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Post by Verdi 05.11.23 18:46

Madeleine McCann detectives 'fear their probe into prime suspect paedophile Christian Brueckner is close to collapsing and have just weeks to save investigation'

Brueckner was named as a suspect in Maddie's disappearance in April 2022
Police probing him reportedly have until the new year to find a new lead


By Dan Woodland

Published: 12:20, 5 November 2023 | Updated: 16:37, 5 November 2023

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann fear that their case against prime suspect Christian Brueckner is 'close to collapsing'.

German police probing convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, who was officially named as a suspect in the three-year-old's disappearance in April 2022, reportedly have until the new year to find a new lead before their investigation falls through.

A source close to the investigation told The Sun: 'The next few weeks are make or break for the detectives investigating Christian B.

'Publicly they are saying they remain convinced he is linked to Maddie's disappearance... but, privately, the case is close to collapsing.'

Brueckner is yet to be formally charged by police but was named as a suspect after his campervan was reportedly spotted near the Praia da Luz resort in Portugal where Maddie vanished from in May 2007.

The police's case is largely centred around his former friend Helge Busching's testimony that Brueckner chillingly told him when they were discussing Madeleine's disappearance that 'she didn't scream'.

The source told The Sun that the case is now in jeopardy as there are 'no new leads' and their primary witness Busching 'has totally gone offside'.

The source said: 'Helge B hasn't been supporting detectives for a long time, and there is a huge black shadow over everything he's told them up until this point.

'The reality is that without a fresh lead or a change in the direction of the investigation the probe into Christian B will be dead in the water by the New Year.

'The clock is ticking and what makes things even harder is the fact that relations between the German cops and Portuguese officers are at an all time low.'

In September it was reported that Busching was 'wobbling' and was on the verge of withdrawing his evidence in the investigation.

Sources claimed German officers were warned of Mr Busching's 'flakiness', with one revealing he had even earned the nickname 'Helge Bulls***ter' amongst Portuguese officers, according to The Sun.

Mr Busching gave Brueckner's name to British police in 2017, around the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

Busching claims that Brueckner told him at a Spanish kite festival in 2008 that he was involved in Madeleine's abduction from Praia da Luz a year earlier.

When asked in 2020 what he thought of Brueckner, Busching said: 'One word. Guilty.'

Busching, who now lives on the French island of Corsica, added: 'He is in the right place at the moment and hopefully he will stay there a long time'.

Convicted rapist and paedophile Brueckner, 46, is currently serving a seven-year jail sentence in Germany for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2005.

According to the Spain-based Olive Press newspaper superman , he is now likely to appear next February at Braunschweig High Court for his involvement in multiple - separate -crimes.

The trial, expected to span over a month, could spell a lifetime behind bars for the German due to the severity of the charges against him.

Christian Brueckner was officially named as a suspect in April 2022 after his yellow and white VW T3 Westfalia campervan was reportedly spotted near the Praia da Luz resort in Portugal where Maddie vanished.

Brueckner has denied he was in the area at the time and distanced himself from the allegations against him.

But German prosecutors say phone logs show he received a call on May 3 2007 near the Ocean Club. Brueckner maintains that he was miles away with a young woman.

Earlier this week it was revealed that Brueckner may have taken photos of Madeleine McCann and buried them in an underground hideaway in the Algarve, near the town of Silves.

Police scoured the location near Silves that Brueckner reportedly called his 'little paradise' in May this year in the hope of finding clues that would bring them closer to finding Madeleine.

A source told The Sun last month: '[Authorities investigating] now know Christian B buried data carriers like hard drives and USB sticks at any of the places where he's stayed so that was their real hope at the lake.'

'They really thought they might find pictures there, but they are not giving up hope. They believe he made duplicates because he loved to keep them like trophies.'

It was the first major operation of its kind since June 2014 when British police were given permission to dig in Praia da Luz using sniffer dogs trained in detecting bodies and ground-penetrating radar.

Portuguese broadcaster SIC reported that German police sought permission to search the dam in an official judicial request to Portugal after concluding it was 'an area of interest'. The prompt for the search was not initially given.

Brueckner remains the sole significant suspect in the case since 2007.

Madeleine's family kept the investigation open with private detectives until Scotland Yard opened its own enquiry in 2011.

Nine years later, police in Braunschweig, northern Germany, identified a convicted paedophile and German national as a new suspect.

In 2021, prosecutors said they were '100% sure' that they had the right man.

German prosecutor Hans Wolters said evidence included phone analysis placing him at the Ocean Club resort the family was staying at when Madeleine went missing and an alleged confession Brueckner made to a friend.

