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Post by Tony Bennett 04.11.15 10:25

aquila wrote:I feel very sad this morning reading through all of those posts. Over a year on and no documentary. A teaser trailer one month old today.
I do have an update: this exchange on Twitter yesterday  

simon taylor ‏@ riffwood 1 day ago
@ SoniaPoulton  when is the documentary please Sonia ?

Sonia Poulton ‏@ SoniaPoulton 1 day ago
@ riffwood  we'll keep you updated. Everything very close to chest since trailer [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


I understand that Sonia Poulton has been whingeing on Twitter, calling this forum a 'cess-pit' once again, and furiously denying that she has any connection with Royden James Jones, the man who appeared in Wrexham Magistrates Court last week on charges under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and the Malicious Communications Act. She has also publicly denied any involvement or contact with any other trolling or stalking blogs.

This tweet from two years ago, welcoming the return of the 'Team Outlaw' blog run by Royden Jones (and some say Poulton was admin for that blog) from her says otherwise (theoutlawjimmy = Royden James Jones):

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P.S.   Sonia Poulton recently publicly advised her boyfriend and her camera assistant on the 'Untold Story of Madeleine McCann' documentary, Lee Taylor Ryan, to remove the image on his Twitter and Google accounts of a revolver pointing straight at the viewer. Well, as Aquila has confirmed this morning, it is still there on his Google account. A reminder perhaps of his unresolved anger management issues

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Guest 04.11.15 20:42

aquila wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], thank you for the link.

I watched the youtube video and scrolled down through all the comments (something I rarely do on youtube stuff).

After reading the posts there from Lee Taylor Ryan I felt as though I'd entered some dark and murky world. I read threats of troll exposure, repeated calling someone a nonce (and naming them) foul language and intimidation, along with an avatar depicting a gun. Is this the team going to bring truth and justice for Madeleine McCann/Brenda Leyland (Sonia can't seem to make up her mind what the documentary is about so it could be either or a mixture)?

I feel very sad this morning reading through all of those posts. Over a year on and no documentary. A teaser trailer one month old today.
The bloke certainly doesn't do anything to enhance her reputation as a professional journalist and social commentator - looks and sounds like a thug to me.  People like that don't impress me one bit with their vulgar ignorant public image, there's nothing clever, constructive nor funny about lewd language and/or behaviour.  Frankly I'm very wary about Poulton and the company she keeps which makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to believe the veracity of her motives.

Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy.
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Post by Mark Willis 07.11.15 6:29

Verdi wrote:
"....Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy."
Amen to that, Mr Verdi.
Sums it up, nicely.  goodpost
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Post by Guest 07.11.15 23:04

Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi wrote:
"....Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy."
Amen to that, Mr Verdi.
Sums it up, nicely.  goodpost
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Meanwhile, whilst I await with pregnant anticipation,  the premiere showing of the Untold Story of Madeleine McCann, I will highlight one or two discrepencies in the undated published by the Director's Press Release found here..

 http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com/

Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton [the director], fascinated by the case from the beginning, has repeatedly questioned the ‘official version of events’. As indeed had many of her media colleagues - although none of them publicly.

To do so, she had been told on several occasions, was ‘career suicide’.

[This remains to be seen - or not as the case may be]

So it was that Poulton, and a small trusted team, independently-financed and have spent the last year filming 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann - A War of Information'.

[Independently financed?  So not commissioned as stated by a member of the production team?  If the  end product is to be as claimed by team Poulton, it must have cost a pretty penny - with no guaranteed return?]

An evidence-based documentary prompted by the death of Brenda Leyland in October 2014.

[Evidence based?  Would that be as in evidence contained in the PJ files released into the public domain in the summer of 2008?  The same evidence that has been subjected to internet discussion for over seven years?]

Brenda’s death was a turning point for Poulton and she decided it was time to speak out. She recorded a short message to YouTube expressing her sympathy with Brenda Leyland and supporting her right to free speech.

[I'm frankly astounded it wasn't the disappearance of a three year old child that was her turning point]

The response to this impromptu YouTube made it clear that she was far from alone in this stance.

