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Madeleine McCann suspect breaks silence with letter telling police to "give up"
Convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, 44, is the prime suspect the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who went missing during a family holiday in Portugal's Algarve in 2007
ByChris KitchingSenior News Reporter
11:02, 14 JUN 2021Updated11:47, 14 JUN 2021
A German paedophile suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann has spoken for the first time since he was named a suspect.
Christian Brueckner, 44, has reportedly written a letter slamming the investigation a "scandal", proclaiming his innocence and urging prosecutors leading the case to give up.
He accused prosecutors of bringing "shame" to the German legal system by making "scandalous" statements against him without ever bringing charges in connection with Madeleine's disappearance.
The letter, dated May 8, reportedly was accompanied by a bizarre drawing of two prosecutors ordering "filet forensics" at a restaurant.
Bruckner was last year named the prime suspect in the case, which German prosecutors are treating as a murder investigation.
This bizarre sketch showing two prosecutors ordering food at a restaurant was included with the letter (Image: BILD Fotoservice)
Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, just days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Her parents Kate and Gerry had put her and her siblings to bed in the flat before joining friends for dinner at a tapas restaurant nearby.
Madeleine was gone when they returned and has never been found.
German prosecutors claim they have evidence Madeline is dead and they suspect she was abducted and murdered by Brueckner, who has not yet been quizzed.
The letter written by Brueckner was dated May 8 and obtained by a German tabloid (Image: BILD Fotoservice)
German tabloid Bild reported on Monday that it had obtained a letter written by Brueckner.
He said prosecutors should resign for "persecuting an innocent person".
Brueckner, previously convicted of sexually abusing two young girls in Germany, called the investigation a "scandal" and attacked prosecutors for making statements about him to the press.
He wrote that prosecutors were "unsuitable for office" and "bring shame to the German legal system", Bild reported.
The letter was accompanied by a drawing of prosecutors ordering food in a restaurant.
In speech bubbles in the drawing, one of the characters says "I'll take the filet forensics" and the other replies "Yummy, me too".
It is a possible reference to the fact that investigators have previously admitted they have no forensic evidence in the case.
Brueckner, who is currently in prison, wrote in the letter: "Charging an accused is one thing.
"Something completely different - namely, it is an unbelievable scandal - when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.
"Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority.
"It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position.
"I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors (Hans Christian) Wolters and (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices.
"Both are proving worldwide through my arbitrary condemnation in the past and through their scandalous pre-denial campaign in the present against me as an innocent person that they are not suitable for an office as a lawyer for the honest and trusting German people and you bring shame onto the judiciary."
Brueckner is in prison in Oldenburg, near Bremen, after being sentenced to seven years for raping an elderly woman in her home in Praia da Luz in 2005.
It is the same resort where Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, went missing about 18 months later.
Earlier this month, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told the Mirror he was "pleased" with how the case has progressed and it could be solved in months.
Mr Wolters said prosecutors still had unanswered questions, however.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-suspect-speaks-first-24312819
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Convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, 44, is the prime suspect the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who went missing during a family holiday in Portugal's Algarve in 2007
ByChris KitchingSenior News Reporter
11:02, 14 JUN 2021Updated11:47, 14 JUN 2021
A German paedophile suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann has spoken for the first time since he was named a suspect.
Christian Brueckner, 44, has reportedly written a letter slamming the investigation a "scandal", proclaiming his innocence and urging prosecutors leading the case to give up.
He accused prosecutors of bringing "shame" to the German legal system by making "scandalous" statements against him without ever bringing charges in connection with Madeleine's disappearance.
The letter, dated May 8, reportedly was accompanied by a bizarre drawing of two prosecutors ordering "filet forensics" at a restaurant.
Bruckner was last year named the prime suspect in the case, which German prosecutors are treating as a murder investigation.
This bizarre sketch showing two prosecutors ordering food at a restaurant was included with the letter (Image: BILD Fotoservice)
Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, just days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
Her parents Kate and Gerry had put her and her siblings to bed in the flat before joining friends for dinner at a tapas restaurant nearby.
Madeleine was gone when they returned and has never been found.
German prosecutors claim they have evidence Madeline is dead and they suspect she was abducted and murdered by Brueckner, who has not yet been quizzed.
The letter written by Brueckner was dated May 8 and obtained by a German tabloid (Image: BILD Fotoservice)
German tabloid Bild reported on Monday that it had obtained a letter written by Brueckner.
