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Post by tigger 08.05.12 7:16

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4303181/Cops-to-check-Costa-del-Sol-sighting-of-Madeleine-McCann.html

This really takes the biscuit. Has the Olive Press got it?

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Post by uppatoffee 08.05.12 7:28

I am curious to know which photo of Maddie this little blonde girl looked like. Was it the one on the front of the book? Where she was nearly 2 years younger than the real Maddie? Or the pool photo one, which wasn't released at the time of this "sighting." And fancy wearing the same clothes two days running. What a shocker! big grin
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Post by mrscee 08.05.12 7:30

Tigger I think this was the lady who commented on one of the Olive press stories mentioning this 'sighting' and the editor said he would love her to call their hotline. Looks like the Sun got there first!

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Post by Gillyspot 08.05.12 7:40

This rubbish says it all

"Now Brit cops have been told the family paid extra for bringing one child more than expected when they arrived at the site on May 6."

It states on booking ONE CHILD

"She did not seem to fit with the German couple or their two curly-haired toddlers."

So there were 3 children or if toddlers (eg under 2's) not count on booking forms in which case the ONE CHILD was correct.

Yet another attempt to make sense (& fail spectactularly) by Ms Lazzeri.




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Post by mrscee 08.05.12 7:44

PeterMac wrote:This is getting really silly now.
17:10 Spanish time, 16:10 English, Saturday 5th May.
They have put BACK No 11 from me and renumbered them all. With your indulgence I shall copy and paste.

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1 Karen Sisson says:
May 3, 2012 at 7:25 am
This has made me gasp as I reported seeing a girl like Madeleine 3 days after it happened in 2007 with a family in Cabopino Campsite,nr Marbella they also had a dark blue people carrier. She too was with them but apart and distant,I reported it several times but don’t know if it was investigated thoroughlly. It too was a very haunting image as she was not interacting with the family and looked very sad.

2 Jon Clarke (Publisher) says:
May 3, 2012 at 8:52 am
Hi karen, we would love to talk to you about this…we have now had at least half a dozen very good ‘sightings’ of maddie on the costa del sol…I really hope somebody can produce the killer fact!
Give our newsdesk a call on 951166060
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3 John Harris says:
May 3, 2012 at 8:52 am
Dear Portuguese police,
Please re-open this case and followup the leads you disregarded 5 years ago.
Maddy is probably living in some kind of a sub-basement where she is confined, doesn’t remember who she is and they’re probably keeping her drugged up on anti-depressants.
Please find her alive and return her asap to her parents. Please.

4 adriana says:
May 3, 2012 at 9:27 am
I hope you will soon find

5 Amanda says:
May 3, 2012 at 11:46 am
This sounds like it was madeleine mccann, and the portuguese police needs to search for a Madeline mccann hwho is alive! And they must do everything they can to find this girl and bring her home to her parents, that she very much need, becuase of this artickle i am shore she must be miserable, and she could be sick (mentaly ill) so i cant see why this couple is not returning her back to her real family,cause she must be unhappy.

6 SUSAN WALKER says:
May 3, 2012 at 2:55 pm
For goodness sake why have all these clues not been chased up and investigated, this is a life we are talking about here, everything possible should be done to find this child and reunite her with her parents, I stayed in Portugal and I must say there were many gypsies in the area, that did make us feel a bit uncomfortable, can everyone today on the anniversary of her disappearence please please pray for her return, you cannot underestimate the power of prayer, just look at Patrice Muamba he is living proof of prayer

7 SUSAN WALKER says:
May 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm
please can everyone at some point today on the anniversary of maddie mccanns disappearance prayer for her safe return , the more people that do this the better the chance of it happening just look at what the power of prayer did for Patric Muamba he has been described as a miracle

8 Gresham says:
May 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Remember to keep an eye open for Elvis.

9 PM says:
May 3, 2012 at 3:38 pm
SUSAN WALKER says: For goodness sake why have all these clues not been chased up and investigated,” and at the same time ask why all these people ALWAYS wait a year before telling anyone. There is a pattern emerging.

10 Rich says:
May 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm
WHY has the lady only JUST come forward now after “seeing her last summer”?

11 PM says:
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May 3, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Incidentally why have you now changed the name of the person from “Rosalie Bray” in the 25/4 piece to “Rose Johnson”, the same name yo are using in today’s piece. What are you doing ?

