Re: Alternative Theorizing

by ClarityCalling 21.01.23 22:03

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^{A govt.Larp is as you can see from our dear Wikipedia - a real thing- which I'm proposing as a possible new line of inquiry for the Madeliene McCann case --I have researched extensively for years and call out with a small group of likeminded researchers on social media, a big very layered Satanic Ritual Abuse[SRA] govt.larp in the USA - it is run by the CIA, and it links to Q which was a politically motivated pro-Trump psyop. The SRA Govt.Larp discredits real survivors and provides cover for REAL child sex traffickers plus dupes [dupe-divide] and distracts the masses and of course grifts for donanations. Eventually, kind people donating to help prevent evil become weary at all the [intentional] contradictions and when real survivors come forth - apathy has long ago set in. This is but a few objectives of a govt.larp it also of course as I suggested earlier 'buries bad news' The McCanns were gteed front page news and the flames can be fanned any time the Government or the rogue agents in Intelligence Services want a distraction.}

^{I will research the McCann case as a gov.Larp in due course, right now it fits the smell test.}

^{I do not agree to my posts being moved to your 'baseless theorising' category btw ---I am a published Amazon Best Selling author , blogger, child sex abuse survivor and worked in No 7 WTC - the red hot smoking gun in the 9/11 psyop - yes cognative disonance prevents many humans accepting that their Government will and do kill citizens but that does NOT mean these things do not occur. Child sex abuse Survivors are highly motivated to expose perpetrators and save other children from the fate they suffered themselves. We do not know what Madeleine suffered, and by whom, but the UK Government and British Media aided by her family and friends have fed off this little girl, havent they?}
^{Anf this excellent group have done incredible research to date, a new angle may also bear fuit, who knows?}
^{Rather than move my posts - which I find a tad offensive tbh ----kindly leave herein or simply delete them, your choice and I respect that totally.}
^{Many thanks}

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by mickypoppins 23.10.23 10:31

This just popped up in my Twitter feed and it is the first time I have seen it. It could be the definitive link to Tony Podesta. There are a number of photos like this one with other celebrities wearing the same foot wear and there is a link to child abuse that can be seen in artwork and other evidence if you head down the rabbit hole. It shocked me because it would explain a lot.
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by mickypoppins 23.10.23 10:35

Of course it could be a photoshop job. Not sure what to think.

by Guest 23.10.23 11:15

that one is already very long in circulation, but putting a name on someone is not really the same as being that person. and it does not look even very much like gerry mccann, there arte enough early pictures of him.

so it is debunked long time ago. the same with the podesta's. it is just part of a hoax used to misled people, as a byline of the pizza cellars that never realized and some odd murmurs about hilary clinton.

in my country there is also always some stories going around over very bad crimes against very young children, except, there are no known children missing. most who are missing are parental fights, and others they are more cases where children are missing, but still is a good idea how that got together, only they are only not found yet.

but going by the numbers, it it not that highly likely such events are even possible at all.

and the people who bring these kind of stories out have often a long standing career in a world of believing, instead of knowing what they talk about, and most are simply not agreeing with the diagnosis about their minds. and it is a sideshow from the online world, people who before only just have been noted as the village fool, now find a world of others to fool too.

the problems is these fools do make victims. they do not proof anything, they do harm other people by their actions. and there is enough of bad things already, there is no need for their fantasy too. real life can be cruel enough.

the people who put the name to the picture, are actually telling you, they have no clue about this case, otherwise they would have not written the name wrong.

and you could have used google to search for the picture, and read up about it. it recirculated mostly on tiktok and twitter. the minefield of fakes, and not even deep ones.

by **Silentscope** 23.10.23 12:15

All these old Members that have so few Posts always seem to Surface when things get interesting, or certain Topics come up.

