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Post by Silentscope 07.04.24 8:14

Tomar is also famous for its connection with the Knights Templar.
Just like Rothley.

Tomar:
https://www.visitportugal.com/en/node/73772
Rothley:
https://www.rothleyparishcouncil.org.uk/rothley-temple-and-the-chapel-of
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Post by sharonl 09.04.24 19:29

I am not where this comes from and I haven't seen it before


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Post by Cake Lover 09.04.24 19:47

That is quite a find.
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Post by sharonl 09.04.24 19:51

Just popped up on Twitter. Any idea where it is from?
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Post by Silentscope 09.04.24 19:55

A Car that looks like a Mercedes.
Not a Van.
Previous reports spoke of a Mercedes 250D.
Here is what one looks like.


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Is this above Text from 'No more Lies' by G. Amaral?
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Post by crusader 09.04.24 20:03

One of his ex girlfriend's said when she was with him he had a large mustard coloured car.
She didn't know the make.
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Post by Silentscope 09.04.24 20:35

If the girfriend did not recognise a Mercedes she did not know much about Cars.

Or maybe the 3 pointed Star on the Grill had been ripped off?

A Mustard or Yellow colour Mercedes could point to the Vehicle having been a German Taxi?

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Post by crusader 09.04.24 20:59

I'll see if I can find who it was.
Ok, all I have is, the girlfriend was with Brueckner in 2005, someone told her he still had it in 2007.
It was a dirty yellowy mustard colour and it was long, he didn't have the camper van then she said.
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Post by PeterMac 10.04.24 7:08

It is clearly a screenshot of a book
Which book /
We may be able to do  a "Google Image search" or look for a chunk of the text.
I have cancelled the rest of my morning for other reasons, so will have a go.
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Post by Silentscope 10.04.24 7:32

'The Truth of the Lie' by Goncalo Amaral.
Chapter 28
A Testimony with Motivations.

First Paragraph

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cSWCnOaJGamIHXfE23w_P_UpOmf9mbfJ/view?fbclid=IwAR2o27ucevFkt4qgz2HGv_AvdY0g_K1WLa50HSxjbc9fcZ2I8ST99yPScto
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Post by PeterMac 10.04.24 9:58

Thanks for that. Found it

It is his second book 
"Basta de Mentiras".   "And end to these Lies" "Stop the Lies",  
I have the full pdf, but don't know if I can attach it.
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Post by Jill Havern 11.04.24 11:04

MONSTER’S SMILE 
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner grins in chilling pic with two women he lured back to his squalid lair

The witness said she and her friend armed themselves with kitchen knives as they feared what Brueckner would do
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Published: 10:14, 11 Apr 2024Updated: 10:14, 11 Apr 2024
MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian Brueckner grinned as he posed with two women he lured to stay at his filthy cottage.
One of the holidaymakers admitted in court yesterday she feared he might rape her at his remote lair in Portugal.

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Christian Brueckner grinned as he posed with two women he took to stay at his cottage in 2003Credit: Bild
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Brueckner pictured in court in Braunschweig, Germany, on April 5Credit: Dan Charity
Andrea Barth, 49, told the trial in Braunschweig, Germany, how in 2003, at the age of 28, she went with her friend Yvonna Baumann to stay with Brueckner at his home.
She said Brueckner picked them up in an "incredibly dirty" car from the airport.
He warned the pair to stay out of his bedroom, before heading into the town, Barth said.
She told the court the cottage was covered in dirt, with a video camera and cassettes strewn across the floor.
After spending hours attempting to clear just a fraction of the squalor inside, she said she started to panic about what he might later do to her and her friend when he returned. 
She said: “I hadn’t found out who he was etc, and then I started to say - something isn’t right here.
“There are no neighbours, no streets nearby, And I was afraid because I was not sure if he was then coming back with some men and that we would then be classic rape victims.”
Barth said she and Baumann armed themselves with kitchen knives before Brueckner returned drunk and went to sleep.
When he awoke early the next morning, they demanded he drop them in the city so they could stay at a hotel, Barth told the court.
Brueckner, already serving seven years for a 2019 conviction for rape, is on trial for a string of rape and indecent exposure claims.
On Wednesday, the court also heard how Brueckner was part of a paedophile ring that terrified his friends.
Nadia P, who used to live in Praia da Luz, said she heard about vile rape videos uncovered by Brueckner's former pals at his house.
She told the court that Maddie witness Helge B told her about the tapes and a "video mafia" he thought was after him.
He claimed one tape showed Brueckner wearing a mask as he raped an elderly lady and a girl as young as 13.
Nadia P revealed Helge B fled Portugal after finding the footage as he was afraid a "video mafia" Brueckner was part of would come after him.

