Re: Latest from PeterMac's FREE e-book: CHAPTER 63 SMITH-GERRY-MAN SCRUTINISED

by **AnneCGuedes** 17.09.24 22:41

Logically, if G's times were right, either Matthew should have left with K or she would have offered to listen at his window.

by **crusader** 17.09.24 22:44

[size=30]Urged, he states that the individual did not appear to be a tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception given the individual's clothing.[/size]

[size=30]Gerry McCann was a tourist.[/size]

by **sharonl** 17.09.24 22:47

AnneCGuedes wrote:Why did G increasingly delay the time of the alleged discovery ?

At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

Half an hour later, without anything to report, it being 22h03 (sic), he turned to alert Kate that it was time for her to go to see the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

Gerry got side tracked by Jez Wilkins which would have thrown out the timeline a bit.

"he turned to alert Kate that it was time for her to go to see the children". Sounds like a cue in a play, reminding her that she was due on stage.

If Gerry was alerting Kate at 22.00, who was it that the Smiths allegedly spotted at the same time?

by **AnneCGuedes** 17.09.24 22:49

Tourists here are easily recognisable by their shorts and sandals at all hours, in museums or on the beach.

by **AnneCGuedes** 17.09.24 22:51

sharonl wrote:

If Gerry was alerting Kate at 22.00, who was it that the Smiths allegedly spotted at the same time?

Change the time, not the man !

by Honesty 18.09.24 7:21

Could you explain further please, Anne?

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 7:49

Buzz Shine wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:Why did G increasingly delay the time of the alleged discovery ?

At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

Half an hour later, without anything to report, it being 22h03 (sic), he turned to alert Kate that it was time for her to go to see the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm
"He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut. He did not see his shoes"

What's photographed on top of Gerry's bed? A pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut.

The last thing he should have been wearing before going to dinner was a pair of shorts to play tennis in, not a pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers.

The shape of the beige bundle on the bed doesn’t look like beige trousers to me, they look more like the beige zipper hooded jacket that we seen KM wearing frequently

by **Bluebagthepirate** 18.09.24 7:51

Honesty wrote:Could you explain further please, Anne?

Please read Peter's chapter.

It's all explained.

Smith is wrong about his time by at least 30 minutes.

Which makes the smithman is gerry theory even more ridiculous.

by **AnneCGuedes** 18.09.24 10:17

Honesty wrote:Could you explain further please, Anne?

What point would you like to be explained further, Honesty ? Have you read the PJ references I sent ?

by **PeterMac** 18.09.24 10:37

There is a long stitherum on FB claiming that the till receipt for Kelly's timed at 21.47 was their last one and therefore they are at Smithman Point at 2155- 2200

Since the undisputed and NAMED credit card payment at Dolphins is 21.27:40 that gives them about ten minutes to get there, order and have a "FEW DRINKS" and then leave.

I haven't bothered replying !

by Honesty 18.09.24 10:44

Thank you for this. I'll go over everything but, due to commitments, not until this evening, unfortunately. I'm a bit overstretched at the moment.

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 11:03

PeterMac wrote:There is a long stitherum on FB claiming that the till receipt for Kelly's timed at 21.47 was their last one and therefore they are at Smithman Point at 2155- 2200

Since the undisputed and NAMED credit card payment at Dolphins is 21.27:40 that gives them about ten minutes to get there, order and have a "FEW DRINKS" and then leave.

I haven't bothered replying !

A few drinks doesn't necessarily mean it was a few drinks each. Nor does it mean it wasn't. What it was is anyone's guess.

by **Jill Havern** 18.09.24 11:04

pinkgladioli wrote:
Buzz Shine wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:Why did G increasingly delay the time of the alleged discovery ?

At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

Half an hour later, without anything to report, it being 22h03 (sic), he turned to alert Kate that it was time for her to go to see the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm
"He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut. He did not see his shoes"

What's photographed on top of Gerry's bed? A pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut.

The last thing he should have been wearing before going to dinner was a pair of shorts to play tennis in, not a pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers.
The shape of the beige bundle on the bed doesn’t look like beige trousers to me, they look more like the beige zipper hooded jacket that we seen KM wearing frequently

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by **Nina** 18.09.24 11:08

pinkgladioli wrote:
Buzz Shine wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:Why did G increasingly delay the time of the alleged discovery ?

