Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
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Madeleine McCann snatched by accomplice who sold her to suspect, prosecutor suggests
When German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters was asked by Portugal TV investigator Sandra Felgueiras if Madeleine McCann was sold to Christian Brueckner, he replied 'Maybe, it’s a possibility'
ByAlahna KindredNews Reporter
15:43, 7 May 2022
Madeleine McCann was kidnapped by an accomplice and sold to the main suspect, a prosecutor building the case against him has suggested.
Paedophile Christian Brueckner is currently serving a seven-year jail term for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz, the Portuguese resort from which Madeleine went missing in 2007.
Last month, the 45-year-old was made an "arguido" - which translates as "named suspect", "formal suspect" or "person of interest" - by Portuguese authorities in the disappearance of little Madeleine.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told Portugal TV investigator Sandra Felgueiras he could not comment on the speculation.
When she pressed Mr Wolters on if Madeleine was sold to the suspect, he replied "Maybe, it’s a possibility."
Madeleine disappeared in May 2007 from an apartment during a family holiday.
Brueckner denies having any involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine.
This week it emerged that Brueckner is now reportedly writing a "bestseller" behind bars at a high-security prison in Oldenburg, northwest Germany, the Olive Press reports.
The Spanish news outlet says a six-page letter was written to an American blogger by the suspect where he insists his book will be a "bestseller" better than any John Grisham novel.
Brueckner also allegedly wrote he was the world's most famous German, adding that "Hitler was Austrian".
Brueckner was named an "arguido" by Portuguese authorities last month, in a move that is said to be linked to the 15th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.
This has important legal ramifications, because whilst in Germany there is no time limit for a murder charge, in Portugal, there is a strict 15-year limit.
He was first named in the summer of 2020 as a prime suspect by German police after mobile phone records placed him in Praia da Luz on the night Maddie vanished.
But despite further extensive inquiries he has never been charged.
Recently, the Portuguese authorities confirmed that they will continue their inquiries amid reports that Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange investigation will be wound up this autumn.
Brueckner also still faces charges for the rape of an Irish national in Portugal in 2004.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-snatched-accomplice-who-26900867
When German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters was asked by Portugal TV investigator Sandra Felgueiras if Madeleine McCann was sold to Christian Brueckner, he replied 'Maybe, it’s a possibility'
ByAlahna KindredNews Reporter
15:43, 7 May 2022
Madeleine McCann was kidnapped by an accomplice and sold to the main suspect, a prosecutor building the case against him has suggested.
Paedophile Christian Brueckner is currently serving a seven-year jail term for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz, the Portuguese resort from which Madeleine went missing in 2007.
Last month, the 45-year-old was made an "arguido" - which translates as "named suspect", "formal suspect" or "person of interest" - by Portuguese authorities in the disappearance of little Madeleine.
German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told Portugal TV investigator Sandra Felgueiras he could not comment on the speculation.
When she pressed Mr Wolters on if Madeleine was sold to the suspect, he replied "Maybe, it’s a possibility."
Madeleine disappeared in May 2007 from an apartment during a family holiday.
Brueckner denies having any involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine.
This week it emerged that Brueckner is now reportedly writing a "bestseller" behind bars at a high-security prison in Oldenburg, northwest Germany, the Olive Press reports.
The Spanish news outlet says a six-page letter was written to an American blogger by the suspect where he insists his book will be a "bestseller" better than any John Grisham novel.
Brueckner also allegedly wrote he was the world's most famous German, adding that "Hitler was Austrian".
Brueckner was named an "arguido" by Portuguese authorities last month, in a move that is said to be linked to the 15th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.
This has important legal ramifications, because whilst in Germany there is no time limit for a murder charge, in Portugal, there is a strict 15-year limit.
He was first named in the summer of 2020 as a prime suspect by German police after mobile phone records placed him in Praia da Luz on the night Maddie vanished.
But despite further extensive inquiries he has never been charged.
Recently, the Portuguese authorities confirmed that they will continue their inquiries amid reports that Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange investigation will be wound up this autumn.
Brueckner also still faces charges for the rape of an Irish national in Portugal in 2004.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-snatched-accomplice-who-26900867
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
The present frenzy of speculation has exposed that NO ONE actually has any idea of what might have happened
given the tight limits of time and place imposed by the McCanns' and the Tapas' statements.
As questions start to be asked, the Abduction acolytes are resorting to ever more creative writing.
From Abducted - but we don't know how or when or why – we are now back to Snatched and Sold.
And then from Abducted and Killed, we move unaccountably to Snatched, Sold and Killed.
Not long before Woke and Wandered, and Clarke's deep Trench make a reappearance.
And suddenly there must have been an Accomplice.
HINT: There is no evidence even of ONE abductor. Still even less of TWO.
Unless, just possibly, the person who did remove her from the apartment was assisted in some way by an accomplice who perhaps held the tennis bag bag open, or cradled the little lifeless body for the last time holding it tight against the T shirt and trousers which took on the scent of cadaverine . . .
Ludicrous of course. There would need to be evidence for that. Oh, Err !
EDITED TO ADD:
The idea of two abductors, or one being lookout or "taking notes' [ Kate M] was specifically looked at by the PJ during their detailed analysis of the phone records and pings.
"The CD issued by Ministerio Publico de Portimao in July 2008, contains a great deal of information on the mobile calls made and received by the 'Tapas 9' but it is dispersed, difficult to retrieve and with important pages and charts missing. The main documents of interest from the CD are:
* A 3 page report by the Policia Judiaria (undated, but probably 4th May 2007) listing call records retrieved from the handsets of Mr and Mrs McCann
* A detailed (and excellent report) by Inspector Paulo Dias, Inspector of UNI-Sector de An'ise, Lisbon, dated 9th November 2007
* Schedules provided by Vodafone on 14th December 2007 covering a period from 29th April 2007 for Gerald McCann, David Payne, Rachael Mampilly, broken into four separate sections for incoming and outgoing telephone calls, incoming and outgoing SMS traffic
* A second report by Inspector Dias dated 5th February 2008, containing time bars, link charts and maps pinpointing where the 'Tapas 9's' sets were when they activated antennae
* A third report by Inspector Dias dated 2nd June 2008 which includes details of activations of the Luz and other mobile antenna from 28th April 2007 to September 2007
* The Rogatory Letter requests and correspondence dated from 5th December 2007 to May 2007 and responses from the Home Office in April and May 2008
The PJ used a program, called the 'Analyst's Notebook' as well as 'Excel' to handle what were very large datasets. Inspector Dias pointed out that 'Excel' was far from ideal, because of its limited capacity and it seems that much of the data provided was paper based and had to be rekeyed. Also the main focus of the research was limited to the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007.
But, despite the problems, the PJ's work is impressive, innovative and very detailed.
For example, there is a brilliant analysis (which unfortunately led nowhere) based on the hypothesis of two abductors
each working with mobiles in the Ocean Club area immediately before Madeleine was reported missing.
There is another excellent piece of work which tracks down a misrouted call, from Swansea, to Kate McCann at 11.21 on Wednesday 2nd May 2007.
given the tight limits of time and place imposed by the McCanns' and the Tapas' statements.
As questions start to be asked, the Abduction acolytes are resorting to ever more creative writing.
From Abducted - but we don't know how or when or why – we are now back to Snatched and Sold.
And then from Abducted and Killed, we move unaccountably to Snatched, Sold and Killed.
Not long before Woke and Wandered, and Clarke's deep Trench make a reappearance.
And suddenly there must have been an Accomplice.
HINT: There is no evidence even of ONE abductor. Still even less of TWO.
Unless, just possibly, the person who did remove her from the apartment was assisted in some way by an accomplice who perhaps held the tennis bag bag open, or cradled the little lifeless body for the last time holding it tight against the T shirt and trousers which took on the scent of cadaverine . . .
Ludicrous of course. There would need to be evidence for that. Oh, Err !
EDITED TO ADD:
The idea of two abductors, or one being lookout or "taking notes' [ Kate M] was specifically looked at by the PJ during their detailed analysis of the phone records and pings.
