Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
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It seems Martin Fricker was up late last night, trying to sling more Mud at the ‘Prime Suspect’ in the hope that something will stick.
I find (so far) no German news corroborates this ‘Story’, and no letter can be found containing any such NS references.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-launches-adolf-27533856
The ‘Fat Controller’ is maybe upset as they found no Scars on Brückner’s leg?
I find (so far) no German news corroborates this ‘Story’, and no letter can be found containing any such NS references.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-launches-adolf-27533856
The ‘Fat Controller’ is maybe upset as they found no Scars on Brückner’s leg?
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Madeleine McCann suspect's lawyers reveal 'evidence' they claim proves he did not rape US woman and say he should be released from prison
- Lawyers for Christian Brueckner, 45, claim new evidence exonerates him
- Brueckner is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
- He is currently in jail in Germany for the rape of a US national in 2005
- Feared if he is exonerated, he would disappear and escape justice for Madeleine
By ROB HYDE and WALTER FINCH FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 09:30, 2 September 2022 | UPDATED: 09:53, 2 September 2022
Lawyers defending Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner claim 'new facts' prove he is not a rapist and should be released from prison.
Convicted paedophile Brueckner, 45, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007, is currently in a jail in Germany for the brutal 2005 rape of a US national, then 72, in Praia da Luz.
But his lawyer, Friedrich Fuelscher, 38, claims that evidence of a noticeable scar or some form of marking on his thigh, which helped put him away in 2019, is invalid, as Brueckner has no such scar.
Justice campaigners for Madeleine McCann will be alarmed at the prospect of the prime suspect in her disappearance being exonerated, as it is feared he would disappear as soon as he is released.
Fuelscher has said the new facts relate to statements made by another alleged rape victim of Brueckner, Irishwoman Hazel Behan, who claimed the man who raped her in 2004 when she was 20 had a scar on his thigh.
Brueckner, who has been in jail for an unrelated crime in since 2019, has been the main suspect in McCann's case for two years but so far no charges relating to her have been brought against him. Now his lawyers believe they have evidence which could exonerate him
On May 3, 2007, Madeleine McCann disappeared aged three from her bed in Praia da Luz, Portugal, with convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner the prime suspect
But Brueckner recently had his thighs examined in a bid to reveal that he does not have a marking like this on this part of his body.
The 'new facts' rest on the result of an 'operative case analysis', by Germany's version of the FBI, the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), which indicated that both rapes were committed by the same attacker, Fuelscher claims.
He argues that since Bruckner does not have a scar on his thigh, it would mean he is not only innocent of the 2004 rape of Ms Behan, but he also cannot be the person who raped the US national in 2005 for which he is currently in jail.
The German prosecution believes that both Ms Behan and the US national were raped by the same perpetrator, and Fuelscher hopes that he can prove that Brueckner did not rape Ms Behan.
Fuelscher says that this revelation could turn the tables on the prosecution which ended up putting Brueckner behind bars for the 2005 rape in Portugal.
Madeleine parents, Kate and Gerry, mark the 15th anniversary of their daughter's disappearance from Portugal at a vigil in their home village of Rothley
Brueckner is currently serving his sentence at a high-security prison locally dubbed the 'Alcatraz of The North' in the town of Oldenburg, near the northern city of Bremen.
Fuelscher has now filed an application to the Braunschweig Regional Court to reopen the 2005 rape case which took place in Portugal.
However, he said there is little chance that the case will be reconsidered.
'Only a vanishingly small proportion of applications for readmission are successful' said Fuelscher.
'One sees a superior power of the criminal justice system, which tries to ward off every attack on the old judgement tooth and claw.'
When contacted, Friedrich Fuelscher was unavailable for comment.
Brueckner has been under investigation by German officials over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann for two years.
The prosecutor leading the case, Mr Wolters, repeatedly refused to say if the prime suspect had broken into the Praia da Luz apartment and grabbed the three-year-old from her bed on May 3, 2007.
Mr Wolters said Brueckner's alibi about having sex with a girlfriend at the time of the abduction had fallen apart.
Madeleine McCann would have turned 18 last year. In 2012, five years after her disappearance, her family issued an age progression e-fit photo to show what Madeleine may have looked like aged nine (right)
Video here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11172649/Madeleine-McCann-suspects-lawyers-reveal-evidence-claim-release-jail.html#v-4447159216127164647
But he admitted his team do not have the forensic evidence to put the paedophile prime suspect in the dock amid claims that fibres from the Maddie's pink Eeyore pyjamas had been found in his yellow VW camper van.
Mr Wolters hinted that Brueckner, 45, may have had an accomplice, by refusing to say if he was certain the German took Maddie from her parents' holiday apartment at Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast on May 3, 2007.
Mr Wolters also said they had still not worked out who made a mysterious 30-minute phone call to Brueckner, placing him close to where Madeleine disappeared on the night she went missing.
But when asked if he was sure that it was Brueckner who broke into the Ocean Club apartment and took her, he twice repeated that he believed that he was the killer but would not comment on who snatched the British three-year-old.
He said: 'We are sure that he is the murderer of Madeleine McCann. We are sure that he killed Madeleine McCann.'
Christian Breuckner: To be or not to be
"But he admitted his team do not have the forensic evidence to put the paedophile prime suspect in the dock amid claims that fibres from the Maddie's pink Eeyore pyjamas had been found in his yellow VW camper van."
How do you match fibres to a pair of pyjamas that had been abducted?
How do you match fibres to a pair of pyjamas that had been abducted?
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Well let's just hope 'the lawyers' are right, we can then finally lay this German man to rest in obscurity - never to be mentioned again in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
I note that certain quarters are still desperately trying to keep the Breuckner gospel afloat despite the apparent absence of any evidence to suggest his involvement. Would you believe this cyber conclave actually believe Breuckner was involved, the more rational try to educate the deluded but it makes no difference, they still keep trotting out the same twaddle.
#makesyerfonkdunnit
Who knows what tomorrow brings, already the latest revelation has taken root across UK tabloids. No change there.
I fully expect this will be expanded in the ensuing hours/days here there and everywhere, just as long as Breuckner is kept in focus.
Until the next time ....
