERE A WEIRDO IN MADDYS FLAT?"

Makes me ashamed to be Scottish, with Irish roots.

Yes me too Peneda

He looks like an older version of Senn Penn (Dead Man Waling) in that pic. Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 110921

Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 110921

by **sharonl** 29.05.13 19:28

jd wrote:

Part of Mario’s role at the Ocean Club was to collect dirty sheets from apartment blocks and drive them to the laundry room beneath the Tapas bar where the McCanns were when Maddy disappeared.

He said: “I was at my last collection point near the girl’s flat. I was always rushing. I’d park the van any-where.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs.

“He did not walk away but watched what I did. I collected the sheets and took them to the van outside. He stayed there watching me.

I hate to say it but I hope that someone has checked out this Mario guy. If there was an abduction, what a perfect way to sneak a child out. Maybe the lurker will come forward and turn the tables on him. I wonder if he has been investigated yet.

I wonder if Russ O'Brien knew about the hole in the stairs where dirty sheets were dropped, we are missing a set aren't we?

by **sharonl** 29.05.13 20:03

The official statement of Mario Fernando
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MARREIROS.htm

03-Processos Vol III Pages 555-557
06 -Processo - Page 1659
high5

03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_555

03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_556

03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_557

06_VOLUME_VIa_Page_1659

Witness Statement

Date: 2007/05/08

Mario Fernando Madeira Marreiros

Occupation: Laundry worker

Place of Work: OC

He has worked at the OC since the 5th March 2007 as a laundry worker as well as the driver of the laundry vehicles of the resort, delivering and collecting laundry (towels and sheets) from the apartments that make up the resort.

With relation to the events being investigated he states that on 4th May 2007, upon arriving at work at about 10.00 he saw that next to an apartment block there were various cars and police as well as members of the press, which he found strange.

Later, when he arrived at his place of work he was informed by colleagues that this "apparatus" was due to the disappearance of a little girl who had been staying at the resort.

He was informed that the girl was three years old, of British nationality and he observed that posters with her photograph and details were already up, with indications to follow in the case of information about her disappearance.

When questioned he said that he did not know the girl or her family, only having heard about them after the event.

When questioned about the day of the disappearance (03 May 2007) of the girl whose name he does not remember, he says he carried out his normal routine, arriving at his place of work at about 10.00, with a lunch break from 13.00 to 14.30, returning to work until 18.00. After work he returned home where he stayed with his wife until 21.30 when he went alone by car to Barao de Sao Joao, where his step son works.

After having picked up his step son he returned home where he stayed until the following day when he left for work.

He only knew about the events from the press and from his colleagues.

He knows nothing more apart from that the girl was on holiday with her family and twin siblings as he was informed later.

He does not know of anything suspicious that could be related to the events.

Reads, ratifies, signs

by lj 29.05.13 20:16

[quote="plebgate"]

PeterMac wrote:Wierdo's like these perhaps ?
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Wasn't it reported that Mrs. mother said that more people would believe her daughter if she wasn't so attractive or something like that.

Yep, she probably also thinks mother and daughter look like eachother.

by Beanie 29.05.13 20:30

The msm are really scraping the barrel rehashing all and sundry. Perhaps we are going to get the taxi driver next, who supposedly drove Madeleine and others in his cab. There could be no end to this, how many false leads have there been over the years?

I just hope something is happening behind the scenes that has got the McCanns and their friends rattled.

by Ayniia 29.05.13 20:55

In Portuguese paper "Correio da Manhã" we have the news about this but also says (loosely translated by me):
In his (Mário) first testimony to the PJ (with an actual link to the MccanPJ case files http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MARREIROS.htm ) there's no reference to the suspect with whom he crossed as he now says to the British newspaper. Some months later he gave this information to the PJ and spent hours with a detective looking to videos and pictures ,he now says to "the mirror". He couldn't identify anyone"

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/portugues-tera-visto-novo-suspeito-no-caso-maddie

Anyone spot the differences? Surely someone can translate it better than me but if anyone want just ask and I'll translate all the piece as good as I can.

by Guest 29.05.13 21:08

sharonl wrote:
jd wrote:

Part of Mario’s role at the Ocean Club was to collect dirty sheets from apartment blocks and drive them to the laundry room beneath the Tapas bar where the McCanns were when Maddy disappeared.