"The CD issued by Ministerio Publico de Portimao in July 2008, contains a great deal of information on the mobile calls made and received by the 'Tapas 9' but it is dispersed, difficult to retrieve and with important pages and charts missing. The main documents of interest from the CD are:
* A 3 page report by the Policia Judiaria (undated, but probably 4th May 2007) listing call records retrieved from the handsets of Mr and Mrs McCann
* A detailed (and excellent report) by Inspector Paulo Dias, Inspector of UNI-Sector de An'ise, Lisbon, dated 9th November 2007
* Schedules provided by Vodafone on 14th December 2007 covering a period from 29th April 2007 for Gerald McCann, David Payne, Rachael Mampilly, broken into four separate sections for incoming and outgoing telephone calls, incoming and outgoing SMS traffic
* A second report by Inspector Dias dated 5th February 2008, containing time bars, link charts and maps pinpointing where the 'Tapas 9's' sets were when they activated antennae
* A third report by Inspector Dias dated 2nd June 2008 which includes details of activations of the Luz and other mobile antenna from 28th April 2007 to September 2007
* The Rogatory Letter requests and correspondence dated from 5th December 2007 to May 2007 and responses from the Home Office in April and May 2008
The PJ used a program, called the 'Analyst's Notebook' as well as 'Excel' to handle what were very large datasets. Inspector Dias pointed out that 'Excel' was far from ideal, because of its limited capacity and it seems that much of the data provided was paper based and had to be rekeyed. Also the main focus of the research was limited to the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007.
But, despite the problems, the PJ's work is impressive, innovative and very detailed.
For example, there is a brilliant analysis (which unfortunately led nowhere) based on the hypothesis of two abductors
each working with mobiles in the Ocean Club area immediately before Madeleine was reported missing.
There is another excellent piece of work which tracks down a misrouted call, from Swansea, to Kate McCann at 11.21 on Wednesday 2nd May 2007.
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Perhaps it was Gerry who was the accomplice or as Kate told Yvonne Warren the social worker, "A couple had taken Madeleine"
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definitely snatch-gate!
well why read crap, that is said 'crap' i have to pay for, just let make my own. as a well educated person, who got the first experience in writing a fantastic story from just one word given by our teachers at the age of 8. i can do it too.
we have a old family tradition, that you have to work in 12 different fields of work before are 65. i am reaching into number 10 at the moment, one of my formers existed in actually writing crap, and we did it with a team up of 3 people. everything had to be fake and utter crap, absolutely nothing had to be true, only to prove very early on, how you got out complete and utter fake news and fake information out in a believable way. i must confess it was easy at the start, but i have gotten into finding respect to the people who has to deliver it on a regulair base. a one off is not hard, but keeping it coming and coming, with those horrible dead lines, an editor that want more, and more, hotter, and better, time after time, is pretty hard work. i could not get it beyond just over 2 months.
my head already asked 'why!', already after the second one. and there are not even pills that kept that voice in your head out. this case already had proven, that not everyone have such a voice in their head, so the crap is stilling oozing out. day after day, some little pauses, but it will come back.
is there even an answer to that 'why are you doing it ?' question other than ego, fame and money?
it also shows how lazy people are, you could just look for yourself what is said, you can read up all official files about this case, and still people pay to read crap, and today's standard is even sunken a lot deeper . so to be nice, lets just make some more crap for free. you do not even have to pay in the form of to become influenced by adverts, or got it into your ai profile, that will follow you around for years.
the stupid thing is, even if you very well know you read utter crap, your mind still made a fool of it. try it yourself on my utter crap production below. set your mantra to keep you sane inside voices on hold, and look where you got into a story that is still utter crap. when do you start reading with interest? when does it get the feel it could be a real story, even if your mind says no, i picked enough that relates to things we know, it is still crap.
it is just the magic of words, that is what still sells tabloids, the words are kind to our minds, and they eat them, even if you do not want them. give it some pictures and lay out and you can write just what you want, and it will grow everywhere.
for us it was a nice experiment long time ago. but also it opened our own eyes how simple it was. we even did go into making all comments, nice and not nice.
but i still have no idea why you want to do this under the pretense of this is real news, it is truly hard work to do. the public wants it,that it rubbish, too easy. how did this type of work ever made it into this mass production. but have a nice read, welcome to the not real world of fake news. from just on simple word; maybe!
by mister crap, your very own star reporter of the daily crap.
may 9, 2022
after a first patient was found positiv in spain, that tested positive for the new snatch-microbe, it spread very widely and quickly all over europe. there are already seen outbreaks in portugal, but those are stil minor, the uk had gotten it into a full epidemically emergency. there are already rumors of carriers that are walking around in germany.
this microbe of unknown origine looks to be easily spread by keyboards and traditional paper. it looks so far not restricted to infect a very specific part of the population, but could infect easily through all age groups, it looks that the population born after 2007 are a little bit less prone get infected. and with a lesser degree of symptoms.
the first lab results do show it is a the result of man handling on a large scale, it has some bits of the first in the uk found microbe jonisitus ciensis, that in the last decennia only was restricted to a persistant, but very small endemic outbreak in the regions around ronda in spain. in a later stage of evolution it must have taken some genetic markers from the organism sandriccus feleriencis, but there is still no full consensus, if hansicus c. wolterianus has a destinctive role in the outbreak, some see it only as a artificial find. the doubt is mostly in the question if hansicus c. wolterianus is needed as a catalyst and has to be there.
jonisitus c. on its own is usually seen as harmless, had no large spread, and was far lesser able to transmission on a large scale. the medium used to mendle both microbes is known, but will kept out of the eye of the public, because it is a much used medium, and it would not assist in bringing this epidemic to a halt, when the public got the medium boycotted, or start in a more massive use of it.
the early signs something was happening by jonisitus c. came out just over a week ago. it was just restricted to rumors about unspecified dna, after that we got a far smaller outbreak of fiberitis unconclusives, but all experts did agree it was not one who was even a problem in humans. it still needed a next step into become a fast spreading and very transmissible disease. researches working around the clock have placed the merging of both microbes at its earliest moment in the last days of april, and the first week of may this year.
last year there was already a small outbreak of a snatch microbe, but it had a very distinct source than the actual microbe is. the research work done at that time, brought sandriccus f. under focus, but it is not clear if it is just again the result of the genes of this microbe itself again, or indeed a lesser body like poli juri.
most infected are seen in and around london, with lesser number from the rest of the uk. but cases had been found all over europe, and the first rumors about spreading throughout australia and the usa, and even south africa have still a need of confirmation.
there are the first rumors, there are possible vaccins already out there that could cure this disease. experts had already did some research, the so called twitter vaccine does not work better than any placebo, it was tested against. the facebook vaccine only looks to work in very specific parts of society, the most promising vaccine looks to be cmomm2009, made by the havern company in the uk, and that is already available in the market for research purposes. people already injected with it have a protection rate of around 80%.
it would not protect to the confrontation with this microbe, and the results from that everywhere around in society, but it is still the most promising vaccine on offer today.
even as early in this epidemic the first opposition against the cmomm2009 vaccine are making some bizz on social media, experts already have send letters to the government, that it would not work very effective, when the public is given a voluntary choice to take this vaccine, the campaign would so much more effective when it became a duty to take it.
it is of course not a traditional vaccine, modern techniques have been incorporated into the cmomm2009 vaccine, so people could easily getting acces, from home or even their phones, and take a daily dose to protect them.
preliminary research gives reason to believe this cmomm2009 vaccine can protect on a very good level to the whole group of microbes of this same family, the snatch microbe is a member of.
experts ask the population to still be very careful, the microbe has a very high chance of mutations, there could be found new smaller or even larger and more dangerous mutations any day of the week they told us, they do not know all about the original microbe, or what it exactly want, it does look out to be a case, the organism itself is not very consistent, mutates easily, and is very competent in picking up some genes of other organisms.
symptoms of infections so far are;
an urge to write, loss of attention span, being tired, more than usual, dry eyes, addiction to read crap, irritability surges, and thirst. also is seen a extreme feeling of deja vu. even a complete loss of reality is already seen in some people.
the respons of the government is still a bit careful, but it was said there is an operation under way to concur this disease. we are all in it, was heard, but could not be contributed to a known speaker of the government. it was heard, as far as we are told by a source during a business related moment in the gardens behind a no. 10, somewhere in london.
well why read crap, that is said 'crap' i have to pay for, just let make my own. as a well educated person, who got the first experience in writing a fantastic story from just one word given by our teachers at the age of 8. i can do it too.
we have a old family tradition, that you have to work in 12 different fields of work before are 65. i am reaching into number 10 at the moment, one of my formers existed in actually writing crap, and we did it with a team up of 3 people. everything had to be fake and utter crap, absolutely nothing had to be true, only to prove very early on, how you got out complete and utter fake news and fake information out in a believable way. i must confess it was easy at the start, but i have gotten into finding respect to the people who has to deliver it on a regulair base. a one off is not hard, but keeping it coming and coming, with those horrible dead lines, an editor that want more, and more, hotter, and better, time after time, is pretty hard work. i could not get it beyond just over 2 months.