She discovered tens of thousands of people, from all over the world, congregating on the Internet and questioning the story of Madeleine McCann and whether it was an extraordinary cover up involving the British Government and legal, judicial, medical and media establishments.

[Had she been aware of the case from the beginning she would realise that many people from all over the world have been questioning the background to the case since the summer of 2007.   Is she now trying to take the credit?]

The film includes expert testimony from those who have studied the case as well as encounters with the people at the very heart of the story.

[If this press release is to be believed, I look forward to discovering who these experts are.  If those named in the link are anything to go by, it's not looking very promising]

This documentary explores the disappearance and subsequent events of the case.

[Anyone interested and/or has followed this case over the years will already be aware]

It is a story, as Poulton discovered, that is about more than the disappearance of a child, as tragically sad as that event is.

It is a tale of media censorship, numerous lawsuits and widespread gagging and it draws together friends in high places, social inequality, celebrity endorsement and saving reputations.

[She's quick - see above]

Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years.

Some of these questions arising from the Portuguese Police files which were made public in 2008. Others, still, as a consequence of the actions of Kate and Gerry McCann and the people involved in the Find Madeleine campaign.

[Der -if the anomalies are known then we already know] 

Numerous inconsistencies that have remained unreported and unaddressed in the many media interviews that Kate and Gerry McCann grant as they increasingly make their mark in public life

[At this late stage, I think the majority of people interested in this case are aware of the misrepresentation of the case by the main stream media - so much so I doubt if anyone takes a scrap of notice of what they report short of ridicule]

‘The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann – A War of Information’ is the result of that journey.

[On location - a voyage across my sofa]

Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
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Post by aiyoyo 08.11.15 2:45

Verdi wrote:

Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
 
NOPE!


It's been claimed by the producer "air time" is held close to her chest.  
Read that to mean - she is "bullshitting" because there is no taker.

If timing is essential factor, tomorrow will never come for SP.
A few more changes of James Bond characters will come and go before tomorrow will come for SP's "untold film" premiere.
 
It's her secret production that will follow her to her grave, just like Kate's secret over her missing daughter to be taken to the grave.

SP is (allegedly) waiting for an opportune timing to air, just like Kate is (allegedly) waiting for Madeleine to be found alive; and we know neither one is going to happen even if tomorrow comes as night follows day.
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Post by Guest 08.11.15 7:30

Sonia could put it on YouTube right now.

Is money more important than forwarding this case though?
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Post by Guest 08.11.15 10:08

BlueBag wrote:Sonia could put it on YouTube right now.

Is money more important than forwarding this case though?
Considering she claimd it's 'sensitive to operation grange' and only uses information that has been in the public domain for years (the case files) then as there really is nothing new or startling, why not just release it, as you say.
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Post by aiyoyo 08.11.15 10:18

BlueBag wrote:Sonia could put it on YouTube right now.

Is money more important than forwarding this case though?

She can't!  She has said from the start "it's not a youtube video".

If she should upload it on youtube she will lose face, and money of course (as presumably mainstream would have to pay to buy it).
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Post by aiyoyo 08.11.15 10:50

HKP wrote:
BlueBag wrote:Sonia could put it on YouTube right now.

Is money more important than forwarding this case though?
Considering she claimd it's 'sensitive to operation grange' and only uses information that has been in the public domain for years (the case files) then as there really is nothing new or startling, why not just release it, as you say.

Her so called startling revelation mustn't be able to stand test of scrutiny, that's why she has used all manner of lame excuses (including the "sensitive to OG" one) to save her sinking reputation on the no show.  The no show even independently on youtube is a giveaway her content is probably dodgy bearing great ramification risk to her.

It's a given the content of her video must be useless for Grange's purposes, else you would think she would have given it to Grange, instead of peddling it for personal gain/fame.
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Post by jeanmonroe 08.11.15 11:32

Sonia could put it on YouTube right now.
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"WHAT'S IN A 'NAME'?"

Sonia COULD 'do' just ONE thing..........RIGHT NOW!

