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Post by PeterMac 26.06.21 9:13

You must make your own judgment about the veracity of this report, and its likely nexus to the case in point !
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Big story - then you need a big Dog!
The tabloids are getting desperate to keep the Story going?
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Post by PeterMac 26.06.21 11:00

Spanish Mastin [Mastiff]

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Two fawn Spanish Mastiffs

This noble giant is aloof, dignified, calm and intelligent. It is devoted to its family and may politely accept strangers if it has been socialized properly, although it will be wary of them. It can be aggressive toward other dogs.  The Spanish Mastiff may be a less-than-ideal pet in urban situations, where its booming voice and massive size could be problematic. It is a wonderful protector of its home and family.
Socialization and training should begin early to ensure this dog a stable and reliable pet. Supervised exposure in puppyhood to a variety of unfamiliar but non-threatening dogs will help dampen a tendency to aggression toward other dogs.  The breed is quite alert and food motivated but can bore easily; training must be consistent and firm but gentle. Once the trainer has established the dog's respect as leader, the Spanish Mastiff will be an extremely loyal pet
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Turkish Kangal
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The Kangal Shepherd Dog is calm, controlled, independent, powerful and protective. They may be aloof towards strangers, but a well-socialized Kangal Dog is friendly with visitors and especially children.
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Post by Silentscope 26.06.21 13:22

The images of the Fence line and Grounds are listed as being supplied from the Olive press. Jon Clarke used to be a Daily Mail reporter for four years 1996-2000. He took on the Olive Press in 2006.

The Sun, Daily Mail and The Mirror all seem to be part of the Team McCann PR Setup.

The area around Albufeira seems to be getting a lot of ‘hits’ lately regarding Psychics and now this ‘Story’.

It is reflected nowhere in the German press as yet.
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Post by Mainline 26.06.21 13:41

Mr Fehlinger has told investigators that Nicole and Brueckner had a secret compound on the Algarve which no-one else had been aware of.

He said it was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any in the world.




“It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night.“The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her.”



So he may or 'may not have been there' , what use would Nicole have of a bunker and four dogs?

If it wasn't ascribed to her dad I would think it was a someone pulling their leg and them not realising.



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Post by Guest 26.06.21 13:59

So what if Brueckner had access to a blot on the landscape guarded by a Cerberus, or a past alleged girlfriend had a plot of shrubbery guarded by a pack of mockapoodles - what's that got to do with the disappearance of Madeleine  McCann?

There is no evidence to suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted or kidnapped.  There is however strong evidence and intelligence that implicates the parents McCann and documented evidence that two trained dogs alerted to the scent of bodily fluids and death !?!

A non-story having the desired effect .... distraction! It works every time.

Nothing to see here, move along ...
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Post by Mainline 26.06.21 14:19

Can't edit my last post anymore so for info:

ForGen - https://www.forensik-hh.de/
https://www.instagram.com/forgenhamburg/?hl=en-gb


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Forgenhamburg
ForGen und die Presse!
Wenn ein sehr, sehr guter Anwalt, eine nicht-untalentierte forensische Genetikerin und ein exorbitant motiviertes, akribisches und offensichtlich wirklich gutes, drei(!)-köpfiges Filmteam zusammenkommen, kann garantiert nur etwas wirklich Großartiges entstehen.
Das sagen wir jetzt mal nach guten drei Stunden anstrengender Dreherei ganz bescheiden.
Jetzt, nach überstandener Arbeit, üben wir uns in Geduld und warten, bis dieser Beitrag, in dem u.a. die Fragen der Tat-relevanten Spur und die Interpretation von DNA-Befunden beleuchtet werden, gesendet wird.
Das Ganze hat super viel Spaß gemacht, war sehr spannend anzusehen und einen großen Dank an dieser Stelle müssen wir noch loswerden für die Kollegen des Instituts für Hämatopathologie, in deren Räumlichkeiten wir drehen durften. Schließlich geht das aus Gründen der DNA-Kontamination nicht in unseren eigenen Laboren.
Das Wochenende haben wir uns also mehr als verdient und wünschen Euch ebenfalls gute Erholung.
Euer ForGen-Team mit Friedrich Sebastian Fülscher.