He said prosecutors should resign for "persecuting an innocent person".
Brueckner, previously convicted of sexually abusing two young girls in Germany, called the investigation a "scandal" and attacked prosecutors for making statements about him to the press.
He wrote that prosecutors were "unsuitable for office" and "bring shame to the German legal system", Bild reported.
The letter was accompanied by a drawing of prosecutors ordering food in a restaurant.
In speech bubbles in the drawing, one of the characters says "I'll take the filet forensics" and the other replies "Yummy, me too".
It is a possible reference to the fact that investigators have previously admitted they have no forensic evidence in the case.
Brueckner, who is currently in prison, wrote in the letter: "Charging an accused is one thing.
"Something completely different - namely, it is an unbelievable scandal - when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.
"Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority.
"It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position.
"I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors (Hans Christian) Wolters and (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices.
"Both are proving worldwide through my arbitrary condemnation in the past and through their scandalous pre-denial campaign in the present against me as an innocent person that they are not suitable for an office as a lawyer for the honest and trusting German people and you bring shame onto the judiciary."
Brueckner is in prison in Oldenburg, near Bremen, after being sentenced to seven years for raping an elderly woman in her home in Praia da Luz in 2005.
It is the same resort where Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, went missing about 18 months later.
Earlier this month, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told the Mirror he was "pleased" with how the case has progressed and it could be solved in months.
Mr Wolters said prosecutors still had unanswered questions, however.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-suspect-speaks-first-24312819
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I wonder he didn't send an email.
Oh no, of course that wouldn't have the same impact as publishing a hand written letter in the German tabloid Bild - would it.
And if that's a genuine Brueckner 'copyright' cartoon he should ditch crime in favour of a career in cartoonery!
Quite lucrative I believe .... and quite legal!
Oh no, of course that wouldn't have the same impact as publishing a hand written letter in the German tabloid Bild - would it.
And if that's a genuine Brueckner 'copyright' cartoon he should ditch crime in favour of a career in cartoonery!
Quite lucrative I believe .... and quite legal!
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The handwriting may be the answer as his signature is different on the letter to the signature on his Personal identity card.
All letters in and out of Prisons are screened so I do not see how this letter escaped the attention of the JVA wherever he is being held.
Access to Brückner is restricted - so how did he get it to the outside?
All letters in and out of Prisons are screened so I do not see how this letter escaped the attention of the JVA wherever he is being held.
Access to Brückner is restricted - so how did he get it to the outside?
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Please can you post a photo of his signature on his ID card @Silentscope
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I would say they were both signed by the same person, the Ch in Christian are the same and the B in Brueckner are the same.
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The broadsheets are now running the story as well.
Interesting that the Mail allowed Comments - all of them negative
The Times has the comments open, but I have been put into Purdah for the moment.
Deliberately anodyne, but that seems to be the only way of getting anything past the censors
UPDATE>
12:10
Now approved ! ! ! Hallelujah.
But it clearly exercised their Legal and McCann-Protection Division for an entire morning. Almost 7 hours
Interesting that the Mail allowed Comments - all of them negative
The Times has the comments open, but I have been put into Purdah for the moment.
Deliberately anodyne, but that seems to be the only way of getting anything past the censors
UPDATE>
12:10
Now approved ! ! ! Hallelujah.
But it clearly exercised their Legal and McCann-Protection Division for an entire morning. Almost 7 hours
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Handwriting expert Werner von Kiedrowski (53) works as a graphologist and type expert in court, supports the police in investigations and is certain: someone like Christian Brückner will finish exactly what he has started.
“It is immediately noticeable that the font is rather small and extremely neat. The size in particular suggests that the man prefers to move in the background and does not want to attract any attention. Such people are usually very precise and petty. "
According to the expert, he can act as neatly as Brückner writes: “Every letter has been chosen with care. This person plans things in a very specific and long-term way. ”He is also certain:“ People with such a handwriting are 300 percent accurate and unwaveringly finish what they started. ”
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/news/inland/news-inland/fall-maddie-mccann-handschrift-experte-analysiert-brief-von-christian-brueckner-76735034.bild.html&prev=search&pto=aue
“It is immediately noticeable that the font is rather small and extremely neat. The size in particular suggests that the man prefers to move in the background and does not want to attract any attention. Such people are usually very precise and petty. "
"Each letter chosen with care"
According to the expert, he can act as neatly as Brückner writes: “Every letter has been chosen with care. This person plans things in a very specific and long-term way. ”He is also certain:“ People with such a handwriting are 300 percent accurate and unwaveringly finish what they started. ”
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/news/inland/news-inland/fall-maddie-mccann-handschrift-experte-analysiert-brief-von-christian-brueckner-76735034.bild.html&prev=search&pto=aue
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crusader wrote:I would say they were both signed by the same person, the Ch in Christian are the same and the B in Brueckner are the same.