I note that certain quarters are still desperately trying to keep the Breuckner gospel afloat despite the apparent absence of any evidence to suggest his involvement. Would you believe this cyber conclave actually believe Breuckner was involved, the more rational try to educate the deluded but it makes no difference, they still keep trotting out the same twaddle.
#makesyerfonkdunnit
Who knows what tomorrow brings, already the latest revelation has taken root across UK tabloids. No change there.
I fully expect this will be expanded in the ensuing hours/days here there and everywhere, just as long as Breuckner is kept in focus.
Until the next time ....
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YOU SAW IT HERE FIRST
as we revealed a long time ago, Brückner has NO SCAR on his thigh, cross shaped or otherwise.
NOR has he had facio-maxilliary surgery, both seem to have been pure inventions publicised by the usual suspect.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11172649/Madeleine-McCann-suspects-lawyers-reveal-evidence-claim-release-jail.html
I wonder if the Olive Press will publish this as an "exclusive" and APOLOGISE [rhetorical, obviously !]
as we revealed a long time ago, Brückner has NO SCAR on his thigh, cross shaped or otherwise.
NOR has he had facio-maxilliary surgery, both seem to have been pure inventions publicised by the usual suspect.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11172649/Madeleine-McCann-suspects-lawyers-reveal-evidence-claim-release-jail.html
Madeleine McCann suspect's lawyers reveal 'evidence' they claim proves he did not rape US woman and say he should be released from prison
- Lawyers for Christian Brueckner, 45, claim new evidence exonerates him
- Lawyers defending Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner claim 'new facts' prove he is not a rapist and should be released from prison.
Convicted paedophile Brueckner, 45, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007, is currently in a jail in Germany for the brutal 2005 rape of a US national, then 72, in Praia da Luz.
But his lawyer, Friedrich Fuelscher, 38, claims that evidence of a noticeable scar or some form of marking on his thigh, which helped put him away in 2019, is invalid, as Brueckner has no such scar.
I wonder if the Olive Press will publish this as an "exclusive" and APOLOGISE [rhetorical, obviously !]
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But, but, but...he MUST be guilty because Jon's an intrepid reporter and he spent 14 months investigating him and besides he's on the front cover of Jon's book now with a Brunty review...so there.
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I wondered when his name would crop up again. It's beyond belief that he was ever brought into the disappearance of Madeleine.
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" He said , We are sure he is the murderer of Madeleine McCann . We are sure that he killed Madeleine McCann " !!!!!
But but but the Mccanns are still insistent that Madeleine is alive and well , will we see them suing Herr Wolters , will there be a letter from Carter Ruck on its way to Germany ?
Will they be furious , upset , angry , will Kandhola be getting her typewriter out again ?
Which " ex top cop " will be jumping on the bandwagon again ?
But but but the Mccanns are still insistent that Madeleine is alive and well , will we see them suing Herr Wolters , will there be a letter from Carter Ruck on its way to Germany ?
Will they be furious , upset , angry , will Kandhola be getting her typewriter out again ?
Which " ex top cop " will be jumping on the bandwagon again ?
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Brueckner has turned out to be a nice little earner. Just as things were about to dry-up, along comes Mister Mystery surrounded by yet more ripping yarns to obscure facts and evidence.
This latest crap, which incidentally has nothing whatsoever to do with the case of Madeleine McCann although carefully woven into the intrigue, comes to us courtesy of Bild (affectionately known by countryfolk as Bilge) the German equivalent to the British tabloid, The Sun!
Nudge nudge wink wink.
The original story emanating from Germany well over two years ago and it variants added over the months, forget/ignore/by-pass the facts and evidence of the case as studiously documented in the PJ files.
Repercussions of Germany's dastardly publicity stunt have spread far and wide, every single one of them obediently following the Brueckner trail - another to add to the list..
Madeleine McCann: Who Took Madeline (Part 2)
Episode aired Aug 28, 2022
As the investigation of Madeleine McCann's disappearance continues, Kate and Gerry McCann unpeel one dark layer after another about what they thought was a safe holiday destination. Fifteen years later, investigators have a new suspect.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21832830/?ref_=tt_eps_rec
I think the latest exposé is nicely summarised in this short paragraph..
There is no evidence to suggest anyone broke into the Ocean Club apartment, there is no evidence to suggest anyone snatched her.
There is however compelling evidence that Madeleine McCann died in Ocean Club apartment 5a, as there is compelling evidence that the parents McCann and there group of friends are less than honest about the circumstances surrounding that fateful holiday.
To whom it may concern .... read the files !!!
This latest crap, which incidentally has nothing whatsoever to do with the case of Madeleine McCann although carefully woven into the intrigue, comes to us courtesy of Bild (affectionately known by countryfolk as Bilge) the German equivalent to the British tabloid, The Sun!
Nudge nudge wink wink.
The original story emanating from Germany well over two years ago and it variants added over the months, forget/ignore/by-pass the facts and evidence of the case as studiously documented in the PJ files.
Repercussions of Germany's dastardly publicity stunt have spread far and wide, every single one of them obediently following the Brueckner trail - another to add to the list..
Madeleine McCann: Who Took Madeline (Part 2)
Episode aired Aug 28, 2022
As the investigation of Madeleine McCann's disappearance continues, Kate and Gerry McCann unpeel one dark layer after another about what they thought was a safe holiday destination. Fifteen years later, investigators have a new suspect.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21832830/?ref_=tt_eps_rec
I think the latest exposé is nicely summarised in this short paragraph..
But when asked if he was sure that it was Brueckner who broke into the Ocean Club apartment and took her, he twice repeated that he believed that he was the killer but would not comment on who snatched the British three-year-old.
There is no evidence to suggest anyone broke into the Ocean Club apartment, there is no evidence to suggest anyone snatched her.
There is however compelling evidence that Madeleine McCann died in Ocean Club apartment 5a, as there is compelling evidence that the parents McCann and there group of friends are less than honest about the circumstances surrounding that fateful holiday.
To whom it may concern .... read the files !!!
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Now Kiel star lawyer Friedrich Fülscher (38) surprises us with this move: He requested the resumption of the first rape trial! Reason: In the course of the current investigation, new facts have emerged that relieve suspicions on Brückner.