12 Andy says:
May 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm
She was very stupid not to take a pic.

13 Ana says:
May 3, 2012 at 7:45 pm
When my son was about 6 I went to pick him up from a party in a ball park, he wasn’t there, and the host couldn’t remember when she last seen him, we immediately launched a search and within ten minutes found him playing under some balls. In those ten minutes my heart pounded like a hammer inside my rib cage, I felt an unbelievable pain, I don’t think I could of managed 20 minutes of that, and these people have lived that pain for 5 years. Yet people still like to be cruel to them.

14 PM says:
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I thought we all had to give our email address when we logged in. In which case you can just contact Karen direct, or trace her through the IP Address which will show up on your system.

15 lynda neary says:
May 3, 2012 at 9:02 pm
if it is maddie these witness had sightings off ,why would the people who took her let her be in a world of her own ,they went to the trouble of kidnapping her ,and if it is maddie draw attention the way they are supposed to be , it does not make sense .i just hope the next person to to get a sighting ,does more about it at the time ,

16 sinbad says:
May 3, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Gresham you are a fool

17 stefanjo says:
May 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Sinbad: Gresham, on this subject at least, is no dafter than all these would-be Sherlocks and Miss Marples. None of them have a clue, they just indulge in wild speculation. Get a life, for Gods sake.

18 june says:
May 3, 2012 at 11:37 pm
stefanjo indulging in speculation is surely not as hideous as spotting madeleine and taking years to come forward, duh, idiots, totally incredible, liars

19 Amy says:
May 3, 2012 at 11:44 pm
It’s horrible that I used to live around this area where she has continuously been sighted and not think to look out for her.
Going out to Nerja in June this year, so will be keeping an eye out with my camera at the ready.
Hope we can find Madeleine xo

20 june says:
May 4, 2012 at 2:18 am
why has olive press deleted their article of 25 april where they mucked up the name of the witness here oh dear LOL its all screen shot

21 june says:
May 4, 2012 at 2:28 am
ignore my last post, error

22 PM says:
May 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Amy. If you do see Madeleine you MUST play by the rules, and not report it until the next anniversary, or the launch of the next book. On no account must you stay close to the child, or speak to her, or speak to the people she is with, or look at her right eye, or note the registration number of the car they get into, or use your mobile phone to take a photo, or even to ring the police. The best thing to do is to walk away and wait until next spring, when you can have your 15 minutes of infamy.

23 Karen Sisson says:
May 4, 2012 at 3:23 pm
May, you are so wrong on all counts, just because details of registration numbers etc are not published in the press does not mean they were not gathered,just because reports were not published in the press earlier does not mean they have not been reported to the police,several times. You know how the enquiry was run, sightings and evidence have not been acted on efficiently by the police which is why it is no further on 5 yrs down the line. No-one wants to get famous out of this they just want to know that their evidence has been taken into account and eliminated so they can move on. The Mccanns asked for anyone who knew anything to come forward again in case it had been missed.

24 Rickard says:
May 4, 2012 at 3:55 pm
PM – LOL!

25 june says:
May 4, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Karen Sisson, did you not read the article here where a lady spotted Madeleine and was 100% sure it was her, but she had guests over at Xmas and couldn’t get away for a whole week to report it. You are having a laugh. Last time I checked, people in costa del sol have both landlines and mobiles.

26 PM says:
May 5, 2012 at 8:15 am
Karen Sisson … The Mccanns asked for anyone who knew anything to come forward again in case it had been missed.” *** – - But when Martin Grime took the best trained blood and cadaverine detection dogs in the world, they dismissed them as “notoriously unreliable”. If your child had gone missing and a dog indicted blood and cadaverine in your house, would your reaction be simply to say it was impossible, or would you fold up with grief and dread at what it actually implied ? And when you were asked about “Sightings” of your child, would you grin and laugh, or would you be on the phone to the police in that place, even if you did not go yourself ? And would you actually search for your child, or spend the first evening deleting calls and messages from your mobile phone ? And so on.

27 PM says:
May 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Is there any reason why people in the UK get a different set of Comments, and are not allowed to read some which are allowed here ?

28 Karl Smallman (Web Manager) says:
May 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm
PM – everyone, no matter where they’re browsing our web site from, should see the same article comments.