And that is, to tell the WORLD, the name of the 'person' that absolutely 'has to maintain, the 'abduction' story, at all costs, ad infinitum'

She 'says' she knows the 'name'

She 'says' EVERYONE will 'be shocked, to the core' WHEN they 'know' the 'name'.

She has 'known' the 'name' of this 'person' for a YEAR.

She has, to date, afaik, NOT 'named' the 'name'!

WHY NOT???
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Post by Guest 08.11.15 13:03

The little teaser designed to keep the cauldron bubbling for another few months, is primarily focused on the dastardly daring deed of doorstepping Kate McCann at their Rothley home.  Just supposing for the sake of argument that this event did take place as portrayed in the teaser, I can't see how it benefits the documentary, public awareness or indeed discovering the truth behind MBM's disappearance - The Untold Story.

The press release Director's Foreword states..

'People, no matter how sympathetic, struggle to understand why Kate McCann did not comply with the Portuguese Police questions. Kate and Gerry McCann benefit from excellent media relations and enjoy extensive coverage, however journalists and TV presenters have failed to confront the many inconsistencies. And no one has directly asked them the question in this trailer..'

Whist true perhaps the McCanns, have never been asked directly why Kate declined to answer the 48 questions (I can't say for sure whether or not she's was asked during a media interview), it is grossly inaccurate to claim that bias has always been in favour of the McCanns.  Immediately following the archiving process by the Portuguese, the UK media was awash with news that KM failed to respond to 48 questions posed during her arguido interview.  Naturally enough under the circumstances, their well paid spin doctor spoke to the press on the McCanns behalf, excusing KM's reticence to assist the investigation as 'taking her lawyers advice'.  This is most likely true - as Gerry McCann exploded with something to the effect of 'we've been f'ing stitched up'!

So what can be gained by sticking a ruddy great microphone in KM's face and demanding to know WHY she declined to answer 48 questions when interviewed in September 2007.  Did Ms Poulton think she would be invited in for tea and a cosy girly fireside chat, or did she think KM would crumble on the doorstep under the pressure and confess all her hidden sins?  A pointless exercise and in my opinion very misleading!

Judging by the teaser, it would appear that Ms Poulton is somewhat sensationalizing on the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann, rather than presenting an evidence based film/documentary on The Untold Story.  If I'm right then all I can say is - she is a manipulative, self serving, deceitful, egotistic meddling minx!

Not that it will ever see the light of day.
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Post by joyce1938 08.11.15 16:34

I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie. Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have? It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others? Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen. joyce1938
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Post by pennylane 08.11.15 17:41

joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out ,I don't think its on behalf of such as people that are online  reading every day about maddie . Would it not be a goodidea for others that don't normally follow site s to have an   occasion  of what we already have ? its true we may not nee.jod it ,but what of others ? don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen .joyce1938


Pretty much what I've been saying, joyce! thumbup
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Post by joyce1938 08.11.15 18:50

Thanks for your backing pennylane.  I think it's not a bad thing to be open about these things, I just don't really understand why people can't see it this way too, how long it takes and what others think about her as a person shouldn't be most important. joyce1938
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Post by Guest 08.11.15 19:05

joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.
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Post by pennylane 08.11.15 19:11

HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
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Post by pennylane 08.11.15 19:29

joyce1938 wrote:Thanks for your backing pennylane.  I think it's not a bad thing to be open about these things, I just don't really understand why people can't see it this way too, how long it takes and what others think about her as a person shouldn't be most important. joyce1938

I agree!
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pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
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Post by pennylane 08.11.15 20:49

HKP wrote:
pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
Those who can be bothered to look for it are all the wiser yes, but many just believe what they're told, and have donated money to The Fund due to being kept in the dark and ignorant. 

When I read the papers or watch Sky News, etc, the McCanns shady dealings are not only untold, but spun in a totally misleading and often fictional direction, hence it remains an 'untold story' to many.
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Post by Mark Willis 09.11.15 6:30

Verdi........... wrote:
Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
No.
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Post by Mark Willis 09.11.15 6:37

In the meantime, all of the "work" has been done right from the start, with the Mirror Forum, Foundation/Here, 3As and so on.
None of us give a hoot as to who breaks this case (even MWT) as long as justice prevails.
We have seen many Poultons come and go and rise without a trace.