my head already asked 'why!', already after the second one. and there are not even pills that kept that voice in your head out. this case already had proven, that not everyone have such a voice in their head, so the crap is stilling oozing out. day after day, some little pauses, but it will come back.
is there even an answer to that 'why are you doing it ?' question other than ego, fame and money?
it also shows how lazy people are, you could just look for yourself what is said, you can read up all official files about this case, and still people pay to read crap, and today's standard is even sunken a lot deeper . so to be nice, lets just make some more crap for free. you do not even have to pay in the form of to become influenced by adverts, or got it into your ai profile, that will follow you around for years.
the stupid thing is, even if you very well know you read utter crap, your mind still made a fool of it. try it yourself on my utter crap production below. set your mantra to keep you sane inside voices on hold, and look where you got into a story that is still utter crap. when do you start reading with interest? when does it get the feel it could be a real story, even if your mind says no, i picked enough that relates to things we know, it is still crap.
it is just the magic of words, that is what still sells tabloids, the words are kind to our minds, and they eat them, even if you do not want them. give it some pictures and lay out and you can write just what you want, and it will grow everywhere.
for us it was a nice experiment long time ago. but also it opened our own eyes how simple it was. we even did go into making all comments, nice and not nice.
but i still have no idea why you want to do this under the pretense of this is real news, it is truly hard work to do. the public wants it,that it rubbish, too easy. how did this type of work ever made it into this mass production. but have a nice read, welcome to the not real world of fake news. from just on simple word; maybe!
new outbreak , maybe underway!
by mister crap, your very own star reporter of the daily crap.
may 9, 2022
after a first patient was found positiv in spain, that tested positive for the new snatch-microbe, it spread very widely and quickly all over europe. there are already seen outbreaks in portugal, but those are stil minor, the uk had gotten it into a full epidemically emergency. there are already rumors of carriers that are walking around in germany.
this microbe of unknown origine looks to be easily spread by keyboards and traditional paper. it looks so far not restricted to infect a very specific part of the population, but could infect easily through all age groups, it looks that the population born after 2007 are a little bit less prone get infected. and with a lesser degree of symptoms.
the first lab results do show it is a the result of man handling on a large scale, it has some bits of the first in the uk found microbe jonisitus ciensis, that in the last decennia only was restricted to a persistant, but very small endemic outbreak in the regions around ronda in spain. in a later stage of evolution it must have taken some genetic markers from the organism sandriccus feleriencis, but there is still no full consensus, if hansicus c. wolterianus has a destinctive role in the outbreak, some see it only as a artificial find. the doubt is mostly in the question if hansicus c. wolterianus is needed as a catalyst and has to be there.
jonisitus c. on its own is usually seen as harmless, had no large spread, and was far lesser able to transmission on a large scale. the medium used to mendle both microbes is known, but will kept out of the eye of the public, because it is a much used medium, and it would not assist in bringing this epidemic to a halt, when the public got the medium boycotted, or start in a more massive use of it.
the early signs something was happening by jonisitus c. came out just over a week ago. it was just restricted to rumors about unspecified dna, after that we got a far smaller outbreak of fiberitis unconclusives, but all experts did agree it was not one who was even a problem in humans. it still needed a next step into become a fast spreading and very transmissible disease. researches working around the clock have placed the merging of both microbes at its earliest moment in the last days of april, and the first week of may this year.
last year there was already a small outbreak of a snatch microbe, but it had a very distinct source than the actual microbe is. the research work done at that time, brought sandriccus f. under focus, but it is not clear if it is just again the result of the genes of this microbe itself again, or indeed a lesser body like poli juri.
most infected are seen in and around london, with lesser number from the rest of the uk. but cases had been found all over europe, and the first rumors about spreading throughout australia and the usa, and even south africa have still a need of confirmation.
there are the first rumors, there are possible vaccins already out there that could cure this disease. experts had already did some research, the so called twitter vaccine does not work better than any placebo, it was tested against. the facebook vaccine only looks to work in very specific parts of society, the most promising vaccine looks to be cmomm2009, made by the havern company in the uk, and that is already available in the market for research purposes. people already injected with it have a protection rate of around 80%.
it would not protect to the confrontation with this microbe, and the results from that everywhere around in society, but it is still the most promising vaccine on offer today.
even as early in this epidemic the first opposition against the cmomm2009 vaccine are making some bizz on social media, experts already have send letters to the government, that it would not work very effective, when the public is given a voluntary choice to take this vaccine, the campaign would so much more effective when it became a duty to take it.
it is of course not a traditional vaccine, modern techniques have been incorporated into the cmomm2009 vaccine, so people could easily getting acces, from home or even their phones, and take a daily dose to protect them.
preliminary research gives reason to believe this cmomm2009 vaccine can protect on a very good level to the whole group of microbes of this same family, the snatch microbe is a member of.
experts ask the population to still be very careful, the microbe has a very high chance of mutations, there could be found new smaller or even larger and more dangerous mutations any day of the week they told us, they do not know all about the original microbe, or what it exactly want, it does look out to be a case, the organism itself is not very consistent, mutates easily, and is very competent in picking up some genes of other organisms.
symptoms of infections so far are;
an urge to write, loss of attention span, being tired, more than usual, dry eyes, addiction to read crap, irritability surges, and thirst. also is seen a extreme feeling of deja vu. even a complete loss of reality is already seen in some people.
the respons of the government is still a bit careful, but it was said there is an operation under way to concur this disease. we are all in it, was heard, but could not be contributed to a known speaker of the government. it was heard, as far as we are told by a source during a business related moment in the gardens behind a no. 10, somewhere in london.
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
I look forward to the day I never have to hear the name Christian Brueckner nor see his ugly mug ever again.
It has been reasonably proven that Christian Brueckner is not connected in any way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - in any way shape or form. Above all else, by the former Portuguese senior police officer Gonçalo Amaral who, I can say with confidence, is in a better position to investigate and comment on the allegations than any one else.
I post-up all the UK news reports for posterity, nothing else.
Kate McCann questioned investigation into 'German paedophiles’ in Maddie hunt 10 YEARS ago
KATE MCCANN, the mother of missing Madeleine McCann, questioned whether investigations into "German paedophiles" had been thorough enough during a book she wrote a decade ago.
By Callum Hoare
08:42, Thu, Jul 30, 2020 | UPDATED: 09:22, Mon, Aug 3, 2020
The youngster disappeared just days before her fourth birthday while sleeping in Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, as her parents ate dinner at a tapas restaurant just metres away with their seven friends on May 3, 2007. Yesterday, in what was described as a “chilling” development in the 13-year-long case, German media reported that police searching a property believed to have been used by their prime suspect had found a hidden cellar. It came after three days of relentless excavations of the secluded holiday chalet in Seelze, outside Hanover, using ground-penetrating radar, sniffer dogs and a drone in their desperate hunt for crucial evidence against prime suspect Christian B.
Last month prosecutors in Germany revealed a heartbreaking twist to the investigation, announcing that Maddie is “assumed to be dead” and they have opened a murder investigation into the 43-year-old convicted sex offender.
In 2011, Kate McCann published ‘Madeleine: Our daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her’ on Maddie’s eighth birthday in the hope it may trigger someone to come forward with new information.
Inside it though, she questions whether investigations into German, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British paedophiles had been thorough enough.
She wrote: “Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and the horrific crimes they committed.”
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The youngster disappeared just days before her fourth birthday while sleeping in Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, as her parents ate dinner at a tapas restaurant just metres away with their seven friends on May 3, 2007. Yesterday, in what was described as a “chilling” development in the 13-year-long case, German media reported that police searching a property believed to have been used by their prime suspect had found a hidden cellar. It came after three days of relentless excavations of the secluded holiday chalet in Seelze, outside Hanover, using ground-penetrating radar, sniffer dogs and a drone in their desperate hunt for crucial evidence against prime suspect Christian B.
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Last month prosecutors in Germany revealed a heartbreaking twist to the investigation, announcing that Maddie is “assumed to be dead” and they have opened a murder investigation into the 43-year-old convicted sex offender.
In 2011, Kate McCann published ‘Madeleine: Our daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her’ on Maddie’s eighth birthday in the hope it may trigger someone to come forward with new information.
Inside it though, she questions whether investigations into German, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British paedophiles had been thorough enough.
She wrote: “Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and the horrific crimes they committed.”