That is my Observation.

by Guest 23.10.23 12:16

by **sharonl** 23.10.23 19:51

mickypoppins wrote:This just popped up in my Twitter feed and it is the first time I have seen it. It could be the definitive link to Tony Podesta. There are a number of photos like this one with other celebrities wearing the same foot wear and there is a link to child abuse that can be seen in artwork and other evidence if you head down the rabbit hole. It shocked me because it would explain a lot.
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I think that I have heard something like this before, it is very vague though.

We cannot see Podestas' face in that pic and is that really Gerald McCann thinking

Maybe not,

We would need more on this, that pic alone is too vague.

by **Silentscope** 23.10.23 21:42

Maybe this Charity idea is more responsible than Satan?

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Habits of living, stereotyping, attention robbing, obfuscation, and busyness encourage us to take for granted so much of our lives. Daily opportunities to experience joy, wonder, satisfaction, and appreciation go unnoticed. Injustices that should and could be remedied perpetuate their known and unknown costs enabled by dominant discourses and neglect.

A deliberate and mindful context must be established and made known to everyone attending a Walk Event. Walk a Mile in Her Shoes:registered: leverages the power of stereotype and the "taken for granted" into powerful experiences that can startle given the "simplicity" of these actions.

One way of playfully contextualizing the existential experience of walking in women's high-heeled shoes for men can be [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

@Sharoni
Yes, that is Podesta. No that is not Gerry McCann

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by **Tony Bennett** 24.10.23 12:06

Possibly worth revisiting this thread:

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Professor Gerald McCann's trip to Washington, basically to see Ernie Allen - over a period of 5 days, takes some explaining.

I seem to recollect that Ernie Allen was a mate of Richard Branson, for example

by Guest 24.10.23 12:33

Tony, with the greatest respect, this Podesta connection nonsense died and was buried very long ago - that's where is should stay.

There is no evidence nor indication of a connection between Gerry McCann and the Podesta brothers, nor any other dubious character previously named.

The brief encounter with Clement Freud during the summer of 2007 I strongly suspect was engineered by their media monitoring agent at the time, Clarence Mitchell.

There have been quite a few unpleasant allegations suggested over the years, trying to link Gerry McCann with organised paedophilia - not very fair is it, without any evidence to support the allegations.

People have taken their own lives for far less accusations.

I think we should be very careful about what is presented on this forum, accusations of paedophilia even by association, will never rub-off - they are there for life.

Careless talk costs lives.

by **Silentscope** 24.10.23 13:38

It was Tony Podesta’s Birthday party.

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Posted October 23, 2009 at 4:41pm

Democratic power broker Tony Podesta was scheduled to celebrate his 65th birthday in style with a “red shoe— fete at the National Museum of Women in the Arts on Friday night. Riffing off of Podesta’s penchant for wearing red loafers, the party invite billed the event as “A Red Shoe Affair.— Guests were encouraged to “glamour up and join us to celebrate— — red shoes optional.
“I’ve had nothing to do with it,— Podesta said of planning the fete. “I was informed I was to be there.—
Podesta said the idea was spawned by his “home wife and office wife,— Heather Podesta and Podesta Group CEO Kimberley Fritts.
While the event was expected to draw several prominent K Streeters, with the last House votes Friday morning, Podesta said he wasn’t expecting a large contingency of lawmakers to attend. The event was planned to comply with House and Senate ethics rules, according to the invite.
In lieu of gifts, guests were encouraged to bring new or gently used shoes for a donation to Soles4Souls, a charity that provides shoes to adults and children in need.
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Busted.

by **Silentscope** 25.10.23 17:35

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From an unconfirmed Source with a wider angle.

Tony Podesta was Born October 24, 1943.

by Guest 25.10.23 20:23

And your point is?

by **Silentscope** 25.10.23 20:47

Person 8 is NOT Gerry McCann.

by **sharonl** 25.10.23 20:50

Verdi wrote:And your point is?

If we do a bit of research on this we may have a point. There are so many politicians and celebrities supporting the McCanns, there must be a link somewhere.