29 PM says:
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May 5, 2012 at 3:47 pm
They don’t. They could not see my comment No 11, which you have now taken down on this one too. The one about your changing the name of the witness on a previous article. Luckily we have screen shots and copies of the articles and the comments before and after ‘amendment’. We have learned to do this with anything associated with this case.

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May 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm
And now you have put back No 11 again. Don’t get it.

They have also put back my No 14, which had been missing for some time !
I suspect the crack about the screen shots and the copies has really spooked them.

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Post by mrscee 08.05.12 7:47

Hope it is ok that i copied o ver from other thread
- Karen sisson same lady. Also must be links between olive press and the sun.

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mrscee wrote:Also must be links between olive press and the sun.
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Post by tigger 08.05.12 8:02

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mrscee wrote:Also must be links between olive press and the sun.
Another Costa sighting! A10

I think PeterMac's last comment wasn't accepted. It was simply a question if NI and OP were connected. In bed together I'd say!

OP is a useful 'source' for the tabloids etc. A fail-safe device to cover the tabloids. OP gets a story 'given' - runs it and any time a tabloids wants to pick it up and run with it they can. Should a lawyer come calling about libel or misrepresentation, it falls back on the OP - who've got no money and will not be sued.

Just my cynical take on it.

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Post by sami 08.05.12 8:04

Gillyspot wrote:This rubbish says it all

"Now Brit cops have been told the family paid extra for bringing one child more than expected when they arrived at the site on May 6."

It states on booking ONE CHILD

"She did not seem to fit with the German couple or their two curly-haired toddlers."

So there were 3 children or if toddlers (eg under 2's) not count on booking forms in which case the ONE CHILD was correct.

Yet another attempt to make sense (& fail spectactularly) by Ms Lazzeri.


While on holiday one year I "gained" an extra child overnight. Very simple reason. We accidently met a family we knew from my childs school who were staying close by but not in the same place. Their child who was friendly with my child back home came and stayed with us for two nights. A "sleep over" on holidays, the children were delighted.

I am sure it may have looked odd to people if they just glanced at us - a child appears for two days with me then disappeared again. But a very simple explanation.
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Post by tigger 08.05.12 8:18

This is from the topic 'the Olive Press again 3rd May.
The comments below are what the Sun has managed to pick up. Now off to see if OP has printed Karen's story first..

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1 Karen Sisson says:
May 3, 2012 at 7:25 am
This has made me gasp as I reported seeing a girl like Madeleine 3 days after it happened in 2007 with a family in Cabopino Campsite,nr Marbella they also had a dark blue people carrier. She too was with them but apart and distant,I reported it several times but don’t know if it was investigated thoroughlly. It too was a very haunting image as she was not interacting with the family and looked very sad.

2 Jon Clarke (Publisher) says:
May 3, 2012 at 8:52 am
Hi karen, we would love to talk to you about this…we have now had at least half a dozen very good ‘sightings’ of maddie on the costa del sol…I really hope somebody can produce the killer fact!
Give our newsdesk a call on 951166060
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Post by pauline 08.05.12 9:54

if this couple were the kidnappers with a devious plan to hide English speaking Madeleine on a campsite where there would be English speaking families, why did they draw attention to themselves by paying for an extra child?

In my experience of camping, your car is not searched to ensure you have only the children booked. You park your car near reception - go in with your booking details and pay any money now due, maybe a security deposit. They give you the key to your mobile and tell you where it is - give you a map of the campsite.

This family probably booked a small mobile suitable for 4 then added a child (niece or friends child?) and had to point it out to get a bigger mobile. If they were the kidnappers with this devious plan to hide on the campsite they would have booked a big enough mobile and surely booked for three children in the first place. Kate says they must have been watched and the book in reception in the tapas bar gave away the fact that the children were alone. So if this couple are guilty they must have been in PDL and made a totally spur of the minute decision to enter this ground floor apartment (and been lucky to find the patio doors unlocked) in the hope there would be a child to take.....with presumably their two children outside in the car while they took Madeleine!!!!
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Post by PeterMac 08.05.12 11:35

It is up on the OP website.
Marked Exclusive, despite its having already appeared in the Sun !
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2012/05/08/did-german-couple-snatch-maddie-mccann/