Kate McCann raised questions in hunt for her daughter
Kate McCann raised questions in hunt for her daughter (Image: GETTY/PA)
Police searched an allotment in Hanover
Police searched an allotment in Hanover (Image: GETTY)
Police had reportedly visited known sex offenders in the area at the height of the investigation and looked around their apartments in search for Maddie – reporting “no sign of the minor”.
But Kate MCann asked whether this was good enough to “eliminate these vile characters” from the investigations.
She also probed whether Portuguese police had done enough in regards to sexual crimes in the Algarve in the run-up to Maddie’s disappearance, claiming that British families had reported intruders in their children’s rooms.
Last week, during the new ITV documentary ‘Madeleine McCann: The Hunt for the Prime Suspect’ presenter Julie Etchingham investigated why it had taken more than 13 years to link the new prime suspect to the case, claiming that British assistance in the case was “unwelcome” at the start.
A former detective with Surrey Police, Graham Hill, who flew to Portugal in 2007 to help on the case, said: “It became very frustrating, I sent lots of verbal and written reports back to London about the difficulties we were experiencing.
“After just over a week we decided that, actually, it probably wasn’t serving any purpose for us to remain there and we returned back to the UK.”
Ms Etchingham revealed how a “vital piece of evidence” was then found in a potential breakthrough.
She said: “But not before one vital piece of evidence was gathered by the Portuguese – a log of all the phone calls that had been made in the area on the evening Madeleine vanished.”
Mr Hill explained why the phone call logs could be so useful.
He added: “The call site analysis will tell you what phone numbers have used what particular masts in the area.
“And if those phones are registered to someone, it will give you the registered details of that person and that phone.
"There are all sorts of things you can do with cell site analysis, but you have to have the data to do something in the first place.”
Ms Etchingham then claimed this vital piece of evidence could have linked the new prime suspect to the case 13 years ago.
She added: “While investigators pursued other suspects, what no one realised was that, hidden amongst the thousands of numbers, was one that belonged to a convicted sex offender who had once lived less than two miles from where the McCanns were staying.”
In June, an appeal for information was made by British, Portuguese and German police regarding the new prime suspect who was seen driving a camper van in the area of Praia da Luz around the time of the disappearance and a 30-minute call made to his phone in the area where Maddie vanished.
A phone allegedly belonging to Christian B was "pinged" by a cell phone tower in Praia da Luz, close to where Madeleine disappeared, on the night she went missing.
The mystery call was received on a mobile phone that is believed to belong to the suspect at 7.32pm and finished at 8.02pm.
Madeleine was last seen at 9.05pm, when her father Gerry McCann checked the room and left via the unlocked patio doors.
The series also probed why more questions were not asked by the Portuguese police of Christian B, a known criminal working in the area who was arrested for theft just one year before Maddie disappeared.
It was not until June this year that investigators would make an appeal for information regarding his campervan and the suspects other vehicle, a Jaguar, which was transferred to someone else’s name the day after Maddie vanished.
Authorities linked the suspect to an early Eighties VW T3 Westfalia campervan – with a white upper body and yellow skirting, registered in Portugal – which was pictured in the Algarve in 2007.
Scotland Yard said he was driving the vehicle in the Praia da Luz area in the days before Maddie's disappearance and is believed to have been living in it for days or weeks before and after May 3.
The suspect has also been linked to a 1993 Jaguar XJR6 with a German number plate seen in Praia da Luz and surrounding areas in 2006 and 2007.
Relations between officials investigating the case have also become strained as Scotland Yard continues to treat their investigation as a “missing persons” case and stated that German authorities have not revealed evidence that Maddie is dead.
Police in Portugal have also been searching wells in Vila do Bispo – just a 10-minute drive from the Ocean Club resort Maddie vanished from – but authorities in Germany and Britain are unaware of what prompted the new investigation.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1316258/kate-mccann-madeleine-disappearance-german-suspect-allotment-cellar-hanover-maddie-spt
It has been reasonably proven that Christian Brueckner is not connected in any way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - in any way shape or form. Above all else, by the former Portuguese senior police officer Gonçalo Amaral who, I can say with confidence, is in a better position to investigate and comment on the allegations than any one else.
I post-up all the UK news reports for posterity, nothing else.
Kate McCann questioned investigation into 'German paedophiles’ in Maddie hunt 10 YEARS ago
KATE MCCANN, the mother of missing Madeleine McCann, questioned whether investigations into "German paedophiles" had been thorough enough during a book she wrote a decade ago.
By Callum Hoare
08:42, Thu, Jul 30, 2020 | UPDATED: 09:22, Mon, Aug 3, 2020
The youngster disappeared just days before her fourth birthday while sleeping in Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, as her parents ate dinner at a tapas restaurant just metres away with their seven friends on May 3, 2007. Yesterday, in what was described as a “chilling” development in the 13-year-long case, German media reported that police searching a property believed to have been used by their prime suspect had found a hidden cellar. It came after three days of relentless excavations of the secluded holiday chalet in Seelze, outside Hanover, using ground-penetrating radar, sniffer dogs and a drone in their desperate hunt for crucial evidence against prime suspect Christian B.
Last month prosecutors in Germany revealed a heartbreaking twist to the investigation, announcing that Maddie is “assumed to be dead” and they have opened a murder investigation into the 43-year-old convicted sex offender.
In 2011, Kate McCann published ‘Madeleine: Our daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her’ on Maddie’s eighth birthday in the hope it may trigger someone to come forward with new information.
Inside it though, she questions whether investigations into German, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British paedophiles had been thorough enough.
She wrote: “Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and the horrific crimes they committed.”
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The youngster disappeared just days before her fourth birthday while sleeping in Apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, as her parents ate dinner at a tapas restaurant just metres away with their seven friends on May 3, 2007. Yesterday, in what was described as a “chilling” development in the 13-year-long case, German media reported that police searching a property believed to have been used by their prime suspect had found a hidden cellar. It came after three days of relentless excavations of the secluded holiday chalet in Seelze, outside Hanover, using ground-penetrating radar, sniffer dogs and a drone in their desperate hunt for crucial evidence against prime suspect Christian B.
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Last month prosecutors in Germany revealed a heartbreaking twist to the investigation, announcing that Maddie is “assumed to be dead” and they have opened a murder investigation into the 43-year-old convicted sex offender.
In 2011, Kate McCann published ‘Madeleine: Our daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her’ on Maddie’s eighth birthday in the hope it may trigger someone to come forward with new information.
Inside it though, she questions whether investigations into German, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British paedophiles had been thorough enough.
She wrote: “Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and the horrific crimes they committed.”
Kate McCann raised questions in hunt for her daughter
Kate McCann raised questions in hunt for her daughter (Image: GETTY/PA)
Police searched an allotment in Hanover
Police searched an allotment in Hanover (Image: GETTY)
Police had reportedly visited known sex offenders in the area at the height of the investigation and looked around their apartments in search for Maddie – reporting “no sign of the minor”.
But Kate MCann asked whether this was good enough to “eliminate these vile characters” from the investigations.
She also probed whether Portuguese police had done enough in regards to sexual crimes in the Algarve in the run-up to Maddie’s disappearance, claiming that British families had reported intruders in their children’s rooms.
Last week, during the new ITV documentary ‘Madeleine McCann: The Hunt for the Prime Suspect’ presenter Julie Etchingham investigated why it had taken more than 13 years to link the new prime suspect to the case, claiming that British assistance in the case was “unwelcome” at the start.
A former detective with Surrey Police, Graham Hill, who flew to Portugal in 2007 to help on the case, said: “It became very frustrating, I sent lots of verbal and written reports back to London about the difficulties we were experiencing.
“After just over a week we decided that, actually, it probably wasn’t serving any purpose for us to remain there and we returned back to the UK.”
Ms Etchingham revealed how a “vital piece of evidence” was then found in a potential breakthrough.
She said: “But not before one vital piece of evidence was gathered by the Portuguese – a log of all the phone calls that had been made in the area on the evening Madeleine vanished.”
Mr Hill explained why the phone call logs could be so useful.
He added: “The call site analysis will tell you what phone numbers have used what particular masts in the area.
“And if those phones are registered to someone, it will give you the registered details of that person and that phone.
"There are all sorts of things you can do with cell site analysis, but you have to have the data to do something in the first place.”
Ms Etchingham then claimed this vital piece of evidence could have linked the new prime suspect to the case 13 years ago.
She added: “While investigators pursued other suspects, what no one realised was that, hidden amongst the thousands of numbers, was one that belonged to a convicted sex offender who had once lived less than two miles from where the McCanns were staying.”
In June, an appeal for information was made by British, Portuguese and German police regarding the new prime suspect who was seen driving a camper van in the area of Praia da Luz around the time of the disappearance and a 30-minute call made to his phone in the area where Maddie vanished.
