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Post by Silentscope 01.04.24 9:47

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It cannot have been ‘Lina’ tha half German half Russian Girl that ran away from Nicole F’s home. The one found by PI Brückner that he brought back pregnant. The PJ were informed by Nicole that she had run away. There is a Police Report on her.
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Post by Silentscope 01.04.24 10:37

Natasha might find the Report shown at 17:24 on the following Video of use.
https://www.rtp.pt/play/p6596/e479265/sexta-as-9

I think it refers to the 17 year old Victim?
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Post by Silentscope 02.04.24 10:05

As expected, the Sun is now claiming that the runaway child 'Lina' is the one Brückner Kidnapped from the Gypsys and held for 4 Days at his Finca.

Prison cellmate Michael Tatschl, 49, will tell the court Brueckner said the girl was just 13 and had run away from a youth camp.
He claims Brueckner said he held her for four days at his farmhouse in Praia da Luz — the same Algarve resort where Madeleine went missing in May 2007.

Tatschl, an Austrian, lived with him at the farmhouse and they spent eight months in jail together in Portugal for stealing diesel from lorries.
Both were released in December 2006 — just five months before Madeleine vanished.

A source said: “Tatschl will say Brueckner told him he talked the girl into getting into a car with him and kept her four days.
“He will tell the court Brueckner told him he tied the girl to a pole and sexually abused her.”

Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27032039/madeleine-mccann-christian-brueckner-kidnapping-sexual-assault/

Michael T (according to the Sun) will now say that Brueckner abused her and tied her to the Pole. In Court.

Obviousy Perjury is no problem for him.

Because Lina arrived at Foral, at NF's home on March 23rd, 2007.


The Videos were found before this happened!


Idiots!

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Post by Cake Lover 02.04.24 11:15

What on earth is happening here? If this whole mess were the plot of a film it would win 100 Razzies.
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Post by Silentscope 02.04.24 11:24

What is happening is the Sun, Jon Clarke, Rainer Burkard, Rob Pattinson and now Scarlet Howes are trying so hard to make the British public believe that it was Brückner that 'did it' that they are catching themselves in their own LIES.
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Post by crusader 02.04.24 14:52

If they can't be arsed getting their facts correct, they will have no chance fitting CB up for the murder of Madeleine.
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Post by Cake Lover 02.04.24 15:15

It's hard to believe that it's being allowed to continue. Isn't there some authority which can state how misleading, dishonest, and impossible the idea is? It can't keep growing, surely.
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Post by Silentscope 02.04.24 16:59

Like Drugs and Prostitution, so long as there are Customers, the Trade will go on.

And they have no chance in a real Court, so they rely on Trial by Media.
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Post by PeterMac 02.04.24 18:19

Silentscope wrote:As expected, the Sun is now claiming that the runaway child 'Lina' is the one Brückner Kidnapped from the Gypsys and held for 4 Days at his Finca.
IF Brückner HAD kidnapped a gypsy girl and held her for four days and raped her repeatedly whilst she was tied to a pole 

HIS MORTAL REMAINS WOULD NOT YET HAVE BEEN FOUND
There would be no trace of his house or his 'secret compound' and there would be no vehicles,
and NO WITNESSES
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Post by Silentscope 02.04.24 18:27

Na, wenn die Beweise alle vernichted waren ….

Well, when all traces have been Eliminated?
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Post by Cake Lover 02.04.24 18:34

Occam's Razor. It usually works, doesn't it? nod
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Post by Silentscope 04.04.24 15:56

Helge B is now claiming (in the Daily Mail) that he contacted Dave Edgar in 2008.


Not Scotland Yard - Maddie Helpline any more?

Busching also claims to have seen videotapes which allegedly showed Brueckner sexually abusing an elderly woman and a teenage girl in Portgual.
He later told the court he had contacted Dave Edgar in 2008, a former policeman and private detective hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to help find their daughter.
Mr Edgar worked on the case for three years before enquiries were taken over by Scotland Yard and in later interviews, he always said he believed Madeleine's disappearance had been 'intricately planned by a gang of paedophiles'.
Busching did not go into detail regarding a response from Mr Edgar but added he contacted Scotland Yard in 2017, after he had moved Greece where he had been convicted of people trafficking.
He said: 'They came to Athens, they wanted to question me, officially and they registered it with Greek police'.
'With hindsight that was a mistake as the Greek police tipped off the local press and they heard about my meeting in an Athens hotel.
'The British police said they weren't interested in the rapes I had seen, they were with me for three days and then left.'

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13266779/Christian-Brueckner-returns-court-face-former-friend-tell-rape-trial-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-expert-lock-picker-break-property.html

The British Police were not interested in Brückners Rape Videos, but ran straight to the BKA with his Maddie 'she didn't scream' claims?
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Post by crusader 04.04.24 17:11

Why did the British police go to greece to interview Busching if they only wanted to talk about Madeleine?
Busching doesn't know what happened to Madeleine, if he did he would now be a very rich man.
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Post by Silentscope 04.04.24 17:51

Questions:


Diana M was an American Citizen, where were the FBI?