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Brueckner, pictured arriving at court, is on trial over a series of rape and indecent exposure claimsCredit: Dan Charity


The witness said: "Helge Busching was afraid.

"He said he had to flee the country because he knew as soon as Brueckner came out of prison that he would know that he had broken into his house.

"Helge Busching was afraid because he thought that there was a video mafia and a porno mafia. That was his fear."

Nadia P said when she became aware Brueckner had been linked to the Madeleine McCann case, she contacted the German FBI to reveal what she knew.

The three-year-old vanished on May 3, 2007, after her parents left her and her siblings sleeping in their apartment while they dined at a nearby tapas bar in Praia da Luz.

A former friend of Brueckner's claimed he stole the toddler to sell her to a paedophile network, a witness has claimed.

Brueckner has denied all claims against him.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27247382/madeleine-mccann-christian-brueckner-chilling-pic/
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Post by Silentscope 11.04.24 11:41

The original Report only speaks of the House being so dirty that the Girls wanted to leave. The report speaks of the Finca in PDL but shows the interior of his other property the old Schoolhouse.

The Judge reminded the Women that they never mentioned any fear of being held captive or raping in their original Statements to the BKA.


Personally, I doubt if they even knew Helge B at that time. 

Source: https://www.derwelt.at/total-vermuellt-zeugin-besuchte-maddie-verdaechtigen-in-seiner-finca-regional/
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Post by Silentscope 11.04.24 11:48

The witness said: "Helge Busching was afraid.

"He said he had to flee the country because he knew as soon as Brueckner came out of prison that he would know that he had broken into his house."


So how did the Girls stay with CB if he was in Jail???

If Helge B ran away - why did he later sell CB Drugs in Orgiva???
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Post by Silentscope 11.04.24 18:07

Prosecution witness Helge B. claims to have seen two of the accused rapes on video cassettes that he claims to have stolen from B.'s house. He also testified in court that he had shown the recordings to several people. In addition to another witness, who has also already been heard in court, he claims to have shown the recordings to a bar owner in Portugal. 

Christian B.'s defense lawyer announced that this woman would vehemently contradict this in court. She had already done so in a television interview. In addition, the lawyer wants to question a former investigator in Braunschweig who denies ever having been contacted by the prosecution witness.

In the Braunschweig trial, 47-year-old Christian B. is accused of three rapes and two cases of sexual abuse of children in Portugal. The trial is being followed by the international media because the sex offender, who has several previous convictions, is suspected of murder in the case of three-year-old Madeleine McCann, who disappeared from a Portuguese vacation resort in 2007. However, the Maddie case is not the subject of the current trial. The presumption of innocence applies. The trial will continue on Friday, April 12. (dpa)

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Source: https://www.news38.de/braunschweig/article300346165/braunschweig-maddie-mccann-christian-brueckner-prozess-helge-news.html
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Post by Cake Lover 11.04.24 18:23

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Post by sharonl 11.04.24 21:26

EXCLUSIVE: FATHER OF CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER’S EX-GIRLFRIEND FEARS MADELEINE MCCANN COULD BE BURIED AT HIS DAUGHTER’S FORMER HOME IN PORTUGAL – AS HE PLEADS WITH POLICE TO DIG UP THE GARDEN

THE father of the ex-girlfriend of Madeleine Mccann suspect Christian Brueckner has pleaded with police to search her former home in Portugal.

Dieter F, a hospital minibus driver, has twice given evidence to German detectives in the case of the missing British toddler.

And he believes remains of Madeleine may be found in the garden of the former rented home of his daughter on the Algarve, first tracked down by the Olive Press.

He revealed she and ex-boyfriend Brueckner – who is currently on trial for five sex offences in Portugal – kept a compound with dogs behind the large detached villa in Foral.

And Dieter was told by Brueckner he had a hiding place in his winnebago large enough to ‘hide a small child’.

He believes the paedophile snatched the three-year-old toddler and brought her to the five-bed detached villa, 45 mins inland from Praia da Luz.