A phone allegedly belonging to Christian B was "pinged" by a cell phone tower in Praia da Luz, close to where Madeleine disappeared, on the night she went missing.
The mystery call was received on a mobile phone that is believed to belong to the suspect at 7.32pm and finished at 8.02pm.
Madeleine was last seen at 9.05pm, when her father Gerry McCann checked the room and left via the unlocked patio doors.
The series also probed why more questions were not asked by the Portuguese police of Christian B, a known criminal working in the area who was arrested for theft just one year before Maddie disappeared.
It was not until June this year that investigators would make an appeal for information regarding his campervan and the suspects other vehicle, a Jaguar, which was transferred to someone else’s name the day after Maddie vanished.
Authorities linked the suspect to an early Eighties VW T3 Westfalia campervan – with a white upper body and yellow skirting, registered in Portugal – which was pictured in the Algarve in 2007.
Scotland Yard said he was driving the vehicle in the Praia da Luz area in the days before Maddie's disappearance and is believed to have been living in it for days or weeks before and after May 3.
The suspect has also been linked to a 1993 Jaguar XJR6 with a German number plate seen in Praia da Luz and surrounding areas in 2006 and 2007.
Relations between officials investigating the case have also become strained as Scotland Yard continues to treat their investigation as a “missing persons” case and stated that German authorities have not revealed evidence that Maddie is dead.
Police in Portugal have also been searching wells in Vila do Bispo – just a 10-minute drive from the Ocean Club resort Maddie vanished from – but authorities in Germany and Britain are unaware of what prompted the new investigation.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1316258/kate-mccann-madeleine-disappearance-german-suspect-allotment-cellar-hanover-maddie-spt
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McCanns dealt horror blow as Germans slap down 'total nonsense' claim over Maddie case
MADELEINE McCann's parents have been told by German prosecutors that new evidence concerning a suspected kidnapper is 'total nonsense.'
By Charles Harrison, John Twomey
17:24, Fri, May 6, 2022 | UPDATED: 19:18, Fri, May 6, 2022
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1606566/madeleine-mcann-christian-b-suspect-evidence-latest
A horror blow ?
A horror blow to find out your precious missing daughter was not abducted and murdered by a German captive after all?
MADELEINE McCann's parents have been told by German prosecutors that new evidence concerning a suspected kidnapper is 'total nonsense.'
By Charles Harrison, John Twomey
17:24, Fri, May 6, 2022 | UPDATED: 19:18, Fri, May 6, 2022
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1606566/madeleine-mcann-christian-b-suspect-evidence-latest
A horror blow ?
A horror blow to find out your precious missing daughter was not abducted and murdered by a German captive after all?
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of course cb had not been anything in this case, the met has just spend the equivalent of 15 million euros of your tax money spend, into a effortless investigation into all people they were allowed to look into, and it is a shame they did not get any recognition for all that work.
none of this bunch could be proven to have a hand in this saga. 11 years on the clock and a bit still counting on, and all of those hundreds of leads are ending in zilch, nothing.
well if it had been my set of keys, that i could not find anywhere i already have looked, and i have a bit of memory left, and i start using that, i would maybe get a very small idea about a place i did not have been able to look before. and by just looking there, i maybe can find my keys.
it can not be that hard, every portuguese sardine muncher of a copper can do it, so for the best of britain, i would say, what are you waiting for?
none of this bunch could be proven to have a hand in this saga. 11 years on the clock and a bit still counting on, and all of those hundreds of leads are ending in zilch, nothing.
well if it had been my set of keys, that i could not find anywhere i already have looked, and i have a bit of memory left, and i start using that, i would maybe get a very small idea about a place i did not have been able to look before. and by just looking there, i maybe can find my keys.
it can not be that hard, every portuguese sardine muncher of a copper can do it, so for the best of britain, i would say, what are you waiting for?
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Madeleine McCann's abductor will go free as police have wrong man, expert claims
Ex-detective and TV sleuth Mark Williams-Thomas believes Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner is innocent and claims police have ignored his alibi, letting the guilty party go free
ByJerry Lawton
Ryan MerrifieldNews Reporter
08:13, 10 May 2022
There is no evidence that the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case was responsible for her disappearance, claims an investigator.
Ex-detective Mark Williams-Thomas says the then-toddler's real abductor will now likely get away with it due to the narrow-minded focus on Christian Brueckner.
As part of a new documentary, he set out to try and prove the German paedophile was guilty - but says he actually ended up clearing his name.
Sleuth Mr Williams-Thomas - who exposed Jimmy Savile in 2012 - said the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal in 2007 was always flawed, reports the Daily Star.
Last month Portuguese police made Brueckner, 45, an arguido - or formal suspect - allowing them to bypass the country's statute of limitations.
Christian Brueckner has been named as a suspect in Portugal and Germany ( Image:
Copyright unknown)
It states prosecutions for serious crimes cannot go ahead more than 15 years after the crime.
But it means if Brueckner is not the guilty party, the person actually responsible will never see justice.
Referring to the prosecution law, Mr Williams-Thomas said Brueckner was named as prime suspect "to get around this", adding: "I believe he is innocent."
The Met Police's own investigation into the toddler's case - Operation Grange - has cost £12million and has found neither Madeleine nor the culprit.
Mark Williams-Thomas believes Christian Brueckner is innocent ( Image:
SWNS)
German police, meanwhile, effectively publicly convicted Brueckner without evident or a trial, the TV detective said.
Mr Williams-Thomas' own probe features in Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B, on Wednesday evening (May 11).
He claims a phone which police say belonged to Brueckner and which was found outside the McCann's apartment in Praia da Luz an hour before Madeleine vanished was not actually his.
Cellsite analysis could only place whoever the mystery caller was within a 21-mile radius of the crime scene.
At the other end of the line was a paedophile police have never been able to trace, he said.
Brueckner has an alibi which he told Mr Williams-Thomas via a letter from prison.
He had spent the week with a 17-year-old German holidaymaker in his camper van in Carvoeiro, 40 minutes from the crime scene.
Mr Williams-Thomas tracked her down for the documentary and she backed up Brueckner’s claim.
She also said she was present when police searched the camper in the days after.
The woman said nothing was found and Brueckner's demeanour never altered.
She said he didn't appeared to know a girl was missing until investigators told him.
When Mr Williams-Thomas broke the news to German authorities he claims they dismissed it.
He said Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor heading the case, who last year publicly declared he was 100% sure Brueckner murdered Madeleine, lives in a parallel universe.
"No matter how horrible and nasty a person is we have to have the evidence to prosecute,’’ Mr Williams-Thomas said.
"Somebody’s previous offending does not make them responsible. That is not how the criminal justice system should work.
"I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences.
"But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
"They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.
"We know, having just abducted a child and murdered them, there would be a change of behaviour.
"Yet his then girlfriend said his demeanour never changed.’’
Williams-Thomas said he believed Brueckner had agreed to confide in him - rather than talking to police - because he fears he is effectively being "framed for the biggest crime in the world".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccanns-abductor-go-free-26920235
Clarke >>> <<< Williams-Thomas >>> Brueckner
Ex-detective and TV sleuth Mark Williams-Thomas believes Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner is innocent and claims police have ignored his alibi, letting the guilty party go free
ByJerry Lawton
Ryan MerrifieldNews Reporter
08:13, 10 May 2022
There is no evidence that the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case was responsible for her disappearance, claims an investigator.
Ex-detective Mark Williams-Thomas says the then-toddler's real abductor will now likely get away with it due to the narrow-minded focus on Christian Brueckner.
As part of a new documentary, he set out to try and prove the German paedophile was guilty - but says he actually ended up clearing his name.
Sleuth Mr Williams-Thomas - who exposed Jimmy Savile in 2012 - said the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal in 2007 was always flawed, reports the Daily Star.
Last month Portuguese police made Brueckner, 45, an arguido - or formal suspect - allowing them to bypass the country's statute of limitations.
Christian Brueckner has been named as a suspect in Portugal and Germany ( Image:
Copyright unknown)
It states prosecutions for serious crimes cannot go ahead more than 15 years after the crime.
But it means if Brueckner is not the guilty party, the person actually responsible will never see justice.
Referring to the prosecution law, Mr Williams-Thomas said Brueckner was named as prime suspect "to get around this", adding: "I believe he is innocent."
The Met Police's own investigation into the toddler's case - Operation Grange - has cost £12million and has found neither Madeleine nor the culprit.