The lawyer apparently refers to the statements of the victim Hazel B. and the results of an "operating case analysis" of the BKA, which was carried out as part of the investigation into the rape of Irish girl Hazel B. According to BILD information, the analysis is said to have shown that the same perpetrator could have committed both rapes.
Problematic for the indictment: Hazel B. told the police that the perpetrator had a noticeable scar on his thigh. A recognition investigation by Brückner revealed that the Maddie suspect is said not to have such a scar.
Now lawyer Fülscher apparently uses the testimony and the result of the case analysis against the prosecutors: If the same perpetrator is said to have committed both acts, but his client has no scar on his thigh - then he cannot have raped Diana M. either!
Despite the new facts, the defender has little hope that the court will reopen the case. Only a negligible proportion of resumption requests are successful, says Fülscher to BILD.
One is faced with an superiority of criminal justice, which tries to ward off any attack on the old judgement with teeth and claws.
Source Bild Kai Feldhaus
Translation Google
https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/maddie-verdaechtiger-christian-brueckner-will-kein-vergewaltiger-sein-prozess-be-81173862.bild.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
The lawyer apparently refers to the statements of the victim Hazel B. and the results of an "operating case analysis" of the BKA, which was carried out as part of the investigation into the rape of Irish girl Hazel B. According to BILD information, the analysis is said to have shown that the same perpetrator could have committed both rapes.
Problematic for the indictment: Hazel B. told the police that the perpetrator had a noticeable scar on his thigh. A recognition investigation by Brückner revealed that the Maddie suspect is said not to have such a scar.
Now lawyer Fülscher apparently uses the testimony and the result of the case analysis against the prosecutors: If the same perpetrator is said to have committed both acts, but his client has no scar on his thigh - then he cannot have raped Diana M. either!
Despite the new facts, the defender has little hope that the court will reopen the case. Only a negligible proportion of resumption requests are successful, says Fülscher to BILD.
One is faced with an superiority of criminal justice, which tries to ward off any attack on the old judgement with teeth and claws.
Source Bild Kai Feldhaus
Translation Google
https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/maddie-verdaechtiger-christian-brueckner-will-kein-vergewaltiger-sein-prozess-be-81173862.bild.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
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PeterMac wrote:YOU SAW IT HERE FIRST
as we revealed a long time ago, Brückner has NO SCAR on his thigh, cross shaped or otherwise.
NOR has he had facio-maxilliary surgery, both seem to have been pure inventions publicised by the usual suspect.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11172649/Madeleine-McCann-suspects-lawyers-reveal-evidence-claim-release-jail.htmlMadeleine McCann suspect's lawyers reveal 'evidence' they claim proves he did not rape US woman and say he should be released from prison
- Lawyers for Christian Brueckner, 45, claim new evidence exonerates him
- Lawyers defending Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner claim 'new facts' prove he is not a rapist and should be released from prison.
Convicted paedophile Brueckner, 45, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007, is currently in a jail in Germany for the brutal 2005 rape of a US national, then 72, in Praia da Luz.
But his lawyer, Friedrich Fuelscher, 38, claims that evidence of a noticeable scar or some form of marking on his thigh, which helped put him away in 2019, is invalid, as Brueckner has no such scar.
I wonder if the Olive Press will publish this as an "exclusive" and APOLOGISE [rhetorical, obviously !]
You are right, we have seen this before.
It's like a re-run of the Murat story. A suspect comes along to take the heat of the McCanns for a while and once they have achieved that, the suspect is exonerated and paid off. Is the Brueckner story nothing more of a hoax than the Murat story?
I cannot get passed the idea that Brueckner has been a willing Patsy all along. Am I alone with this thought?
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If he were a willing patsy, would he know who he'd made the deal with? If he does know, he has a bargaining chip.
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The only interest for certain quarters, including the more recent journalistic reports and more recent documentaries, is to keep the name Christian Breuckner top of the list, the focal point, the be all and end all, the one and only suspect.
So here we are again as I predicted up-page ....
So here we are again as I predicted up-page ....
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11177297/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-face-fresh-sex-assault-charges-weeks.html
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will face fresh sex assault charges within weeks, it has been reported.
However, Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor investigating Maddie's disappearance, warned there's no end in sight for the three-year-old's probe.
Brueckner, 45, was named by police as the prime suspect in the toddler's disappearance two years ago in the hopes that it would lead them to evidence that would allow them to formally charge him. He said: 'The investigation into Maddie is still ongoing. A conclusion is not in sight.
'I really can’t say how long the investigation will take. It is also not certain whether an indictment can be made in the end.'
END QUOTE
But Jon Clarke-Kent, intrepid reporter with a hot line direct to Wolters' office, assured us that he would be charged within weeks, or in the summer.
And surely he is an honourable man
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will face fresh sex assault charges within weeks, it has been reported.
However, Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor investigating Maddie's disappearance, warned there's no end in sight for the three-year-old's probe.
Brueckner, 45, was named by police as the prime suspect in the toddler's disappearance two years ago in the hopes that it would lead them to evidence that would allow them to formally charge him. He said: 'The investigation into Maddie is still ongoing. A conclusion is not in sight.
'I really can’t say how long the investigation will take. It is also not certain whether an indictment can be made in the end.'
END QUOTE
But Jon Clarke-Kent, intrepid reporter with a hot line direct to Wolters' office, assured us that he would be charged within weeks, or in the summer.
And surely he is an honourable man
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If the recent Reports are an attempt to influence the outcome of the ECHR or divert our attention from it, it is not working.