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Forgenhamburg ForGen and the press! When a very, very good lawyer, a non-untalented forensic geneticist and an exorbitantly motivated, meticulous and obviously really good three (!) - member film team come together, only something really great is guaranteed. Let's say that very modestly after a good three hours of exhausting turning work. Now, after we have finished our work, we will exercise patience and wait until this contribution, in which, among other things, the questions of the crime-relevant trace and the interpretation of DNA findings are shown, is broadcast. The whole thing was a lot of fun, it was very exciting to look at and at this point we have to say a big thank you for the colleagues at the Institute of Hematopathology, in whose premises we were allowed to shoot. After all, for reasons of DNA contamination, this cannot be done in our own laboratories. So we have more than earned the weekend and wish you a good rest as well. Your ForGen team with Friedrich Sebastian Fülscher.

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Post by PeterMac 26.06.21 14:59

Silentscope wrote:The images of the Fence line and Grounds are listed as being supplied from the Olive press. Jon Clarke used to be a Daily Mail reporter for four years 1996-2000. He took on the Olive Press in 2006.
The Sun, Daily Mail and The Mirror all seem to be part of the Team McCann PR Setup.

The LYING BS'TARD has actually claimed ownership of the photos.  And I bet he has invoiced them.  

All he has done is taken a screen shot from Google Maps - street view and cropped the road name out.

This is Street view, with the Mirror photo superimposed

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Emails with proof sent to the relevant editors 

AND TO PRIVATE EYE !  AND GRANGE
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Post by Silentscope 26.06.21 18:58

With advances in Forensics nowadays being able to source DNA from Fingerprints, and match them to Suspected persons, I foresee an opportunity here for the Brückner defence team and Forgen.

Op Grange were previously able to block any re-testing of Samples as it was a purely English investigation. (Dr.Perlin being the case in point.)

Now it is not. OG cannot stop Herr Fülscher from re-examining Samples taken at the scene as long as the Portuguese are willing.

Forgen also carry out Fathership testing. 

https://web2.cylex.de/firma-home/forgen-forensische-genetik-und-rechtsmedizin-am-institut-fuer-haematopathologie-gmbh-11308385.html
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Post by Guest 27.06.21 2:10

Silentscope wrote:With advances in Forensics nowadays being able to source DNA from Fingerprints, and match them to Suspected persons, I foresee an opportunity here for the Brückner defence team and Forgen.

Op Grange were previously able to block any re-testing of Samples as it was a purely English investigation. (Dr.Perlin being the case in point.)

Now it is not. OG cannot stop Herr Fülscher from re-examining Samples taken at the scene as long as the Portuguese are willing.

Forgen also carry out Fathership testing. 

https://web2.cylex.de/firma-home/forgen-forensische-genetik-und-rechtsmedizin-am-institut-fuer-haematopathologie-gmbh-11308385.html

What on earth are you talking about?
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Post by Guest 27.06.21 2:20

NEW MADDIE CLUE Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B had ‘secret Algarve compound guarded by dogs that only him and ex has access too’

Mark Hodge

9:55, 26 Jun 2021Updated: 9:59, 26 Jun 2021


MADELEINE McCann cops have been told of a secret compound in Portugal owned by the prime suspect's ex-lover, a report says.

German cops are reportedly seriously examining the new lead which points to a plot of a land in the Algarve - the same region where the British toddler vanished in 2007.

The secret bunker was previously guarded by four ferocious Kangal dogs - which have the strongest bite of any hound in the world, the report says.

Madeleine is believed to have been snatched from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz a few days before her fourth birthday.

In June last year, German police revealed that a convicted paedophile named as Christian B, 44, had been made the prime suspect in the long-running cold case. He denies any involvement in the alleged kidnapping.

According to the Mirror, the sex offender and his ex-girlfriend Nicole Fehlinger, also 44, had access to a secret compound which has yet to be investigated.

Nicole's father Dieter has reportedly spoken to the German equivalent of the FBI for a second time recently and mentioned the bunker which he claims no one else is aware of.