The 17 year old Girl chained to the pole was never able to be identified by the PJ. Her Nationality was never assumed to be British, rather either Portugeuse or German?

It could not have been the Runaway 'Lina' as she never arrived in Portugal until much later. After the Videos were found.

The Athens Hotel was cleared and swept for Eavesdropping Devices before the Interviews took place. Was this to prevent anyone from hearing what Helge B had to say, or what he was being told to say?

Why, after ignoring Helge B since 2008 - were the UK Police suddenly so keen to see him?
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Post by crusader 04.04.24 18:15

That's what I'd like to know.
Why would they go to the trouble of sweeping the hotel, is this true or is it just what Helge B is saying?
It all sounds a bit cloak and dagger to me.
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Post by crusader 04.04.24 18:37

So, the police in Athens arrested him, Busching told them about CB and Madeleine, (probably to make himself important).
Then the Athens police contacted Operation Grange who took over a floor of a hotel and swept it for bugs,
(listening bugs not bed bugs) and questioned him for 3 day's.
Why if he was arrested, did they not question him in police custody?
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Post by Silentscope 04.04.24 19:28

Busching had been Arrested, but had served very little of his Sentence for Human Trafficking before being released.

How he got out so early is a bit of a Mystery.

Either it has to do with a Decree from a Greek Politician to ease overcrowding in Greek Jails, or he got a Concession for his Information.

Herr Fülscher will have more understanding of the situation there as his Mother is Greek, and he grew up in Thessaloniki. He can speak Greek.
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Post by Cammerigal 05.04.24 1:51

I note the continued linkages between British military intelligence MI5 and the German intelligence service the BND with respect to CB. When required, guns, explosives, people and devices are need to moved across borders illicitly. Often, it is via helpful couriers who owe 'favours' to the secret services, with an implicit threat that they will get reported to the police if they fail to co-operate. 

Military Intelligence in the context of the McCann case is an oxymoron, as they continually fail to understand the burden of proof in criminal cases, the inadmissibility of illegally gained information and the need to prove 'beyond reasonable doubt' in a criminal court. "Hey Herr. Busching, please show me the videos, which you claim you once saw, but aren't here before the court" 


Just a question: If we speculate that CB was crossing borders between Germany, Holland Spain and Portugal in his vehicles and possibly carrying say party drugs [E's] to fund his lifestyle, then may he have come to the attention of the German Federal security service [BND] as 'a useful cross border runner' ? 
Did he stop co-operating, leading to him falling foul of them leading to his exposure and the current farcical situation in a court where the 'concrete information' is failing to stick, but there is constant leakage to the press of hearsay and gossip of his involvement in a separate crime of the "abduction of Maddie", as the British attempt to frame him for a crime he cannot have committed, as per the CSI dog and DNA evidence that Maddie's body was moved to her final resting place, the lack of evidence of a break-in and the failure to establish a window of opportunity. We don't know where to, but this form of movement does require people with covert skill sets, vehicles and contacts.
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Post by Silentscope 05.04.24 6:50

His 'Border Hopping' was usualy the Result of impending Charges or Prison.

CB's Politics are unknown, but his lifestyle suggests he would be very Anti - Authourity and unlikely to become part of anything greater than himself.

Wolters has not got the Videos to produce in Court.
The accounts of Manfred and Helge differ as to how and where they viewed them, and what they saw on the Camcorder.
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Post by Cake Lover 05.04.24 22:48

According  to the Daily Mail online, Bruckner is dying of cancer.
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Post by Jill Havern 06.04.24 8:17

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276261/madeleine-mccann-investigation-christian-brueckner-setback-witness-cancer.html

Madeleine McCann investigation into Christian Brueckner could face major setback as it's revealed key witness is dying from cancer
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Post by crusader 06.04.24 8:21

All those concerned in fitting C Brueckner up for the death/kidnapping of Madeleine must be jumping for joy.
I hope it's not true.
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Post by Cake Lover 06.04.24 8:45

The  'mental health issue' hasn't made an appearance in this case yet. How strange.
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Post by crusader 06.04.24 8:48

It will, give it time.  laugh
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Post by Cake Lover 06.04.24 8:58

I wonder who will be the first? There's a huge cast to choose from.
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Post by PeterMac 06.04.24 9:00

WRONG

The report is that Busching has cancer
The 'witness' who claims that Brückner told him that Madeleine did not cry / shout/ make a noise

which in fact anyone who had read the PJ files would be able to say, since there is no evidence that she did.
But lots that she couldn't possibly have done, since she had been dead for three days
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Post by crusader 06.04.24 9:08

Thank goodness for that, thank's PeterMac.
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Post by Silentscope 06.04.24 19:29

Many had been waiting for Helge B.'s testimony in the rape trial against Christian B. The 53-year-old is the main witness - and has on Wednesday (3. April) not only made serious accusations against the defendant and suspects in the Maddie McCann case.