The ECHR have previously suggested to the McCanns that they should try to reach a friendly out of Court settlement. The Case is still awaiting confirmation of approval to go ahead.
https://www.portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal/
The ECHR have previously suggested to the McCanns that they should try to reach a friendly out of Court settlement. The Case is still awaiting confirmation of approval to go ahead.
https://www.portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal/
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
silent scope, that is a quite old letter, dated as 17-9-2020, so that would not tell anything about the state of mind almost 2 years later.
when you are innocent, being fed up with being put in jail would certainly make you fed up, when you are not innocent and caught out and being put in jail that would not make things very different.
this old letter has hardly factual information, and it has no difference to the majority of jail time letters, who are written day after day to pen pals outside. it is a well known hobby for a bunch of people. the common factor is they are always innocent, but the judge or judge and jury thought differently.
i do like law, but if that case is thrown out, he would get back on the streets, and that tiny result in itself is why i can work for a lawyer, but never have been wanting to be one.
this person already has 3 convictions against minors, two of indecent exposure and it did only not gone beyond that because of the actions of his victims, the third was sexual abuse, under german law today all 3 cases could be classified as rape. in the third case he also produced child porn.
these former victims have first to find a way to live on with their memories, second they can not escape from the attention this culprit of choice for the mccann case the german episode get. in the third case there will be a day this still minor child find out, her pictures are still out there.
my pretty small in numbers experiences with rape victims gives me the opinion that it does not matter much who raped you, how you are raped, or how many times. the results for living with it could be just the same, it will always be with them, and too many can not do that, some can learn to cope better, but it does not end with just getting the culprit in jail.
rape and even indecent exposure or behavior have a long memory, far too often only for the victims.
i live in the same little city as one of the victims of rape, i did assist shortly after all had happened, but she made something of her live, but it has taken her years to get there again, but i still can not pass her in the street or at a shop, and look in her eyes, when i do, i see her break down inside, only because i know what once happened to her. so from the outside she likes to cope very good, but inside those memories are still raw and uncut.
so in this case against this culprit, i would like to see the law used as it should be, but there is still another side, the one of his former victims, and we only know of the 3 because of the convictions, who knows how many more are out there, who never could get to tell, or whose parents, like in the algarve in the redwood cases decided not telling would be best.
and also these 3 first known victims have to experience that what he did to them was not bad enough to keep him in jail. so beside used by the culprit, even the german justice system find their experience not bad enough, to protect society and new victims. not specific german, this happens in all countries of the world.
at the side of the victims you do not see categories, but in todays world we together do. the gory details about the rape of the american lady, got far more attention, than the sexual abuse and forever out there 'in the cloud' pictures from it of that still very young child.
so yes, the law is too often failing the victims, and most people would not even realize, the law has no role for the victim, it is not in name of the victim a case goes to court, once upon a time it was nicely thought, that a crime against one, was a crime against all. so the state or the head of state, or the people take the stand against a possible suspect in court. some countries have minor roles written in to court cases, most pretty recently done. once done to protect a victim, so they have not do that confrontation by themselves, it is very good in forgetting the victims as the human beings they are.
i like that principle of law, but i also realize, that case closed culprit convicted, only close the curtains for us, the public, the victims have no curtains that easy be closed, they still have to live each day with those memories. and when you can not find your own way to deal with it, you often have to pay for the help you need. and it has too often large negative influences for years and the rest of their lives. nothing can undo memories, but the victims are mostly forgotten and on their own to deal with it.
so even if the culprit of choice gets a retrial or exoneration of the case of the american lady, there still are victims of this person out there. at least 3 we know of former convictions, and the portuguese play ground case he was caught with his trousers down. the rest is still undecided.
and hazel behan, who took action, but who will not get her justice this round when and if her case will be thrown out in germany. the conviction in the case of the american lady, must have given her the hope to finally know who did rape her, and would maybe still have some hope someone will be punished for what was done to her.
if her case is thrown out, she has to live again with not knowing who her perpetrator was. i do hope she got already all the help she needs to live through it, not again, it would never have left her, so it was always there. she was not in this as an attention seeker, she is out there to seek some justice, because she was raped and she still need some answers.
but in today's world we are not able to stop these kind of criminals, they got chances over and over again, and these kind of crimes are not bad memories for them, most do what they liked to do. and far too much do it over and over again.
and putting this one in jail because he raped a older lady for 7 years, but not in jail or far lesser time for the rape under german law of 3 little girls. and i did the same way of downgrading when i was able to read up in his official list of convictions, i did automatically fill indecent exposure on a lower rank, and thinking about it, not exactly because i see it as a minor offence, but the law usually does. less spectaculair fits better.
and there is a trend in rape, look in what gets the attention more and longer, rape is rape as it fulfill the terms of the law. but in today's world you better be raped for years, a whole gang, or at least with satanic intentions, or it does not really count. from the victims of rape it does very little matter who, how or how often they are raped, they all are raped, their personal body was used without consent and beyond respect for them, before, during and after the act itself.
names as gang rape, satanic rape, incest, are only an explanation for the perp, not the victim, in rape the victim has no voice, or choice. such names are nothing other than an excuse why a perp does it, nothing to do with the victim of it. and there is never a valid excuse to rape.
and all those stories about the german culprit of choice for the madeleine mccann case are only about him.
and the rest of all those stories lack still every form that gets near the threshold of evidence, and what was getting out, was only some fantasy of a reporter.
could you classify rape in better and worse, i do not think so. with only one outsider, rape by a person close to you, so besides the rape you also could loose your save place, trusted people and too often even large parts of your network. and from that chances in your later life.
but why can the same law put this guy in jail or state hotel accommodation for the rest of his live, when he got convicted for rape of two women abroad, but not for 3 as rape classified offences against 3 young children that already have a sound conviction? could that not have be done sooner?
and why is an uk born girl who went missing in another country more important than the children of your own country?
i do not think there is ever to be proud to have solved a case if this culprit of choice had done it, and i do not see any lines to think that, that never could have happened when the law was used years before. when the 2 rape cases in portugal are enough for keeping someone of the streets, the first two must have been usable to do that already.
he is in the right place, only it could be the wrong case he is in there, but the streets could do better without him, so he can be as fed up as he likes. and in this case, the correct way to use the law could mean he gets out again. and based on form he will just get on in the same career path. and that cannot come as a surprise. the experts in his first case already got to that conclusion. and he still is not fed up about what he done before, but what he could not do, or have now.
besides i think there is a place in jail reserved for the true perps in the madeleine mccann case, it is not the same as this culprit of german choices deserves to walk free, but that one deserves to be kept in based on his own merits. well that will most likely just end in keeping on dreaming.
when you are innocent, being fed up with being put in jail would certainly make you fed up, when you are not innocent and caught out and being put in jail that would not make things very different.