Did German couple snatch Maddie McCann?
MAY 8, 2012 • ANDALUCIA, GIBRALTAR, LEAD, MALAGA, NATIONAL NEWS • 0 COMMENTS
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• KAREN SISSON INSISTS SHE SAW MADDIE ON A CAMPSITE IN CABOPINO THREE DAYS AFTER SHE WAS SNATCHED FROM PORTUGAL
EXCLUSIVE By Wendy Williams and Jon Clarke in Cabopino
A BRITISH woman is convinced she saw missing Madeleine McCann with a German or Dutch couple just days after she was snatched.
Mother-of-two Karen Sisson, 49, was so convinced she had seen the three-year-old on a Spanish campsite that she contacted police in three different countries to investigate.
According to Sisson, the mysterious girl did not speak and seemed ‘out of it and extremely removed from her family.’
She added that she looked confused and didn’t seem to socialise properly with the couple.
But despite filing a report with both British and Spanish police at the time, giving descriptions and a car numberplate, Sisson, who lives in Gibraltar, is certain the sighting was never investigated.
Intriguingly The Olive Press has now managed to locate details of a German family – under the name ‘Karsten Meyer’ – who did indeed check into the Cabopino campsite, near Fuengirola, three days after Maddie disappeared.
An easy drive from where Maddie went missing in Praia de Luz, in neighbouring Portugal, it would certainly have been a good place to lie low for a week, with few tourists at that time of year.
Even more intriguingly, records from the campsite show that the couple actually paid a supplement on arrival on May 6 for an ‘extra child’ having originally booked themselves in as one family.
They had a blue Mercedes Vita van and were towing a caravan.
A numberplate recorded by the campsite, which began ‘BE’ with five letters has not been used in Germany since 1974, although the first Vita van’s were only manufactured in 1996.
While photographic records of the car they were driving have now been deleted, a receptionist agreed the entire booking seemed ‘a little odd’.

“I don’t know why they wouldn’t have booked everyone in together in the first place,” said an employee, who was working at the campsite at the time.
“But this is the first we have heard about any possible Maddie sighting here and police have certainly never been in touch.”
It is this discrepancy that has so irritated Sisson, who this week once again contacted UK police investigating the case.
“There was something strange about it all,” explained the Durham-born artist, who explained that the couple were of slim build and looked to be in their late thirties.
“It was like the girl was alienated and completely different to her family. It really was most peculiar,” said Sisson.
“She was sat on her own, not playing but just standing swaying as if in a dream. She looked really out of it.”
She continued: “It was also strange that they also had two toddlers, with curly blond hair, eerily like Sean and Amelie.
“And there were children’s toys, a bike and rollerblades around the caravan for a girl her age, so I had the impression maybe they had lost a girl and seen Maddie and wanted to replace her,” she added.
“I deliberately went to look at the girl again the next day and she was wearing the same clothes as the day before even though it was 27 degrees heat.
“A mother would know that this was a strange thing as children of that age go through so many clothes and love to strip off in the heat.
“I have a little girl myself who is just a year older than Maddie; it makes me think about it even more.”
She continued: “At one point the girl started to move towards the pool to play with other children and the lady came and got her and lead her back by the hand.
“She obviously did not want her playing with the other kids.”

Sisson had been on holiday with her husband Richard, a buyer for an electrical business in Gibraltar, when she first set eyes on the girl.
So convinced was she that it could be Maddie she actually made a two hour round trip a week later to check the family out again.
“I literally could not sleep, it haunted me and I decided to drive back to have a second look,” she said.
“It definitely looked like her, and again I contacted Crimestoppers and even my local Gibraltarian police, but nothing seems to have been done.”
The campsite confirmed that a Karsten Mayer had stayed there from May 6 to May 18, 2007.
As well as confirming the car number plate and a date of birth from 1970, they were also able to furnish a passport or ID number.
The Olive Press is now trying to track down the couple and the information has been passed on to police and the family.
A spokesman for the McCann’s said: “This lady has done exactly the right thing in reporting what she saw to police.”
The information has been passed on to Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange, now probing the crime.
The new sighting comes just days after a woman claimed she saw Maddie McCann on a beach near Nerja.
Rose Johnson, 70, told The Olive Press, that she saw the girl two summers ago with a family very different to her.
Hers is not the first sighting in the Nerja area, and just two weeks ago Portuguese police contacted their Spanish counterparts to investigate some leads in the area.
“The whole incident was just so haunting it really stuck in my mind,” concluded Sisson.
“It would have been so easy for them to get to the campsite from Portugal. I am sure they could go under the radar.
“She could easily be on the Costa del Sol and they didn’t look like your average holidaymakers, but much more like expats who might be moving around.
“People have asked me why didn’t I just get hold of her, but you just don’t feel like you can.
“You also don’t like the idea of being caught taking photos.
“You want the police to do their job and not you having to do it for them.
“I really think she’s still out there, and I hope they take these new leads seriously and not just put them in a pile.”
Did you stay at that campsite in 2007? Can you help locate Karsten Meyer? Please contact jon@theolivepress.es or wendy@theolivepress.es
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Post by aiyoyo 08.05.12 11:40