Mark Williams-Thomas believes Christian Brueckner is innocent ( Image:
SWNS)
German police, meanwhile, effectively publicly convicted Brueckner without evident or a trial, the TV detective said.
Mr Williams-Thomas' own probe features in Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B, on Wednesday evening (May 11).
He claims a phone which police say belonged to Brueckner and which was found outside the McCann's apartment in Praia da Luz an hour before Madeleine vanished was not actually his.
Cellsite analysis could only place whoever the mystery caller was within a 21-mile radius of the crime scene.
At the other end of the line was a paedophile police have never been able to trace, he said.
Brueckner has an alibi which he told Mr Williams-Thomas via a letter from prison.
He had spent the week with a 17-year-old German holidaymaker in his camper van in Carvoeiro, 40 minutes from the crime scene.
Mr Williams-Thomas tracked her down for the documentary and she backed up Brueckner’s claim.
She also said she was present when police searched the camper in the days after.
The woman said nothing was found and Brueckner's demeanour never altered.
She said he didn't appeared to know a girl was missing until investigators told him.
When Mr Williams-Thomas broke the news to German authorities he claims they dismissed it.
He said Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor heading the case, who last year publicly declared he was 100% sure Brueckner murdered Madeleine, lives in a parallel universe.
"No matter how horrible and nasty a person is we have to have the evidence to prosecute,’’ Mr Williams-Thomas said.
"Somebody’s previous offending does not make them responsible. That is not how the criminal justice system should work.
"I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences.
"But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
"They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.
"We know, having just abducted a child and murdered them, there would be a change of behaviour.
"Yet his then girlfriend said his demeanour never changed.’’
Williams-Thomas said he believed Brueckner had agreed to confide in him - rather than talking to police - because he fears he is effectively being "framed for the biggest crime in the world".
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccanns-abductor-go-free-26920235
Clarke >>> <<< Williams-Thomas >>> Brueckner
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Madeleine McCann's real abductor will go free as Germans have wrong man, expert claims
EXCLUSIVE: British investigator Mark Williams-Thomas investigates paedo Christian Brueckner's guilt in a new Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B
ByJerry Lawton
22:00, 9 MAY 2022Updated10:40, 10 MAY 2022
EXCLUSIVE: British investigator Mark Williams-Thomas investigates paedo Christian Brueckner's guilt in a new Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B
ByJerry Lawton
22:00, 9 MAY 2022Updated10:40, 10 MAY 2022
In a letter from his jail cell he told Mr Williams-Thomas he spent the week romping with a 17-year-old German holidaymaker in his camper van in Carvoeiro - a 40-minute drive away from the crime scene.
When Mr Williams-Thomas tracked her down for the documentary she backed up Brueckner’s claim.
And she told Mr Williams-Thomas days after Madeleine vanished she was with Brueckner when his camper was searched at a roadblock manned by police hunting the youngster.
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So we now have a collateral conflict. A side show, which like many at the fair can be more interesting than the main event
Clarke -v- Wiliams-Thomas
Followers of Twitter may have spotted the evidence already.
Clarke lashing out and accusing MWT of having said and believed things which MWT denies and refutes.
Time for more popcorn
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and it is not fair, mwt has not even made into his own topic. jon c. had gotten that honour, o, by the way, if you are looking for some music with the popcorn, just take a peak overthere.
maybe it is a good moment to get these sidelines and spin offs, their own space, instead of mingling into the madeleine discussions. it does feel impossible to get those figures even a faint shine of credibility, or to be taken serious. i know a circus could have many different acts, but it looks like the clowns have taken over the complete mccann circus by now.
madeleine only be used as a coat rack to hang out bad media fights.
all nicely dosed in small parts, so they all could write every 3 days some fresh pulp fiction. so all others could use it as a source. they have to eat too! i think they reach even a turnover of 2 days at the moment.
there looks to no way around to see it the mwt production in realtime, so that would become scraping around for it in fragments. it would make it to you tube in the end of course, but i would love to see some notes.
maybe it is a good moment to get these sidelines and spin offs, their own space, instead of mingling into the madeleine discussions. it does feel impossible to get those figures even a faint shine of credibility, or to be taken serious. i know a circus could have many different acts, but it looks like the clowns have taken over the complete mccann circus by now.
madeleine only be used as a coat rack to hang out bad media fights.
all nicely dosed in small parts, so they all could write every 3 days some fresh pulp fiction. so all others could use it as a source. they have to eat too! i think they reach even a turnover of 2 days at the moment.
there looks to no way around to see it the mwt production in realtime, so that would become scraping around for it in fragments. it would make it to you tube in the end of course, but i would love to see some notes.
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onehand wrote:maybe it is a good moment to get these sidelines and spin offs, their own space, instead of mingling into the madeleine discussions.
Jon Clarke already has his own space here on CMOMM (quite a few spaces in truth), as does Brueckner (this thread) and there is a space for documentaries connected with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
I can initiate a thread dedicated to Mark Williams-Thomas documentary if interest demands, so far it doesn't - not that I can see.
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Verdi wrote,
I can initiate a thread dedicated to Mark Williams-Thomas documentary if interest demands, so far it doesn't - not that I can see.
It may do after it's been on tv tonight.
I can initiate a thread dedicated to Mark Williams-Thomas documentary if interest demands, so far it doesn't - not that I can see.
It may do after it's been on tv tonight.
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The blurb tells us that the case against him will be 'tested against verifiable facts'. Let's hope so.
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Against C.B., that is!
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Well the press have got him well wrapped up in glossy paper already - like you can rely on the press?
As days go by I'm more and more suspicious about Mark Williams-Thomas' motives, he made his public debut success by exposing (excuse the inference) Savile and his sexploits, some while ago I found the true source of Savile's exposé - and it wasn't Thomas as claimed.
One of the press reports I read in the last couple of days quotes Williams-Thomas as saying Brueckner, through correspondence, revealed a number of previously unknown crimes he'd committed but remains adamant he played no part in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
The revelation in itself is strange. If there has been correspondence between the two as claimed in the press, either they've got it wrong as usual or Brueckner is pulling Mark Williams-Thomas' plonker.
This is like an elaborate game of charades.
What's the point of spending time and money making a production for public viewing if only chasing a myth, to placate someone who has been implicated in a serious crime - allegedly. Another non-event on the horizon if you ask me.
Still, as you say, we shall see - or not as the case may be. .
As days go by I'm more and more suspicious about Mark Williams-Thomas' motives, he made his public debut success by exposing (excuse the inference) Savile and his sexploits, some while ago I found the true source of Savile's exposé - and it wasn't Thomas as claimed.
One of the press reports I read in the last couple of days quotes Williams-Thomas as saying Brueckner, through correspondence, revealed a number of previously unknown crimes he'd committed but remains adamant he played no part in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
The revelation in itself is strange. If there has been correspondence between the two as claimed in the press, either they've got it wrong as usual or Brueckner is pulling Mark Williams-Thomas' plonker.
This is like an elaborate game of charades.
What's the point of spending time and money making a production for public viewing if only chasing a myth, to placate someone who has been implicated in a serious crime - allegedly. Another non-event on the horizon if you ask me.
Still, as you say, we shall see - or not as the case may be. .
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Mark Williams-Thomas rates himself as some sort of super-sleuth, the Agatha Christie of true crime - written in true prose.
If he was in any way serious about exposing anything or anyone relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, why wait until 15 years after the event to chase one specific character - at the same time ignoring all the documented facts and evidence.
Seems like a waste of time and energy to me. He'd be put to better use uncovering all the lies and deception surrounding the case since the very beginning - May 2007.
Christian Bruckner is just another bit of debris collected along the way.
If he was in any way serious about exposing anything or anyone relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, why wait until 15 years after the event to chase one specific character - at the same time ignoring all the documented facts and evidence.
Seems like a waste of time and energy to me. He'd be put to better use uncovering all the lies and deception surrounding the case since the very beginning - May 2007.
Christian Bruckner is just another bit of debris collected along the way.
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Madeleine McCann expert issues tough update over suspect Christian B
Williams-Thomas believes we’ll never know who really abducted Madeleine.
ByJames RodgerContent Editor
16:22, 10 MAY 2022
Madeleine McCann's real abductor will go free as German police have the wrong man, an expert has claimed. Mark Williams-Thomas investigated suspect Christian B in a new Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B.
“In Portugal after 15 years any serious crime including murder can’t be prosecuted,” he said. “Christian Brueckner was made an arguido to get around this. I believe he is innocent.”
He then continued, saying that in Portugal, Madeleine’s killer is “in the clear”. "No matter how horrible and nasty a person is we have to have the evidence to prosecute,’’ Mr Williams-Thomas said.