His daughter has already admitted he was at her home that night and he ‘arrived late’ en route from Tomar, in north Portugal, but left early the following morning.

“I’ve twice told the BKA police they must dig up the garden and home,” Dieter told the Olive Press.

“Unfortunately, I think she is responsible and getting easy money is everything to her.”

His daughter, a mother-of-three, based in Schweinfurt, has been interviewed four times by police over Brueckner’s movements at the time.

And her name has come up twice so far in the sex offenders current trial in Braunschweig over three rapes and two child abuse offences committed between 2000 and 2017.

Last week, key witness Helge Busching said he believed one of the girl’s allegedly raped by Brueckner was being ‘looked after’ by her.

The former pal of Brueckner named her during his testimony to Judge Dr Engemann.

It has already emerged that two other former orphans were treated badly under her care.

One, Tomás, revealed her cruelty in a TV documentary and another, Lena W, ran away and came back pregnant.

The Olive Press revealed in 2020 how the missing German teenager had sparked a police manhunt on the Algarve before turning up an alarming 12 days later.

She told police she had ‘voluntarily’ stayed with a ‘pair of Russians’ but a later social services investigation slammed her treatment and revealed she had been pregnant.

We discovered that Dieter’s daughter had stepped in representing an agency that brought troubled German teenagers to Portugal, insisting she was fine.

When we tracked Lena down to her current home in Germany, the mother-of-four declined to comment.

However, Dieter and wife Corinne, revealed they are ‘convinced’ she is involved in the Maddie case.

When they tried to contact her over it, they claim she got ‘very angry’ and clammed up.

“In fact she broke off all contact as soon as we asked her about Christian,” Dieter told the Olive Press last month.

“If you refuse to explain yourself and don’t say anything, it is deeply suspicious.

“To think that when I first met Christian in Portugal he had been babysitting my five year old granddaughter!

“My daughter picked me up from the airport and when we arrived at the house in Foral he was sitting on the lawn playing with her.

“And now I know he was prosecuted for abusing someone else’s five year old it makes me sick to the core.”

He continued that the last time he saw her was at a supermarket and she ‘ran away’.

“But not before we could accuse her of being involved in the Maddie case.

“She looked horrified and said we were ‘putting her children’s lives in danger’ whatever that means.”

Meanwhile, the owner of the home, Villa Bianca, Lia Silva welcomes the police coming to search there.

She told the Olive Press last year: “I’ve always said it’s important to try and solve this case once and for all and if that means bringing in diggers fair enough,” she said.

She added that her former tenant and her ‘various boyfriends’ were nothing but ‘trouble’.

She claimed she left owing a lot of money in rent and the place was left in a ‘total mess’.

A BKA source told the Olive Press this week they ‘still hope to undertake more searches soon’ in Portugal and this ‘could include Foral’.

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We gave the info from Dieter to the Portuguese police but I don’t know if they are going to do anything.

“We can only ask them. If they want to do it they do it, if they don’t, they don’t. We can’t go on our own.”

He added: “I can’t confirm how many times we have spoken to this lady but it is various times.

“She is a witness in the Maddie case but I can’t say how important.”

The trial of Christian Brueckner is continuing this week.

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/04/11/exclusive-father-of-christian-brueckners-ex-girlfriend-fears-madeleine-mccann-could-be-buried-at-his-daughters-former-home-in-portugal-as-he-pleads-with-police-to-dig-up-the-garden/
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The Image of Brückner and the two Girls has been altered by 12%
Check the shadows under the Girls chins, and how they overlap his shirt.

Looks like Computer Generated or Modified image.

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Post by sharonl 11.04.24 23:30

We cannot see their faces but would two girls who had been lured back to to lair against their will really be posing for a photograph inn that way? Does this really look like a picture of two girls who don't want to be there?
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The Images of “Anastasia Meckesy” are 80% probably AI Generated.
Which probably explains why she cannot be found in the real world.
Anastasia was Brückners Sex Slave according to the Sun.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/5188712/madeleine-mccann-suspect-knows-what-happened-ex/

Source: https://isitai.com/ai-image-detector/
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Post by crusader 12.04.24 7:34

They can't have been lured back to Brueckner's place against their will, Andrea Barth said he picked them up at the airport.
So, if true they must have known him.
He took them back to his filthy cottage and they spent hours cleaning it up while he went out and got drunk  confused
Did he lock them in his filthy cottage, why would you leave 2 strangers in your home telling them not to go into the bedroom?

