Was the missing Madeleine McCann in Mallorca after all?

by Silentscope 14.04.24 14:13

Not sure where to post this.

The Mallorca Magazine reports that their sister Paper recieved an Email from Brits claiming to have seen Maddie in Cala D'Or in 2008.

Like the Morocco sighting, the information came from Sources 'close to' ROTHLEY!

Jason Moore, Javier Jiménez, Alicia Mateos und MM-Redaktion Mallorca 26.02.23 14:20

In the case of the missing Madeleine “Maddie” McCann, a witness statement once again focuses on Mallorca.

Yesterday, Saturday, an email was received by the editorial team of MM’s sister newspaper “Mallorca Daily Bulletin”. It was sent by a British family who believe they saw the girl on the beach at Cala d'Or in 2008. Three-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007. She was presumably kidnapped.

A year after Maddie's disappearance, in 2008, a British vacationing couple reported to the police and said they had seen the girl on a beach near Cala d'Or. It was accompanied by two women. Striking: The child was very pale, but the two women had a dark complexion. But neither the Mallorcan nor the British police were ever able to locate the girl from the beach and her two companions.

The email that has now been sent to the “Mallorca Daily Bulletin” seems to confirm this statement. “We were in Mallorca with the family in 2008 because I turned 50,” the letter says. “It was my mother's last visit to Cala d'Or because she was almost 80 years old. One of the things that struck me most was that she told us that she had seen Madeleine on the beach at Cala Gran on two occasions during our stay, sitting in a stroller and wearing what looked like a wig.

The email's senders, who "live in Leicestershire, near the village where Madeleine comes from," continue: "We dismissed the comment at the time, but now we wonder whether it is true.

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One must ask how many other 'Sightings' were made by people who just happen to live close by to Rothley?

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No mention of what the Mother claimed to have seen.

by Silentscope 14.04.24 17:04

From a seperate Report in the same Newspaper.

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"Sadly my mother passed away last year at the age of 94 years and she always maintained she had seen her in Cala d’Or and she followed the investigation into Madeleine as we live in Leicestershire close to the village where Madeleine was from.

Before my mother’s passing I had to assist her with a medical check at one of the Leicester hospitals where Madeleine’s mother was a doctor. After the check my mother said to Mrs McCann that she knew she had lost somebody as she could see it in her face and and she remarked that she felt the same as I had lost a sister (my mother’s daughter). Mrs McCann thanked my mother for her compassion," the email said.

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Dr K McCann was obviously known to the Informant, but since when?

by Cake Lover 14.04.24 21:24

It's vanishingly unlikely, isn't it? Kate McCann obviously didn't make much of it, which should have been surprising.

by sandancer 14.04.24 22:08

Of course that's what an abductor would do , take the most well known missing child to a beach in full public view ! bignono

by Cake Lover 14.04.24 22:13

Quite, and of all the parents of 'missing' children to innocently tell of a sighting, it was the least innocent mother the poor woman said it to.

by Silentscope 15.04.24 7:50

Without knowing the identity of the ‘highly Religious’ and possibly long time Patient, it seems impossible to check if she was a Member of Kate McCanns Church congregation or how long she had been under her care.

There might well be an earlier Connection with the McCanns.

As well as a McCann Villa connection to Cala D’Or on Mallorca?

by Silentscope 15.04.24 10:50

Mrs Renwick remembers sitting by the pool with Mrs McCann during a holiday in Majorca six or seven years ago and lamenting their mutual inability to have children. In late 2002, however, Mrs McCann finally became pregnant with Madeleine through IVF, and in 2004 became pregnant again with twins. The McCanns spent that year in Amsterdam, where he was working on new heart-imaging techniques. Back in England the family moved into a large house in an upmarket development in Rothley, a straggling village a few miles north of Leicester where William Wilberforce once plotted his antislavery campaign in the local manor and, much later, Mike Gatting forfeited the England cricket captaincy by taking a barmaid to his hotel room in the same manor house.

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Six or Seven years ago, before Madeleine was concieved (2000-2001) the McCanns were on Mallorca before?

by Silentscope 20.04.24 10:33

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Madeleine apparently on Mallorca in September 2005 as was reported by the Gaspar family to Leicestershire Constabulary.

The Photo allegedly was ‘taken by a friend’.

But in 17 years of ‘Investigation’ no-one, not even the McCanns, Payne, or Gold families have ever been asked about what they saw at the Dinner table that day.

The location or timing of this particular Photograph has never been established. No Geolocation or EXIF data seems to be available.