I tend to the same view
Here they are together. Letter then ID card
The vertical stroke for the C and the dominance of the Ch
with the subsequent fizzling out of the -ris
and the distinctive and perhaps unusual flowing nature of the B
lead me to the same tentative conclusion
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Even my own signature has changed over twenty years.
The owner of a signature writes it differently every time, a forger would write the same every time because he has trained his hand to do so.
Still no answer from the State Prosecution so far.
The owner of a signature writes it differently every time, a forger would write the same every time because he has trained his hand to do so.
Still no answer from the State Prosecution so far.
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Silentscope wrote:Handwriting expert Werner von Kiedrowski (53) works as a graphologist and type expert in court, supports the police in investigations and is certain: someone like Christian Brückner will finish exactly what he has started.
“It is immediately noticeable that the font is rather small and extremely neat. The size in particular suggests that the man prefers to move in the background and does not want to attract any attention. Such people are usually very precise and petty. ""Each letter chosen with care"
According to the expert, he can act as neatly as Brückner writes: “Every letter has been chosen with care. This person plans things in a very specific and long-term way. ”He is also certain:“ People with such a handwriting are 300 percent accurate and unwaveringly finish what they started. ”
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/news/inland/news-inland/fall-maddie-mccann-handschrift-experte-analysiert-brief-von-christian-brueckner-76735034.bild.html&prev=search&pto=aue
What a load of nonsense.
If CB didn't want to attract attention, why draft such a letter?
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He needs to counterbalance the amount of crap being written about him.
The Bild is Germanys version of the Sun newspaper.
Just as sensational and reliable if you ask me…
The Bild is Germanys version of the Sun newspaper.
Just as sensational and reliable if you ask me…
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So what do you hope to achieve, snooping around after hours - a cheap victory?
You've got a lot to learn.
Trying to ingratiate yourself by private contact with other members and toadying around members on the open forum in order to enhance your reputation is deceitful at best, devious at worse.
If it's a spot of nocturnal phishing you're doing, you need better quality equipment!
Or do you only engage with those you know and trust .... ring any bells eh?
You've got a lot to learn.
Trying to ingratiate yourself by private contact with other members and toadying around members on the open forum in order to enhance your reputation is deceitful at best, devious at worse.
If it's a spot of nocturnal phishing you're doing, you need better quality equipment!
Or do you only engage with those you know and trust .... ring any bells eh?
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sharonl wrote: What a load of nonsense.
If CB didn't want to attract attention, why draft such a letter?
Nonsense is putting it mildly !
Until such times, if ever, credible evidence is forthcoming that directly links Christian Brueckner to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, he is irrelevant.
Just another distraction to add to the ongoing list, courtesy of the media - and it works everytime.
This same nonsense has been propagated for a year now with little or no progress. I wonder if Brueckner even exists in terms of a prolific criminal. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't recall seeing a scrap of evidence to even support, let alone prove, that Brueckner is guilty of any of the crimes reported by the media.
He has been repeatedly referred to as a paedo (media speak), not a very nice accusation if innocent of such a crime and an indiscrimate rapist. In itself very curious considering the alleged video footage showing the rape was found and destroyed by Manfred Seyferth and accomplice - so say Seyferth! He and his partner in crime couldn't even agree on the age of the alleged rape victim.
Would a court of law seriously sentence a suspect to imprisonment on the word of an errant criminal without any evidence?
As I've said before, there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence to support the various Brueckner alleged crimes. A dubious redacted document that bears no semblance to officialdom shown at the beginning of the Discovery+ mockuplenty and further mentioned later in the film by Portuguese journalist, Sandra Felguieras. Yes I was right first time, I've since checked it out and it was Felguieras who features prominently in the production.
This is an elaborate game.