I think we could make a killing with Snake Oil the amount we've amassed over 8 years from these dodgy costermongers..
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Post by Guest 09.11.15 12:24

Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi........... wrote:
Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
No.
You win something from the missing shelf.
howdy for nothing!  Why do I always get the golden raspberry?
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HKP wrote:
pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
Precisely!  Anyone that believes what the tabloid press churn out with nauseating regularity frankly need their brains tested. It's not a case of being ill-informed by those we trust (splutter!) it's more a case of using ones own intellect and realizing it's nothing but a load of trash.  It matters not what the public are told by main stream media because any critical thinker will instinctively draw their own conclusions - if not, I venture to suggest they probably don't really care enough about any given subject to bother.

I've just googled the name Madeleine McCann which shows 935,000 results.  Meanwhile I await the 'not the nine o'clock news' Madeleine McCann exclusive!
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Post by pennylane 09.11.15 14:59

Verdi wrote:
HKP wrote:
pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
Precisely!  Anyone that believes what the tabloid press churn out with nauseating regularity frankly need their brains tested. It's not a case of being ill-informed by those we trust (splutter!) it's more a case of using ones own intellect and realizing it's nothing but a load of trash.  It matters not what the public are told by main stream media because any critical thinker will instinctively draw their own conclusions - if not, I venture to suggest they probably don't really care enough about any given subject to bother.

I've just googled the name Madeleine McCann which shows 935,000 results.  Meanwhile I await the 'not the nine o'clock news' Madeleine McCann exclusive!
Verdi, although I mostly agree with what you are saying, unfortunately it has made an enormous difference to the McCanns what the public have been told by MSM!

If the truth had been reported in an unbiased, factual manner, the knock on effect would have been massive. In addition TM would not have accumulated the money to sustain their ruthless attack on Dr Amaral, which in itself would have made an enormous difference... not only to his life which has been devastated, but also to 'The Truth of The Lie' or the untold story. 

Had Dr Amaral's book been released in the UK, it would have generated a great deal of interest and cut through much of the fiction and smokescreens generated by TM and their pink mouthpiece (imo).
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pennylane wrote:
Verdi wrote:
HKP wrote:
pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
Precisely!  Anyone that believes what the tabloid press churn out with nauseating regularity frankly need their brains tested. It's not a case of being ill-informed by those we trust (splutter!) it's more a case of using ones own intellect and realizing it's nothing but a load of trash.  It matters not what the public are told by main stream media because any critical thinker will instinctively draw their own conclusions - if not, I venture to suggest they probably don't really care enough about any given subject to bother.

I've just googled the name Madeleine McCann which shows 935,000 results.  Meanwhile I await the 'not the nine o'clock news' Madeleine McCann exclusive!
Verdi, although I mostly agree with what you are saying, unfortunately it has made an enormous difference to the McCanns what the public have been told by MSM!

If the truth had been reported in an unbiased, factual manner, the knock on effect would have been massive. In addition TM would not have accumulated the money to sustain their ruthless attack on Dr Amaral, which in itself would have made an enormous difference... not only to his life which has been devastated, but also to 'The Truth of The Lie' or the untold story. 

Had Dr Amaral's book been released in the UK, it would have generated a great deal of interest and cut through much of the fiction and smokescreens generated by TM and their pink mouthpiece (imo).
I take your point pennylane but I don't see it that way.

In the very early days, the UK media was publishing some very damning reports about the McCanns and their possible involvement in the disappeance of their child.  The main culprit was of course the Express group, resulting in an out of court settlement in favour of the McCanns - the rest as they say is history.  This is an area I have never been quite able to comprehend, as they had Clarence Mitchell spin doctor extraordinaire and other assorted spokespersons to control what was reported by the media yet they didn't appear to have total control until latter days.