"Somebody’s previous offending does not make them responsible. That is not how the criminal justice system should work.
"I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences. But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
"They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.
"We know, having just abducted a child and murdered them, there would be a change of behaviour. Yet his then girlfriend said his demeanour never changed.’’
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B airs tomorrow (Wednesday, May 11) on Channel 5 and My5 at 9pm.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/madeleine-mccann-expert-issues-tough-23919525
Williams-Thomas believes we’ll never know who really abducted Madeleine.
ByJames RodgerContent Editor
16:22, 10 MAY 2022
Madeleine McCann's real abductor will go free as German police have the wrong man, an expert has claimed. Mark Williams-Thomas investigated suspect Christian B in a new Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B.
“In Portugal after 15 years any serious crime including murder can’t be prosecuted,” he said. “Christian Brueckner was made an arguido to get around this. I believe he is innocent.”
He then continued, saying that in Portugal, Madeleine’s killer is “in the clear”. "No matter how horrible and nasty a person is we have to have the evidence to prosecute,’’ Mr Williams-Thomas said.
"Somebody’s previous offending does not make them responsible. That is not how the criminal justice system should work.
"I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences. But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
"They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.
"We know, having just abducted a child and murdered them, there would be a change of behaviour. Yet his then girlfriend said his demeanour never changed.’’
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B airs tomorrow (Wednesday, May 11) on Channel 5 and My5 at 9pm.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/madeleine-mccann-expert-issues-tough-23919525
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
I can't wait to watch it, I'll be watching with a box of Mon Cheri chocolates and something nice to drink, I'll tape it as well just in case I miss anything pertinent.
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" Williams Thomas believes we'll never know who really abducted Madeleine "
Shouldn't that read " what really happened to Madeleine " ?
As there is still no evidence of an abduction , only the former arguidos and never cleared of suspicion parents say that's what happened !
Shouldn't that read " what really happened to Madeleine " ?
As there is still no evidence of an abduction , only the former arguidos and never cleared of suspicion parents say that's what happened !
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
That is the one constant that nearly everybody has ignored from the beginning. (Except us).
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
MWT is currently on C5 getting Patsy Brueckner off the hook, just like Smith stepped in to get Patsy Murat off the hook.
And what great timing Mark, just as the 15 year time scale is up.
MWT keeps referring to May 3rd, and abduction. It seems that his only purpose is to exonerate CB and not to find out what happened to Madeleine.
If MWT was genuine, I would suggest sending him the evidence that points to Madeleines' death on April 29th, but is it worth it?
As for Wolters, what a plonker
And what great timing Mark, just as the 15 year time scale is up.
MWT keeps referring to May 3rd, and abduction. It seems that his only purpose is to exonerate CB and not to find out what happened to Madeleine.
If MWT was genuine, I would suggest sending him the evidence that points to Madeleines' death on April 29th, but is it worth it?
As for Wolters, what a plonker
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" abduction , taken " !
MWT talked to a lot of people .
How about Martin Grime , Eddie and Keela ?
Oh , sorry I forgot , like the PJ Files not to be mentioned !
MWT talked to a lot of people .
How about Martin Grime , Eddie and Keela ?
Oh , sorry I forgot , like the PJ Files not to be mentioned !
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Nobody seems interested in looking into the alternative scenario, I wonder why that is.
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What a pointless exercise. I didn't even have a bar of chocolate to help me through it.
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Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be
I ain't watched anything - yet, to be honest I forgot all about it until now.
The point is I feel, the name Brueckner is kept in focus whether it be for or against, bit like the McCann name has been over the past fifteen years. The McCann faction has used the name and opposing opinion to keep their McCann campaign up-front, just as is happening now with the name Brueckner.
Documentaries come and documentaries go, the only constant is the PJ files - they don't nor won't ever go away.
The point is I feel, the name Brueckner is kept in focus whether it be for or against, bit like the McCann name has been over the past fifteen years. The McCann faction has used the name and opposing opinion to keep their McCann campaign up-front, just as is happening now with the name Brueckner.
Documentaries come and documentaries go, the only constant is the PJ files - they don't nor won't ever go away.
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Madeleine McCann documentary tracks down suspect Christian B’s ‘alibi’ before bombshell revelation
Alicia AdejobiWednesday 11 May 2022 11:07 pm
Mark Williams-Tomas spent six months investigating Madeleine suspect Christian B (Pictures: Channel 5 / AFP)
A documentary about the abduction of Madeleine McCann revealed potentially groundbreaking new information about suspect Christian B’s alleged alibi.
Mark Williams-Tomas laid bare his six-month investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Portugal on May 3, 2007, in the Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B.
In the lengthy episode, Williams-Tomas delves into the evidence – or lack thereof – against Christian B, who was named as German prosecutors’ main suspect in June 2020.
The 44-year-old is currently serving time in a German prison for a number of sex and drug offences, but has vehemently denied having any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance and possible murder.
Christian has said he has an alibi, claiming to have spent the night, in which Madeleine was last seen in Praia da Luz, with a woman on the other side of the country.
In one of the biggest moments of the documentary, Williams-Tomas moves to track down the woman in question. She was not around at the time but the investigative journalist was able to speak to her partner who divulged her version of events.
‘I showed him a document that says she was in Faro, he says “you’ve got good information”,’ Williams-Tomas recalled of his conversation with the partner that happened off-camera.
According to her boyfriend, the woman confirmed she was indeed in Portugal in May 2007 but she ‘can’t be sure’ if she saw Christian on the night Madeleine went missing.
‘It was 15 years ago she cannot remember,’ the partner told the reporter, who added: ‘But he does say from her account she was there in 2007.
‘It’s not rubbish, it’s not fabrication, perhaps [Christian] is telling the truth.’
During another equally compelling moment, Williams-Tomas details the correspondence he has had with Christian directly in letters sent from his German prison.
In one four-page letter, the suspect insisted that from September 2006 he did not return to Praia da Luz and began selling drugs from February 2007, which saw him fly back and forth from Spain at least six times.
‘This is what puts credibility to his letter,’ Williams-Tomas states, adding that he has a picture of Christian on a beach where he said he was selling drugs.
Elsewhere in his letter, Christian detailed his alibi and how he spent a week with the woman, staying at her parents house and in his campervan.
He admittedly still doesn’t remember if he was with the alibi on the specific night Madeleine went missing, but knows that he was with her from midnight to 2am. However, the toddler was taken from her hotel room three hours before that and so there are several hours of his whereabouts unaccounted for.
Christian B did offer another possible alibi, claiming he was stopped by Scotland Yard police three days after Madeleine’s abduction and that they took a photo of him.
‘He’s giving specific detail,’ Williams-Tomas noted but admitted that it’s not ‘the definitive version that immediately shuts down the German prosecutor’s case’.
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B is available to watch on My5.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/11/madeleine-mccann-documentary-tracks-down-suspect-christian-bs-alibi-16628770/
Alicia AdejobiWednesday 11 May 2022 11:07 pm
Mark Williams-Tomas spent six months investigating Madeleine suspect Christian B (Pictures: Channel 5 / AFP)
A documentary about the abduction of Madeleine McCann revealed potentially groundbreaking new information about suspect Christian B’s alleged alibi.
Mark Williams-Tomas laid bare his six-month investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Portugal on May 3, 2007, in the Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B.
In the lengthy episode, Williams-Tomas delves into the evidence – or lack thereof – against Christian B, who was named as German prosecutors’ main suspect in June 2020.
The 44-year-old is currently serving time in a German prison for a number of sex and drug offences, but has vehemently denied having any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance and possible murder.
Christian has said he has an alibi, claiming to have spent the night, in which Madeleine was last seen in Praia da Luz, with a woman on the other side of the country.
In one of the biggest moments of the documentary, Williams-Tomas moves to track down the woman in question. She was not around at the time but the investigative journalist was able to speak to her partner who divulged her version of events.
‘I showed him a document that says she was in Faro, he says “you’ve got good information”,’ Williams-Tomas recalled of his conversation with the partner that happened off-camera.
According to her boyfriend, the woman confirmed she was indeed in Portugal in May 2007 but she ‘can’t be sure’ if she saw Christian on the night Madeleine went missing.
‘It was 15 years ago she cannot remember,’ the partner told the reporter, who added: ‘But he does say from her account she was there in 2007.
‘It’s not rubbish, it’s not fabrication, perhaps [Christian] is telling the truth.’
During another equally compelling moment, Williams-Tomas details the correspondence he has had with Christian directly in letters sent from his German prison.