In April, it was reported Christian Brueckner may not face charges in Germany over Madeleine's disappearance after a court ruled prosecutors had no jurisdiction to pursue a case against him, however.

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Post by Verdi 05.11.23 18:50

I'm beginning to think these tabloids use fresher scribblers to report on germanman - do your homework or you'll never progress in the field of journalism.

Just like everything else associated with the name Christian Brueckner, we go through this sort of nonsense bi-annually. How many more times is the case going to be near collapse before relegated to garbage, how many more times is a conviction going to proceed in the new year, how many more variations on a theme?

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Post by Silentscope 06.11.23 8:09

Is there a Guinness book of Records entry for:

Worlds longest running failed Psyop?

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Post by Verdi 08.11.23 15:57

Madeleine McCann latest: Brueckner ‘had fits of uncontrollable rage’ as he ‘beat teenage girlfriend’

By Georgia Pearce

Published: 08/11/2023 - 13:42 Updated: 08/11/2023 - 13:59

A German local revealed he was once threatened by Christian Brueckner with a knife

Christian Brueckner's former friends have spoken out against the German national as part of the latest developments into the case of missing Madeleine McCann.

McCann was just three-years-old when she disappeared from her holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz on the Algrave, Portugal in 2007.

Since 2022, German prosecutors have made 46-year-old Brueckner a prime suspect in the McCann case.

Brueckner is currently serving a seven-year prison term in Germany for trafficking and rape crimes, and has always denied any involvement in Maddie's disappearance.

In a new investigation for Panorama by the BBC, former acquaintances of Brueckner have revealed more about his character.

Speaking to an investigative journalist, bar manager Brigitte Szegedi said she saw him "almost every day".

Szegedi added: "When he was here, he was nice. If you had a beer with him here, you would have said 'Christian, best friend'.

"He has two sides. He had fits of rage with some people. Not with women, but with men. I saw it after he drank a bit too much, but only with men, not with women."

A German local who owned a flat after Brueckner was evicted recalled being confronted by him and a "gang".

He revealed: "He came with a gang demanding his freezer back. He was brandishing a knife in the corridor. He had this long knife and wanted to stab me. He was drunk or on drugs.

"His eyes glistened like mad and he was filled with rage."

When asked by the journalist if he was afraid of Brueckner, he nodded in agreement.

Christine Bruckner was also known to have a teenage girlfriend, when he was in his late 30s.

The German local detailed an interaction with his girlfriend, who admitted she had been assaulted by him.

He said: "I met her at the bus stop and asked her where she had those strangulation marks from, and she told me he strangled her and beat her."

When asked if she was "frightened", the man said: "She was scared stiff of him. She told me a lot of things. She was really scared of him. Look, I'm getting goosebumps."

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Post by Guest 08.11.23 18:59

no you stupid underpaid moron, cb is convicted for rape and hb, i know just one small letter is different, it the one who has a conviction for trafficking. come on know your crooks. been to long on your live on mascara of course. 

hehe look, they even misspelled influencer wrong, what the h..l is that for a kind, journalist? didn't they had these in the stone ages, you know the kind who studied something with reading maps , so they could travel on several different times in the same night to portugal. i cannot remember its name, a bit of an oily guy, never heard he worked for the bbc too. didn't that guy always tells he was the only journalist there and in this case.
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Post by Silentscope 08.11.23 19:14

Brigitte Szegedi first spoke to Sky News back in 2020.

Hardly a revelation.

Copy and Paste, Rinse and Repeat…

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Post by MaxHeadroom 10.11.23 17:40

Yawn, some old acquaintances saying some not-so-nice things about a convicted criminal - how many times have we had that before? Is any of that relevant when it comes to tying him to the Madeleine case? The media are just as desperate as the police to find anything exciting to keep the CB thing alive.
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Post by MaxHeadroom 10.11.23 17:46

Silentscope wrote:Not quite all Max, Fülscher revealed that the Allotment search by the BKA was probably ‘Timed’ as they had known about it for Years before.

I suspect that the search at the wrong Dam was also ‘Timed’.

For effect.
Thanks, that would make sense and put it into perspective. They were probably after CB for years before 2020 for other things, and the searches in the Hanover garden and at the dam were probably planned anyway due to other cases unrelated to the Madeleine case, which of course doesn't stop the media from still believing any of this would have anything to do with Madeleine.
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Post by PeterMac 11.11.23 10:22

Got to share this one from FB What really happened.. .