The report said prosecutors in the country have confirmed the man gave an interview to cops and that they are seriously examining the lead.

Dieter told the Mirror: “No one knows that my daughter not only had the private residence in Portugal at her disposal, but also a separate compound.

“No-one has ever searched there or the property has never turned up in connection with Maddie, Brueckner or Nicole.

"It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night."

He added that the area was "overgrown, not visible" and only his daughter and "perhaps" Christian B had access.

The compound is located 38 miles from Praia da Luz and very close to a house where Nicole previously lived, the report says.

Nicole lived in Portugal with Christian B who spent years in the Algarve region as a drifter allegedly breaking into and robbing holiday apartments.

There is no suggestion that Nicole Fehlinger had any involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Christian B denies he had any involvement in the alleged snatching of the child.

Mother-of-three Nicole was part of a fostering programme in Portugal which helped troubled German kids.

She had a relationship with Christian B for a couple of years after they met at a bar.

Christian B, who is the only suspect in the case, is currently serving time in Germany for other crimes including the rape of a pensioner in Portugal.

Prosecutors say the convicted paedo's phone records place him near Madeleine's holiday flat at the the time she disappeared.

This month, cops dismissed a psychic's claims that Madeline is buried in a forest just six miles from where she vanished - because they already searched the area.

Michael Schneider, 50, who has successfully located the remains of several missing people, has given police the exact coordinates of where he thinks the Brit child's body is in Portugal.

He contacted authorities in May with the details, and they allegedly replied saying: "Your ­information will be appropriately incorporated into our work."

Last year, after Christian B was named the prime suspect in the case, German cops dug up an allotment rented by him.

The paedophile frequented the Hanover allotment in the years after the toddler's disappearance in 2007.

Yet, despite over a year of investigating the sex offender, police admit they still do not have enough evidence to charge him.

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Post by Guest 27.06.21 2:32

Cobblers!

So what exactly would they expect to find in this remote blot on the landscape, protected by Cerberus reincarnated?

The remains of a child's body?

There is no evidence to suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted or kidnapped.  There is documented evidence to suggest the parents Gerry and Kate McCann were involved in some way with the disappearance of their own child.  There is documented evidence to suggest that two specialist dogs alerted to bodily fluids and death in the holiday apartment occupied by the McCann family and the Renault Scenic rented by the McCann fraternity.

Stay with the evidence, the rest is window dressing.

Team McCann have used to media since the beginning to guarantee their security.  The media has capitalized on the sensationalism to this very day.  It's a cunning plan to distract from the truth.  It works every time - I can see them rubbing their hands with glee time and time again, as the public lust over every bit of tittle tattle presented for their gullible consumption - or maybe just gossip for the gossips sake.

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Keep your eyes on the ball!

I need to shift away from tabloid tripe.
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Post by PeterMac 27.06.21 6:43

It is cobblers,
BUT we should keep an eye on the way the MSM have been manipulated by Team McCann
over the past 14 years, and counter each ludicrous suggestion as it is produced, with our own 
media releases, be that by countering stories on the Olive Press Twitter account, Fakebook
blogs, ebooks, circulating other material, or in other ways

One interesting phrase in the above is this
"Christian B denies he had any involvement in the alleged snatching of the child."


Spot the important word.   
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Post by Guest 27.06.21 15:05

After the initial malstrom of any exclusive when media organs dispatch their ace reporters to the scene of action, for the most part, news stems from a central source - a press agency.

It is then circulated to the world's or local media outlets, who put their own individual slant on each story.  This normally amounts to juggling words with insignificant additions and deletions.  Anything to make the story more attractive to the audience.

I strongly suspect team McCann to be behind the media stories over the past 14 years, no smoke without fire so to speak.  But for it to be of useful purpose, it's essential to know exactly who is pulling the strings - I don't believe that to be the McCanns themselves, I doubt they have the clout.

They do however appear to have amassed a very strong support network - that's what needs to be uncovered.  