EXCLUSIVE

By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

DETECTIVES searching for Madeleine McCann are following up fresh clues from a potential sighting on Spain’s Costa del Sol.

A blonde girl identical to Madeleine was seen at a campsite there three days after she was snatched a few hours drive away in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007.

A witness said the groggy-looking child seemed alienated from the German family she was staying with in a caravan.

Now Brit cops have been told the family paid extra for bringing one child more than expected when they arrived at the site on May 6.

And questions over the number plates on their car have raised fears they could have been fakes used to dodge detection.

Holidaymaker Karen Sisson, 49, who saw the child at the Cabopino campsite, near Fuengirola, said she got no response from cops when she raised the alarm at the time.

Karen, of Gibraltar, said the girl wore a pink T-shirt, shorts and a beige hat and seemed “out of it”.

She did not seem to fit with the German couple or their two curly-haired toddlers.
Karen said: “She seemed alienated and completely different to her family. It really was most peculiar.”

The mum of two said her suspicions grew the next day when she saw the girl wearing the same clothes as the day before.

Karen left the day after, but the couple stayed two weeks. Campsite records seen by The Sun show they checked in under the name Karsten Mayer with a 1970 date of birth.

Their car had a “BE” German plate, which went out of official use 38 years ago. Karen believes their car was a blue Mercedes Vito people carrier, first produced in 1996.

Yesterday a source close to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann of Rothley, Leics, said the sighting had been passed on to Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange, set up to trace the youngster.

The McCann’s official spokesman said: “This lady has done exactly the right thing in reporting what she saw to police.”

Last month cops released a picture of how Madeleine might look now, at nine.

The article did not state when this Brit woman first made report to Police and which Police force?

If the mccanns had this information since way back in 2007, why did they wait till now to hand this over to "Scotland Yard's Operation Grange"? Why didnt they give it to their pte detectives to follow up if it was so CRUCIAL and since the inform contains 3 clues - like the name of the campsite. and vehicle no, and the german couple,

Why did this British woman wait until now (5 years later) to tell the Sun and also agreed to have her photo splashed on the page?

Sounds familiar yet?

Can anyone imagine AR came on National TV and blabbed there were 195 leads that need to be followed up, and this one has to be passed onto them by the mccanns, and this is the very one that the mccanns want investigated only now! So when did this sighting came to light?

Bloody hell I have heard it all!



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Post by PeterMac 08.05.12 11:45

EXCLUSIVE By Wendy Williams and Jon Clarke in Cabopino
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EXCLUSIVE
By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

Which ?
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Post by Guest 08.05.12 11:53

If they already had two children, why kidnapp one ?

And why do K and G always scream: " there is no evidence shes come to any harm ".. Oh so the fact shes missing from your family and was as you claim, taken from her bed by strangers, is not harmful for her in anyway? I mean isnt that the first clue that shes been harmed ? in the situation, how can they even say things like that?

Our country news copy the british news today about M, same rubish just another language...

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Post by sami 08.05.12 12:10

aiyoyo wrote:

EXCLUSIVE

By ANTONELLA LAZZERI

DETECTIVES searching for Madeleine McCann are following up fresh clues from a potential sighting on Spain’s Costa del Sol.

A blonde girl identical to Madeleine was seen at a campsite there three days after she was snatched a few hours drive away in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007.

A witness said the groggy-looking child seemed alienated from the German family she was staying with in a caravan.

Now Brit cops have been told the family paid extra for bringing one child more than expected when they arrived at the site on May 6.

And questions over the number plates on their car have raised fears they could have been fakes used to dodge detection.