Silentscope,

Do you have any further information on this at the moment? A list of high profile members would be nice. thumbsup

by Guest 25.10.23 21:03

If you can find an incontrovertible link between Gerry McCann and one or both the Podesta brothers, or any of their clique, I should be truly astounded.

by **Silentscope** 25.10.23 21:08

I was concentrating on clearing up the Madeleine aspect.

Scott Morisson was the Australian Prime Minister. He had a friend whose own family reported him for his QAnon views including Ritual Satanic stuff.

Here is a link to that Story:
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That is where the Satanic angle came in.

by **sharonl** 25.10.23 21:10

Verdi wrote:If you can find an incontrovertible link between Gerry McCann and one or both the Podesta brothers, or any of their clique, I should be truly astounded.

I too would be astounded if there was a link to Gerry. But when you consider people like Sir Clement Freud and others like him who support the McCanns, you may well wonder where all these people hang out. Just look at Saville's group of friends, and Epsteins.

by Guest 25.10.23 21:24

As I've said before, I don't think Freud can be considered as anything but a bloke who happened to be in Portugal at the time.

The meeting I shouldn't wonder was arranged by Clarence Mitchell.

What went on during that meet, or any other, has been related by the McCanns alone and I wouldn't trust their word. They no doubt thought it good PR to have their names linked to a Freud, albeit a somewhat dubious Freud.

I'm not at all happy about going down the paedophile route without something positive to work on.

As I've said, many attempts have been made over the years to link Gerry McCann's name with something unsavoury - not one of those suggestions have proved to be sound, or even plausible or even possible.

The Gaspars? I think I've said all I have to say in the past, so I'll leave you to it. Unless I see something erroneous, then I will be here to happily correct any misunderstanding.

ETA: As for any connection with Hilary Clinton and satanic ritual as has been suggested in the past - I despair!

by **Silentscope** 25.10.23 21:39

I do not think anyone will find a Link between the McCanns and the Podesta brothers.

But the Podestas were most likely used as a baseline by someone to generate the Efits.

by **sharonl** 25.10.23 22:26

Silentscope wrote:I do not think anyone will find a Link between the McCanns and the Podesta brothers.

But the Podestas were most likely used as a baseline by someone to generate the Efits.

Exactly.

There is a definite coverup but why? And, why are there so many high profile people so keen to assist this coverup? What have they got to hide?

by **Silentscope** 26.10.23 8:05

Why would anyone use an innocent Birthday party photograph to smear both PM Scott Morrison and Dr Gerald McCann?
Along with the Podesta brothers?

Who benefits?