Apart from that, I'm convinced Nicole Fehlinger is Brueckner's partner in crime, she needs a close looking at.
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Post by Silentscope 12.04.24 7:57

Her girlfriend met the accused during further training, according to the witness. When he emigrated to Portugal, they wanted to visit him in his finca and spend the holiday there.

Source: https://www.derwelt.at/total-vermuellt-zeugin-besuchte-maddie-verdaechtigen-in-seiner-finca-regional/

It sounds like it was the Yvonne B who met CB during a Training or further Education course (Arbeitsamt? Job Centre?)
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Post by crusader 12.04.24 8:17

I'm convinced Brueckner is the man Tasmin Sillence saw near 5a on 30th April and 2nd May 2007.
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Post by Silentscope 12.04.24 8:38

He could have been waiting for someone to buy some Cannabis from him?
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Post by Cammerigal 13.04.24 2:12

crusader wrote:I'm convinced Brueckner is the man Tasmin Sillence saw near 5a on 30th April and 2nd May 2007.
Really convinced? Based upon personal witness observation, study of the PJ files or simply trying to reinforce a British media smear - white ant style?
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Post by crusader 13.04.24 7:59

Based on the PJ files and the statement of 12 year old Tasmin Sillence who saw the same man on 2 seperate occasions.
Having seen photo's of Brueckner in sunglasses, and compairing them with Tasmin's police E-FIT in my opinion, it's Brueckner she saw.
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Post by Silentscope 13.04.24 9:43

Shame no one (including CB) seems to know where he was that Week.

Unless he is saving the Information for the end of his Maddie Trial?

The one he will never face, due to lack of evidence.

Despite what the Press say.
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Post by crusader 13.04.24 10:01

If it was Brueckner Tasmin saw, there is zero evidence he took Madeleine.
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Post by Silentscope 13.04.24 10:04

The latest from Braunschweig yesterday.

In his statement lasting several hours in court, Helge B. claimed to have shown one of the videos in Portugal to Barfrau Frances S.. Defender Dr. Friedrich Fülscher (39) now wants to invite this as a witness. After the testimony of the witness in court, the lawyer had contacted the witness by e-mail.

In his request for evidence, Fülscher now quoted from the bartender's answer: "I don't know anyone by the name of Helge B.. It is unthinkable that someone showed me a video of a rape! If someone had done that, I would not only have been outraged, but would have called the police directly."

Ex-policeman Dave Edgar also expressed a similar opinion. He coordinated the investigation into the Maddie case at the end of 2008, and later worked for the parents of the missing child as a private detective. Helge B. claimed that the investigator had already pointed out Christian Brückner in 2008. Edgar denies that. "I am 100 percent sure that I have never spoken to the person you mentioned," the ex-policeman wrote to the lawyer. However, it is conceivable that Helge B. spoke to one of his employees.

In an interview with BILD, the witness had claimed to have called Scotland Yard's Maddie hotline in 2008 and informed of his suspicions. But no one ever got back to me.

In addition, the Defence would like to send another English policeman and a judge of the Braunschweig District Court. The official should provide information about where the witness's caravan stood in which the videos could have been last stored. The judge is to be asked what Helge B. had said in a previous trial about the whereabouts of the videos.

Source: https://www.bild.de/regional/niedersachsen/regional/maddie-detektiv-soll-vor-deutschem-gericht-aussagen-87832676.bild.html

Helge had said he sold his Campervan to this “Cheyenne” guy, the one that sent Martin Brunt away, and threw a knife at MWT.
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Post by Silentscope 15.04.24 10:29

DC Mark Draycott took Helge B's Statement in London.
He will now be asked to give Evidence at Brückner's Trial.

A source close to the legal team said: 'We will be calling the British police from Operation Grange to give evidence – especially those officers that talked to Mr Helge Busching.
'We want to know what he told them exactly and why what he told the court was different. This will be the first time that the court will have a chance to see what exactly is known about Brueckner.
'We have been asking for files on the case for years but have seen nothing - so let's see what they have, they will have to come to court and talk under oath about what they know.'

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13300605/british-cops-investigating-madeeleine-mccann-disappearance-testify-christian-brueckner-sex-trial.html
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