this old letter has hardly factual information, and it has no difference to the majority of jail time letters, who are written day after day to pen pals outside. it is a well known hobby for a bunch of people. the common factor is they are always innocent, but the judge or judge and jury thought differently.
i do like law, but if that case is thrown out, he would get back on the streets, and that tiny result in itself is why i can work for a lawyer, but never have been wanting to be one.
this person already has 3 convictions against minors, two of indecent exposure and it did only not gone beyond that because of the actions of his victims, the third was sexual abuse, under german law today all 3 cases could be classified as rape. in the third case he also produced child porn.
these former victims have first to find a way to live on with their memories, second they can not escape from the attention this culprit of choice for the mccann case the german episode get. in the third case there will be a day this still minor child find out, her pictures are still out there.
my pretty small in numbers experiences with rape victims gives me the opinion that it does not matter much who raped you, how you are raped, or how many times. the results for living with it could be just the same, it will always be with them, and too many can not do that, some can learn to cope better, but it does not end with just getting the culprit in jail.
rape and even indecent exposure or behavior have a long memory, far too often only for the victims.
i live in the same little city as one of the victims of rape, i did assist shortly after all had happened, but she made something of her live, but it has taken her years to get there again, but i still can not pass her in the street or at a shop, and look in her eyes, when i do, i see her break down inside, only because i know what once happened to her. so from the outside she likes to cope very good, but inside those memories are still raw and uncut.
so in this case against this culprit, i would like to see the law used as it should be, but there is still another side, the one of his former victims, and we only know of the 3 because of the convictions, who knows how many more are out there, who never could get to tell, or whose parents, like in the algarve in the redwood cases decided not telling would be best.
and also these 3 first known victims have to experience that what he did to them was not bad enough to keep him in jail. so beside used by the culprit, even the german justice system find their experience not bad enough, to protect society and new victims. not specific german, this happens in all countries of the world.
at the side of the victims you do not see categories, but in todays world we together do. the gory details about the rape of the american lady, got far more attention, than the sexual abuse and forever out there 'in the cloud' pictures from it of that still very young child.
so yes, the law is too often failing the victims, and most people would not even realize, the law has no role for the victim, it is not in name of the victim a case goes to court, once upon a time it was nicely thought, that a crime against one, was a crime against all. so the state or the head of state, or the people take the stand against a possible suspect in court. some countries have minor roles written in to court cases, most pretty recently done. once done to protect a victim, so they have not do that confrontation by themselves, it is very good in forgetting the victims as the human beings they are.
i like that principle of law, but i also realize, that case closed culprit convicted, only close the curtains for us, the public, the victims have no curtains that easy be closed, they still have to live each day with those memories. and when you can not find your own way to deal with it, you often have to pay for the help you need. and it has too often large negative influences for years and the rest of their lives. nothing can undo memories, but the victims are mostly forgotten and on their own to deal with it.
so even if the culprit of choice gets a retrial or exoneration of the case of the american lady, there still are victims of this person out there. at least 3 we know of former convictions, and the portuguese play ground case he was caught with his trousers down. the rest is still undecided.
and hazel behan, who took action, but who will not get her justice this round when and if her case will be thrown out in germany. the conviction in the case of the american lady, must have given her the hope to finally know who did rape her, and would maybe still have some hope someone will be punished for what was done to her.
if her case is thrown out, she has to live again with not knowing who her perpetrator was. i do hope she got already all the help she needs to live through it, not again, it would never have left her, so it was always there. she was not in this as an attention seeker, she is out there to seek some justice, because she was raped and she still need some answers.
but in today's world we are not able to stop these kind of criminals, they got chances over and over again, and these kind of crimes are not bad memories for them, most do what they liked to do. and far too much do it over and over again.
and putting this one in jail because he raped a older lady for 7 years, but not in jail or far lesser time for the rape under german law of 3 little girls. and i did the same way of downgrading when i was able to read up in his official list of convictions, i did automatically fill indecent exposure on a lower rank, and thinking about it, not exactly because i see it as a minor offence, but the law usually does. less spectaculair fits better.
and there is a trend in rape, look in what gets the attention more and longer, rape is rape as it fulfill the terms of the law. but in today's world you better be raped for years, a whole gang, or at least with satanic intentions, or it does not really count. from the victims of rape it does very little matter who, how or how often they are raped, they all are raped, their personal body was used without consent and beyond respect for them, before, during and after the act itself.
names as gang rape, satanic rape, incest, are only an explanation for the perp, not the victim, in rape the victim has no voice, or choice. such names are nothing other than an excuse why a perp does it, nothing to do with the victim of it. and there is never a valid excuse to rape.
and all those stories about the german culprit of choice for the madeleine mccann case are only about him.
and the rest of all those stories lack still every form that gets near the threshold of evidence, and what was getting out, was only some fantasy of a reporter.
could you classify rape in better and worse, i do not think so. with only one outsider, rape by a person close to you, so besides the rape you also could loose your save place, trusted people and too often even large parts of your network. and from that chances in your later life.
but why can the same law put this guy in jail or state hotel accommodation for the rest of his live, when he got convicted for rape of two women abroad, but not for 3 as rape classified offences against 3 young children that already have a sound conviction? could that not have be done sooner?
and why is an uk born girl who went missing in another country more important than the children of your own country?
i do not think there is ever to be proud to have solved a case if this culprit of choice had done it, and i do not see any lines to think that, that never could have happened when the law was used years before. when the 2 rape cases in portugal are enough for keeping someone of the streets, the first two must have been usable to do that already.
he is in the right place, only it could be the wrong case he is in there, but the streets could do better without him, so he can be as fed up as he likes. and in this case, the correct way to use the law could mean he gets out again. and based on form he will just get on in the same career path. and that cannot come as a surprise. the experts in his first case already got to that conclusion. and he still is not fed up about what he done before, but what he could not do, or have now.
besides i think there is a place in jail reserved for the true perps in the madeleine mccann case, it is not the same as this culprit of german choices deserves to walk free, but that one deserves to be kept in based on his own merits. well that will most likely just end in keeping on dreaming.
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Herr Fülscher has the opinion that the Prosecution has the objective to keep Brückner off the Streets forever. The PJ’s comments in a leaked Email how the BKA so badly Investigated seem to back this up.