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There was a Sun report online earlier but it's been swiped - drat! I didn't have time to copy and paste over. It was quite lengthy and went into great detail about Brueckner's dapper persona and lifestyle, whilst all the time he was leading a life of crime .... drug dealing, nicking diesel, burglary, raping and molesting children - allegedly.
This is all that remains, along with a daily blog update (?)..
GERMAN cops probing Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B vow there will be "no let up" - despite him whining he is being persecuted.
And detectives believe his prison rant is a "clear sign" he’s “cracking under the weight of suspicion”.
It emerged earlier this week that the convicted rapist and child sex offender, 44, had penned a letter slamming the investigation as a “scandal” and said they “should resign” for “persecuting an innocent person”.
But a source close to the case told Sun Online: “German officers will not be deterred by the words and actions of a criminal.
"They remain convinced he is linked to Maddie’s disappearance and there will be no let up in proving this is the case.
It comes as it was claimed Christian B's "playboy" lifestyle covered up his crimes, with one ex-girlfriend telling the Mirror: "Chris could be very, very charming, very funny and very smooth in the way he talked.
“He always dressed nicely, held the door open, that kind of thing. He drove the nice car – the black Jaguar – was very gentlemanly and spoke properly."
Read our Madeleine McCann live blog below for the latest updates...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15190572/madeleine-mccann-found-news-latest-disappearance-christian-b-update/
This is all that remains, along with a daily blog update (?)..
GERMAN cops probing Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B vow there will be "no let up" - despite him whining he is being persecuted.
And detectives believe his prison rant is a "clear sign" he’s “cracking under the weight of suspicion”.
It emerged earlier this week that the convicted rapist and child sex offender, 44, had penned a letter slamming the investigation as a “scandal” and said they “should resign” for “persecuting an innocent person”.
But a source close to the case told Sun Online: “German officers will not be deterred by the words and actions of a criminal.
"They remain convinced he is linked to Maddie’s disappearance and there will be no let up in proving this is the case.
It comes as it was claimed Christian B's "playboy" lifestyle covered up his crimes, with one ex-girlfriend telling the Mirror: "Chris could be very, very charming, very funny and very smooth in the way he talked.
“He always dressed nicely, held the door open, that kind of thing. He drove the nice car – the black Jaguar – was very gentlemanly and spoke properly."
Read our Madeleine McCann live blog below for the latest updates...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15190572/madeleine-mccann-found-news-latest-disappearance-christian-b-update/
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Kai Feldhaus of the Bild newspaper in Germany reveals that the letter Brückner sent out to various News outlets, apparently without the knowledge of his Defence team, finally found its way to him through a friend.
https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html
https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html
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crime world Episode 32: The horrifying crimes of Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner
Nicola Tallant
June 19 2021 09:15 AM
He’s the oddball German drifter suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann in 2007 who has now been identified by Irish woman Hazel Behan as matching the attacker who raped her in a hotel room in Portugal three years previous.
But as German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters continues his lengthy investigation into the life and crimes of Christian Brueckner, the suspect broke his silence this week when he sent a letter and drawings to German newspaper Bild demanding that Wolters resign.
So what is happening within the German investigation into Brueckner’s links with the Maddie McCann case? And what do his jailhouse writings mean?
Nicola Tallant talks to Bild’s chief reporter Kai Feldhaus about the extraordinary correspondence and the sinister background of the man at the centre of the Maddie disappearance.
https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html
Nicola Tallant
June 19 2021 09:15 AM
He’s the oddball German drifter suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann in 2007 who has now been identified by Irish woman Hazel Behan as matching the attacker who raped her in a hotel room in Portugal three years previous.
But as German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters continues his lengthy investigation into the life and crimes of Christian Brueckner, the suspect broke his silence this week when he sent a letter and drawings to German newspaper Bild demanding that Wolters resign.
So what is happening within the German investigation into Brueckner’s links with the Maddie McCann case? And what do his jailhouse writings mean?
Nicola Tallant talks to Bild’s chief reporter Kai Feldhaus about the extraordinary correspondence and the sinister background of the man at the centre of the Maddie disappearance.
https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html
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Verdi wrote:He contacted the BKA – Germany’s equivalent of the FBI – three weeks ago with the details.
They allegedly replied saying: "Your information will be appropriately incorporated into our work."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15265523/madeleine-mccann-suspect-police-probe-scandal-speaking-first-time/
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We believe we may have found the Podcast done by H Wolters which H Fülscher referred to in an email the other day.
https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/podcast/crime/article232420333/Tatort-Niedersachsen-Der-Fall-Maddie.html
It is in German (SORRY !) so I'll google translate the text from the article.