thinking

by **Tony Bennett** 26.10.23 9:02

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REFERENCES TO PAEDOPHILIA IN RELATION TO THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELEINE MCCANN Paedophilia and paedophiles are words from which we naturally recoil. It is by no means a new phenomenon. There are many other words we use to refer to paedophiles: kiddie-fiddlers, nonces, child sexual abusers, child sex offenders and so on. Some of the crimes committed by paedophiles are scarcely believable in their brutality; other offences by them are mercifully less serious. One thing seems certain, such crimes are on the increase and are often severe in their long-lasting effects on those abused. There is widespread agreement that the internet is a major cause of any increase in this vile crime. It is an unpleasant fact that the subject of paedophilia has frequently been associated in some way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, very regrettable though that is. Here, for the record, we give a brief summary of some of these references: 1. Dr Gerry McCann said on the day Madeleine was reported missing that Madeleine had been taken by a paedophile Leaving aside for a moment the lack of direct evidence that Madeleine was abducted at all, there clearly is also no direct evidence whatsoever that, if Madeleine was abducted, that it was a paedophile who took her. Yet the McCanns themselves, on the very evening that Madeleine was reported missing, claimed she had been snatched by one or more paedophiles. That was a remarkable thing for them to say right from the first minute they reported Madeleine as missing. She might for example have wandered out of her room and out of the flat. 2. The McCanns and their team repeatedly said that Madeleine had been taken by a paedophile or a gang of paedophiles In the months that followed her reported disappearance, the McCann Team made numerous references, counted in dozens, to the probability that Madeleine had been abducted by paedophiles. 3. One of the McCanns’ close friends, a General Practitioner, said that on a previous holiday together, one of Dr Gerald McCann’s best friends, Dr David Payne, had made sexualised remarks and gestures about Madeleine On 16 May 2007, just 13 days after Madeleine disappeared, Dr Katarina Gaspar made this statement: “One night, when all the adults, that is, from those couples I have mentioned above, were all sitting around on a patio outside the house where we were all staying. We had been eating and drinking ‘Berbers’. I was sitting between Gerry and Dave and I think both were talking about Madeleine. I can't remember the conversation in its entirety, but they seemed to be discussing a particular scenario. I remember Dave saying to Gerry something about ‘she’, meaning Madeleine, ‘would do this’. “While he mentioned the word ‘this’, Dave was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple, with a circular movement around his clothes. This was done in a provocative way. There seemed to be an explicit insinuation about what he was saying and doing. I remember being shocked by that. I always felt it was something very weird and that it was not something anyone should say or do. I looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. “I looked around as if saying: “Did someone else hear that, or was it just me?”. The conversations stopped for a moment, then we all began conversing again. Moreover, I remember Dave doing the same thing on another occasion. In saying this, I want to mention once again that it was during a conversation in which he was talking about an imaginary scenario, although I’m not sure. “He again stuck one of his fingers in and out of his mouth and with the other hand he once again drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual way. I think he was referring to the way she, that is, his daughter Lily, would behave or what she would do. I think he did this later during this same holiday, but I'm not sure. “The only time since then that I have been in the company of Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the holidays, when Savio and I met Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona in a restaurant in Leicester. I’m sure that he said what he said and made the gestures I have related, but [the second time] it could have happened in the restaurant in Leicester, although I do think it was in Majorca that I heard Dave say and do this for the second time. After the second occasion [when he made these gestures] I took it more seriously. “I remember thinking whether he would look at my daughter and other little girls in a different way than I or others do. I imagined that he had perhaps visited internet sites related to little children. In a word, I thought that he could be interested in child pornography on the web. During our holiday in Majorca, each parent would bath the children in turn. I was keen to stay near the bathroom if Dave was bathing the children. “I remember I said to Savio to be careful and to be close by if Dave was helping to bathe the children and my daughter in particular…” 4. Dr Katarina Gaspar’s husband, also a General Practitioner, Dr Arul Savio Gaspar, confirmed this event: “During the period we stayed at the villa I remember a gesture made by David Payne. I do not remember the context of the conversation between David and Gerry, but I do remember seeing David use his left index finger to rub his nipple, using circular movements, whilst he put his right index finger into his mouth, touching his tongue. This happened during a meal, at the end of the day, in the villa. I do not remember the time or the date, but we would usually dine between 7.30pm and 9.00pm every day. I think this happened in the middle of the holiday. “I remember that when I saw this gesture, I immediately thought it to be in very bad taste, independently of the context of the conversation they were having. We were sitting around a white plastic table in the villa. I don’t know if anyone else saw the gesture, apart from my wife Katherine”. 