Re: KATE MCCANN'S PORTUGAL RETURN (Merged thread Daily Star and Mirror articles)

[Nina]

I bet her ticket was not booked even weeks ago, let alone months in preparation for her May visit. Something has caused this visit, the visit is the reaction. As has been said why does she feel close to her here, it wasn't a family holiday with lots of togetherness times. it was a week of dumping the children in the two creches whilst they, the parents, did their own things.
Something is afoot imo.

I feel this was a spur of the moment trip and i bet its something to do with Robert murat,i know in the book she wanted to kill him,hope he keeps out of her way.

I agree Tiny, very spur of the moment, in fact within the last 48 hours. But of course we will never know. we will be fed spin saying it was planned weeks/months ago. never been mentioned though until today. And the news has been Murat and their grief/guilt wracked faces.

[Lostfridge]

"It is a private trip alone, away from the spotlight, and a time for quiet reflection. She still has a lot of friends there."

away from the spotlight!! best tell the whole news reading world then hey!!. You couldn't make this up! or could you!

[Philthecynic]

In a case like this and after 6 years the question above becomes relevant. Most stories die after a few weeks. Something may happen to revive it but in general people get bored with it.
The only reason that we still have stories in the press is that the McCanns make sure we do.

Hence a visit which will once again ensure the brand image continues.

[Ayniia]

I dont believe in Kate making trips here without publicity,everyone knows who she is,Imo impossible to get unnoticed.

[ShuBob]

The miraculous case of the three women released following their abductions years ago will come as manna from heaven for the McCanns in time for Maddie's 10th birthday press spin.

[tiny]

The miraculous case of the three women released following their abductions years ago will come as manna from heaven for the McCanns in time for Maddie's 10th birthday press spin.

Lets not forget the DOGS,theres no way the mccanns can get away from scent left on kates clothes, ect

[aiyoyo]

In such a high profile murder abduction case situation, one would assume a suspect arguida grieving mother to be followed by one or more photograpghers, journalists, plain clothes policemen if only to see where exactly the lady would go in order to feel closest to the victim.

That aside, once incarcerated one's travelling days are over.

Do you think it will come to that? Incarceration I mean.

[plebgate]

So why during the cosy chat with Lorraine Kelly, did KM not tell her she was flying out to PDL? Was it a spur of the moment decision..... Amazing how this story appears the day after the Express headline, just another one of those coincidences I expect.

[plebgate]

Likely there to meet her lawyer, Isabel Duarte. Amaral's trial must be coming up.

Good point.

[Nina]

Likely there to meet her lawyer, Isabel Duarte. Amaral's trial must be coming up.

Good point.

Yes but they have known about this and she has gone alone. She is going for a reason and imo it isn't to be closer to Madeleine. She is closer to Madeleine at home in Rothley, sat in her bedroom with all her clothes and toys and bed. Certainly not in PdL where Madeleine spent most of her 24 hour day in creche or alone in bed, if we are to believe the creche records and the child checking timelines. So nothing of a special family holiday for her to feel close to.

[Oh come on]

Perhhaps she's visiting a grave.

[Philthecynic]

Perhhaps she's visiting a grave.

Would explain why she feels closer to Maddy in Portugal.

[Guest]

Personally I doubt that she is even there; no photos to prove it, just an old one regurgitated. I also don't believe that the family went back to Donegal a year or so ago; that's assuming they were even there in 2007!

All just glorified in my view.

[ShuBob]

Like in the Ohio case and other similar cases, I think Maddie is still in Portugal. Sadly, I don't think she's alive.

[tigger]

Gerry McCann not accompanying her by the looks of it. It's all about Kate.

Probably gerry cant get time off work and she's left to go alone. I bet her presence is required at the lawyer's office.

Possibly one of them is required to be there in order to sign the odd document? You can be sure she's not on her own, trusty UK lawyers will be at her side imo.

The lonely trip of Kate to the-country-where-she-lost-her-beautiful-child is for the headlines only.

Tigger, be careful ! Kate did not loose her daughter, she was taken from her by a bad man. You could get yourself in trouble making statements like that.

I do not understand how she feels closer to her in PDL. She was there just a matter of days, and there are few, if any, special family memories of the trip ever mentioned or written about. How could that surpass memories from home. There would be a certain attachment to PDL but surely it is not the most important place on earth from a memory point of view.

Off topic but I have long wondered where is the good looking lawyer gone, the one who was present at their arguido questioning ? Much more pleasing to the eye than their current representatives, but surely has a mind field of knowledge. I hope he has not been whooshed.

You mean d'Aubreu (probl not the right spelling) - one of my favourite photographs is where she's just been made arguido and he's looking at her with some amusement in his face.
He's certainly better looking than the poison dwarf in Lisbon.

[Guest]

In such a high profile murder abduction case situation, one would assume a suspect arguida grieving mother to be followed by one or more photograpghers, journalists, plain clothes policemen if only to see where exactly the lady would go in order to feel closest to the victim.

That aside, once incarcerated one's travelling days are over.

Do you think it will come to that? Incarceration I mean.

Why not?

It can happen to most of us.

It almost happened to Tony Bennett.

So why not to doctor Kate Healy Mc Cann?

[Guest]

BtB, is this Freud creature still out there on the rock, serving strawberry wodka's to petulant waifs?

If we might call our heroine a waif, that is.

[Smokeandmirrors]

BtB, is this Freud creature still out there on the rock, serving strawberry wodka's to petulant waifs?

If we might call our heroine a waif, that is.

He died in 2009.