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"I have to say that I am partly surprised myself at what I am supposed to have said." For the past year, Hans Christian Wolters has been one of the most quoted and interviewed prosecutors in Germany. Whether Russian, American, Australian or British media, he receives daily enquiries about the current state of the investigation in the case of three-year-old Maddie McCann, who disappeared in 2007 from a hotel room in the Portuguese holiday resort Praia da Luz.
In June 2020, the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office went public with their suspicion in the ZDF search programme "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst" that a now 44-year-old German with last residence in Braunschweig might have abducted the British child from her bed in the evening and murdered her. Since then, the world has been looking to Braunschweig in the Maddie case. When it comes to official information on the progress of the investigation, there is only one source for the media representatives: Hans Christian Wolters, the spokesperson of the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig.
Maddie case: More than a thousand tips after witness appeal
In our newspaper's current crime podcast "Tatort Niedersachsen", Wolters reports why he is sometimes annoyed by the media, why going public was nevertheless important for the investigators and what he can and cannot reveal publicly. And he admits: "Personally, I underestimated how long the media echo would last."
According to Wolters, more than a thousand tips have come in since the witness appeal. "In the first few days we were literally overrun with tips from all over the world." It is taking time to process them seriously. The public prosecutor's office is still not disclosing any further details. However, Wolters said in the podcast that the long period of silence and the lack of a decision by the authorities indicate "that our appeal was successful".
Public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters: Have findings and evidence that Maddie is actually dead
At the moment, however, it is not foreseeable "that we will come to a conclusion of the investigation, and I also cannot give a time window in which one can expect fundamental news from us".
For the public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office, the time had come last June when they could have expressed their suspicion that a German had taken Maddie into his custody and killed her, based on the evidence they had been gathering for years. "We have findings and evidence that allow no other conclusion than that Maddie is indeed dead," the prosecutor repeated. So far, this evidence has not been disclosed. The suspect's defence lawyer has also not yet had access to the files.
Who did the Maddie suspect talk to on the phone?
In the search broadcast, the investigators had only spoken of a mobile phone number which could be assigned to the suspect and which had been located in the mobile phone cell to which the hotel complex from which Maddie disappeared also belonged. Who did the suspect talk to on the phone there? That is still unclear.
This evidence is a piece of the puzzle. "But you have to imagine that we have other pieces of the puzzle that complete the picture for us," Wolters said in the podcast.
https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/podcast/crime/article232420333/Tatort-Niedersachsen-Der-Fall-Maddie.html
It is in German (SORRY !) so I'll google translate the text from the article.
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"I have to say that I am partly surprised myself at what I am supposed to have said." For the past year, Hans Christian Wolters has been one of the most quoted and interviewed prosecutors in Germany. Whether Russian, American, Australian or British media, he receives daily enquiries about the current state of the investigation in the case of three-year-old Maddie McCann, who disappeared in 2007 from a hotel room in the Portuguese holiday resort Praia da Luz.
In June 2020, the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office went public with their suspicion in the ZDF search programme "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst" that a now 44-year-old German with last residence in Braunschweig might have abducted the British child from her bed in the evening and murdered her. Since then, the world has been looking to Braunschweig in the Maddie case. When it comes to official information on the progress of the investigation, there is only one source for the media representatives: Hans Christian Wolters, the spokesperson of the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig.
Maddie case: More than a thousand tips after witness appeal
In our newspaper's current crime podcast "Tatort Niedersachsen", Wolters reports why he is sometimes annoyed by the media, why going public was nevertheless important for the investigators and what he can and cannot reveal publicly. And he admits: "Personally, I underestimated how long the media echo would last."
According to Wolters, more than a thousand tips have come in since the witness appeal. "In the first few days we were literally overrun with tips from all over the world." It is taking time to process them seriously. The public prosecutor's office is still not disclosing any further details. However, Wolters said in the podcast that the long period of silence and the lack of a decision by the authorities indicate "that our appeal was successful".
Public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters: Have findings and evidence that Maddie is actually dead
At the moment, however, it is not foreseeable "that we will come to a conclusion of the investigation, and I also cannot give a time window in which one can expect fundamental news from us".
