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Nick Fagge in Praia da Luz - 11th January 2008


THE investigation into [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] disappearance has been hijacked by her parents' "gigantic propaganda machine", Portuguese detectives have claimed.

Senior police officers have condemned the recruitment of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], the Spanish private detective agency hired by the couple to find their daughter.

And they have claimed that the 39-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leicestershire are using a string of "new [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]" reported recently as "diversion tactics" aimed at distracting the police away from the couple.

A source close to the official police investigation told the Daily Express: "Who do the McCanns think they are? "The discovery of new witnesses in the last few weeks lead the authorities to believe they are at war with a gigantic propaganda machine.
 
Gerry and Kate McCann : But have they helped the police investigation'

"The McCanns have some very powerful people on their side - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], even [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]."

This week salesman [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], 34, from Hampshire told how he confronted an intruder trying to break into the same [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from where Madeleine disappeared just days before the British youngster vanished.

Last week Irishman [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], from Drogheda, County Louth, told how he saw a man carrying a child towards the beach shortly before 10pm on the night of May 3, about the time that Madeleine disappeared.

In December sisters Annie Wiltshire, 58, and Jayne Jensen, 54, both from Kent, told police they saw suspect
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And in November Metodo 3 revealed how a lorry driver told them he saw a woman handing a young child over to a man near the town of Silves, 25 miles from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], two days after Madeleine disappeared.

Criticism of the McCanns has peaked in recent days following revelations that they are in talks with film-makers to make a film about their daughter's disappearance, already dubbed 'Madeleine the Movie'.
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31st December 2007

Six key witnesses have now cast serious doubt on the alibi of Madeleine McCann suspect Robert Murat.

The latest is a British barrister who insists he saw Mr Murat in the hours after the three-year-old vanished from her holiday apartment in Portugal - at a time when the suspect claimed he was with his mother.

Madeleine's mother Kate has now told friends she has her own suspicions over Mr Murat, and has demanded he tells the truth over his whereabouts on the night the girl disappeared.

 The key witnesses are:

' Holidaymaker Jayne Jensen, a 54-year-old businesswoman. In a statement to police she said she saw Mr Murat smoking a cigarette on the street corner opposite the apartment half an hour after Madeleine disappeared.

'The barrister, who has not been named but was on holiday and was pictured in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine vanished. He has given a witness statement that corroborates what Ms Jensen said.

The next evening he and Ms Jensen were talking about the disappearance on an apartment balcony when Mr Murat joined them for a drink.

The barrister has described Mr Murat's behaviour that evening as "odd", saying Mr Murat insisted on going to change his clothes because it had been a long day - when they were certain he had already changed earlier.

 ' Three friends of the McCanns. It is understood they have given statements to police insisting Mr Murat introduced himself to them on the night Madeleine vanished. It is claimed he said: "I am Robert. Can I help in the search'" Mr Murat subsequently acted as a translator between the police and the McCanns up until he was made a suspect.

' Charlotte Pennington, a nanny working at the Ocean Club resort. She claims to have seen Mr Murat in the hours after Madeleine vanished.

A source close to Mrs McCann told the Standard: "Kate has always felt there are questions concerning Murat that need to be answered.

"Gerry doesn't know whether he is involved but Kate has always been suspicious. There is a body of evidence contrary to what he [Murat] is saying.

"He has said he was not there on the night and now we have a number of people who have come forward quite independently of us and have volunteered information directly in contradiction to what he has said.

"The latest witness is a barrister who has corroborated what others have said."

Mr Murat, 34, strongly denies any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance on 3 May. He has always claimed to have spent the evening at his mother Jenny's villa a hundred yards from where the girl vanished.

 Earlier this month Mrs Murat, 71, said anybody who claimed to have seen her son on the night of 3 May was a liar. But she also appeared to contradict her son's version of how he learned Madeleine was missing.

Mrs Murat claimed she woke him up in the morning to tell him the news of the missing child. But, according to the official version, his lawyer Francisco Pagarete said Mr Murat was in his garden when he found out from a British holidaymaker helping in the search.

Investigators are probing Mrs Murat's claim. A source close to the McCanns said: "Murat was there that night. His mother may be protecting him.

"He is her son and most mothers would protect their children. Either she knows something or she is mistaken."

 Doubts over Mr Murat's alibi do not prove he has any connection with Madeleine's disappearance, and police are understood to have found no forensic links.

