Still running... away with it

pauline wrote:

anil39200 wrote:Thinking about it, for a person who looked so frail at the LI, is running really a good idea, one hopes she has seen a doctor and taken advice first!

The organisers of the run should insist the Mccanns get a health clearance certificate before they run - because if Kate and/or gerry collapse on the run they will sue the organisers for not checking out their health before the run when it is a fact (they say so) that they are both permanently ill from the nasty things people like Amaral and Bennett have written.

What nasty things? nasty = truth you mean?

Well, if the mccanns think the truth is nasty, think what we think about the nasty things (truth) they did and wanted hidden from the world!

They cant have it both way, if they think the truth is nasty then what they did was NASTY - simple as.

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Oh how I hate it when the McCanns gatecrash a genuine charity event!!!

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The Gruesome Twosome make me so angry. Watching them all smug and pretending to be activists and fund raisers for missing children! They carelessly mislaid (at best!) their 3 year old. I watched Claudia Lawrences father on tv this morning choking back tears 3 years after her disappearance (baring in mind she was a grown woman), and they couldn't manage that sort of emotion hours/days after their baby was gone/abducted/murdered/dead. They should give all the proceeds to the people who have actually spent time looking for their daughter, like Amaral, or the police review teams - they have done sod all to aid searches and everything to hinder them.

On the findmadeleine website homepage the Missing People run is on the home page. When you click in for more info you get the last update of K & G for 21st December. Amazing how it's disappeared. I would have thought (but that's just my opinion) that there would have been a host of photographs and the blog about how wonderful and rewarding the day was, especially as K thanked everyone for looking at her page and donating to Missing People only for it to be unavailable the day after the run. Why wipe it? I realise yesterday was Mothering Sunday but someone removed the page....once again...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I await, with baited breath the latest update.

Bait your breath no more Aquila. There is a brief update on the charity run.

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Has anyone seen this? Mccanns Sweden interview in relation to their bewk promotion.

maybe mod may want to move this to an appropriate thread, else it risks being lost in this one.
This one is particularly important in light of the Yard's review, as this interview is recent. It just goes to show they have the flaming cheeks to continue their charade.

Just watch the eyes of gerry and kate (blinking like stars) and compared them to the interviewer.

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Has anyone seen this? Mccanns Sweden interview in relation to their bewk promotion.

maybe mod may want to move this to an appropriate thread, else it risks being lost in this one.
This one is particularly important in light of the Yard's review, as this interview is recent. It just goes to show they have the flaming cheeks to continue their charade.

Just watch the eyes of gerry and kate (blinking like stars) and compared them to the interviewer.

Apart from Kate's re-styling and 'youthful' lock over Gerry's forehead - straight away the last 'image' is the 'last photograph' but it's only elaborated on slightly - she was paddling and that is the last image we have of her.....
Dr. Roberts and Blacksmith both commented on the fact that they seem to have NO memory of Maddie in PdL except via photographs.
Couldn't bear to watch the whole thing, was just beginning to feel pleasantly relaxed for the weekend, perhaps when I'm stronger - have the Prozac and the wine and some left over crockery standing by to throw against the wall.....

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Has anyone seen this? Mccanns Sweden interview in relation to their bewk promotion.

maybe mod may want to move this to an appropriate thread, else it risks being lost in this one.
This one is particularly important in light of the Yard's review, as this interview is recent. It just goes to show they have the flaming cheeks to continue their charade.

Just watch the eyes of gerry and kate (blinking like stars) and compared them to the interviewer.

GM didn't answer the sedative question.

I come and check very often your comments on the case and I never take part although I have a strong opinion on my own, I watched the latest MC interview and I can't help thinking they feel secure with the SY investigation or as someone said 'they have the cheek'. We caught Kate lying again in regards to the blood found in the appartment. These two are good you know (at acting)[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Has anyone seen this? Mccanns Sweden interview in relation to their bewk promotion.

maybe mod may want to move this to an appropriate thread, else it risks being lost in this one.
This one is particularly important in light of the Yard's review, as this interview is recent. It just goes to show they have the flaming cheeks to continue their charade.

Just watch the eyes of gerry and kate (blinking like stars) and compared them to the interviewer.

Couldn't stomach it beyond 18 mins. :bad:
11:36 ...lies after lies that were appearing in the papers...blood that didn't exist

Maybe mod could revert this topic heading to the original so we can carry on here with the discussion?