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Christian Bruckner is GUILTY of taking Madeline
ITS QUITE SIMPLE
and i’ll explain why …

The front door is locked as Kate and Gerry now say
Gerry’s 1st statement saying he entered the LOCKED front door using his Key confirms this
The rear PATIO DOORS which are closed yet UNLOCKED
As Gerry in his 2nd interview a week later now says he ENTERS THROUGH THE OPEN PATIO DOORS
SO
BRUCKNER Either enters with a key through the FRONT DOOR
or
Enters the OPEN rear Patio door
(in between parents' checks )

BRUCKNER then makes his way to the kids bedroom leaving no trace
OPENS the curtains, window and shutter and wakes Madeleine without any noise or trace
Bruckner with Madeleine in arms
1. climbs through the small window
reaches back through and closes the curtain
LEAVING NO TRACE
no footprints in the dirt outside
no furniture moved to help him climb through the window .. nothing
or
2. Bruckner enters through the locked front door with a key (no forced entry )
walks to the kids bedroom opens the curtain the window and shutter not disturbing any of the kids
ONLY KATES finger prints are found on the window which she admits on a tv interview she had never touched or opened all week
Bruckner wakes Madeleine carries her in arms
and leaves back through the front door
before this .. he CLOSES the curtains
leaving the window and shutter open

All this in between the parents and friends checks every 20-30 mins
according to the timeline
a GAP of 1 min 40 seconds window

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WALTER MITTY

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Post by crusader 11.11.23 10:54

IF Brueckner is found to be guilty without a shadow of doubt, there will be a great many profilers and statement analysts who will look pretty foolish.

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Post by PeterMac 12.11.23 8:14

crusader wrote:IF Brueckner is found to be guilty without a shadow of doubt, there will be a great many profilers and statement analysts who will look pretty foolish.
The problem is he has already been found Guilty of another crime which was not in fact committed in the way described.

Without getting too medical, the gynaecologist who examined the old lady made a statement saying that no rape had occurred.
But he is doing 7 years for it.

And remember that the German system has one Judge and two lay 'Schöffen', a sort of Magistrate equivalent.  Not a jury.
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Post by crusader 12.11.23 9:00

That is true, they wanted him behind bars and they didn't care how they did it.
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Post by Silentscope 12.11.23 9:05

The German system also changed recently due to the Attacks on Women by Immigrants. Statistically Brückner’s chances in Court were 92% likely that he would have been set free.

German lawmakers unanimously passed legislation for "improving the protection of sexual self-determination" that makes it easier for [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to file criminal complaints.
The law closes "blatant loopholes" in Germany's rape laws by widening the definition of rape to include sexual activity that goes against the "discernible will" of the victim, Justice Minister Heiko Maas said on Thursday.
If "a defenseless state is used to commit sexual attacks, the culprits can be punished for that accordingly in the future," Maas said before the vote.
"When perpetrators cannot be punished, it is a second bitter humiliation for the victims," Maas said.
Previous [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] stipulated that rape could only be punishable if the victim showed physical signs of resisting the assailant.
"It is crucial that we finally embed the principle of 'no means no' in criminal law and make every nonconsensual sexual act a punishable offense," Social Democratic Party lawmaker Eva Högl said ahead of the parliamentary vote.
In March, German Chancellor [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'s cabinet approved the measure following hundreds of reports of sexual violence committed by men of apparent foreign backgrounds on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
Under the new legislation, individuals involved in a group carrying out acts of sexual violence are liable to face criminal charges, even if they did not commit the acts themselves.
According to Germany's DPA news agency, some 8,000 rapes are reported annually. However, only 8 percent of court trials concerning rape result in a convictions, said Germany's justice minister.


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Post by Guest 12.11.23 22:58

this is one of the reasons why i call this saga copshopping, the definitions in laws are not equal all over europe.

but that piece only tells half a story, when the definition of a crime changes, there could be restrictions bases on time periods, that piece does not tell if it was an all and immediate change, or only for cases after a specific date.

we have the obligation to use the most favourable definition, for us that is a right to the defendant in court, but there is usually quite a bit of guidelines about such changes. like we had before that murder had a sol of 18 years, that got changed to no longer having a sol, but all cases that had already reached a sol did not change that. the case of the young boy nicky verstappen was one of the last who still had a sol, but because some willing officers kept the case in active investigation they could breach that just. 

in a lot of other countries it would not be classified as rape under the legal definition for rape. most would get it under assault with a sexual motive. and both have usually in most countries still a sol, higher for rape than assault. very unlickely that because the arrest was reinstated a sol can play still a role. 

but i can not say i like to see this making use of the law differences between countries. none are german cases at all, only one supposed victim is german too, but still it is strange to see it all happened, if it did, outside the german territories, by that under another ruling law, and only because they do not like to extradite german nationals, these 5 cases end up in a german court and will be handled under german law. 
for me that feels and sound not okay. 