At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

Half an hour later, without anything to report, it being 22h03 (sic), he turned to alert Kate that it was time for her to go to see the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm
"He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut. He did not see his shoes"

What's photographed on top of Gerry's bed? A pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut.

The last thing he should have been wearing before going to dinner was a pair of shorts to play tennis in, not a pair of cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers.
The shape of the beige bundle on the bed doesn’t look like beige trousers to me, they look more like the beige zipper hooded jacket that we seen KM wearing frequently

I have to agree. I see a garment with a cuffed sleeve rather than a garment with wide legs. Trying to post the picture from the PJ files but failing miserably.

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 11:12

Nina wrote:I have to agree. I see a garment with a cuffed sleeve rather than a garment with wide legs. Trying to post the picture from the PJ files but failing miserably.

I see two garments, not one. With a beige pair of trousers being on top of something else but I'm not suggesting there is anything definitive about my eyesight. Gerry being Smithman or Gerry not being Smithman isn't contingent on the trousers but if it is a pair of beige trousers, it's always that little something else to consider.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_22.jpg

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 11:21

Dianne Webster made a point in one of her statements mentioning that she loaned Kate a dark coloured cardigan to wear (it may have been black I’d need to read it again) the way it was mentioned gave me the impression it was used for night time attire

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 11:35

Buzz Shine wrote:
Nina wrote:I have to agree. I see a garment with a cuffed sleeve rather than a garment with wide legs. Trying to post the picture from the PJ files but failing miserably.
I see two garments, not one. With a beige pair of trousers being on top of something else but I'm not suggesting there is anything definitive about my eyesight. Gerry being Smithman or Gerry not being Smithman isn't contingent on the trousers but if it is a pair of beige trousers, it's always that little something else to consider.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_22.jpg

Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 11:39

pinkgladioli wrote:Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me

I think it's definitely safe to say there are two garments there though, rather than just the one. I still think the garment on top has two legs, but my wild guesswork, isn't any better than anyone else's.

by **Bluebagthepirate** 18.09.24 11:42

PeterMac wrote:There is a long stitherum on FB claiming that the till receipt for Kelly's timed at 21.47 was their last one and therefore they are at Smithman Point at 2155- 2200

Since the undisputed and NAMED credit card payment at Dolphins is 21.27:40 that gives them about ten minutes to get there, order and have a "FEW DRINKS" and then leave.

I haven't bothered replying !

Even if that is their bar bill, it may have been when they ordered at the bar.

So 21.47 is when they started drinking that round of drinks - at restaurants you pay when you finish, at bars you pay before consuming (for obvious reasons).

by **Bluebagthepirate** 18.09.24 11:51

Buzz Shine wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me
I think it's definitely safe to say there are two garments there though, rather than just the one. I still think the garment on top has two legs, but my wild guesswork, isn't any better than anyone else's.

But it doesn't matter, because Smithman isn't Gerry for all the reasons people have been telling you for days.

Number one reason being the timing of the Smith sighting.

Anyway, were his trousers now part of his cunning disguise?

"Oh crap... someone saw my buttons in the half-light (but not my face, but yes they did months later) better change me kegs... loads of time... no one in 5A... oh wait... it's bedlam..."

I wonder what goes through peoples heads sometimes.

All this because Bernt doesn't believe in Smithman and a chipping away at his credibility.

It's not working.

What are they saying on the other forum?

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 12:29

Buzz Shine wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me
I think it's definitely safe to say there are two garments there though, rather than just the one. I still think the garment on top has two legs, but my wild guesswork, isn't any better than anyone else's.

Don’t think guess work comes into its the zipper cardigan that KM wore
Anyway what’s your thoughts on the Last Photo Buzz Shine?

by **Silentscope** 18.09.24 13:59

@Bluebagthepirate wrote:
Anyway, were his trousers now part of his cunning disguise?

If the McCanns were so well informed, as proved by the open Boot of the Hire Car scenario.

Could they have found such a pair of Trousers AFTER AOIFE made her Statement? The Buttoned Trousers Gerry was wearing look very New.
Was he showing People what they wanted to see?

Note how many times the 'Subliminal Message' of Tannermans Clothing turn up.

Gerry wearing a Black Jacket with Grey trousers and Classic shoes on the TikToc GMTV video.
Reporter Martin Fricker pictured in PDL wearing the same.
The Krokowski setup.