They cannot pin Maddies Murder on him, so they will just get him a life sentence by other means.
Then he can be Suspected forever, which is probably the plan.
They cannot pin Maddies Murder on him, so they will just get him a life sentence by other means.
Then he can be Suspected forever, which is probably the plan.
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And then taken in context..
Mixed messages as McCanns bid to take three-time court defeat to new appeal
10th September 2017
There are multiple mixed messages as the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are reported to be taking their three-time court defeat in Portugal to the very last point of appeal: the European Court of Human Rights.
British tabloids are already presenting the new situation as ‘a given’ – the Mail for example, claims “it is understood that the result of the appeal will not be known for at least four years”.
But the truth is that it may not even get accepted.
The ECHR website carries no details of the action (believed to have been lodged in July) for the simple reason that it must first be considered to merit this final avenue of legal recourse – an outcome many believe is unlikely.
The reasons for this is that the 75-page judgement the McCann parents are challenging – handed down by Portugal’s highest court – cited tenets set out by the ECHR, not to mention rights enshrined in the Portuguese Constitution.
As a source explained, “the parents have been told three times that the theory published by former PJ police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral did not overstep the bounds of freedom of expression”.
“Furthermore, the UK press fails to understand that Maddie’s parents can only make a case against the Portuguese state, and not against an individual person.
“For Gonçalo Amaral, the case is over. Done and dusted. He won, and the McCanns can’t ignore the decision simply because they are going to the ECHR”.
“Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira” (Maddie: The Truth of the Lie) is back on sale and has purportedly been published and translated in France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.
An English translation has been available online for years, and “read by millions” (click here).
But according to the UK Sun – which led with an ‘exclusive’ yesterday on what it is calling “a last ditch appeal” against a “shameless ex police chief” – the reasons for the McCann’s new legal bid lie not simply in the fact that they “are desperately upset at Amaral’s claims”, but also that they are “shattered” that Portugal’s top judges did not accept that they had “successfully proved their innocence”.
This was perhaps the most devastating outcome of the Supreme Court ruling, and one which saw UK tabloids go into overdrive (click here).
In other words, this is no longer a fight against what the Sun terms “the outrageous slurs of the Truth of the Lie”, but a battle now against Portuguese Justice.
As a legal source has commented: “The McCanns have effectively to prove that the Supreme Court made a massive mistake”.
The appeal bid could also be seen as another way of stalling the hugely expensive outcome of all these years of painful litigation.
The Sun explains: “So far no money has been paid by either party”.
In January, the Mail suggested that the McCanns “could now face financial ruin as they face paying Gonçalo Amaral huge court costs and could be sued themselves by the former policeman”.
Amaral, for the time being, is keeping his counsel.
Marking the 10-years since Madeleine’s disappearance during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, he gave a series of interviews to the Cofina media group in which he repeated his theory, as set out in the ‘Truth of the Lie’, explaining all the reasons for it (click here).
Since then he has kept a low profile.
Meantime, the Metropolitan Police are seeking renewed funding for Operation Grange – the probe that has already cost over £11 million looking for answers in this unparalleled case (click here), while streaming service Netflix is said to be making a new eight-part documentary on Madeleine’s disappearance, interviewing “key figures and investigators”.
Parents Kate and Gerry have “refused to be involved”, writes the Sun – highlighting the word refused in capitals.
The McCann’s reasoning, says the tabloid, is that Grange “is still active” – though a decision on whether or not to extend funding, and therefore keep Grange alive, has yet to be made public.
Ten years and four months on, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann shows absolutely no sign of disappearing.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
https://www.portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal/
It's important to fully understand the function of the ECHR as Ms Donn clearly does! I won't bother to again explain, there are some things folk just don't want to accept - even if that information comes direct from it's place of origin.
Back on topic ....
Mixed messages as McCanns bid to take three-time court defeat to new appeal
10th September 2017
There are multiple mixed messages as the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are reported to be taking their three-time court defeat in Portugal to the very last point of appeal: the European Court of Human Rights.
British tabloids are already presenting the new situation as ‘a given’ – the Mail for example, claims “it is understood that the result of the appeal will not be known for at least four years”.
But the truth is that it may not even get accepted.
The ECHR website carries no details of the action (believed to have been lodged in July) for the simple reason that it must first be considered to merit this final avenue of legal recourse – an outcome many believe is unlikely.
The reasons for this is that the 75-page judgement the McCann parents are challenging – handed down by Portugal’s highest court – cited tenets set out by the ECHR, not to mention rights enshrined in the Portuguese Constitution.
As a source explained, “the parents have been told three times that the theory published by former PJ police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral did not overstep the bounds of freedom of expression”.
“Furthermore, the UK press fails to understand that Maddie’s parents can only make a case against the Portuguese state, and not against an individual person.
“For Gonçalo Amaral, the case is over. Done and dusted. He won, and the McCanns can’t ignore the decision simply because they are going to the ECHR”.
“Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira” (Maddie: The Truth of the Lie) is back on sale and has purportedly been published and translated in France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.
An English translation has been available online for years, and “read by millions” (click here).
But according to the UK Sun – which led with an ‘exclusive’ yesterday on what it is calling “a last ditch appeal” against a “shameless ex police chief” – the reasons for the McCann’s new legal bid lie not simply in the fact that they “are desperately upset at Amaral’s claims”, but also that they are “shattered” that Portugal’s top judges did not accept that they had “successfully proved their innocence”.
This was perhaps the most devastating outcome of the Supreme Court ruling, and one which saw UK tabloids go into overdrive (click here).
In other words, this is no longer a fight against what the Sun terms “the outrageous slurs of the Truth of the Lie”, but a battle now against Portuguese Justice.
As a legal source has commented: “The McCanns have effectively to prove that the Supreme Court made a massive mistake”.
The appeal bid could also be seen as another way of stalling the hugely expensive outcome of all these years of painful litigation.
The Sun explains: “So far no money has been paid by either party”.
In January, the Mail suggested that the McCanns “could now face financial ruin as they face paying Gonçalo Amaral huge court costs and could be sued themselves by the former policeman”.