[Monty Heck]

So KM still has a lot of friends in PDL, including Portuguese. Certainly not the Hubbards who are now departed. Can't beat a private visit for quiet reflection announced in as many newspapers as will print it. Paying a visit there next month so extremely relieved she and any associated hacks will be long gone by them.

[Guest]

So KM still has a lot of friends in PDL, including Portuguese. Certainly not the Hubbards who are now departed. Can't beat a private visit for quiet reflection announced in as many newspapers as will print it. Paying a visit there next month so extremely relieved she and any associated hacks will be long gone by them.

Rev Hubbard has flown over for the anniversay Monty, he will be there - see here.........

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t6873-anniversary-coming-up-rev-hubbard-now-roped-in

[sammyc]

So Kate can freely and easily go to PdL alone, (not for the first time), to feel closer to Madeleine at the poignant anniversaries of disappearance and birthday, yet can't persuade, beg , plead with her husband and Tapas pals to go to do a reconstruction to actually assist the PJ with the search for her daughter. Baffling.

[Lance De Boils]

Hmmm....
...something's up.

Real emotion from the duo (of a kind not seen before - the closest being "arguido day"), Murat's front page, then an apparently sudden trip to the Algarve?

It would seem (to me at least) that the McCanns have received some bad news and Kate has had to dash off to... [whatever it is she's really doing.]

I feel something's afoot.

[stillsloppingout]

I guess it will

1, have something to do with the Amaral case . [ seeing lawyers etc ]
2 . A play for the media [ Kate's turn this time ]
3 . but equally IMO An opportunity for Kate to visit Portugal ,as after all the TV , hype etc ,she has more than likely based on the evidence, a dead daughter that is resting in that country . People generally visit graves of dead relatives on Birthdays , this appears to be no different .
I doubt though she will slip off somewhere for a few hours un attended though but the church is an interesting one .

[Ayniia]

Perhhaps she's visiting a grave.

I was hoping someone would say this, didn't wanted to be me saying but was the first thing that came to my mind

[aiyoyo]

In such a high profile murder abduction case situation, one would assume a suspect arguida grieving mother to be followed by one or more photograpghers, journalists, plain clothes policemen if only to see where exactly the lady would go in order to feel closest to the victim.

That aside, once incarcerated one's travelling days are over.

Do you think it will come to that? Incarceration I mean.

Why not?

It can happen to most of us.

It almost happened to Tony Bennett.

So why not to doctor Kate Healy Mc Cann?

Sure, it can happen even to fragrant kate and saint gerry but what are the chances of that?
I hope their disgrace will be total (as Stuart Hall's lawyer said of Hall) when their time comes, but at this rate the Review is going, one has to have eternal optimism to believe they'll face incarceration.

Just look how brazen fragrant kate is: on one hand she said her visit to Portugal is private to feel 'close to Maddie' while on the other hand she's telling the whole world about it. It's like: I tell you a secret but don't go telling anyone.
If only they use this same tactic and tell the papers what happened to Madeleine and where they hid her body......

And this 'concept' of going back to crime scene to feel close to her daughter is f..**** ridiculous.
You would have thought spending time in Maddie's unchanged bedroom at Rothley as kate told us she did is the place she would feel close or closer to Madeleine as surely there is a few years of happy memory to draw from that scene than at a general area of the crime scene. If she'd said she's going there to search then that would make sense, but to go there and feel close to her....is one of those wtf moments.

Ben Needham 's mum used to return to crime scene to try and search for him, asking around, and pestering Police to reopen the case.
I dont recall her saying she went there to feel close to Ben.

A person's recollection or memory of a lost one is an intangible thing, an abstract visualisation of the loved one, and no physical venue can make you feel emotional closeness or increase your emotional closeness.

That woman is mad as barking frog. I said before and will say it again - she needs to be tied down to a bed with someone watching over her when given her medication.

Hello, Kevin! your client is running amok without taking her medicines......you should be watching her more closely just in case....

[russiandoll]

from Portugal's Morning Post :

Six years after the disappearance of their daughter Kate McCann is in Praia da Luz
Mother of Madeleine McCann has visited the apartment where the girl disappeared.

[PeterMac]

Fascinating.


Just as an irrelevant aside, and a propos of nothing much, some criminals return to the scene of the crime.
And a propos of nothing much else, people return to the site of a death to pay homage, and "keep vigil".


No idea why this thought occurred to me just now.

[Guest]

from Portugal's Morning Post :

Six years after the disappearance of their daughter Kate McCann is in Praia da Luz
Mother of Madeleine McCann has visited the apartment where the girl disappeared.

Good morning!

Do you happen to have the full article? Any pictures?

It's early in the day, but..

Did she enter the apartment?

And if so: was that perhaps to get her version of the truth right, next time around?

Or to intimidate Murat & Mother, at shouting distance from the apartment?

Crass, very very crass and insensitive towards them, don't you agree?

[Guest]

Are there any photos which can be corroborated as being taken in Portugal in the last day or two? I'm still very doubtful that Kate is even there.

[russiandoll]

I recall Kate's words of some time ago about her tie to Portugal.....the last place where she held Madeleine. An ambiguous statement and the interpretation I have given to those words is based on the dream sequence in her book, which was I believe a description of a real event, full of anguish and loss. I do not believe the above words are a reference, to be taken at face value, to giving her child a cuddle.

One of these days Kate just might decide it is time to confide in someone about what really happened.
For that though she would imo need to be living apart from her husband.


re- the article, I will post it in full after attempting to improve on google translate!