For the public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office, the time had come last June when they could have expressed their suspicion that a German had taken Maddie into his custody and killed her, based on the evidence they had been gathering for years. "We have findings and evidence that allow no other conclusion than that Maddie is indeed dead," the prosecutor repeated. So far, this evidence has not been disclosed. The suspect's defence lawyer has also not yet had access to the files.
Who did the Maddie suspect talk to on the phone?
In the search broadcast, the investigators had only spoken of a mobile phone number which could be assigned to the suspect and which had been located in the mobile phone cell to which the hotel complex from which Maddie disappeared also belonged. Who did the suspect talk to on the phone there? That is still unclear.
This evidence is a piece of the puzzle. "But you have to imagine that we have other pieces of the puzzle that complete the picture for us," Wolters said in the podcast.
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This evidence is a piece of the puzzle. "But you have to imagine that we have other pieces of the puzzle that complete the picture for us," Wolters said in the podcast.
I imagine they are trying to re-arrange the Puzzle to suit whatever it is that is most likely to convince the Public of Brückners guilt.
It will never go to a Court because latest then, the Staatsanwalt Wolters would have to present his case.
I imagine they are trying to re-arrange the Puzzle to suit whatever it is that is most likely to convince the Public of Brückners guilt.
It will never go to a Court because latest then, the Staatsanwalt Wolters would have to present his case.
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Silentscope wrote:It will never go to a Court because latest then, the Staatsanwalt Wolters would have to present his case.
And Germany, in common with other Roman Law jurisdictions, has an INQUISITORIAL system.
It is not whether the Prosecution can prove the case, and the defence cannot adequately defend it.
The FACTS get brought out.
The Judge and the Schöffner, [the lay magistrates who assist the judge] are empowered to ask questions, and do so.
They ask about the facts, to establish what has been established and what has not.
They can identify gaps in the prosecution and defence arguments and fill them in.
It can be quite exciting to watch.
If you are Not Guilty, it is a far better system
The English Accusatorial system favours the Guilty
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Australian journalist Mark Saunokonoko podcast. Resumé of alleged conversation between Mark Saunokonoko and German prosecutor Christian Wolters..
MS "Do you know with 100% certainty that CB was in PdL on the night that Madeleine vanished?"
The reply is that it's an assumption. They can't prove CB was using the phone or that he was in PdL when he did so. Wolters didn't know that the mast didn't belong to the Ocean Club and he didn't know the size of the area it covered.
MS "The German police have described it as a homicide investigation and the Metropolitan police as a missing person investigation... Which one is correct and how long has it been confirmed?"
Due to their evidence the germans have to say that Madeleine is dead and CB killed her. Wolters doesn't know why the UK police are investigating a missing person. He says the Germans have no body or part of a body and no forensic evidence. The evidence is strong enough to talk about, but not enough to lay charges or issue an arrest warrant. They became sure during the last two years.
Wolters doesn't know what evidence the Met have. MS asked them and they replied;
"We do not have definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead"
mMS "Do you believe your suspect acted alone?"
Wolters declined to comment.
MS "Is the concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead or that CB is responsible for her murder?"
Wolters "Both; it's combined, it's the same"
MS "Why hasn't CB been charged?"
Wolters says they can't charge until they're sure they'll get a conviction, and they're not. Their evidence isn't strong enough to get an arrest warrant for the crime.
MS "What exactly do you need?"
Wolters doesn't know. Maybe witnesses, photos or a video. All he knows is that they need more.
MS asks about the dogs. Wolters isn't allowed to comment on the past investigations or whether his concrete evidence fits the suggestion that there may have been a death in 5A.
Asked about the Smith sighting Wolters didn't comment.
Finally Wolters says it will be weeks or months before they will know if they have enough to charge CB. He doesn't know if they will suceed, but he's hopeful. Only after CB is charged will the concrete evidence be revealed.
https://omny.fm/shows/they-ve-taken-her/maddies-dead?in_playlist=they-ve-taken-her!podcast#description
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16499-podcasts-madeleine-mccann#438678
MS "Do you know with 100% certainty that CB was in PdL on the night that Madeleine vanished?"
The reply is that it's an assumption. They can't prove CB was using the phone or that he was in PdL when he did so. Wolters didn't know that the mast didn't belong to the Ocean Club and he didn't know the size of the area it covered.
MS "The German police have described it as a homicide investigation and the Metropolitan police as a missing person investigation... Which one is correct and how long has it been confirmed?"
