Re: Madeleine Suspects 'Not Fully Investigated'

by Liz Eagles 04.06.13 11:53

Clarence Mitchell doesn't have a wiki page. Does anyone have a screenshot of a wiki page for him?

Weren't Burson Marsteller in a bit of a wrangle for 'tweeking' wiki pages?

by Guest 04.06.13 12:09

Perhaps it's Clarence who personally checks all the online comments pages for every newspaper and whooshes all those that don't support the sainted pair.

That must certainly take up a lot of his time!

by marconi 04.06.13 12:28

we don't know when Mitchell was interviewed by the police, before of after the review started.

I believe that a new interview to every person involved with the McCanns will be very much different from the ones before because the PJ and the Yard know a lot more than they knew in 2007, 2008.

by marconi 06.06.13 21:01

Around May the 20th,, Martin Brunt wrote about a dozen of people who were not yet fully

investigated.

We can calculate two days for each of them, questioning and writing their replies, correcting and organizing everything in the files.

We would expect about 24 days in that last part of the review. And after that, the analyses, the conclusion and its report, bringing it to Cameron and Theresa May, asking them to request Portugal to reopen the case.

And the PJ will have to read and to analyse the report of those 12, after it has been translated.

This will still take some time, even if Tapas 7 have told the truth, which they probably already did.

And then we will get the public prosecuter who will agree with the reopening of the probe.

The reconstruction, the new evidence, the forensic opportunities (God bless!) and I book a ticket to Algarve!

by Cristobell 06.06.13 21:37

marconi wrote:Around May the 20th,, Martin Brunt wrote about a dozen of people who were not yet fully

investigated.

We can calculate two days for each of them, questioning and writing their replies, correcting and organizing everything in the files.

We would expect about 24 days in that last part of the review. And after that, the analyses, the conclusion and its report, bringing it to Cameron and Theresa May, asking them to request Portugal to reopen the case.

And the PJ will have to read and to analyse the report of those 12, after it has been translated.

This will still take some time, even if Tapas 7 have told the truth, which they probably already did.

And then we will get the public prosecuter who will agree with the reopening of the probe.

The reconstruction, the new evidence, the forensic opportunities (God bless!) and I book a ticket to Algarve!

Are SY detectives allowed to interview witnesses in Portugal? I also wonder if interviewing is part of the remit of a review? I tend to think that we are now waiting for the Portuguese to finish their review, and make a decision on the re-opening? The fact that they were working with SY makes me think that their decision must be due soon. From their perspective, they too must have invested a lot of public money into this case, so I can't see them shelving it again. Added to which their tourist industry takes a hammering every year when the anniversary comes around. They need to solve it, if only for economic reasons.

by Guest 06.06.13 22:18

IIRC it's an "investigative" review. That IMO gives plenty of slack on both sides.

by Guest 07.06.13 8:05

aquila wrote:Clarence Mitchell doesn't have a wiki page. Does anyone have a screenshot of a wiki page for him?

Weren't Burson Marsteller in a bit of a wrangle for 'tweeking' wiki pages?

User:GrahamHardy/Clarence Mitchell

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Clarence Mitchell is a former BBC news reporter, and now official spokesman for the family of Madeleine McCann.

Mitchell began his career as a journalist as a local reporter for the Barnet & Potters Bar Times in South Hertfordshire before leaving to join a BBC training scheme.^{[citation needed]} He later joined the BBC as a regional reporter in Leeds. In the early 1990s he moved to BBC Breakfast News and then as a reporter on the main national BBC TV and radio bulletins. ^[1], reporting on the death of Michael Hutchence in 1997 and as royal correspondent in 1999 on the death of Dodi Fayed and Princess Diana.^[2] Between 2003 and 2005 he covered stories in the Middle East including the Iraq conflict.^[3]

After 20 years as a journalist^[4], in April 2006 he joined the government's Central Office of Information as director of the Media Monitoring Unit and in May 2007 was sent to Portugal on behalf of the UK Foreign Office to provide temporary consular assistance to the McCanns with handling the media following the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine McCann who disappeared on 3 May 2007 while on holiday with her family in the resort of Praia da Luz in the Algarve, Portugal. On 17 September, he resigned as director of the Central Office of Information's media monitoring unit to become the McCanns' media spokesman.^[5]^[6]

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^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7010286.stm
^ http://media.guardian.co.uk/marketingandpr/story/0,,2171914,00.html
^ Sweeney, Mark (2007-09-18). "A veteran of major stories". Guardian Unlimited. Retrieved 2007-09-28.
^ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/20/nmaddy920.xml
^ David Brown and Steve Bird (2007-09-17). "Portuguese judge balks at ordering Madeleine McCann's parents to return". The Times. Retrieved 2007-09-20.
^ Caroline Gammell (2007-09-19). "Madeleine McCann: Parents are 'victims of heinous crime'". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2007-09-20.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:GrahamHardy/Clarence_Mitchell&oldid=180146904"

This page was last modified on 25 December 2007 at 20:33.