Holidaymaker Karen Sisson, 49, who saw the child at the Cabopino campsite, near Fuengirola, said she got no response from cops when she raised the alarm at the time.

Karen, of Gibraltar, said the girl wore a pink T-shirt, shorts and a beige hat and seemed “out of it”.

She did not seem to fit with the German couple or their two curly-haired toddlers.
Karen said: “She seemed alienated and completely different to her family. It really was most peculiar.”

The mum of two said her suspicions grew the next day when she saw the girl wearing the same clothes as the day before.

Karen left the day after, but the couple stayed two weeks. Campsite records seen by The Sun show they checked in under the name Karsten Mayer with a 1970 date of birth.

Their car had a “BE” German plate, which went out of official use 38 years ago. Karen believes their car was a blue Mercedes Vito people carrier, first produced in 1996.

Yesterday a source close to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann of Rothley, Leics, said the sighting had been passed on to Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange, set up to trace the youngster.

The McCann’s official spokesman said: “This lady has done exactly the right thing in reporting what she saw to police.”

Last month cops released a picture of how Madeleine might look now, at nine.

The article did not state when this Brit woman first made report to Police and which Police force?

If the mccanns had this information since way back in 2007, why did they wait till now to hand this over to "Scotland Yard's Operation Grange"? Why didnt they give it to their pte detectives to follow up if it was so CRUCIAL and since the inform contains 3 clues - like the name of the campsite. and vehicle no, and the german couple,

Why did this British woman wait until now (5 years later) to tell the Sun and also agreed to have her photo splashed on the page?

Sounds familiar yet?

Can anyone imagine AR came on National TV and blabbed there were 195 leads that need to be followed up, and this one has to be passed onto them by the mccanns, and this is the very one that the mccanns want investigated only now! So when did this sighting came to light?

Bloody hell I have heard it all!


The whole thing, this sighting and all the others, begs the question what were the McCanns investigators hired to investigate all those years ? A lot of money wasted from the fund if they did not follow up these sightings. By not doing so, they must have been doing something else - what ?

On the other hand if these reports are all "new", there are rather a lot of muppets in the world.
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Post by Miraflores 08.05.12 12:26

Hmm, it's all very reminiscent of the little Moroccan girl, who was supposed to look just like Madeleine. Superficially, she did, until you compared the photos side by side.

What's the betting (if this little girl was sighted at all, and it's not all completely made up), that she just happened to be a blond 3 year old?
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Post by PeterMac 08.05.12 13:01

And the Costa is bracing itself for an influx of families from Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark, most of whom will have blonde children.
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Post by bristow 08.05.12 13:04

This comment is from Ms Sisson who 'saw Madeleine' and is 'setting the record straight' on the comment section from the Daily Mail article.

I am the woman in the article. Just to set the record straight I was not
on holiday but just a long weekend at a campsite that we go to
regularly, so I did not have a camera with me as it was not a really
special event for us. I am actually one of those people who do not have a
mobile phone. The story had only just broken on UK tv which I was
watching in Gibraltar so Spanish people did not know about it then and
they could have gone out without being challenged, in fact they could
still be in Spain unchallenged as there is little interest in the case
there. My family thought I was imagining things so I was not brave
enough to snatch her or anything like that and the report about the eye
defect had not been made public at first so I did not know about that.
I do know that I reported and reported it to everyone I could, even
before the hotline number and ever since and it has only been since a
local ex-pat newspaper followed it up that I know no police ever
investigated it.

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Post by nomendelta 08.05.12 13:26

Well I lived in Spain up until last November and I lived in a wee town in the middle of nowhere and there was interest there - there'd quite often be news magazine show articles about it and most Spanish villagers asked us, as Brits, what we thought. They universally thought the parents were to blame.

I think perhaps people are just fed up of the story but not actually disinterested as such - there is no attempt to control the press with fake sightings like there is here.
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Post by jd 08.05.12 13:29

“It definitely looked like her, and again I contacted Crimestoppers and even my local Gibraltarian police, but nothing seems to have been done.”

Crimestoppers...This must be one of the 'dreams' they forgot to pass on
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Post by tigger 08.05.12 13:33

An English speaking child with a German or Dutch family is going to stand out like a sore thumb. In both countries there is no way you'd be able to keep a child hidden, unless you locked her in a cellar. The rules on attending school are very strict - if she'd been living with a family she'd have had visits from the social services if she wasn't going to school.
Had they managed to pass her off as their own - there would still be the problem of Maddie speaking English and having to learn whatever language the kidnappers were using.
I meant to add: you need papers for everything - always carry an ID too.