5. One of the suspects in the case, Robert Murat, was accused by two witnesses of having paedophile tendencies A couple of days after Robert Murat was taken in for questioning by the Portuguese Police and formally declared a suspect, Dr Gerald McCann was asked: “Did you already know Robert Murat?” Dr McCann brushed the question aside impatiently and said: “I am not going to comment on that”. That led many to consider that the two men did previously know each other. It is a very reasonable inference to draw from his evasive comment. Two witnesses claimed that Robert Murat had paedophile tendencies. One of them, who knew Murat well, made a detailed statement with some very graphic comments about Murat’s sexual preferences. The links for these statements are given on our website in a lengthy feature article about Robert Murat. The Portuguese Police discovered encrypted material on Murat’s computer after they seized it. Encryption is often used by those who view, download or exchange child pornography. Murat said he had ‘no idea’ why there was encrypted material on his computer. 6. Murat’s friend Sergei Malinka was also said to have child pornography on his computer A witness told Portuguese Police that Sergei Malinka, a friend of Murat who had worked on Murat’s website, also had an interest in child pornography and had child pornography on his computer. But the police found he had wiped all the data on his hard drive before the police examined it. 7. Jim Gamble, the Chief Executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), used the Madeleine McCann disappearance to highlight the danger of paedophiles Despite the high degree of uncertainty about what really happened to Madeleine, highlighted by their own spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, saying in March 2010 that her disappearance was ‘a complete mystery’, Jim Gamble, head of CEOP, relentlessly associated Madeleine with CEOP. This was despite the obvious fact that the McCanns on their own admission had left three young children, all aged under four, in a vulnerable situation - for six nights in a row - and clearly failed to protect them. Many questioned why an organisation with the words ‘Child Protection’ in its title should feature the McCanns so heavily, given their failure of child protection. Gamble, from 2007 onwards, heavily featured Madeleine on the CEOP website and in various CEOP publications. Around the time of the second anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance (17 months previous to the date of this article , he appeared together with the McCanns in a so-called one-minute ‘viral video’, strongly emphasising that Madeleine was still alive and needed to be found. Later he also appeared on morning news shows side by side with the McCanns. Still more significantly, he invited Dr Gerald McCann in January 2010 to be the keynote speaker at a conference on the abduction of children by paedophiles. Why Dr McCann was considered by Gamble to be qualified to contribute to that conference, never mind being the ‘keynote speaker’, given the raft of uncertainties about the circumstances in which Madeleine disappeared, has never been explained either by the McCanns or by Jim Gamble. Furthermore, it was reported - and confirmed by a Home Office Freedom of Information Act request - that in October 2009, the McCanns had a private interview with the McCanns. Following that, several press reports (not denied) indicated that the Home Secretary asked Jim Gamble to recommend a new British police force to carry out a review and possibly a re-investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance. Some reports suggested that he had recommended West Yorkshire Police to carry out such a review. But the Home Office was unwilling to confirm or deny this. It was baffling why the Home Secretary, knowing Jim Gamble’s extreme closeness to the McCanns, should choose him to recommend who should carry out any review into Madeleine’s disappearance. 8. In the days before this article was written, Jim Gamble told the Home Secretary, Theresa May, that he was resigning from his post as CEOP Chief Executive, a resignation she swiftly accepted. The McCanns put out statements strongly supporting him, thanking him for his work on their behalf, and querying the Coalition government’s decision to incorporate CEOP within the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA). They described his departure in graphic terms as ‘a huge loss to child protection’. These comments pointed inexorably, once again, to the conclusion that there was a very close ‘tie’ between the McCanns and Jim Gamble. The McCann Team in conjunction with Jim Gamble of CEOP published a video about Madeleine and circulated it round the internet which many believed showed her inappropriately posed in heavy make-up In 2010, Jim Gamble once again co-operated with the McCanns to make a another video about Madeleine. The video in question featured three images of Madeleine. One very