But he has been an official suspect for more than seven months despite repeated claims in Portuguese media that he would be cleared at any moment.

It is understood his lawyer could seek to have his suspect status removed on Thursday, but this bid is likely to fail while the investigation continues.

The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, also remain suspects, although the police investigation appears to be moving away from their involvement.
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Post by Guest 16.11.18 1:04

There would appear to be a very very heavy shadow of doubt over the integrity of the McCanns private investigators - very very well remunerated private investigators.

With nil results I might say - at least as regards finding Madeleine think .  However, no shortage of bogus sightings and bogus witnesses - you pays your money - you takes your choice.
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Post by sar 16.11.18 8:53

“He made my blood run cold”
[Philomena Cunk voice]
 
“His hair seemed weirdly slick, like a bird had poo’ed in his hair and he’d just styled in in!”
“I looked at his face, ce’tait comme Le Visage sans Yeux!”
“He has a suede “Blouson” style jacket, frightening enough but his arm looked like a haunch of venison! 
“He seemed to be carrying a “lifeless” “PJ clad child!”
He had a weird “Smooth” bum, one leg looked longer than the other!”
“His trousers had no creases then around his shoes they just went mental for no reason!”
“His upper half seemed very well defined!  A bit like the scribbly cartoon people from the AHA video “Take me on”, when you got to his feet he was more like a moon-walking ghost!”
 
Terrifying!!
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Post by Guest 16.11.18 22:51

Reading between the lines..

THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN
 
On we pressed with our campaign to spread the word across Europe. We had decided it would further our cause to visit one or two key countries ourselves and appeal personally to their people for help, seeking assistance and advice from politicians and children’s charities. We wanted to reach some of the hundreds of potential witnesses from elsewhere on the continent who had been on holiday in the Algarve around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance. Perhaps even more importantly, it was quite possible that Madeleine was in another country now. Had anyone noticed a little girl who seemed out of place, or somebody behaving suspiciously?

We chose Spain first, as it is so close to Portugal. After the British and Irish, most other visitors to the Algarve are German or Dutch, so we added Berlin and Amsterdam to the itinerary. Finally, we felt we needed to venture beyond Europe, to north Africa. Morocco was so easily accessible from Praia da Luz – ferries make the thirty-five-minute crossing from Tarifa in Spain to Tangiers several times a day – that there was a distinct possibility Madeleine could have been taken there. The Foreign Office helped us by arranging consular assistance in all these countries.

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

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So that was the reason for the European/North African tour - to 'reach' some of the hundreds of potential witnesses  think?  Would these potential witnesses be one and the same as those who claimed this that and the other, that never led anywhere but a blind alley?  The same ones responsible for wasting the time and money of the glorious country of Portugal?  At the same time accusing the country of harbouring an extensive very serious pedophile syndicate?

As an aside, when calculating the inordinate sums of money wasted in this masquerade - who paid for the European/North African tour.  Has the Foreign Office, Embassy and Consulate expenditure been included in the global figure - the £11 million +?

The public, who actually pay for all this squandering of funds, have been duped - yes, I say duped !!!  

The investigation into all these fake sightings 'arranged' by bogus private detectives in the employ of Messrs McCann & Co. Ltd.  - where did the money come from to follow the false trail left by these dubious characters?  Why the public purse of course.

The Find Madeleine Campaign owes the public big time - not just in the UK but Portugal and the rest of the world.
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Gerry and Kate McCann talk at Sandra Felgueiras about documented witness sightings and their possible significance @ approx. 30:00 minutes..


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Post by Jill Havern 16.11.18 23:41

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Not the best look, if I may say so.

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Oh I think it's just perfect - Wallace and Gromit laughat
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Post by willowthewisp 17.11.18 18:19

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At approx0.41 seconds,that smug smile,"dupers delight",arm reaching around the Back,"Getting ready for Bracelets"!

Seriously,watch any Police Shows,people have been arrested for less evidence,on suspission of a Crime?
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Post by Guest 18.11.18 23:24

Jayne Jensen wrote:As they and the other holidaymakers combed the area, Mrs Jensen met another member of her tennis coaching group, TV producer Jez Wilkins.

"Jez told me it was Gerry's daughter we were looking for. I hadn't realised before that moment.

"Jez said that he knew Gerry had checked the children because he had met him coming back from the apartment."


Jez Wilkins wrote:The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I learnt to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, and tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I learnt him to be a diabetics specialist. We met him o the way to the destination.