Whatever, the seed was already sown as regards public awareness of the McCanns precarious position.  I believe any public support the McCanns and their friends had at that stage was from the philanthropic type that like to see good in everyoneand everything.  Even now there is no doubt a section of society that believe the parents to be totally innocent because they can't believe that a parent could do anythingso horrendous.  That unfortunately is not a fact of life - people do the most diabolical things to children, often their own - there's no room for mawkish sentimentality when talking of a childs disappearance.

Remember Gerry McCann saying that they expected to be the first to be investigated, being the parents (and if I might add, he allegedly being the last person to have seen his daughter) - empty words, they sure didn't like it when they were investigated.  Thiswas all reported by mainstream media including, as I said the other day, KM's refusal to answer 48 questions during her rogatory interview.

I genuinely don't believe that Ms Poulton can offer up anything new as regards Madeleine McCanns disappearance, or anything connected thereto.  I don't believe her motives are honourable nor do I like thecompany she keeps.  Private life maybe (not my business) but when she claims to have been producing a film/documentary with the title working title 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann', then I think she is a fraud with self interest at heart - certainly not trying to help discover the truth about little Madeleine McCanns fate.
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Post by jeanmonroe 09.11.15 16:06

Max Bygraves' 'catchphrase' was "I wanna tell you a story".

SP's 'catchphrase' is 'I DON'T wanna tell you a story'!
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Post by pennylane 09.11.15 16:33

Verdi wrote:
pennylane wrote:
Verdi wrote:
HKP wrote:
pennylane wrote:
HKP wrote:
joyce1938 wrote:I would hope that if Sonia could get a film out I don't think it's on behalf of such as people that are online reading every day about Maddie.  Would it not be a good idea for others that don't normally follow sites to have an occasion of what we already have?  It's true we may not nee.jod it, but what of others?  Don't let us get too wrapped up in what we want to see happen.  joyce1938
So it's not the 'untold story' it's the 'story that's already known to many' then.

The parents have ensured it is an untold story to many!
The clue is in the title as in 'untold' when in fact because it is not new (as Sonia's web page states) and is based on the case files it should be 'the story already told (to those who could be bothered to look for it)'
Precisely!  Anyone that believes what the tabloid press churn out with nauseating regularity frankly need their brains tested. It's not a case of being ill-informed by those we trust (splutter!) it's more a case of using ones own intellect and realizing it's nothing but a load of trash.  It matters not what the public are told by main stream media because any critical thinker will instinctively draw their own conclusions - if not, I venture to suggest they probably don't really care enough about any given subject to bother.

I've just googled the name Madeleine McCann which shows 935,000 results.  Meanwhile I await the 'not the nine o'clock news' Madeleine McCann exclusive!
Verdi, although I mostly agree with what you are saying, unfortunately it has made an enormous difference to the McCanns what the public have been told by MSM!

If the truth had been reported in an unbiased, factual manner, the knock on effect would have been massive. In addition TM would not have accumulated the money to sustain their ruthless attack on Dr Amaral, which in itself would have made an enormous difference... not only to his life which has been devastated, but also to 'The Truth of The Lie' or the untold story. 

Had Dr Amaral's book been released in the UK, it would have generated a great deal of interest and cut through much of the fiction and smokescreens generated by TM and their pink mouthpiece (imo).
I take your point pennylane but I don't see it that way.

In the very early days, the UK media was publishing some very damning reports about the McCanns and their possible involvement in the disappeance of their child.  The main culprit was of course the Express group, resulting in an out of court settlement in favour of the McCanns - the rest as they say is history.  This is an area I have never been quite able to comprehend, as they had Clarence Mitchell spin doctor extraordinaire and other assorted spokespersons to control what was reported by the media yet they didn't appear to have total control until latter days.

Whatever, the seed was already sown as regards public awareness of the McCanns precarious position.  I believe any public support the McCanns and their friends had at that stage was from the philanthropic type that like to see good in everyoneand everything.  Even now there is no doubt a section of society that believe the parents to be totally innocent because they can't believe that a parent could do anythingso horrendous.  That unfortunately is not a fact of life - people do the most diabolical things to children, often their own - there's no room for mawkish sentimentality when talking of a childs disappearance.