He said: “I was at my last collection point near the girl’s flat. I was always rushing. I’d park the van any-where.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs.

“He did not walk away but watched what I did. I collected the sheets and took them to the van outside. He stayed there watching me.

?

I hate to say it but I hope that someone has checked out this Mario guy. If there was an abduction, what a perfect way to sneak a child out. Maybe the lurker will come forward and turn the tables on him. I wonder if he has been investigated yet.

I wonder if Russ O'Brien knew about the hole in the stairs where dirty sheets were dropped, we are missing a set aren't we?

Sharoni, spot on. This is the second time in a few days that the 'Scandinavian' look of someone has come up.

Do we have any pictures of anyone of the Tapasniks (male) with that type of sunglasses on at any time during the holidays?

Could the appearance of mr Sunglass at that particular time at that particular spot have been a dry run for the disposal of the linen (/) used to cover/dispose of the little child?

And someting else strikes as odd: this guy Mario has only been at the MW for a month -he says.
But still, he avowes to know everyone at the complex?

How could that be? Complex? All those far flung rent-a-tent appartments throughout the village? Which complex is he talking about?

by **sharonl** 29.05.13 21:10

Thanks Ayniia

Here is a Google translation - maybe you could just improve on it.

Portuguese have seen new suspect in the Maddie case

A British newspaper spoke with a Portuguese who have seen a suspect wearing sunglasses by the house rented by the McCanns 24 hours before the disappearance of Maddie, in 2007.

The British newspaper 'The Mirror' spoke with Mario Marreiros Fernando Madeira, a Portuguese 47-year witness the process of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who claims to have seen a suspect ignored by the Portuguese authorities.

At the material time, Mario worked as a wardrobe in the village of Praia da Luz, Lagos, where the McCanns and their children vacationed in 2007. On the eve of the disappearance of Maddie, the Algarve claims he saw a strange man in sunglasses hiding along the stairs outside the room rented by the McCanns.

The 'Mirror', Mario says that he saw the suspect during collection of machine room. "Almost bump. Seemed embarrassed and nervous," the Portuguese said the newspaper, adding: "I had never seen. Know everyone who lived in the complex and it was not any of these people."

On the actions of the authorities and researchers, Mario says he was "uncomfortable" with the investigation of the Judicial Police (PJ). In his first statement to the PJ made public, contains no reference to the suspect who allegedly will crusader and depicting the English newspaper. However, some months later, Mario did get this information to the PJ, having spent "hours with a detective to look for images and videos," reads the 'Mirror'. However, he could not identify anyone.

But the wardrobe Algarve, working only a month before the event, believes that the stranger is somehow related to the disappearance of Maddie, has been the raptor or just an accomplice who studied the schedules and behaviors of McCann.

Six years after the child's disappearance, Mario Marreiras now asks to be heard by Scotland Yard, the British authorities, who never asked any testimony or showed interest in this man.

by Peneda Geres 29.05.13 21:15

Ayniia wrote:In Portuguese paper "Correio da Manhã" we have the news about this but also says (loosely translated by me):
In his (Mário) first testimony to the PJ (with an actual link to the MccanPJ case files http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIO_MARREIROS.htm ) there's no reference to the suspect with whom he crossed as he now says to the British newspaper. Some months later he gave this information to the PJ and spent hours with a detective looking to videos and pictures ,he now says to "the mirror". He couldn't identify anyone"

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/portugues-tera-visto-novo-suspeito-no-caso-maddie

Anyone spot the differences? Surely someone can translate it better than me but if anyone want just ask and I'll translate all the piece as good as I can.

Just slip the laundry man a few shekels and bob's your uncle. Even if this was the case, what chance does a working class person have of bringing to court a defamation claim here in the UK and expect to win.

Two chances......**&^ <(expletive) all and none.

by Ayniia 29.05.13 21:20

sharonl wrote:Thanks Ayniia

Here is a Google translation - maybe you could just improve on it.

Portuguese have seen new suspect in the Maddie case

A British newspaper spoke with a Portuguese who have seen a suspect wearing sunglasses by the house rented by the McCanns 24 hours before the disappearance of Maddie, in 2007.