Matt said XXXXX to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted, and that Jerry said that he had met me and wanted to know if I had seen anything. I said 'You're joking'.

I offered help but they said there was nothing that could be done at that stage. We remained at the apartment but could see people around the pool and at the front with torches. I also saw the police arriving. We then went to bed.

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Post by Guest 18.11.18 23:54

Robert Murat - the stool pigeon or just plain pigeon stool?

How the McCann faction tried to implicate Robert Murat.  They traveled far and wide in quest of pliable witnesses to verify seeing Murat around the crime scene on the night of 3rd/4th May 2007, at least until another witness appeared like a bolt from the blue to exonerate Robert Murat as a potentially suspect abductor .... that person was one Martin Smith from Ireland.

Awkward!

So the Robert Murat focus was slowly but surely mollified until late December 2007 and early January 2008 when the McCann faction again jumped into action to pursue the viable witnesses and urge them to conjure up descriptions of their claimed sightings and hopefully something in the way of an e-fit, or should I say e-fits!

Although there was/is no consistency from one witness sighting to another, Robert Murat makes a guest appearance as the midnight lurker outside the crime scene.  Witness sightings vary but I guess what better way to create total confusion than by placing any number of possible suspects around the crime scene around the alleged time of Madeleine's disappearance.  Folk don't sell their soul to the devil for nothing - I wonder what incentives were offered to make their involvement worthwhile.

With the exception of Martin Smith from Ireland, the key witnesses with information about potential suspects all say the same - they reported their sightings to the police, Portugal and/or the UK, who ignored them until ......  Conversely, Martin Smith did report his sighting three weeks after the event when Robert Murat was made arguido, then only to confirm that it was definitely not Robert Murat he witnessed on the night of 3rd May 2007.  As suggested above, the Robert Murat focus phased out around the same time until the McCann faction re-focused at the beginning of 2008.

This is not intended to be yet another Smithman thread, it is an attempt to understand the correlation between the fabricated witness sightings and the McCanns with the help of their hired accomplices - the private detectives!

As I've said before, contrary to popular belief, the McCanns are not clever but they are downright cunning - a million times worse in my view.
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This is the mystery couple believed to have been seen with Madeleine McCann three days after she vanished.
 
The sketches were drawn exclusively for the Mirror by a police artist on the evidence of witness Anna Stam, 41, who saw the trio in Amsterdam.
They show a dark-featured man aged 35-40 with a moustache, who was speaking in Portuguese, and a brown-haired woman in her 40s who was talking French.
 
Anna, who was flown to London by the Mirror to aid the hunt, said: "They fit the faces I remember. I just hope it's not too late."
The shop assistant claims a girl with the couple told her: "My name is Maddy", adding, "They took me from my holiday".
 
It emerged yesterday that there were three more sightings of Madeleine, then three, in nearby Belgium in the weeks after she disappeared.
Anna was praying last night she had given new hope to grieving Kate McCann.
Anna was stunned Kate and husband Gerry have still not received her statement about a suspected sighting of missing daughter Madeleine with a mystery couple three days after she vanished.
 
She said: "I hope something will come of this and Kate and Gerry will find their little girl. I want to help get her back to them.
 
"I can't believe they didn't know about this. Did these people take Madeleine? We may never know. I only hope it's not too late.
 
"But now I have a good feeling about this. This is the first time something will be done with the information I gave over a year ago."
Anna, 41, spoke out after arriving in London to meet a police artist and representatives of the McCanns.
 
Pledging to instruct investigators to make Anna's dramatic sighting a priority, family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "I'm grateful to the Mirror for bringing her to us.
"Her evidence could be very significant. Our investigators will interview her in the next few days."
 
Anna saw the couple with the Madeleine lookalike in her party shop in Amsterdam on May 6 last year.
The drawings based on her recollection show a dark-featured man of average height, aged 35-40 with small eyes and wearing a moustache. He was speaking Portuguese.
 
The woman was in her 40s with light brown hair. She was speaking French.
Anna, who claims she has a photographic memory, said the images are far better than a computer e-fit by Dutch police a year ago.
"They're much clearer and more lifelike. They fit the faces I remember.
"I'll never forget the girl. She had her hair in a ponytail, huge green-brown eyes and a pale face which showed no emotion.
 