All McCann inventions to keep the 'Abductor' Story alive.

by **AnneCGuedes** 18.09.24 14:20

Buzz Shine wrote:A few drinks doesn't necessarily mean it was a few drinks each. Nor does it mean it wasn't. What it was is anyone's guess.

3 little children and 2 young teenagers among the 9 of them.

by **AnneCGuedes** 18.09.24 14:25

Silentscope wrote:
Could they have found such a pair of Trousers AFTER AOIFE made her Statement? The Buttoned Trousers Gerry was wearing look very New.

I made a research in 2008 about pants with fancy buttons, I couldn't find any (on the web)

by **AnneCGuedes** 18.09.24 14:43

Jill Havern wrote:
The shape of the beige bundle on the bed doesn’t look like beige trousers to me, they look more like the beige zipper hooded jacket that we seen KM wearing frequently

It looks more like a fleece jacket than cotton pants.

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 14:46

pinkgladioli wrote:
Buzz Shine wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me
I think it's definitely safe to say there are two garments there though, rather than just the one. I still think the garment on top has two legs, but my wild guesswork, isn't any better than anyone else's.
Don’t think guess work comes into its the zipper cardigan that KM wore
Anyway what’s your thoughts on the Last Photo Buzz Shine?

It’s not just me who recognises there are two garments there though. I’ve never really placed much importance on the last photo what are your thoughts on it?.

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 15:02

Hi SilentScope
Is it the TikTok video from yesterday that was posted your referring to? If so it was a BBC Breakfast interview and yes I thought the same thing as well and also in other interview’s I’ve seen clips of,
I get the impression he could be capable of dressing in similar attire even if it was to get a kick out of it just for a reaction

Do you mean Martin Frizell of GMTV the one that let Jill Renwick the McCann’s friend from Glasgow who he let go live on air to discuss the alleged abduction?
Just to say he is married to Fiona Phillip’s it was reported that Gordon Brown offered her some job after he came to power
Any way I reckon there is a very good chance that the McCanns knew Frizell from Glasgow days gone by, Kate Garraway who was a presenter for GMTV was sent out to PDL, she is Derek Draper’s widow he was some sort of Labour spin Dr I think at the time, not to mention the odious Lorraine
Of GMTV the despicable duo appeared on her show plenty of times, the relation of Gerry’s that worked for the Sun married a lady who had previously worked for News International the bought a very nice gaff in Kilwinning Ayrshire I think it’s called Kennox House purchased around 2017 I think there was some sort of charity event because Lorraine of GMTV donated something to it

by pinkgladioli 18.09.24 15:09

Buzz Shine wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:
Buzz Shine wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Deffo looks like it’s KM’s beige zipper on top of what looks like a darker beige T-shirt underneath to me
I think it's definitely safe to say there are two garments there though, rather than just the one. I still think the garment on top has two legs, but my wild guesswork, isn't any better than anyone else's.
Don’t think guess work comes into its the zipper cardigan that KM wore
Anyway what’s your thoughts on the Last Photo Buzz Shine?
It’s not just me who recognises there are two garments there though. I’ve never really placed much importance on the last photo what are your thoughts on it?.

There are a few chapters of PeterMacs fab book that would be a great place for you to become acquainted with since I asked first would love to know your thoughts

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 16:50

pinkgladioli wrote:Don’t think guess work comes into its the zipper cardigan that KM wore
Anyway what’s your thoughts on the Last Photo Buzz Shine?

There is a significant difference between what we think and what we know though. Pinkgladioli thinks there are two garments there as well, it's not just me who thinks it. I think I can see two legs on the garment that is sitting on top. To think is to guess, just the same as to not think is to guess.

I don't think anything about the last photo, even if they have changed the date, all that would prove is they wanted to make people believe Madeleine was still alive on the Thursday. But how do you prove they altered the date? Thinking they did may satisfy you, but it doesn't satisfy me. I think people waste way too much time on what did happen, and forget all about proving what didn't happen. From a prosecutor's point of view, they only have to prove what didn't happen, to nail them.

by Buzz Shine 18.09.24 17:08

pinkgladioli wrote:
There are a few chapters of PeterMacs fab book that would be a great place for you to become acquainted with since I asked first would love to know your thoughts

Amaral's book is more than enough fab books for me. That's the only theory that went to court and won. There are a few chapters in the Supreme Court's ruling I am more interested in. Nothing beats some good old fashioned, legally established facts.

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