Have done that Ribisl

candyfloss wrote:Have done that Ribisl

Whoa that was quick! Thanks candyfloss

quick post as I cant find this video moved elsewhere.
Interesting camera position, Gerry's facial expressions visible at times when his wife was speaking, it cut to his face. Shame the same not done vice versa.
He was his usual composed controlled self.
Not so his wife. Composed and speaking to a script like her husband a lot of the time, but she is not like him and could not maintain it. Visibly and suddenly her eyes were full of tears and she was distressed the moment she got to speaking about that night, especially when describing going into her and Gerry's room.
Something happened here I am convinced.

russiandoll wrote:quick post as I cant find this video moved elsewhere.
Interesting camera position, Gerry's facial expressions visible at times when his wife was speaking, it cut to his face. Shame the same not done vice versa.
He was his usual composed controlled self.
Not so his wife. Composed and speaking to a script like her husband a lot of the time, but she is not like him and could not maintain it. Visibly and suddenly her eyes were full of tears and she was distressed the moment she got to speaking about that night, especially when describing going into her and Gerry's room.
Something happened here I am convinced.

Me too.
God, for once, I just wish SOMEONE would be brave enough to confront this lying pair of scumbags!
How's about producing a copy of the forensic report next time K is blethering about 'no blood found in apartment'
That would be priceless.

Several people on MM pointed out that Gerry said (first time?)

it was a collective mistake T 7 take note? Handing out the song sheet?

tigger wrote:Several people on MM pointed out that Gerry said (first time?)

it was a collective mistake T 7 take note? Handing out the song sheet?

I think you have a point with the songsheet...a particular song that comes to mind is 'stand by your man'

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aquila wrote:

tigger wrote:Several people on MM pointed out that Gerry said (first time?)

it was a collective mistake T 7 take note? Handing out the song sheet?

I think you have a point with the songsheet...a particular song that comes to mind is 'stand by your man'

Kate standing by her man as long as he doesn't get any closer
Gerry cold-eyeing her wondering if she's passed the sell-by date and is no longer such a good marketing ploy
They appear to have distanced themselves not only from Madeleine but also from each other.

I see we're still off topic so would like to add...Gerry looks to me as if he is really watching closely when Kate speaks, as if he is concentrating fully on every word she says... checking she stays " on message" [ had to use the political term, no other one for it imo].
It is all so carefully scripted, he still is making the back garden comparison, idiot.
The interviewer was wonderful, totally non-confrontational in his approach, yet his facial expression spoke volumes.....there were points when you very nearly saw a raised eyebrow, even minus that, the look on his face said it all. He looked to me as if he was taking it all with a ton of salt.

I am going to watch again, to see how often K interrupts G comapred to vice versa.
Re that photo, I like the way his hand is on her arm, as if to stop her getting him in an uncomfortable clinch........I think it is interesting he does that, joking apart..............he has his hand on her arm, it is all about control imo.

Yes she idolises him I agree, clear from her book. Is she supporting him because he has something on her as leverage I wonder, has she made any medical mistakes, is there a whiff of scandal in her past?
Imo it is the men or some of them in that group who have done the disposal, the cover up, all starting with the timeline sheets. The women are protecting their men imo and JT is protecting her man, not either of the McCanns.
Much as I am shocked and angered at Kate McCann's actions or lack of them, I think she is a totally submissive controlled female, I think he is the mover and shaker and I think she is intimidated by him. He makes my skin crawl, she just makes me sad and angry.
I would be very surprised if she wrote the book without the controlling hand of Gerry, I bet it was his baby, that he proof read every word and insisted on alterations.

Why did they do it, even now? Why they hide their crime is easier to understand.
Why they continue to appear on international tv to lie is a $64M question.
The poster who said the review is giving them a false sense of security may be right - they are continuing to fool themselves.
See how they were able to repeat the same lies over and over again.

They discarded their backyard story because it makes they look stupid anyway the "as if dinning in their back garden" line.
Now Kate said its 70m as the crow files.
She was still peddling the open window and whooshing curtains demonstrated with the same hands gesture.
She mentioned the Yard reviewing files and leads in the same breath.
Still saying no police force is looking that is why they had to do it themselves. (PR for her bewk no doubt. They must be very desperate about their finance if they are to meet mounting their legal costs.)

He mentioned there was no DNA In the hired car, something about there were five of them therefore something has to match, contradicting himself.
Also, he dragged his friends in, so it's a collective thing.


They both looked rough. Parents in a genuine situation of a missing child would also look rough, but there is something else about this pair - something eerily unnatural and very difficult to watch. Their face, not in congruence with their inner feeling, is there for all to see. They are wearing a mask, and whether they like it or not, their struggle to control against inner conscious it on display for all to see. Body language expert would have field days with this pair.

The guilt ravishing them from inside has taken its toll on them, more on kate than gerry.
She looks bloody awful if not for the make up and make over hairdo - cold eyes and tough set mouth and her infamous sighing and heaving of the chest at pretense of despair is very hard to watch.