I'm honestly beginning to think that this little exchange between OP and Karen was set up - out in public - very innocent. It's easily the most roundabout way to report a missing child. Probably some kind of record.


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Post by Guest 08.05.12 14:20

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Camping at a tourist beach with my newly kidnapped child: yeah, that makes sense. Another great "lead" for SY. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/9251571/Met-team-following-up-new-Madeleine-McCann-clues.html #McCann
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Tuesday, 8 May 2012





The Maddie Sightings - Nuggets and Dust or Fools Gold?





New File On Missing Madeleine Is 'Gold Dust' Sky News

Roddy Mansfield, Sky News Online

12:58pm UK, Wednesday March 03, 2010
A newly released file on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is "gold dust" and could lead to a breakthrough, her parents' spokesman has said.
Clarence Mitchell told Sky News it was disgraceful that information about possible sightings of Madeleine has only emerged now after sitting in a box since 2008, when the case was closed by Portuguese police.
"The McCanns have been tearing their hair out for a long time, they're very frustrated this information has been sitting in a file since July 2008," he said.

"This information is gold dust to them. Kate and Gerry need all of it and they want a full review of all the information it contains.

"Our investigators are working at times with one hand tied behind their back.
"Our investigators will now work very hard and three years on it will hopefully lead to the breakthrough Kate and Gerry have been waiting for."

Some snipped examples of what is construed as 'gold dust'...



"She looked so sad and so alone."

"...described her as "very agitated and sobbing".

"...were stunned when she cried out as a "tubby" man hurried her away."

"The girl just stood staring at me. The look in her eyes conveyed a feeling of 'Help me'."

"The girl just stood staring at me, I would say for about 10 seconds."

"She was just very shy and afraid."

“She hardly spent any time with the family and didn’t sit with the people she was with at all.”

"She was about eight and seemed really airy-fairy, and in a world of her own."

"She did not seem to fit with the German couple or their two curly-haired toddlers."


Clarence Mitchell said these chicken nuggets would be passed to their crack private investigators. As we've heard nothing more of this dust over the last two years, can we assume that nothing further has advanced and that they've been fully investigated and ruled out by Edgar and co? Or is Redwood working on Edgar's cast offs?


As for all these scared, agitated, sobbing tadpoles... Those with children will have knowledge that the 'terrible twos' are an absolute fallacy. The terrible twos appear before the second birthday and can continue indefinitely. Children change like the weather and can go from a loving, bundle of fun to a wild, frenzied banshee in the blink of an eye.


"I hate you"
"Help me"
"Leave me alone"


...are common phrases heard in the banshee state. The banshee state can be caused by a number of things including tiredness, irritability. Simply not getting their own way is enough trigger an episode. In addition to a lot of noise, it also propels the child to offer blocked resistance to the parent, sitting squarely on the ground or simply running away in the opposite direction. As they age, children become wiser and know exactly how to play the weaker parent. Common and normal.


It's also not out of the ordinary to see a child who looks different from her parents or siblings. It's called the 'gene pool'.


No wonder these children hold the gaze of their intrepid 'spotters' and look frightened and shy. YOU'RE A STRANGER - in the eyes of that child, the spotter is a complete and utter weirdo of the scariest realm and will freak the child out completely. These children might not be the jolliest of children, but at least they were in the presence of their (different looking) parents and family. Not something that happened very often in Praia de Luz.


I think that many of the above quotes could actually apply to Madeleine on that holiday in Praia de Luz. Left in the creche all day, where the carers said she was a quiet, shy little soul. And left night after night, alone in the apartment with her younger twin siblings. On one reported occasion, crying for well over an hour.


And I wonder what a spotter's view of Madeleline would be in the presence of her parents on that holiday. If they were lucky enough to be spotted together, that is. Shy or lonely? Agitated and sobbing? Or just a normal airy fairy little girl, in a world of her own?

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Comment on Daily Mail story.............



That must be the most novel way to execute and escape with possibly the most publicized and notorious kidnap of modern times: go to a holiday campsite and stay there with other campers for a week or so. Ingenious. My hopes and prayers are with Madeleine.

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