"I didn't like the man, he didn't look like a nice person.
"I work in a party shop so most people smile when they come in to buy things.
"But he didn't smile back at me when I smiled at him. He had no sparkle in his eyes.
"He was short with me and seemed angry. I got the feeling he didn't want me to interfere with him and the others."
 
The woman, she said, seemed "stressed and uncomfortable".
Anna said: "She tried to smile at me but it was out of obligation not from the heart.
"The whole way they reacted made a big impression on me. The man spoke in Portuguese. I know because I have Brazilian friends.
 
"The woman spoke in French while the little girl spoke English. It didn't seem like a real family."
 
Anna's sighting emerged in Portuguese police files this week in which she disclosed that the girl told her: "My name is Maddy."
The child said of the woman: "She is not my mummy. They took me from my holiday."
 
It strengthened fears that Madeleine was snatched to order from her Algarve holiday home in Praia da Luz by a Belgian paedophile gang.
Anna said: "Because this woman spoke French, I immediately thought they would go to Belgium or France.
 
"The woman told me she was in a station wagon, a larger car. Maybe they were going on a long journey.
 
"Looking at the artist's drawings make me feel uncomfortable.


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"Maybe I could have done something more.
"Maybe the police could have taken it more seriously."
Anna told Dutch police a month later when she saw reports of Madeleine's disappearance.
 
A full report was sent to Portugal on June 18 last year. It is not known what action was taken.
 
But the sighting was never made public and Kate and Gerry, both 40, of Rothley, Leics, were never told.
Before meeting a McCann representative at a hotel in East London, Anna said: "When I told police about this, I presumed the McCanns would be told.
"I still can't believe they weren't."
 
Yesterday Mr Mitchell said McCann investigators would quiz Anna in Dutch.
He said: "The principal is always to speak to a witness in their mother tongue so there's absolutely no confusion over what they saw or heard."
Mr Mitchell again blasted the Portuguese police for not passing Anna's statement to the McCanns.
 
He said: "Anna did the right thing in contacting the Dutch police. But I find it shocking that the Portuguese police weren't even in touch, either with her or with us.
 
"If they ruled her sighting out then fine, we'll rule it out as well. But we just don't know at this stage."


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Post by Jill Havern 19.11.18 14:48

Pretendy witness Anna Stam
Saw a trio in Amsterdam
She flew to London to aid the hunt
Dave Edgar said: "You silly old cu bint, blushing1
You're having a laff Madam!"
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Mr Mitchell again blasted the Portuguese police for not passing Anna's statement to the McCanns.


Since when do the police pass witness statements to prime suspects? huh

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Post by willowthewisp 19.11.18 17:12

Jill Havern wrote:Pretendy witness Anna Stam
Saw a trio in Amsterdam
She flew to London to aid the hunt
Dave Edgar said: "You silly old cu bint, blushing1
You're having a laff Madam!"
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Mr Mitchell again blasted the Portuguese police for not passing Anna's statement to the McCanns.


Since when do the police pass witness statements to prime suspects? huh
The McCann's did try to obtain from UK Courts the right to see Leicestershire Police files about Madeleine McCann!

With the Eleven years passing of time since Madeleine was last seen alive and well,you don't suppose there has been enough evidence obtained that could suffice to charges of,"Perverting a Course of Justice",of these purported sightings,Obtaining Money by deception from the "Find Madeleine Fund,E-fits,No they were all doing their civil service eh Clarence,Amsterdam Darling,Metodo 3 in close affinity!
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UK Cops are probing new persons of interest in the disappearance of toddler Maddie.

The hunt is on for these people seen lurking about the Ocean Club on the night of the toddlers abduction..

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ooops Sorry - wrong one! .... whisper where did that come from ....

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That's better! .... whisper think that's the latest one ....

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Post by Cmaryholmes 24.05.19 16:57

I hope they don’t forget to investigate the Eggman with side parting.
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Cmaryholmes wrote:I hope they don’t forget to investigate the Eggman with side parting.
( I tried to upload his picture but failed confused)

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Some things are just too good to go unnoticed.

Me? I think he should have been labeled morphman, so many transitions did he go through.
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Post by Cmaryholmes 25.05.19 8:46

Verdi wrote:
Cmaryholmes wrote:I hope they don’t forget to investigate the Eggman with side parting.
( I tried to upload his picture but failed confused)

Allow me hat ....

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Some things are just too good to go unnoticed.  

Me?  I think he should have been labeled morphman, so many transitions did he go through.
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The evolution of morphman..

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