Amaral, for the time being, is keeping his counsel.
Marking the 10-years since Madeleine’s disappearance during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, he gave a series of interviews to the Cofina media group in which he repeated his theory, as set out in the ‘Truth of the Lie’, explaining all the reasons for it (click here).
Since then he has kept a low profile.
Meantime, the Metropolitan Police are seeking renewed funding for Operation Grange – the probe that has already cost over £11 million looking for answers in this unparalleled case (click here), while streaming service Netflix is said to be making a new eight-part documentary on Madeleine’s disappearance, interviewing “key figures and investigators”.
Parents Kate and Gerry have “refused to be involved”, writes the Sun – highlighting the word refused in capitals.
The McCann’s reasoning, says the tabloid, is that Grange “is still active” – though a decision on whether or not to extend funding, and therefore keep Grange alive, has yet to be made public.
Ten years and four months on, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann shows absolutely no sign of disappearing.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
https://www.portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal/
It's important to fully understand the function of the ECHR as Ms Donn clearly does! I won't bother to again explain, there are some things folk just don't want to accept - even if that information comes direct from it's place of origin.
Back on topic ....
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Over two years ago it was declare publicly by German authorities via their own propagandist - Bild, there was strong evidence to prove he who can't be named, you know Christian Breuckner, murdered little Madeleine McCann. As it was rumoured 'he would never be released from incarceration'.
This single declaration led to months of speculative commentary about where why when and how - over two yeas ago. It was anticipated he would be charged by the end of summer 2020 (that's the year two thousand and twenty - not twenty twenty), then by the end of the year, then by summer of 2021, then by the end of the year, then by summer of 2022 and here we are today still being fed the same old rotten rubbish.
Then there was pending rape charges, then there was pending child abuse charges and now it's anticipated he might be released from prison.
This single declaration led to months of speculative commentary about where why when and how - over two yeas ago. It was anticipated he would be charged by the end of summer 2020 (that's the year two thousand and twenty - not twenty twenty), then by the end of the year, then by summer of 2021, then by the end of the year, then by summer of 2022 and here we are today still being fed the same old rotten rubbish.
Then there was pending rape charges, then there was pending child abuse charges and now it's anticipated he might be released from prison.
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He has already tried to get out on Parole, but it was denied.
The Braunschweig district court has rejected a premature end to the detention of the German suspect in the case "Maddie" for a drug offence. A suspension of the remaining sentence to probation "could not be responsible taking into account the security interest of the general public," the court said.
So if they will not let him out on Parole for a Drug offence, he is unlikely to be released early for Rape, Murder or anything else.
The Braunschweig district court has rejected a premature end to the detention of the German suspect in the case "Maddie" for a drug offence. A suspension of the remaining sentence to probation "could not be responsible taking into account the security interest of the general public," the court said.
So if they will not let him out on Parole for a Drug offence, he is unlikely to be released early for Rape, Murder or anything else.
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So said the press reports
Breuckner is not currently serving a prison sentence for a drug offence, he's serving a prison sentence for the alleged rape of an American woman in Portugal some long time ago.
So say the press and if you believe even a fraction of what comes out in the press, you are seriously deluded and the system is working.
The press can't even get the basics on track, what hope is there for a rational report on any subject of potential importance. It's not as though any of this has any even remote connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, don't give me any of that 'he fits the profile' crap, twist and turn however you like rape on women of various ages and alleged flashing in the vicinity of children, nicking diesel and drug dealing - a child abductor and murdered does not make!
But hey, who cares - just keep the name Christian Breuckner on top of the pile, for whatever reason - now that takes some determination. The only questions is .... why the relentless need for so doing?
A rhetorical question of course.
Breuckner is not currently serving a prison sentence for a drug offence, he's serving a prison sentence for the alleged rape of an American woman in Portugal some long time ago.
So say the press and if you believe even a fraction of what comes out in the press, you are seriously deluded and the system is working.
The press can't even get the basics on track, what hope is there for a rational report on any subject of potential importance. It's not as though any of this has any even remote connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, don't give me any of that 'he fits the profile' crap, twist and turn however you like rape on women of various ages and alleged flashing in the vicinity of children, nicking diesel and drug dealing - a child abductor and murdered does not make!
But hey, who cares - just keep the name Christian Breuckner on top of the pile, for whatever reason - now that takes some determination. The only questions is .... why the relentless need for so doing?
A rhetorical question of course.
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Lest they forget..
EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann prosecutor 100% convinced Christian B abducted and murdered her
Madeleine McCann prosecutors say they have no body and no DNA but other evidence leads to only one conclusion - jailed rapist Christian Brueckner is guilty and could be charged next year
ByMartin Fricker, in Braunschweig, Germany
21:36, 8 Oct 2021Updated22:41, 9 Oct 2021
Investigators are “100% sure” sex offender Christian Brueckner murdered Madeleine McCann.
They have the evidence to charge him and hope the probe will conclude next year.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We’re confident we have the man who took and killed her.”
Prosecutors investigating paedophile Christian Brueckner on suspicion of murdering Madeleine McCann are certain of his guilt and determined to build the strongest possible case against him.
They believe they have the evidence to charge the 44-year-old and it has “100% convinced” them that he killed her.
And they hope to be able to bring charges next year.
But as Brueckner is already in jail for separate offences the team are taking time to gather as much evidence as possible before bringing it to court.
Speaking exclusively to the Mirror, German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.
“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.
“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.
“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue. I’m not saying that what we have is insufficient now. But he’s in prison, so we don’t have this pressure on us. We have time on our hands.”
However, the prosecutors now admit they have no proof Madeleine is dead – despite authorities in Braunschweig telling the McCanns last year that they had “evidence” she is no longer alive.
Mr Wolters said they have no idea how she died and no DNA or photo evidence linking the German sex offender to the alleged murder. Addressing Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, he said: “We are confident we have the man who took and killed your daughter.”
“All I can do is ask for your patience. I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion.
“I can’t tell you on which basis we assume she is dead. But for us, there’s no other possibility. There is no hope she is alive.”
Madeleine vanished from her family’s holiday flat at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007, days before her fourth birthday. Kate and Gerry of Rothley, Leics, have said they “hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again”.