Who why when and where ....
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Post by Jill Havern 27.06.21 15:23

Whoops...I just sent that ^^^ to Operation Grange  whistling

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Oh well, accidents do happen...
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Post by crusader 27.06.21 17:15

Well done Jill.
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Post by sharonl 27.06.21 21:55

big grin Was that another e-mail that you had drafted never meaning to send? I am sure the cat won't mind taking the blame again.
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Police uncover sinister new detail in Madeleine McCann's disappearance

27 Jun, 2021 07:15 PM

[video clip of Netflix documentary]

Police have uncovered a new lead in the search for Madeleine McCann; a secret compound linked to the prime suspect in her disappearance.

Located in the southern Algarve region of Portugal – the same area where 3-year-old McCann vanished from a holiday apartment back in 2007 – the property belongs to convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner's ex-girlfriend Nicole Fehlinger.

News of the compound emerged after Fehlinger's father Dieter was recently interviewed for a second time by German authorities, who are reportedly taking the revelation "very seriously".

Dieter claims that his daughter and her former lover Breuckner, 44, were the only people who had access to the compound.

"No one knows that my daughter not only had the private residence in Portugal at her disposal, but also a separate compound," he told The Mirror. "No one has ever searched there or the property has never turned up in connection with Maddie."

At the time of McCann's disappearance, Fehlinger and Brueckner had been living together in a private residence very close to the secret compound.

Hidden by overgrown trees and weeds, the 5000sq m compound was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any canine in the world.

"The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps [Brueckner] with her," Dieter said.

The former couple had regular phone conversations and even went for a weekend getaway in Lisbon together just months after Madeleine vanished, Portuguese court documents show.

Fehlinger, a mother of three, is not suspected of having any involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine.

Meanwhile, Brueckner has been convicted of other offences, including the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz, Portugal, and remains in jail. He has denied any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

Brueckner broke his silence last month, penning a handwritten letter that slammed the Madeleine investigation as a "scandal".

A bizarre hand-drawn cartoon accompanied the letter, depicting two prosecutors ordering food at a restaurant, with one of the characters saying in speech bubbles: "I'll take the fillet forensics", to which the other replies: "Yummy, me too".

"Charging an accused is one thing," the letter reads.

"Something completely different – namely, it is an unbelievable scandal – when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.

"Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority.

"It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position."

It is believed the cartoon is a reference to investigators, who previously admitting they did not possess any forensic evidence linking Christian B to the case.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/police-uncover-sinister-new-detail-in-madeleine-mccanns-disappearance/ISZR6WZ64MFOGPTRU6U6XR7JTE/

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Post by Guest 28.06.21 1:39

OK so this is just another take on the press agency latest release but I do wonder why the Netflix documentary clip.

This secreted compound 'sinister new detail is just that - a sinister new detail. Don't you just love tabloid sensationalism!

Thus, it didn't feature in the Netflix mockuplenty, why then are we treated to yet another look at the guardian poised at Dante's very own inferno .... Jim Gamble?
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Post by Guest 28.06.21 2:11

I have thought long and hard about the unprecedented support offered to the McCanns and the media coverage of all things McCann over the past 14 years, it all leads back to one source .... Clarence Mitchell !!!

Admittedly not the first to arrive at the scene of the crime, far from it, but once ensconced he played - and still plays, a very prominent part in the theatrics.  He and he alone was the one with the contacts and time to devote to support the McCanns thanks to his secondment to Praia da Luz in May 2007.  Government and political appendages have more pressing issues to attend to but Mitchell was free to work full time protecting the McCanns in those early days.

I think the more curious matter was his resignation from the civil service to become a full-time employee of Brian Kennedy, the wealthy entrepreneur,  Fully committed to the McCann support network.

So which came first - the chicken or the egg?  Did the government elect Clarence Mitchell to work in favour of the McCanns or did Clarence Mitchell elect the government to work in favour of the McCanns?

I see no obvious reasons why the McCanns were supported by the government but I can see a number of connections between the governments Media Monitoring Unit and media coverage of the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann.

There is a lot of untruthiness surrounding the case and who better to spin a yarn than a government director of media manipulation.  I bet the employee in such a capacity knows a thing or two that could seriously compromise particular politicians,  what is that called - blackmail?