The British newspaper 'The Mirror' spoke with Mario Marreiros Fernando Madeira, a Portuguese 47-year witness the process of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who claims to have seen a suspect ignored by the Portuguese authorities.

At the material time, Mario worked as a wardrobe in the village of Praia da Luz, Lagos, where the McCanns and their children vacationed in 2007. On the eve of the disappearance of Maddie, the Algarve claims he saw a strange man in sunglasses hiding along the stairs outside the room rented by the McCanns.

The 'Mirror', Mario says that he saw the suspect during collection of machine room. "Almost bump. Seemed embarrassed and nervous," the Portuguese said the newspaper, adding: "I had never seen. Know everyone who lived in the complex and it was not any of these people."

On the actions of the authorities and researchers, Mario says he was "uncomfortable" with the investigation of the Judicial Police (PJ). In his first statement to the PJ made public, contains no reference to the suspect with whom he crossed and is now depicted in the English newspaper. However, some months later, Mario did get this information to the PJ, having spent "hours with a detective to look for images and videos," reads the 'Mirror'. However, he could not identify anyone.

But the worker from Algarve, working only a month before the event, believes that the stranger is somehow related to the disappearance of Maddie, has been the raptor or just an accomplice who studied the schedules and behaviors of McCann.

Six years after the child's disappearance, Mario Marreiras now asks to be heard by Scotland Yard, the British authorities, who never asked any testimony or showed interest in this man.

Thanks sharonl, google translator was fine just made some very small corrections in bold ,
OT but "who allegedly will crusader" was too fuunny Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 110921

by **Nina** 29.05.13 21:44

Portia wrote:
sharonl wrote:
jd wrote:

Part of Mario’s role at the Ocean Club was to collect dirty sheets from apartment blocks and drive them to the laundry room beneath the Tapas bar where the McCanns were when Maddy disappeared.

He said: “I was at my last collection point near the girl’s flat. I was always rushing. I’d park the van any-where.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs.

“He did not walk away but watched what I did. I collected the sheets and took them to the van outside. He stayed there watching me.

?

I hate to say it but I hope that someone has checked out this Mario guy. If there was an abduction, what a perfect way to sneak a child out. Maybe the lurker will come forward and turn the tables on him. I wonder if he has been investigated yet.

I wonder if Russ O'Brien knew about the hole in the stairs where dirty sheets were dropped, we are missing a set aren't we?

Sharoni, spot on. This is the second time in a few days that the 'Scandinavian' look of someone has come up.

Do we have any pictures of anyone of the Tapasniks (male) with that type of sunglasses on at any time during the holidays?

Could the appearance of mr Sunglass at that particular time at that particular spot have been a dry run for the disposal of the linen (/) used to cover/dispose of the little child?

And someting else strikes as odd: this guy Mario has only been at the MW for a month -he says.
But still, he avowes to know everyone at the complex?

How could that be? Complex? All those far flung rent-a-tent appartments throughout the village? Which complex is he talking about?

Some of the greyscale photographs show DP with two children on his lap and he is wearing sun glasses. Cannot locate where I saw it, will have a root about for the link.

by Peneda Geres 29.05.13 21:49

Nina wrote:
Portia wrote:
sharonl wrote:
jd wrote:

Part of Mario’s role at the Ocean Club was to collect dirty sheets from apartment blocks and drive them to the laundry room beneath the Tapas bar where the McCanns were when Maddy disappeared.

He said: “I was at my last collection point near the girl’s flat. I was always rushing. I’d park the van any-where.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs.

“He did not walk away but watched what I did. I collected the sheets and took them to the van outside. He stayed there watching me.

?

I hate to say it but I hope that someone has checked out this Mario guy. If there was an abduction, what a perfect way to sneak a child out. Maybe the lurker will come forward and turn the tables on him. I wonder if he has been investigated yet.

I wonder if Russ O'Brien knew about the hole in the stairs where dirty sheets were dropped, we are missing a set aren't we?

Sharoni, spot on. This is the second time in a few days that the 'Scandinavian' look of someone has come up.

Do we have any pictures of anyone of the Tapasniks (male) with that type of sunglasses on at any time during the holidays?

Could the appearance of mr Sunglass at that particular time at that particular spot have been a dry run for the disposal of the linen (/) used to cover/dispose of the little child?