Evidence being investigated includes a “confession” Brueckner made to a pal and phone analysis showing he was at the Ocean Club when the toddler vanished. Mr Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.”
Brueckner was living in a camper van close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. UK and German police first became aware of him as a suspect in 2017 but only went public with it last June. Senior investigators have spoken to potential key witnesses in Germany and Portugal.
Mr Wolters dismissed as “rubbish” a recent report that the probe will end by Christmas, but said it is likely Brueckner will be charged early next year with other alleged offences in Portugal.
They include the rape of an Irish woman in the Algarve in 2004 and two incidents where he allegedly flashed at youngsters.
Asked if he was happy with the pace of the Madeleine probe, Mr Wolters said: “It could have gone better. Of course we hoped we’d get such good tip-offs that the investigation might have already ended. But the case is progressing.”
He said a “very big number” have been interviewed but the team has yet to find the person Brueckner spoke to on the phone around the time Madeleine went missing. He added: “We’ve found no evidence to clear Mr Brueckner of suspicion. Everything we’ve found fits in the picture. We’re perhaps halfway through.”
Defending the decision not to show the McCanns the evidence that leads prosecutors to believe Madeleine is dead, he said: “If I did ...is very possible that they would then no longer have any hope.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prosecutor-100-convinced-25173564
EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann prosecutor 100% convinced Christian B abducted and murdered her
Madeleine McCann prosecutors say they have no body and no DNA but other evidence leads to only one conclusion - jailed rapist Christian Brueckner is guilty and could be charged next year
ByMartin Fricker, in Braunschweig, Germany
21:36, 8 Oct 2021Updated22:41, 9 Oct 2021
Investigators are “100% sure” sex offender Christian Brueckner murdered Madeleine McCann.
They have the evidence to charge him and hope the probe will conclude next year.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We’re confident we have the man who took and killed her.”
Prosecutors investigating paedophile Christian Brueckner on suspicion of murdering Madeleine McCann are certain of his guilt and determined to build the strongest possible case against him.
They believe they have the evidence to charge the 44-year-old and it has “100% convinced” them that he killed her.
And they hope to be able to bring charges next year.
But as Brueckner is already in jail for separate offences the team are taking time to gather as much evidence as possible before bringing it to court.
Speaking exclusively to the Mirror, German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.
“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.
“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.
“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue. I’m not saying that what we have is insufficient now. But he’s in prison, so we don’t have this pressure on us. We have time on our hands.”
However, the prosecutors now admit they have no proof Madeleine is dead – despite authorities in Braunschweig telling the McCanns last year that they had “evidence” she is no longer alive.
Mr Wolters said they have no idea how she died and no DNA or photo evidence linking the German sex offender to the alleged murder. Addressing Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, he said: “We are confident we have the man who took and killed your daughter.”
“All I can do is ask for your patience. I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion.
“I can’t tell you on which basis we assume she is dead. But for us, there’s no other possibility. There is no hope she is alive.”
Madeleine vanished from her family’s holiday flat at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007, days before her fourth birthday. Kate and Gerry of Rothley, Leics, have said they “hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again”.
Evidence being investigated includes a “confession” Brueckner made to a pal and phone analysis showing he was at the Ocean Club when the toddler vanished. Mr Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.”
Brueckner was living in a camper van close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. UK and German police first became aware of him as a suspect in 2017 but only went public with it last June. Senior investigators have spoken to potential key witnesses in Germany and Portugal.
Mr Wolters dismissed as “rubbish” a recent report that the probe will end by Christmas, but said it is likely Brueckner will be charged early next year with other alleged offences in Portugal.
They include the rape of an Irish woman in the Algarve in 2004 and two incidents where he allegedly flashed at youngsters.
Asked if he was happy with the pace of the Madeleine probe, Mr Wolters said: “It could have gone better. Of course we hoped we’d get such good tip-offs that the investigation might have already ended. But the case is progressing.”
He said a “very big number” have been interviewed but the team has yet to find the person Brueckner spoke to on the phone around the time Madeleine went missing. He added: “We’ve found no evidence to clear Mr Brueckner of suspicion. Everything we’ve found fits in the picture. We’re perhaps halfway through.”
Defending the decision not to show the McCanns the evidence that leads prosecutors to believe Madeleine is dead, he said: “If I did ...is very possible that they would then no longer have any hope.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prosecutor-100-convinced-25173564
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I want the snail as wallpaper.
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Herr Walters should make a full public apology for telling lies, he had enough to say about Brueckner being the kidnapper and murderer of Madeleine.
He should be sacked for bringing the German justice department into disrepute.
He's being silent enough now, they couldn't shut him up before, get him on TV now and see what he has to say about his concrete evidence.
Still waiting to fall off my chair.
He should be sacked for bringing the German justice department into disrepute.
He's being silent enough now, they couldn't shut him up before, get him on TV now and see what he has to say about his concrete evidence.
Still waiting to fall off my chair.
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I agree - how has he got away with this bs? He'll probably be retired because of 'stress'. He's a disgrace.
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What about the Oprah Winfrey Show - that's a tell all warts n'all type show isn't it ?
He's also been seen on one or three of the more recent documentaries. I don't like that unveiled smirk that appears around his chops and the slight glint of the eye.
Something of the night about him
Astounds me that there are still people out there - and quite possibly in here, who are sucked in by Wolter's bizarre claims. They still believe he has something big (?) and is waiting for the right time to reveal all.
The mind boggleth.
He's also been seen on one or three of the more recent documentaries. I don't like that unveiled smirk that appears around his chops and the slight glint of the eye.
Something of the night about him
Astounds me that there are still people out there - and quite possibly in here, who are sucked in by Wolter's bizarre claims. They still believe he has something big (?) and is waiting for the right time to reveal all.
The mind boggleth.
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CaKeLoveR wrote:I want the snail as wallpaper.
That's easy enough if a static Mr Snail will suffice.
Not sure about animated, in motion, I'm not qualified in advanced nerderie. Animated gifs don't like being moved about too much - sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
A trucking Mr Snail doesn't work for me as wallpaper, not so far - not to say it's impossible.
Or maybe you were joking
I'm going out .... I might be some time
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