In one four-page letter, the suspect insisted that from September 2006 he did not return to Praia da Luz and began selling drugs from February 2007, which saw him fly back and forth from Spain at least six times.
‘This is what puts credibility to his letter,’ Williams-Tomas states, adding that he has a picture of Christian on a beach where he said he was selling drugs.
Elsewhere in his letter, Christian detailed his alibi and how he spent a week with the woman, staying at her parents house and in his campervan.
He admittedly still doesn’t remember if he was with the alibi on the specific night Madeleine went missing, but knows that he was with her from midnight to 2am. However, the toddler was taken from her hotel room three hours before that and so there are several hours of his whereabouts unaccounted for.
Christian B did offer another possible alibi, claiming he was stopped by Scotland Yard police three days after Madeleine’s abduction and that they took a photo of him.
‘He’s giving specific detail,’ Williams-Tomas noted but admitted that it’s not ‘the definitive version that immediately shuts down the German prosecutor’s case’.
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B is available to watch on My5.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/11/madeleine-mccann-documentary-tracks-down-suspect-christian-bs-alibi-16628770/
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Maddie McCann Channel 5 documentary: What revelations might we expect to see?
A NEW documentary concerning investigators' prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann airs tonight - which is expected to argue his innocence. Will it send officers searching for the culprit back to square one?
By Aleks Phillips
21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022 | UPDATED: 21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B will air on Channel 5 at 9pm tonight, following the investigative work of Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police officer turned journalist. It is aimed at investigating Christian Brueckner, the convicted rapist and child sexual abuser German prosecutors investigating Maddie’s disappearance have named as their prime suspect.
Ahead of the documentary being released, the sleuth, who exposed Jimmy Savile as a paedophile, said that though he started from the a position of believing prosecutors were on the right track, the lack of evidence he found against Brueckner means he now believes him innocent.
Madeleine disappeared when she was three years old, while her family were on holiday in Portugal in 2007.
The public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig announced in 2020 that they believed Brueckner was responsible for the killing of Madeleine McCann, after finding mobile GPS data which placed him within the area of the hotel the McCanns were staying in.
Christian Brueckner has always denied all allegations in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In the build-up to the documentary, Mr Williams-Thomas said he had been given an alibi by Brueckner in an exchange of letters from his Oldenburg prison cell, which the team had been able to independently verify.
He told sister paper the Star: “In that last letter that we have [from him], that we feature in the documentary, he tells us his alibi.
“We set out to see if his alibi had any validity. We took it with a real pinch of salt. Brueckner is protective of her [the alibi] – she has moved on with her life now and he doesn’t want to drag her into it.
“He would tell us who she was. We had to find her ourselves.”
When he tracked Brueckner’s alibi down, he claims she told him that she had been with him the week Madeleine went missing.
Despite being named as a suspect in the case two years ago, Brueckner has yet to be charged with any offence in relation to Maddie’s disappearance. So far, any evidence revealed by investigators has been circumstantial.
Hopes were raised last week following speculation that fibres from Madeleine’s pyjamas had been uncovered in Brueckner’s campervan – which he was known to use for drug dealing while in the Algarve.
Hans Christian Wolters, spokesperson for the public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig, said that investigators had uncovered “some new evidence – not forensic evidence, but evidence”.
He also said previously Brueckner had not given German authorities any information, nor were they aware of any alibi. A Channel 5 insider accused Brueckner of playing “mind games” with investigators.
Mr Wolters remains “100 percent certain” they have the right man.
Last Thursday, he said that the fact that the Portuguese authorities had named Brueckner as a suspect as well “shows everyone that we are not on the wrong way”.
However, Mr Williams-Thomas believed the naming of Brueckner as an “arguido” – or formal suspect – by Portuguese authorities just before the 15th anniversary of the disappearance, rather than being a step closer to justice, could lead to disaster in the case.
He said: “In Portugal after 15 years any serious crime including murder can’t be prosecuted. Christian Brueckner was made an arguido to get around this. I believe he is innocent.
“Therefore, in Portugal, Madeleine McCann’s killer is in the clear.’’
Mr Thomas-Williams’ fears aren’t universal among those researching the case. Jon Clarke, a journalist who was one of the first on the scene in Praia da Luz and is working on his own documentary, said recently he still believes Brueckner to be responsible.
Speaking in the i newspaper yesterday, he said: “I worked on the show, but my beliefs do not coincide with Williams Thomas’ narrative, that Brueckner is innocent.”
New charges against Brueckner, unrelated to the disappearance of Madeleine, are expected to be brought imminently regarding his other alleged crimes, including the alleged rape of Irish tourism rep Hazel Behan in 2004.
It is expected these charges are aimed at keeping Brueckner in prison, having already reportedly been denied parole after still being deemed a risk to the public.
Mr Williams-Thomas also said: “I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences. But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
“They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1608951/Madeleine-McCann-channel-5-documentary-tonight-new-revelations
A NEW documentary concerning investigators' prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann airs tonight - which is expected to argue his innocence. Will it send officers searching for the culprit back to square one?
By Aleks Phillips
21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022 | UPDATED: 21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022
Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B will air on Channel 5 at 9pm tonight, following the investigative work of Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police officer turned journalist. It is aimed at investigating Christian Brueckner, the convicted rapist and child sexual abuser German prosecutors investigating Maddie’s disappearance have named as their prime suspect.
Ahead of the documentary being released, the sleuth, who exposed Jimmy Savile as a paedophile, said that though he started from the a position of believing prosecutors were on the right track, the lack of evidence he found against Brueckner means he now believes him innocent.
Madeleine disappeared when she was three years old, while her family were on holiday in Portugal in 2007.
The public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig announced in 2020 that they believed Brueckner was responsible for the killing of Madeleine McCann, after finding mobile GPS data which placed him within the area of the hotel the McCanns were staying in.
Christian Brueckner has always denied all allegations in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
In the build-up to the documentary, Mr Williams-Thomas said he had been given an alibi by Brueckner in an exchange of letters from his Oldenburg prison cell, which the team had been able to independently verify.
He told sister paper the Star: “In that last letter that we have [from him], that we feature in the documentary, he tells us his alibi.
“We set out to see if his alibi had any validity. We took it with a real pinch of salt. Brueckner is protective of her [the alibi] – she has moved on with her life now and he doesn’t want to drag her into it.
“He would tell us who she was. We had to find her ourselves.”
When he tracked Brueckner’s alibi down, he claims she told him that she had been with him the week Madeleine went missing.
Despite being named as a suspect in the case two years ago, Brueckner has yet to be charged with any offence in relation to Maddie’s disappearance. So far, any evidence revealed by investigators has been circumstantial.
Hopes were raised last week following speculation that fibres from Madeleine’s pyjamas had been uncovered in Brueckner’s campervan – which he was known to use for drug dealing while in the Algarve.
Hans Christian Wolters, spokesperson for the public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig, said that investigators had uncovered “some new evidence – not forensic evidence, but evidence”.
He also said previously Brueckner had not given German authorities any information, nor were they aware of any alibi. A Channel 5 insider accused Brueckner of playing “mind games” with investigators.
Mr Wolters remains “100 percent certain” they have the right man.
Last Thursday, he said that the fact that the Portuguese authorities had named Brueckner as a suspect as well “shows everyone that we are not on the wrong way”.
However, Mr Williams-Thomas believed the naming of Brueckner as an “arguido” – or formal suspect – by Portuguese authorities just before the 15th anniversary of the disappearance, rather than being a step closer to justice, could lead to disaster in the case.
He said: “In Portugal after 15 years any serious crime including murder can’t be prosecuted. Christian Brueckner was made an arguido to get around this. I believe he is innocent.
“Therefore, in Portugal, Madeleine McCann’s killer is in the clear.’’
Mr Thomas-Williams’ fears aren’t universal among those researching the case. Jon Clarke, a journalist who was one of the first on the scene in Praia da Luz and is working on his own documentary, said recently he still believes Brueckner to be responsible.
Speaking in the i newspaper yesterday, he said: “I worked on the show, but my beliefs do not coincide with Williams Thomas’ narrative, that Brueckner is innocent.”
New charges against Brueckner, unrelated to the disappearance of Madeleine, are expected to be brought imminently regarding his other alleged crimes, including the alleged rape of Irish tourism rep Hazel Behan in 2004.
It is expected these charges are aimed at keeping Brueckner in prison, having already reportedly been denied parole after still being deemed a risk to the public.
Mr Williams-Thomas also said: “I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences. But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.
“They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1608951/Madeleine-McCann-channel-5-documentary-tonight-new-revelations
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