And someting else strikes as odd: this guy Mario has only been at the MW for a month -he says.
But still, he avowes to know everyone at the complex?

How could that be? Complex? All those far flung rent-a-tent appartments throughout the village? Which complex is he talking about?

Some of the greyscale photographs show DP with two children on his lap and he is wearing sun glasses. Cannot locate where I saw it, will have a root about for the link.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm

Only too glad to help.

by **Hobs** 29.05.13 21:52

At the material time, Mario worked as a wardrobe in the village of Praia
da Luz, Lagos, where the McCanns and their children vacationed in 2007.

I gotta love when translations aren't exact or too exact, this gave me a whole new visual. Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 181154

Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 181154

by Ayniia 29.05.13 22:00

Hobs wrote:At the material time, Mario worked as a wardrobe in the village of Praia
da Luz, Lagos, where the McCanns and their children vacationed in 2007.

I gotta love when translations aren't exact or too exact, this gave me a whole new visual.

That one escaped me hobs, spot on, haha

by **Nina** 29.05.13 22:12

Peneda Geres wrote:
Nina wrote:
Portia wrote:
sharonl wrote:
jd wrote:

Part of Mario’s role at the Ocean Club was to collect dirty sheets from apartment blocks and drive them to the laundry room beneath the Tapas bar where the McCanns were when Maddy disappeared.

He said: “I was at my last collection point near the girl’s flat. I was always rushing. I’d park the van any-where.

"It was 7.30pm to 8pm. When cleaners cleared sheets they dropped them down the hole in the stairs to be collected by me at the bottom.

“There was no reason for him to be there and no reason to wear the glasses as it was dark under the stairs.

“He did not walk away but watched what I did. I collected the sheets and took them to the van outside. He stayed there watching me.

?

I hate to say it but I hope that someone has checked out this Mario guy. If there was an abduction, what a perfect way to sneak a child out. Maybe the lurker will come forward and turn the tables on him. I wonder if he has been investigated yet.

I wonder if Russ O'Brien knew about the hole in the stairs where dirty sheets were dropped, we are missing a set aren't we?

Sharoni, spot on. This is the second time in a few days that the 'Scandinavian' look of someone has come up.

Do we have any pictures of anyone of the Tapasniks (male) with that type of sunglasses on at any time during the holidays?

Could the appearance of mr Sunglass at that particular time at that particular spot have been a dry run for the disposal of the linen (/) used to cover/dispose of the little child?

And someting else strikes as odd: this guy Mario has only been at the MW for a month -he says.
But still, he avowes to know everyone at the complex?

How could that be? Complex? All those far flung rent-a-tent appartments throughout the village? Which complex is he talking about?

Some of the greyscale photographs show DP with two children on his lap and he is wearing sun glasses. Cannot locate where I saw it, will have a root about for the link.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm

Only too glad to help.

Thank you Peneda Geres, I had just found them laughat

Trouble is they are not clear at all. I would imagine they would all have had their sun glasses with them just in case it was hot and sunny.

by Peneda Geres 29.05.13 22:14

Ayniia wrote:
Hobs wrote:At the material time, Mario worked as a wardrobe in the village of Praia
da Luz, Lagos, where the McCanns and their children vacationed in 2007.

I gotta love when translations aren't exact or too exact, this gave me a whole new visual.

That one escaped me hobs, spot on, haha

How ironic, dare I translate Springer spaniel? Will it translate to blue holdall?

by aiyoyo 29.05.13 23:03

Despite Campbell valueless message I cant help thinking something is afoot, 'cause they haven't spun like windmill for a while.
Why NOW?

by Guest 29.05.13 23:08

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm

What a pity that the very last photo on this link can't be seen clearly as it purports to show all the McCanns, except possibly Amelie. The person identified as Russell looks as if he has a bag on his head!

This appears to be the only family photo in PDL and it would be interesting to see if it's as dodgy as all the others.

by jeanmonroe 30.05.13 16:45

Mirror front page tomorrow 29/5/13 - I saw weirdo lurking near Maddy's flat - Page 2 Glasse11

and had two-tone sunglasses on, they got lighter at the bottom and were big. I will never forget those glasses.
Blonde (Scandanavian) Glasses BIG. Seen in the vicinity. (on holiday) Putting dirty laundry down the hole in the stairs to be collected.