and germany has no problem with extraditing non germans at all, but only if the offence is also criminal under their own law. 

and this new german definition of rape does not solve all, i can see from the position of a true victim this is much better, but you set the doors open to all who just talk something that never was rape or assault into prosecution. and that happens still very often in that part of law. the result will be that the true meaning of the definition will be up to the courts. so it will be the jurisprudence that will be telling much stronger. what would not make it really better for the public to understand the law, and is ends up usually certainly not better or easier for a true victim. 

so it is mostly a kind of scoring political points, it does not solve the problem.
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Post by Verdi 13.11.23 16:37

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This is an example of what a deliberately fed statement to a willing media sounds like:  

“They now know Christian B buried data carriers like hard drives and USB sticks at any of the places where he's stayed so that was their real hope at the lake.”

It was their hope.  How did their hope work out?

“They really thought they might find pictures there, but they are not giving up hope. They believe he made duplicates because he loved to keep them like trophies.”

Note the word “but” and what follows.  

It doesn’t say, “but there were no photos” or “but it didn’t pan out.”

The avoidance of clarity is met with “not giving up hope.”

Wishful thinking fed to media based upon the word of a known criminal over a high publicity case of which the public still has interest, is not “evidence.”

What of the previous claims of evidence, particularly of the last few years?

Listening to the parents told us that Madeleine was not kidnapped nor alive.

The neglectful parents prioritized their dinner over the needs of their children.  

I continue to maintain, based upon their words, that Madeleine was given something to sedate her, which went awry.  This makes the death unintentional.  Reckless neglect, but there is nothing in the language to suggest any motive but their own convenience.

They’ve kept this hoax going for a very long time.  

Over the years, I’ve interviewed parents who also have given their children something to keep them sleeping.

Cough syrup, antihistamines and such sound innocuous.  

Others used opiates or hard liquor to quiet the children.  

Some of these children never woke up.  

In Kate’s recall of that night, she could talk about anything; anything at all, especially in the context of the missing child.  These will be powerful memories (high hormonal consequence) that will last a lifetime.

Kate told us of putting something in Madeleine’s mouth.  

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

The only mystery to solve is the disposal of Madeleine’s remains.

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Post by Keelafreeze 13.11.23 19:27

Verdi, another statement analyst came up on my YouTube feed recently called Deception Detective. I’ve watched most of his McCann videos and he’s incredibly insightful. The last one he analysed was the first interview they gave after Maddie’s ‘disappearance’ and I don’t think he gets more than ten seconds in before stopping with a ‘Wow!’ and highlighting a red flag.
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Post by Verdi 13.11.23 19:36

Keelafreeze wrote:Verdi, another statement analyst came up on my YouTube feed recently called Deception Detective. I’ve watched most of his McCann videos and he’s incredibly insightful. The last one he analysed was the first interview they gave after Maddie’s ‘disappearance’ and I don’t think he gets more than ten seconds in before stopping with a ‘Wow!’ and highlighting a red flag.

A couple or few of the Deception Detective videos analysing the McCanns have been uploaded on the forum, I'm not sure where though - I've always tried to keep videos relating to the case on the video thread but lately they have been finding their way around and about.

I agree his videos are very interesting, I'll try to find the one you refer to and take it from there - it might be worth featuring all his work about the McCanns somewhere together on the forum, depends how many there are.

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ETA: I think it was the Skavlan interview videos he analyzed that have previously been uploaded on the forum, in my opinion the interviews themselves without professional analysis are probably one of the most revealing in existence - and that's tough competition.

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Post by CaKeLoveR 13.11.23 19:39

I watch the Deception Detective, and he is much more observant than any of the others.
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Post by Verdi 13.11.23 19:55

keelafreeze wrote:he last one he analysed was the first interview they gave after Maddie’s ‘disappearance’ and I don’t think he gets more than ten seconds in before stopping with a ‘Wow!’ and highlighting a red flag.

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he is building a playlist on the mccann stuff

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Post by Verdi 13.11.23 19:59

Ignore that ^^^ I realise it's not the one you refer to.

I'm about to log out, I'll get on the case later.

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Post by Verdi 13.11.23 20:01

He's done quite a few on the McCanns, I will give him his own space on the forum and upload all the videos a.s.a.p.

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Post by Keelafreeze 13.11.23 20:05

‘How repetition reveals lies’ is the name of the episode.
Fascinating stuff
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Post by Silentscope 13.11.23 21:05

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Post#259 on ‘Video of the Day’ thread refers to the Video you seek.
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Post by Keelafreeze 13.11.23 21:37

Many thanks👌🏻
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