Due to their evidence the germans have to say that Madeleine is dead and CB killed her. Wolters doesn't know why the UK police are investigating a missing person. He says the Germans have no body or part of a body and no forensic evidence. The evidence is strong enough to talk about, but not enough to lay charges or issue an arrest warrant. They became sure during the last two years.
Wolters doesn't know what evidence the Met have. MS asked them and they replied;
"We do not have definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead"
mMS "Do you believe your suspect acted alone?"
Wolters declined to comment.
MS "Is the concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead or that CB is responsible for her murder?"
Wolters "Both; it's combined, it's the same"
MS "Why hasn't CB been charged?"
Wolters says they can't charge until they're sure they'll get a conviction, and they're not. Their evidence isn't strong enough to get an arrest warrant for the crime.
MS "What exactly do you need?"
Wolters doesn't know. Maybe witnesses, photos or a video. All he knows is that they need more.
MS asks about the dogs. Wolters isn't allowed to comment on the past investigations or whether his concrete evidence fits the suggestion that there may have been a death in 5A.
Asked about the Smith sighting Wolters didn't comment.
Finally Wolters says it will be weeks or months before they will know if they have enough to charge CB. He doesn't know if they will suceed, but he's hopeful. Only after CB is charged will the concrete evidence be revealed.
https://omny.fm/shows/they-ve-taken-her/maddies-dead?in_playlist=they-ve-taken-her!podcast#description
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16499-podcasts-madeleine-mccann#438678
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Madeleine McCann suspect’s ex had secret Algarve compound guarded by fierce dogs
Madeleine MCann investigators have been told of a secret compound on the Algarve owned by Christian Brueckner’s ex-girlfriend.
Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter went back to speak to the German equivalent of the FBI for a second time.
Prosecutors have confirmed he gave a lengthy interview and that they are seriously examining this new lead.
Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007 just a few days before her fourth birthday.
Nicole lived in Portugal at the time with Brueckner, who has been identified as the chief suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance.
Nicole Fehlinger had access to compound
(Image: Phil Harris)
Mr Fehlinger has told investigators that Nicole and Brueckner had a secret compound on the Algarve which no-one else had been aware of.
He said it was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any in the world.
Mr Fehlinger said: “No one knows that my daughter not only had the private residence in Portugal at her disposal, but also a separate compound.
“No-one has ever searched there or the property has never turned up in connection with Maddie, Brueckner or Nicole.
German prosecutors believe Madeleine McCann was murdered
(Image: PA)
Police mugshot of Christian Brueckner
(Image: ITALIAN CARABINIERI PRESS OFFICE)
“It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night.
“The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her.”
The secret compound is on land very close to the house where Nicole lived on the Algarve, 38 miles from Praia da Luz.
The mother of three was part of a fostering programme in Portugal for troubled German youngsters. There is no suggestion she had anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics.
German Police are only investigating Brueckner over the case. He is currently in jail after being convicted of other offences including rape.
Last year they named Brueckner, 44, as the prime suspect in Madeleine going missing after phone records placed him in the resort on the night she vanished.
The paedophile has accused prosecutors of bringing “shame” to the German legal system by making “scandalous” statements against him.
Nicole, also 44, was in a relationship with him for a couple of years after they met in a bar.
Court documents in Portugal revealed they had regular phone conversations and enjoyed a weekend break in Lisbon together just months after Madeleine disappeared.
Nicole worked as a hotel receptionist before returning to Wurzburg, Germany, around 10 years ago.
It remains unclear if they continued their relationship when Brueckner returned to Braunschweig to open a bar in 2012.
https://todayuknews.com/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-ex-had-secret-algarve-compound-guarded-by-fierce-dogs/
Madeleine MCann investigators have been told of a secret compound on the Algarve owned by Christian Brueckner’s ex-girlfriend.
Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter went back to speak to the German equivalent of the FBI for a second time.
Prosecutors have confirmed he gave a lengthy interview and that they are seriously examining this new lead.
Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007 just a few days before her fourth birthday.
Nicole lived in Portugal at the time with Brueckner, who has been identified as the chief suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance.
Nicole Fehlinger had access to compound
(Image: Phil Harris)
Mr Fehlinger has told investigators that Nicole and Brueckner had a secret compound on the Algarve which no-one else had been aware of.
He said it was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any in the world.
Mr Fehlinger said: “No one knows that my daughter not only had the private residence in Portugal at her disposal, but also a separate compound.
