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Post by Verdi on 04.02.20 0:34

Madeleine McCann parents taking legal action against Portugal over disappearance

EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann vanished from her family’s apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz while her parents dined in a nearby tapas bar in 2007

By Jerry Lawton

21:02, 3 FEB 2020

Portugal may soon have to pay Madeleine McCann’s parents compensation over her disappearance.

Kate and Gerry McCann are taking legal action against a ruling by the country’s supreme court.

The McCanns’ legal action stems from a feud with former detective Goncalo Amaral, 60, who led the initial police hunt for Madeleine and in a best-selling book later accused the couple of covering up her death.

The couple, both 51, later successfully sued Mr Amaral for libel arguing his claim Madeleine was dead was hampering their global search for her.

But the decision to award them damages and costs totalling £436,000 was overturned on appeal on the basis the former detective was entitled to express his opinions under freedom of speech.

That decision was ratified by Portugal’s Supreme Court – the highest authority in the land.

Now the McCanns are hoping to appeal against that judgement in the European Court Of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France.

A judge is to assess their case within the coming months.

A spokesman for the European Court of Human Rights said: “Before the end of the year there will be a preliminary examination by the court regarding the admissibility of the application.’’

If the McCanns win the Portuguese nation may be ordered to pay them a cash settlement.

A source close to the UK police probe into Madeleine’s disappearance said that could fuel 'resentment’.

“The disappearance of Madeleine has already cost Portugal,’’ they said.

"Tourism was badly affected afterwards.

“Now the possibility of having to pay money to a couple who – in many locals’ eyes – left their child to fate while they went out could cause resentment.’’


Then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from her family’s apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz while her parents dined with pals in a nearby tapas bar in 2007.

The couple were unavailable for comment yesterday.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-taking-legal-21424013

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A spokesman from the European Court of Human Rights .. A source close to the UK police probe .. The McCanns not available for comment?

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Post by sharonl on 04.02.20 7:57

thinking Within 4 days of Brexit.  Say no more

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Post by sallypelt on 04.02.20 10:11

Hi all. Good to see you are all still here. This is the first time for me to log in, for months. With Brexit and other issues, I haven't been here. It's been so long, I couldn't remember my log in id or my password.
I came across the article below, earlier. I don't know if this has been posted anywhere on the forum. Verdi, don't be too hard on me if this is posted in the wrong place. If it is, please move or remove it. 
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Madeleine McCann's parents have launched a legal challenge against the Portuguese government - and could be paid considerable compensation if they win.

Kate and Gerry McCann are taking legal action against a ruling by the country’s supreme court, reports the Daily Star.

The McCanns’ initial action was against former detective Goncalo Amaral, 60, who led the initial police hunt for Madeleine.

He sold a best-selling book which accused the couple of covering up her death, angering the McCanns and their supporters.

The couple, both 51, successfully sued Mr Amaral for injury to reputation arguing his claim Madeleine was dead was hampering their global search for her.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-taking-legal-21424524

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hello again sallypelt, good to see you back. I hope you've escaped the clutches of Brexit unscathed.

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Post by Verdi on 04.02.20 11:58

A precursor for another tug at the public purse strings in the not too distant future?

There appears to be a pool of errant journalists who take turns in regurgitating past fictitious news reports, already debunked time and time again by the more astute observer.

A gaggle of geese honking their way around the Duck or Grouse public bar.

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Post by sandancer on 04.02.20 12:27

Does anyone really take any notice of the recycled bilge put out by MSM ? 

I doubt it , people are thoroughly sick of the McCanns and their " poor me " attitude , let's sue everyone and make more money for the ( non existent ) " search " ! 

Even they " weren't available for comment " . Allegedly 

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Post by sallypelt on 04.02.20 12:33

@sandancer wrote:Does anyone really take any notice of the recycled bilge put out by MSM ? 

I doubt it , people are thoroughly sick of the McCanns and their " poor me " attitude , let's sue everyone and make more money for the ( non existent ) " search " ! 

Even they " weren't available for comment " . Allegedly 

Why have a dog and bark yourself . Whoops , don't mention dogs .   lol4
I have had a few McCann free months. I haven't heard a thing about them in all that time, and I have to say, it's been very liberating.
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Post by Verdi on 04.02.20 15:11

What's up with Jerry Lawton - is he stuck in a time warp?. Only a few hours ago his scribbings appeared in the Daily Star..

Madeleine McCann parents taking legal action against Portuguese government


Kate and Gerry McCann have gone to the European Court Of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France, in a bid to overturn a decision against former detective Goncalo Amaral

By Jerry Lawton

09:34, 4 FEB 2020 Updated09:51, 4 FEB 2020

Madeleine McCann's parents have launched a legal challenge against the Portuguese government - and could be paid considerable compensation if they win.

Kate and Gerry McCann are taking legal action against a ruling by the country’s supreme court, reports the Daily Star.

The McCanns’ initial action was against former detective Goncalo Amaral, 60, who led the initial police hunt for Madeleine.

He sold a best-selling book which accused the couple of covering up her death, angering the McCanns and their supporters.

The couple, both 51, successfully sued Mr Amaral for injury to reputation arguing his claim Madeleine was dead was hampering their global search for her.

But the decision to award them damages and costs totalling £436,000 was overturned on appeal and then ratified by Portugal’s Supreme Court.

Now the McCanns are hoping to appeal against that judgement in the European Court Of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France.

A judge is to assess their case within the coming months.

A spokesman for the European Court of Human Rights said: “Before the end of the year there will be a preliminary examination by the court regarding the admissibility of the application.’’