Just look at the interviewer's quizzical expression - did he believe them?
This lying pair were neither spontaneous or tuned in with the wavelength of the interviewer and observers in the studio. They couldn't let themselves go with their emotion, just be natural and react to questions and be tuned into the interviewer wavelength and tell their story as it was. They can't - simple as - because they were trying hard to say contrary to truth as they knew it. Their inner reality is at odd with the front they put up and there is just no connectivity in vibes either way. No one in the studio can feel their truth neither can they feel the other party empathy if it was there, which should have been the case in an interview of in a genuine case of missing person.

They were placed apart for a change. so couldn't clutch each other for support. But just look how they sought eyes contact with each other when they answer questions, as if a need to affirm each other story tallies with their script and the looking at each other confirms their shared secret.

Everything about them is spooky and eerily unnatural...very difficult to watch. Both their expression cold rather than sad. Both were very controlled as if robotic programed to chant out a script.

Is that going to help them sell their bewk....I dont know?

Great post Aiyoyo!

Must have been unpleasant for them to sit apart and check all the time whether one of them - usually Gerry - isn't writing a bad cheque with his/her answers. (as Dr. Roberts said about the Australian interview).

So now 5a has moved from 49 to 70 meters as the crow flies, it still doesn't get you there any faster. I can see only one solution to this problem, just move the whole Tapas Bar right next door to 5a, under the balcony, that should do the trick.

Kate is still on about those curtains "whooshing" anyone who has seen how long they were & that the bed & wicker chair were holding them back would smell a rat but as usual the interviewer let them away scot free and clearly hadn't read the official police files (aka evidence) on the case.

This is acually a Norwegian show, Skavlan is Norwegian and NRK, the channel sending it is runned by the state..The show is now beeing taped in sweden though... I can't believe I missed it, going to watch it know.

Gillyspot wrote:Kate is still on about those curtains "whooshing" anyone who has seen how long they were & that the bed & wicker chair were holding them back would smell a rat but as usual the interviewer let them away scot free and clearly hadn't read the official police files (aka evidence) on the case.

He probably doesn't even know these files are on the internet for all to see. In any case, all interviews are scripted and even in the early days - I think it's in the June topic Kate said something about some of the rehearsals for the interviews taking up to three hours.....
Has that changed yet? You'd have thought they'd be word perfect by now.

aiyoyo wrote:Why did they do it, even now? Why they hide their crime is easier to understand.
Why they continue to appear on international tv to lie is a $64M question.
The poster who said the review is giving them a false sense of security may be right - they are continuing to fool themselves.
See how they were able to repeat the same lies over and over again.

They discarded their backyard story because it makes they look stupid anyway the "as if dinning in their back garden" line.
Now Kate said its 70m as the crow files.
She was still peddling the open window and whooshing curtains demonstrated with the same hands gesture.
She mentioned the Yard reviewing files and leads in the same breath.
Still saying no police force is looking that is why they had to do it themselves. (PR for her bewk no doubt. They must be very desperate about their finance if they are to meet mounting their legal costs.)

He mentioned there was no DNA In the hired car, something about there were five of them therefore something has to match, contradicting himself.
Also, he dragged his friends in, so it's a collective thing.


They both looked rough. Parents in a genuine situation of a missing child would also look rough, but there is something else about this pair - something eerily unnatural and very difficult to watch. Their face, not in congruence with their inner feeling, is there for all to see. They are wearing a mask, and whether they like it or not, their struggle to control against inner conscious it on display for all to see. Body language expert would have field days with this pair.

The guilt ravishing them from inside has taken its toll on them, more on kate than gerry.
She looks bloody awful if not for the make up and make over hairdo - cold eyes and tough set mouth and her infamous sighing and heaving of the chest at pretense of despair is very hard to watch.

Just look at the interviewer's quizzical expression - did he believe them?
This lying pair were neither spontaneous or tuned in with the wavelength of the interviewer and observers in the studio. They couldn't let themselves go with their emotion, just be natural and react to questions and be tuned into the interviewer wavelength and tell their story as it was. They can't - simple as - because they were trying hard to say contrary to truth as they knew it. Their inner reality is at odd with the front they put up and there is just no connectivity in vibes either way. No one in the studio can feel their truth neither can they feel the other party empathy if it was there, which should have been the case in an interview of in a genuine case of missing person.

They were placed apart for a change. so couldn't clutch each other for support. But just look how they sought eyes contact with each other when they answer questions, as if a need to affirm each other story tallies with their script and the looking at each other confirms their shared secret.

Everything about them is spooky and eerily unnatural...very difficult to watch. Both their expression cold rather than sad. Both were very controlled as if robotic programed to chant out a script.