“No-one has ever searched there or the property has never turned up in connection with Maddie, Brueckner or Nicole.
German prosecutors believe Madeleine McCann was murdered
(Image: PA)
Police mugshot of Christian Brueckner
(Image: ITALIAN CARABINIERI PRESS OFFICE)
“It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night.
“The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her.”
The secret compound is on land very close to the house where Nicole lived on the Algarve, 38 miles from Praia da Luz.
The mother of three was part of a fostering programme in Portugal for troubled German youngsters. There is no suggestion she had anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics.
German Police are only investigating Brueckner over the case. He is currently in jail after being convicted of other offences including rape.
Last year they named Brueckner, 44, as the prime suspect in Madeleine going missing after phone records placed him in the resort on the night she vanished.
The paedophile has accused prosecutors of bringing “shame” to the German legal system by making “scandalous” statements against him.
Nicole, also 44, was in a relationship with him for a couple of years after they met in a bar.
Court documents in Portugal revealed they had regular phone conversations and enjoyed a weekend break in Lisbon together just months after Madeleine disappeared.
Nicole worked as a hotel receptionist before returning to Wurzburg, Germany, around 10 years ago.
It remains unclear if they continued their relationship when Brueckner returned to Braunschweig to open a bar in 2012.
https://todayuknews.com/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-ex-had-secret-algarve-compound-guarded-by-fierce-dogs/
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Madeleine McCann suspect and ex had secret Portugal compound guarded by fierce dogs
EXCLUSIVE: Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter has spoken to the German equivalent of the FBI about his daughter and Christian Brueckner's secret compound in Portugal guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs
ByAndy Lines
20:14, 25 JUN 2021UPDATED20:25, 25 JUN 2021
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965
#makesyerfonkdunnit
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It's taken 14 years for this to surface?
If memory serves me well, the father featured in the Discovery+ mockuplenty, why didn't he mention it then?
I will check it out at my leisure!
Watch this space ....
EXCLUSIVE: Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter has spoken to the German equivalent of the FBI about his daughter and Christian Brueckner's secret compound in Portugal guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs
ByAndy Lines
20:14, 25 JUN 2021UPDATED20:25, 25 JUN 2021
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965
#makesyerfonkdunnit
....................
It's taken 14 years for this to surface?
If memory serves me well, the father featured in the Discovery+ mockuplenty, why didn't he mention it then?
I will check it out at my leisure!
Watch this space ....
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5,000 square metres is just over an acre. 2/3 the size of a football pitch (7,140m2)
It is smaller than the size allowed in Spain to build a house in the campo, (10,000 m2)
It is a small scrub field with some wire round it, like many small scrub fields with wire round them all over the south of the Iberian peninsular.
It is highly unlikely that the dogs were Kangal, which are Turkish.
More likely they were Mastins, which are usual in sheep and goat herding communities in Spain, (and I assume Portugal)
In any event they need feeding and watering every couple of days.
The use of the word "Compound" implies buildings, walls, secrecy, rather then just a numbered plot, and Secret . . . is just Tabloid stupid. The alleged aerial shot shows other plots with buildings, and you can hardly hide Plot no 46.
"No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her." Or anyone with the key, or the ability to climb over a wire fence.
But then if we track down the "secret compound" from the photos in the Mirror
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965
we find that it is in fact in a nice rural development of the type seen all over southern Iberia. Building licences being granted to previously agricultural land, and new villas with pools spreading inexorably.
It is smaller than the size allowed in Spain to build a house in the campo, (10,000 m2)
It is a small scrub field with some wire round it, like many small scrub fields with wire round them all over the south of the Iberian peninsular.
It is highly unlikely that the dogs were Kangal, which are Turkish.
More likely they were Mastins, which are usual in sheep and goat herding communities in Spain, (and I assume Portugal)
In any event they need feeding and watering every couple of days.
The use of the word "Compound" implies buildings, walls, secrecy, rather then just a numbered plot, and Secret . . . is just Tabloid stupid. The alleged aerial shot shows other plots with buildings, and you can hardly hide Plot no 46.
"No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her." Or anyone with the key, or the ability to climb over a wire fence.
But then if we track down the "secret compound" from the photos in the Mirror
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965
we find that it is in fact in a nice rural development of the type seen all over southern Iberia. Building licences being granted to previously agricultural land, and new villas with pools spreading inexorably.
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