If the McCanns win the Portuguese Government may be ordered to pay them a cash settlement.

A source close to the UK police probe into Madeleine’s disappearance said that could fuel 'resentment’.

“The disappearance of Madeleine has already cost Portugal,’’ they said.

"Tourism was badly affected afterwards.

“Now the possibility of having to pay money to a couple who – in many locals’ eyes – left their child to fate while they went out could cause resentment.’’

Then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from her family’s apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz while her parents dined with pals in a nearby tapas bar in 2007.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-taking-legal-21424524

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As sandancer said up-page, folk are sick and tired of the McCanns and their various sources that regularly churn out this crap year on year.

Past time clan McCann and this gaggle of hacks left the stage.

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Post by Jill Havern on 04.02.20 15:16

Isn't it coming up for the renewed Grange funding time of year soon, swiftly followed by the 13th anniversary?

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Post by Verdi on 04.02.20 15:18

Eggs..act..lee spin

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Post by PeterMac on 04.02.20 15:50

Why an article at all.
That which is 'true' we knew already, from some time ago
Other bits are simply the normal Tabloid Nonsense.  Repeated Falsehoods.

And on their own admission there may only be a ruling on the admissibility of the case in the first place before the end of 2020. Hardly NEWS !

So it must be there for some other reason.
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Post by sar on 04.02.20 17:45

@Jill Havern wrote:Isn't it coming up for the renewed Grange funding time of year soon, swiftly followed by the 13th anniversary?
13 is "unlucky for some"
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Post by sharonl on 04.02.20 19:35

@Jill Havern wrote:Isn't it coming up for the renewed Grange funding time of year soon, swiftly followed by the 13th anniversary?

This will be interesting to see.

We had interference from Blair and Brown

Cameron and May gave in to funding Grange

think  What will Boris do?

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Post by PeterMac on 04.02.20 20:36

Do we want Grange to continue, so that the case is still "Open", 
or
Do we want it to close, so the McCann team can claim martyred status, plead for more millions of public money,
go on television programmes complaining about everyone and everything, and start to imply that they have
by definition been exonerated by the Met as well as by the Portuguese.
'There was no evidence . . ."  has been a frequent, if untrue, Mantra they have used fairly successfully so far.

Just a thought.
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Post by Jill Havern on 04.02.20 21:09

I want it to stay open, but with a proper investigation!

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Post by CaKeLoveR on 04.02.20 21:15

It should stay open, but be led by the best brains of CMOMM.
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Post by sharonl on 04.02.20 23:02

I say close it down.  Re-open the official investigation in Portugal and when that's completed, arrange a full public inquiry into Op Grange.

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Post by Verdi on 04.02.20 23:43

Forget it. Nigh on thirteen years down the line and no progress.

The case is a dead duck. It died end of the summer 2007 when Snr Amaral was removed.

Whether or not Operation Grange is finally wound down makes no difference to the situation the McCanns find themselves in. The world has lost interest in this charade - the only thing that would rekindle interest would be if someone/anyone of any significance winkwink is brought to justice.

Face it .... that ain't ever going to happen.

Maybe a movie, maybe more books, maybe more documentaries but one thing for sure, the McCanns have out-played their global attention seeking.

As an aside, there are any number of unsolved mysteries still lurking in the annals of time - the death of Princess Diana being one, a case far more important to the nation than the likes of the McCanns.

Governments and politicians come and they go but the mysteries remain just that - mysteries. There are cases that can never be officially solved - why else can they be classified mysteries?

Madeleine McCann's disappearance is not a mystery, it's the conspiratorial cover-up that's created the mystery.

The show ended around the 10th anniversary - all but.

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Post by worriedmum on 06.02.20 19:28

@Verdi wrote:Forget it.  Nigh on thirteen years down the line and no progress.

The case is a dead duck.  It died end of the summer 2007 when Snr Amaral was removed.

Whether or not Operation Grange is finally wound down makes no difference to the situation the McCanns find themselves in.  The world has lost interest in this charade - the only thing that would rekindle interest would be if someone/anyone of any significance winkwink is brought to justice.

Face it .... that ain't ever going to happen.

Maybe a movie, maybe more books, maybe more documentaries but one thing for sure, the McCanns have out-played their global attention seeking.

As an aside, there are any number of unsolved mysteries still lurking in the annals of time - the death of Princess Diana being one, a case far more important to the nation than the likes of the McCanns.

Governments and politicians come and they go but the mysteries remain just that - mysteries.  There are cases that can never be officially solved - why else can they be classified mysteries?

Madeleine McCann's disappearance is not a mystery, it's the conspiratorial cover-up that's created the mystery.

The show ended around the 10th anniversary - all but.
I see that there is progress on both Stuart Lubbock and Lee Balkwell's cases. This forum has been in existence for long enough for us to know that persistence is key. The Truth always comes out.
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Post by Tom Moore on 15.02.20 23:17

How can Kate and Gerry McCann possibly succeed in the European Court of Human Rights when Article 17 seems to exclude them?


"Nothing in this Convention may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein or at their limitation to a greater extent than is provided for in the Convention."


In prohibiting the “abuse of rights” Article 17 is geared to providing democracies with the means of combating acts and activities which destroy or unduly restrict fundamental rights and freedoms, whether those acts or activities are carried out by a “State”, a “group” or an “individual” (Bîrsan v. Romania).
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Post by PeterMac on 16.02.20 9:53

It must stay open.
To close it would / WILL open the floodgates for litigation by the McCanns against anyone who dares to have an opinion.   The Press will be told what to write, individuals will be gagged, and they and Tudor Adams will be able to squash all freedom of thought, as well as of speech.
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