Is that going to help them sell their bewk....I dont know?

aiyoyo, gold star!
you have summed up my feelings about this pair completely. They are eerie, spooky and difficult to watch - a detachment that is very disturbing.
You are right that they look terrible, K especially. Five years of having to self-censor everything you say publicly, five years of waiting for that possible knock on the door. Its eating them up from inside like a cancer. I want to shake them!
I am a very compassionate, empathetic person. I can regularly be found sobbing over people's heartbreak. These two just make me sick. Any sobbing would be out of sheer frustration that anyone could possibly believe their silly tale, especially after watching them.
I do not have any qualifications in body language, but having realised I have an innate instinct I've studied it extensively. They show absolute incongruence.
I always say that sometimes, a liar will look like they are telling the truth if they are very good. Conversely, someone telling the truth will never show signs of lying.

Just watched this interview. Its the little things really which now make me even more suspicious of their involvement. Their interviewing seems to have become like a mantra, repeating the main core story, but with slight embellishments here and there to make the story slick.

The little mistakes are the ones that trip a person up," 70 metres as the clow fries" almost but was quickly put right, and the twins viewing "the abduction as a burgelry", not a burglary. Apparently it was a man, the man that friend JT saw carrying a child, this is now trotted out almost parrot fashion, there are many more of these in the interview, These little slips display a lack of real belief in the scenario . There are two other important points I think IMO might be worth adding to the excellent posts others have written. First, I think the idea of sitting opposite may well be a way of affirming each other, but also the way the mother gazes "Diana-like" sadly into the camera, with an almost doe-like expression and holds the gaze for just too long for it to be real emotion, its practised, but IMO its done to make the viewer feel sorry with her.

The father also seems to need to be constantly ibn control, I think the interviewer tried to be neutral and was not sycophantic like some daytime presenters on UK TV have been with them, but I agree, you do ache for someone to put a few real testing questions to them. However, I guess by now all questions are pre-checked prior to the interview. She seemed haunted as someone else mentioned, but there definitely has been some restyling done on both of them as the father is made to look relaxed and in control . To me, and again purely IMO, they still look distant and detached and again seem to avoid responsibility for their part in it all.

oops forgot to add interesting use of the word unequivocally, in regard to their involvement, havent heard him use that one before, but it adds weight to the idea that "it wasnt us"

anil39200 wrote:Just watched this interview. Its the little things really which now make me even more suspicious of their involvement. Their interviewing seems to have become like a mantra, repeating the main core story, but with slight embellishments here and there to make the story slick.

The little mistakes are the ones that trip a person up," 70 metres as the clow fries" almost but was quickly put right, and the twins viewing "the abduction as a burgelry", not a burglary. Apparently it was a man, the man that friend JT saw carrying a child, this is now trotted out almost parrot fashion, there are many more of these in the interview, These little slips display a lack of real belief in the scenario . There are two other important points I think IMO might be worth adding to the excellent posts others have written. First, I think the idea of sitting opposite may well be a way of affirming each other, but also the way the mother gazes "Diana-like" sadly into the camera, with an almost doe-like expression and holds the gaze for just too long for it to be real emotion, its practised, but IMO its done to make the viewer feel sorry with her.

The father also seems to need to be constantly ibn control, I think the interviewer tried to be neutral and was not sycophantic like some daytime presenters on UK TV have been with them, but I agree, you do ache for someone to put a few real testing questions to them. However, I guess by now all questions are pre-checked prior to the interview. She seemed haunted as someone else mentioned, but there definitely has been some restyling done on both of them as the father is made to look relaxed and in control . To me, and again purely IMO, they still look distant and detached and again seem to avoid responsibility for their part in it all.

Oh you betcha the questions are pre-checked and rehearsed and have been since the earliest days which tells you all you need to know.
It'd just be good to see an interviewer drop an enexpected question in (could they be sued for this? Breach of contract?) We wouldn't necessarily need an answer. The reaction itself would tell us enough.

Incidentally, browsing the 'net I found a quote which relates to what we are saying. When I can get to a laptop I'm going to attach it to my signature:

"Truth is artless and innocent--like the eloquence of nature, it is clothed with simplicity and easy persuasion; always open to investigation and analysis, it seeks exposure, because it fears not detection."

NORMAN MACDONALD, Maxims and Moral Reflections

A very interesting interview, I'm amazed they managed to sit them apart from each other and thought Kate seemed very intimidated at the start, I think Kate only cries when she feels the interviewer is less than sympathetic or not busy wrapping them in cotton wool. That couple are such a contrast, Gerry almost sneering and Kate begging for sympathy. The interviewer played a blinder, straight down the line, watching them both very intently and giving very little away. I'm only sorry he didn't bring up the fund and how the money is being spent now that SY are using the taxpayers money on the search again.

Look at 13.50 - 14.10 When asked how daily life is now , she say: Life will never be normal again, because of what happened..Not: Life will not be normal until Madeleine returns or something in that direction..