Defender Friedrich Fülscher is also in  focus in the Braunschweig District Court during the trial. Helge B. is even said to have panicked in front of the lawyer.

On the fourth day of the trial, Helge B. not only unpacked about the shock videos that are said to have shown two cruel acts by Christian B. It is also about his life, which has changed drastically due to the statement to the police. Changed to the negative.

The trained roofer lost everything after the chance find - friends, family and the job. His greatest fear has thus come true. "I didn't want to lose all this," as he told the court on Wednesday.

He has changed his place of residence several times. Since he severely burdened Christian B. as the main witness, it has only gone downhill. Stress with neighbours, journalists - and defender Friedrich Fülscher, claims Helge B on Wednesday.

Together with a journalist, Fülscher is said to have travelled to Ancona in Italy to Manfred S. S. had introduced Helge B. and Christian B. to each other in 2006, he also testified against the accused in the current trial (N38 reported).

"They really wanted to get my address out," says Helge B. That's why the two men are said to have tricked Manfred S. Under a pretext, the lawyer and the journalist would have connected S.'s mobile phone to their computer - and thus found out his Facebook password.

They would then have written to Helge B. via Manfred S.'s account and pretended to be him. The witness presents the alleged chat history to the court on Wednesday.

 It then bursts out of Friedrich Fülscher: "How do you get to me?!"

But at some point Helge B. smelled a Rat. He asked Manfred S. to call via video chat. When his supposed buddy reacted hesitantly, everything was clear for Helge B. "I panicked that they showed up with me," he made it clear. Because he has already lost his job because he was besieged. Later, Helge B. is said to have confronted his friend with the accusations, who probably confirmed that Friedrich Fülscher and the journalist were with him before.

I was afraid that they would make me the hell hot. That's why Helge B. "in an eye-catching outfit", as the judge calls it, spoke to Friedrich Fülscher. With this he wanted to deter the two men. "So that they leave me alone in Corsica," Helge B. continued. The defender recorded the conversation.

What is in detail in the chat history is not explained in more detail. But the Chief Prosecutor gives a brief insight: "It gives the impression that they wanted to elicit a statement from you." 

Whether Friedrich Fülscher was really behind it has not been proven. But Helge B. is quite sure. "I didn't expect something like that. That's an insolence."

Source: https://www.news38.de/braunschweig/article300343116/braunschweig-portugal-korsika-italien-facebook-christian-b-fall-maddie-mccann-verdaechtiger-anwalt-prozess-news-b.html

No mention of any Medical problems by the Witness himself on Wednesday?
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Post by Jill Havern 07.04.24 5:33

MADDIE PROBE FAIL Madeleine McCann cops have failed to search property of Christian Brueckner’s former lover


The suspect rang his lover the night Madeleine disappeared, telling her he had been in Tomar — a renowned paedophile hub

Rob Pattinson, Senior District Reporter
Published: 21:35, 6 Apr 2024Updated: 21:35, 6 Apr 2024


MADELEINE McCann cops have still not searched the property of chief suspect Christian Brueckner’s lover.
That is even despite the rapist calling the woman on the night the three-year-old was taken.

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Madeline McCann cops have still not searched the property of chief suspect Christian Brueckner’s loverCredit: Olive Press
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Brueckner rang his ex the night Madeleine disappearedCredit: Dan Charity


The woman’s father and the German prosecutor urged police in 2022 to go to the compound in Portugal to look for potential evidence.
They were told about the site near Farol — less than 30 miles from Praia da Luz where Madeleine was abducted in May 2007 — but failed to act.
It belonged to the ex that Brueckner rang the night Madeleine disappeared, telling her he had been in Tomar — a renowned paedophile hub.
It was also where he regularly parked his camper vans.
His former girlfriend told his trial in Germany that during the call he said he was driving to her home — but she did not know if he arrived.
She said: “I don’t know if he came late that night and parked the vehicle outside and slept in there, and left that morning again.”
Her dad told The Sun on Sunday: “I’ve twice told the German FBI they must dig up the garden and home there.
"Unfortunately, I worry there could be a link.”
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We gave the information about the compound to the Portuguese police but I don’t know if they are going to do anything.
"We can only ask them. We can’t go on our own.”


Play Video

Brueckner's pal admits it was 'biggest failure' of his life not reporting rapist before Madeleine McCann vanished

German investigators believe Brueckner, 47, abducted and murdered Madeleine — although no charges have been filed.
He is on trial for rapes and indecent exposures unrelated to the Madeleine case.
He denies the charges.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27162944/madeline-mccann-search-property-christian-brueckner/
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