This might be useful, not found a more recent one yet, that's if there is one

by Liz Eagles 07.06.13 8:19

Thanks Cherry Blossom,

I saw that but didn't understand

User:GrahamHardy/Clarence Mitchell

as the only google reference to wiki. Normally there's just a wiki entry.

by Guest 07.06.13 8:30

aquila wrote:Thanks Cherry Blossom,

I saw that but didn't understand

User:GrahamHardy/Clarence Mitchell

as the only google reference to wiki. Normally there's just a wiki entry.

No I didn't understand either, don't know who Graham Hardy is?

This is another site with info on him

http://www.zimbio.com/Clarence+Mitchell

by marconi 07.06.13 9:20

Cristobell, somewhere I read that the Met police talked to people in Portugal. If they did, it was not officially because the probe is not yet reopened.

I think that if the PJ allowed the Yard to approach eventual witnesses, Justice thought it was ok.

Like you said, this case have to be solved and the Portuguese police have interest in solving it.

I even think that those 12 suspects have been already reinterviewd or at least the half of them.

When a police tell what they are planning to do, in most cases they are much further than they tell.

How can the McCanns live under such a pressure, much worse than in September 2007, when they still could count on Brown and on News of the World.

By now I believe that they know what happened to Madeleine. Somebody of the Tapas or some friend must have told it.

Secrets that are shared with many people simply don't exist.

by Guest 07.06.13 11:00

Friday, 4 July 2008

Gonçalo Amaral: "The day I was taken off the case, I was preparing the process to bring to Portugal a key witness”

Madeleine Suspects 'Not Fully Investigated' - Page 4 Goncalo_Amaral

The former Criminal Coordinator of PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, now retired, told the weekly "Expresso" that the decision to take him out of the case was "unfair and dangerous". Gonçalo Amaral said that "he and other persons" believe Madeleine is dead and he was preparing to bring to Portugal a "key witness", on the day the head of PJ decided to replace him with Paulo Rebelo, in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance. "That key witness never came to Portugal and (PJ) never took her statement", Amaral told the "Expresso".

He also revealed that "colleagues involved in the investigation asked the head of PJ for an internal inquiry, to find out if their work wasn't properly done." Questioned if he had committed any mistake, Mr. Gonçalo Amaral answered: "I made one mistake. The first hour mistake. There are things I cant't yet talk about. We are aware that some things could have been done in a different way. Nobody should be shocked if we had started the investigation evaluating if the parents were or were not related with the case." Asked if he had anything to tell to Gerry and Kate McCann, Gonçalo Amaral said: “I have nothing to tell them. My main concern is about the child, not the parents.”

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/gonalo-amaral-day-i-was-taken-off-case.html

Who is the key witness?

Was this witness someone who had been there at the time, then left to go home?

by aiyoyo 07.06.13 11:35

Smith?

by Guest 07.06.13 12:08

aiyoyo wrote:Smith?

Ah yes, so we need to know out of all who were there at the time, who wasn't interviewed? must be somebody close to the McCann's or a sightseer

by bobbin 07.06.13 12:32

Cherry Blossom wrote:Friday, 4 July 2008

Gonçalo Amaral: "The day I was taken off the case, I was preparing the process to bring to Portugal a key witness”

The former Criminal Coordinator of PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, now retired, told the weekly "Expresso" that the decision to take him out of the case was "unfair and dangerous". Gonçalo Amaral said that "he and other persons" believe Madeleine is dead and he was preparing to bring to Portugal a "key witness", on the day the head of PJ decided to replace him with Paulo Rebelo, in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance. "That key witness never came to Portugal and (PJ) never took her statement", Amaral told the "Expresso".