Close McCann friend Jon Corner, he of the dubious Madeleine video, worked in the world of media and the McCanns holiday companion Rachel Oldfield had contacts in the BBC.  Clarence Mitchell once worked for the BBC.

I guess we will never know, footprints can be so easily erased, but it doesn't stop the inquiring mind from ticking.

There is little evidence that can be directly pointed to specific politicians and such like, human interest is such a simple camouflage, there is however an abundance of documented and videoed evidence that points in the direction of the media.  Be it tentacles or testicles or ....

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14972-candid-camera-clarence-mitchell#383015
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Post by ShiningInLuz 28.06.21 3:35

Verdi wrote:.....

Close McCann friend Jon Corner, he of the dubious Madeleine video, worked in the world of media and the McCanns holiday companion Rachel Oldfield had contacts in the BBC.

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Is that the Simple Minds video?

I have tried looking for a copy of this but I have never been able to find it.

Do you have a link?
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Post by PeterMac 28.06.21 9:30

On the sister FaceBook site - https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/posts/3033386053572534/
is a comment from someone who says he lives within 3 minutes of the alleged "compound" and that it was throughly searched a year ago.

But that doesn't stop the Olive Press selling the story across the world a year later.
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Post by Jill Havern 28.06.21 9:45

Just want to say, Peter, that you need to hit the 'reply' button under Tony Davies post so that he gets a notification that you've asked him a question...he may not see it otherwise.

Or, you could write his name in full...he'll also get a notification that way too. You could edit your post to write his name in full.

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Post by PeterMac 28.06.21 10:59

Done.
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There is no doubt that the publicity machine organised by or on behalf of Team McCann is extraordinarily successful in implanting ideas in the minds of people and keeping alive the "official Story"

This is today's screen shot of News Now
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so the Olive Press story has now gone to New Zealand and New York, as well as the Mirror, and several other tabloid papers.
It is important therefore to counter the nonsense with the facts.  About the images being presented as 'evidence'; about the story itself; and about the incomplete nature of what people are being told - namely in this case that the field was searched over a year ago.
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Post by Tony Bennett 28.06.21 11:26

PeterMac wrote:There is no doubt that the publicity machine organised by or on behalf of Team McCann is extraordinarily successful in implanting ideas in the minds of people and keeping alive the "official Story"

And it has been like that since Day One. 

In fact, if we could only find out, it would be revealing to know how the media behind the scenes were influenced to launch this international story right at the very beginning, with those 7am and 8am bulletins on Sky TV and BBC etc. on Friday 4 May 2007. 

About a year later, there was a curious short programme on the BBC purporting to explain how the story was put together on the night of 3/4 May 2007. It featured mostly James Landale. I have tried to find it but can't. I remember thinking at the time that this was an attempt to give the public a cover story to conceal the fact that, quite possibly, key people in the media had been teeing up this story, oven-ready for presentation to the media on Friday morning, for two or three days beforehand. 

After I wrote '30 Reasons which suggest that Madeleine McCann was not abducted' on the Madeleine Foundation website in August 2008, and we announced that '60 Reasons' was in preparation (it was published on 7 December 2008), I got a 'phone call from James Landale pumping me for information about the Madeleine Foundation and if an when we were going to release the book etc. He asked me to send him a copy as soon as it came out. 

I now wonder if he is an MI5 asset.

One of the biggest clues to the extent of possible extensive advance preparation for the release of this story early on Friday 4 May comes, in fact, from the pen of Jon Clarke of Olive Press himself. 

His claim to have been woken 'early in the morning' on 4 May and then made the 200-mile trip to Praia da Luz to arrive there 'before any other journalist' has already been exposed as a fabrication. What is the truth?

I wrote a piece which is on CMOMM somewhere about Clarke's direct involvement in the absurd Marcelhino Italiano story - the Angolan-born bouncer and Spanish league basketball player whose teeth had been knocked out as a result of his noble efforts as a part-time private investigator to track down the vicious paedophile gang who had whisked Madeleine McCann off the the United States.

Jon Clarke must have known that this was a complete fairly tale.

Clarke's activities in support of the official Madeleine McCann narrative is surely one of the clearest evidences one could wish for of the Bible's claim that: 

"The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" 

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