striking one shows her in an unusual pose, shot by the photographer from well below her face, wearing make-up, including much blue eyeshadow, lipstick and jewellery, and looking unhappy. The McCanns publicly claimed that ‘the photo shows her when she was three after a raid on the dressing box’. However, it is very unlikely that Madeleine could have put the necklace on herself, nor applied eyeshadow in the manner shown in the photograph, nor applied the pink bow to her hair. The evidence from the photograph suggests that an adult made her up and of course an adult was on hand to take that particular image of her. The McCanns did not say who took the photograph. Even if Madeleine had ‘raided the dressing box’, as claimed, it is one thing to take a photo of something like that for your family photo album, but altogether another matter to release it for millions to see. The McCanns explicitly approved the very public release of this video and the images on it. As one newspaper reported: “Parents of Madeleine McCann, who went missing three years ago, have released a new video and photo of their missing daughter to mark the third anniversary of the girl's disappearance”. The photo the McCanns specifically chose to highlight in the video was the one with Madeleine wearing heavy make-up, apparently applied by an adult and not by herself. There was strong adverse reaction by many members of the public to this image being used in connection with a missing child. Not least was the opinion of Mr Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police detective and now leading criminologist and child protection expert, who has often in the past spoken with strong sympathy and understanding for the McCanns. His unambiguous reaction to this particular photograph, promoted on his ‘Twitter’ blog, was that it was ‘so inappropriate’ and ‘so damaging’. We agree with him. The McCanns have from the day Madeleine was reported missing claimed explicitly and on many occasions that Madeleine must have been abducted by a paedophile, or paedophiles, often described by them as ‘predatory’, ‘evil’, or ‘ monsters’. Yet the photo of Madeleine featured by her parents shows a child looking much older than her actual three years, due to the make-up and jewellery, as all the news media quickly picked up the following day. The McCanns said a number of times that they were advised by the police ‘not to show any emotion’ in front of the cameras. One newspaper reported, around the time the McCanns appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show: “The couple also admitted they had been advised not to show any emotion while in front of the media, because any potential abductor ‘may get a kick out of it’.” It was all the more surprising, therefore, that the McCanns should use this short video to project and promote an image of Madeleine which might well appeal to certain paedophiles, some of whom are unfortunately attracted to young children. One person commented on ‘Twitter’ about the direct promotion of this video by CEOP Chief Executive Jim Gamble, writing: “If CEOP endorse this type of public relations for a supposed missing child, then their role in child protection has to be questioned!” 9. The McCann Team have highlighted the possible involvement of a named paedophile, Raymond Hewlett, in the disappearance of Madeleine First they suggested that Hewlett was involved in Madeleine’s disappearance; latterly they have claimed that he gave an account of his knowledge of Madeleine’s disappearance in a letter he dictated to hospital staff in the weeks before he died. The claims made about this letter are highly improbable and we suggest that they are a complete fabrication. They have however been deliberately promoted by the McCann Team for 18 months. 10. The connection between Ray Wyre, paedophile ‘expert’ and the McCanns We’ve highlighted the connection between the late Ray Wyre and the McCanns in another article on our website, titled ‘Ray Wyre and the McCanns: What was the connection between the McCanns and the late paedophilia ‘expert’, Ray Wyre? There are at least four questions we would ask about this connection: Why was Wyre so keen, in two articles published four and seven days after Madeleine was reported missing, to insist so adamantly that she had been abducted? Why, in addition, did he emphasise the possibility that she had been snatched by a paedophile? Why did the McCanns agree to meet the Wyres at the their Buckinghamshire home? Was that meeting really much more about producing a helpful Sunday newspaper article than, as was claimed, about starting a new organisation for missing children? 11. (NEW - UPDATED 15 June 2016) The McCanns’ friend, Sir Clement Freud, exposed as a serial paedophile Following the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the McCanns had dinner with the late Sir Clement Freud and his wife, Lady Freud. They had a villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns had been holidaying. They became friends with each other. There had been strong rumours for years that Clement Freud was a paedophile. These have now been confirmed in an article for the Daily Telegraph on 14 June 2016, in which it was stated that Lady Freud apologised for her husband;s conduct and that Operation Grange would now investigate links between Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns. Sir Clement died in 2009. Article filed by Tony Bennett, Secretary, The Madeleine Foundation, 10 October 2010 and updated by a Moderator on 15 June 2016