He also revealed that "colleagues involved in the investigation asked the head of PJ for an internal inquiry, to find out if their work wasn't properly done." Questioned if he had committed any mistake, Mr. Gonçalo Amaral answered: "I made one mistake. The first hour mistake. There are things I cant't yet talk about. We are aware that some things could have been done in a different way. Nobody should be shocked if we had started the investigation evaluating if the parents were or were not related with the case." Asked if he had anything to tell to Gerry and Kate McCann, Gonçalo Amaral said: “I have nothing to tell them. My main concern is about the child, not the parents.”

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/gonalo-amaral-day-i-was-taken-off-case.html

Who is the key witness?

Was this witness someone who had been there at the time, then left to go home?

And never took HER statement. Is this relevant or does the Portuguese translate as "HER" because the Portuguese for 'statement' is feminine, or does it mean the statement was from a woman.

by Guest 07.06.13 12:55

Good question. That's one of the tricky things with Latin languages. Same thing here in France.
Il monte dans sa voiture [he gets into HER care, if literally translated.

by Guest 07.06.13 13:03

A reminder of an earlier topic about the strangeness of punctuation and grammatical rules.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5968-eats-shoots-and-leaves-the-importance-of-punctuation?highlight=eats+shoots

by Guest 08.06.13 8:40

bobbin wrote:
Cherry Blossom wrote:Friday, 4 July 2008

Gonçalo Amaral: "The day I was taken off the case, I was preparing the process to bring to Portugal a key witness”

The former Criminal Coordinator of PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, now retired, told the weekly "Expresso" that the decision to take him out of the case was "unfair and dangerous". Gonçalo Amaral said that "he and other persons" believe Madeleine is dead and he was preparing to bring to Portugal a "key witness", on the day the head of PJ decided to replace him with Paulo Rebelo, in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance. "That key witness never came to Portugal and (PJ) never took her statement", Amaral told the "Expresso".

He also revealed that "colleagues involved in the investigation asked the head of PJ for an internal inquiry, to find out if their work wasn't properly done." Questioned if he had committed any mistake, Mr. Gonçalo Amaral answered: "I made one mistake. The first hour mistake. There are things I cant't yet talk about. We are aware that some things could have been done in a different way. Nobody should be shocked if we had started the investigation evaluating if the parents were or were not related with the case." Asked if he had anything to tell to Gerry and Kate McCann, Gonçalo Amaral said: “I have nothing to tell them. My main concern is about the child, not the parents.”

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/gonalo-amaral-day-i-was-taken-off-case.html

Who is the key witness?

Was this witness someone who had been there at the time, then left to go home?
And never took HER statement. Is this relevant or does the Portuguese translate as "HER" because the Portuguese for 'statement' is feminine, or does it mean the statement was from a woman.

Was Bridget O'Donnell ever interviewed by the PJ?

by Guest 08.06.13 8:44

[quote="bobbin"]

Cherry Blossom wrote:Friday, 4 July 2008

Gonçalo Amaral: "The day I was taken off the case, I was preparing the process to bring to Portugal a key witness”

The former Criminal Coordinator of PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, now retired, told the weekly "Expresso" that the decision to take him out of the case was "unfair and dangerous". Gonçalo Amaral said that "he and other persons" believe Madeleine is dead and he was preparing to bring to Portugal a "key witness", on the day the head of PJ decided to replace him with Paulo Rebelo, in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance. "That key witness never came to Portugal and (PJ) never took her statement", Amaral told the "Expresso".

He also revealed that "colleagues involved in the investigation asked the head of PJ for an internal inquiry, to find out if their work wasn't properly done." Questioned if he had committed any mistake, Mr. Gonçalo Amaral answered: "I made one mistake. The first hour mistake. There are things I cant't yet talk about. We are aware that some things could have been done in a different way. Nobody should be shocked if we had started the investigation evaluating if the parents were or were not related with the case." Asked if he had anything to tell to Gerry and Kate McCann, Gonçalo Amaral said: “I have nothing to tell them. My main concern is about the child, not the parents.”

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/gonalo-amaral-day-i-was-taken-off-case.html

Who is the key witness?

Was this witness someone who had been there at the time, then left to go home?

And never took HER statement. Is this relevant or does the Portuguese translate as "HER" because the Portuguese for 'statement' is feminine, or does it mean the statement was from a woman.[/quote

Was Bridget O'Donnell ever interviewed by the PJ?