Does anyone even know where it really is?
Is it even Madeleine?

by Silentscope 02.06.24 11:52

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Arul Savio Gaspar (right)

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Chapter 9: MAJORCA, SEPTEMBER 2005

…S.G. got to know Madeleine’s mother at university in Dundee, between 1987 and 1992. K.G. met Gerry McCann for the first time at his wedding to Kate in 1998. They become good friends, see each other regularly, spend weekends together and phone each other often.
After dinner on the third or fourth evening in Majorca, the friends are all settled on the patio. They are having a drink and chatting when K.G. witnesses a scene which flabbergasts her and makes her fear for the safety of her daughter and the other children. She is sitting between Gerry McCann and David Payne when she hears the latter ask if she – probably Madeleine – did “that”: he then puts a finger in his mouth and begins sucking it while putting it in and out – the sexual connotation is obvious – while with the other hand, he traces small small circles around his nipple in an explicitly provocative way…
This witness statement from the couple, S.G. and K.G., is taken by the English police on May 16th, thirteen days after Madeleine’s disappearance. That information, very important for the progress of the investigation, was never sent to the Portuguese police. When the Portuguese investigators learn about similar events that allegedly took place during a holiday in Greece – without, however, obtaining reliable witness statements -, they tell the English police, who, even at this point, refrain from revealing what they know on the subject.
It will only be after my removal from the investigation, in October 2007, that this statement will finally be sent to the Portuguese police. Why did the British keep it secret for more than six months? It is all the more surprising that David Payne, who had planned the trip to Majorca – of whom it was known that his behaviour towards the children was, to say the least, questionable -, is the same person who organised the holiday in Portugal, that he is one of those closest to Madeleine and that he is the first friend of the family to have been seen with Kate McCann just after the disappearance (we will talk further about this). He was still present in Vila da Luz when the English police received that witness statement: why wasn’t he interviewed immediately? Without doubt, the Portuguese police could have made progress with the investigation thanks to that lead: such behaviour would merit close attention. Were we looking in the right direction? Might we have established a link with the events of May 3rd? It is difficult to seriously doubt these witnesses.

by **Jill Havern** 02.06.24 11:55

The link you gave no longer works.

It does on my blog however nails

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by Honesty 02.06.24 12:06

What bas****s (McCann and Payne).

by Silentscope 02.06.24 13:45

Dr Payne was being blamed by Kate the next day for Madeleine’s disappearance as she told a Social Worker that she could not understand why a couple had abducted her child.

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It is not unlikely that she later enlisted the Gaspar family to drive home her Suspicions to the PJ.

Dr Amaral should seriously doubt their version of events.

Just on the basis that Payne was not the last person to see Madeleine alive.

Gerry was.

by Honesty 02.06.24 19:10

Thank you, Silentscope. I've gone through the statements and other information. I will go through it all again but I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that it's a bit over my head and that my knowledge of the case is very lacking compared to everyone else on this Forum!

by Silentscope 02.06.24 20:33

If it was easy, someone would have figured it all out long ago.

Please, stay and take your Time, there is no need to Digest it all at once!

by Honesty 02.06.24 23:25

Thank you, Silentscope. That's much appreciated.

by Silentscope 20.06.24 18:45

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Any independant Witnesses to the McCanns, Paynes, Gaspars and Golds being in 'Villa Margarita' on Mallorca or somewhere in Portugal in the first two Weeks of AUGUST 2005.

Gibt es unabhängige Zeugen dafür, dass die McCanns, Paynes, Gaspars und Golds in den ersten beiden Augustwochen 2005 in der "Villa Margarita" auf Mallorca oder irgendwo in Portugal waren?

Algún testigo independiente de que los McCann, los Payne, los Gaspar y los Gold estuvieran en "Villa Margarita" en Mallorca o en algún lugar de Portugal en las dos primeras semanas de AGOSTO de 2005.

by Silentscope 04.07.24 7:36

Where did the McCann's group go when they disembarked the Iberia MD 80 Flight in Faro?

They boarded a Shuttle Bus and were taken on to either a connecting Flight or the Airport Terminal. They did not transfer onto the connecting Flight to Tenerife.

Did they fly on to San Sont Juan / Palma da Mallorca or remain in Portugal?

by Silentscope 01.08.24 13:25

Whatever Holiday mentioned above was, the Twins were not going on it.

They were handed to the Grandparents in Schiphol, who took them away to a different Airside departure Gate, where they most likely returned to the UK with them.