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by **Silentscope** 28.10.23 18:37

Gerry was reading a Book on Holiday by Jed Rubenfeld titled 'The Interpretation of Murder' a Bestseller 2006.

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To note: Clement Freud was also the Grandson of Sigmund Freud.

From the Advertising for that Book:

In the summer of 1909, Sigmund Freud arrived by steamship in New York Harbor for a short visit to America. Though he would live another thirty years, he would never return to this country. Little is known about the week he spent in Manhattan, and Freud's biographers have long speculated as to why, in his later years, he referred to Americans as "savages" and "criminals."

Enter the Podestas?

by Guest 28.10.23 20:47

Enter the Podestas?

I doubt it, Freud was a bit before their time..

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Anthony Thomas Podesta (born October 24, 1943 age 80 years)

John Podesta (born: 8 January 1949 age 74 years),

You do know The Interpretation of Murder by Jed Rubenfeld is a novel - don't you?

Oh joy to the world!

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.23 9:39

I think these connections are a bit far flung; I imagine that Madeleine's case is more contained.

by **Silentscope** 29.10.23 9:59

I was referring to the Advertising for that Book which was first Published 2006.

It is more likely that someone with a Modern day (2006-07) Political Agenda used the Podestas as a basis for the Efits.

Someone who wanted them implicated in Madeleines 'disappearence'.
Someone who knew that John Podesta was running Hillary Clinton's Campaign?

Probably someone in the UK Establishment who wanted her to lose?

by Guest 29.10.23 13:31

CaKeLoveR wrote:I think these connections are a bit far flung; I imagine that Madeleine's case is more contained.

To add impetus, I think these conjured connections are pure nonsense - the result of an over active mind with a generous helping of condiment to spice up the mix.

Seriously, a couple of middle Englanders with no criminal record nor any reason to arouse suspicion, rubbing shoulders with notorious suspected criminals. It's an embarrassment to even contemplate the notion.

Don't make me laugh!

by **Silentscope** 29.10.23 18:03

HILLARY FOR AMERICA CAMPAIGN 2016

CHAIRMAN: JOHN POSTEDA

SARAH LATHAM

Founded Latham Group in 2006.

Chief of Staff to the Chairman John Podesta (2016)

Special Adviser to the UK Secretary of Culture, Media and Sport.

Public Affairs Director in Freud Communications - and in 2005 worked for Tony Blair on his re-election campaigning. Where Clarence Mitchell worked for Matthew Freud.

Managing Director for Philip Gould Associates in London.
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Government Affairs Adviser for Microsoft Europe, Middle East and Africa.
Historical Information on the Post of Secretary for Culture.
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Special Adviser to White House Chief of Staff John Podesta and Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of Presidental Scheduling.

John Podesta's Chief of Staff in for Hillary 2016 was Sarah Latham. (see above). She was former communications director at public relations firm Freud Communications. That would be Mathew Freud, son of Clement Freud, known pedophile with a villa 1/3 of a mile from where Maddie was taken. McCann's were guests of C. Freud not long after the abduction. By my reckoning, that's three narrow degrees of separation down to a four minute jog from the hotel to Freud's villa.

Coupled with Wikileaks Podesta emails starting two days after Maddie's disappearance (one can infer all previous emails may have been deleted to cover travel/itinerary history, hence they were unavailable to Wikileaks) and the great lag of another six weeks until he makes another email and resumes anything that could be considered regular email traffic (one can infer several suspicious things here) a more direct connection cannot remotely be dismissed out of hand. If these are just coincidences, J &TP have to be considered two of the unluckiest men alive to have such coincidences befall them.
If there is any information that disproves the possibility of the more direct potential connection as just outlined, kindly respond with same.

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by **crusader** 29.10.23 18:27

All this nonsense started because Members of the Smith family were persuaded to make a photofit of the man they saw with a child in his arms at 10pm May 3rd 2007.
The two drawings are supposed to be of ONE man not two.
The Smiths never said they saw two men with a child, this needs to stop, it's all myth.
I don't care what their shoe colour is supposed to mean, they were not running down an alley with Madeleine in Praia da Luz in May 2007.