Remember Gerry McCann saying that they expected to be the first to be investigated, being the parents (and if I might add, he allegedly being the last person to have seen his daughter) - empty words, they sure didn't like it when they were investigated.  Thiswas all reported by mainstream media including, as I said the other day, KM's refusal to answer 48 questions during her rogatory interview.

I genuinely don't believe that Ms Poulton can offer up anything new as regards Madeleine McCanns disappearance, or anything connected thereto.  I don't believe her motives are honourable nor do I like thecompany she keeps.  Private life maybe (not my business) but when she claims to have been producing a film/documentary with the title working title 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann', then I think she is a fraud with self interest at heart - certainly not trying to help discover the truth about little Madeleine McCanns fate.
Thank you for your response, verdi!

Yes MSM did indeed report some very negative stories in the early days, and I distinctly remember those you mention.  In addition, lest we forget, even the Birmingham FSS hung the McCanns out to dry with their initial report; and then 'whoosh,' it all took a very dark and seedy U-turn. A multi pronged approach was set in place to turn things in the McCanns favor, but by then the horse had bolted, and only the most gullible, philanthropic and xenophobic were taken in by the spin.

We will have to see what Ms Pouton has to offer, if anything, but I have say I thought she did a good job putting creepy Jim Gamble in his place on twitter.

I enjoyed reading your post. roses
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Post by Mark Willis 09.11.15 16:47

Verdi wrote:
Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi........... wrote:
Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
No.
You win something from the missing shelf.
howdy for nothing!  Why do I always get the golden raspberry?
Because Hutton got the sour grapes, is all.
Tell you what, as a one-off concession, here's a copy of the full vid of SP's "untold story", with an intro by the Cheshire Cat complete with a cameo of The Invisible Man, shot on location in the Bermuda Triangle directed by Jimmy Hoffa, film crew courtesy of the Mary Celeste. Vid comes with FREE shelf, good quality wrist band and an invite to the Metodo3 Christmas bash. Oh, and to go with your raspberry, an apple and orange, a box of sky hooks, a bucket of steam and a long stand.  thumbup
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Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi........... wrote:
Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
No.
You win something from the missing shelf.
howdy for nothing!  Why do I always get the golden raspberry?
Because Hutton got the sour grapes, is all.
Tell you what, as a one-off concession, here's a copy of the full vid of SP's "untold story", with an intro by the Cheshire Cat complete with a cameo of The Invisible Man, shot on location in the Bermuda Triangle directed by Jimmy Hoffa, film crew courtesy of the Mary Celeste. Vid comes with FREE shelf, good quality wrist band and an invite to the Metodo3 Christmas bash. Oh, and to go with your raspberry, an apple and orange, a box of sky hooks, a bucket of steam and a long stand.  thumbup
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:  Birmingham FSS hung the McCanns out to dry with their initial report; and then 'whoosh,' it all took a very dark and seedy U-turn.

Much obliged pennylane!  Here you make a very good point and partly the reason I think the case is one big cover-up.  Rumour has it that Sr Amaral is the buffoon that incorrectly interpreted the FSS initial forensic results but a regular cynic views this with extreme suspicion.  After all, Sr Amaral as an officer of the law is dependent on experts to guide him through the technicalities and who was that expert - John Lowe and his minions perhaps?  Every man has a price so they say.  Wasn't the first time the FSS got it wrong, it's no wonder they were short lived.

If you think about it, the McCanns are two insignificant working class people, nothing special or exclusive, just ordinary people who rather unfortunately mislaid one of their children in mysterious circumstances, nothing complex about the case until after the event.  So why did their child's disappearance instantly turn into one monster cirque burlesque?  As isolated individuals have they the power or influence to engineer media and world attention of such a disproportionate scale?  Answer is no they couldn't - there has to be some other explanation.  An explanation that encompasses just about every corner of the UK establishment and also explain the sudden media reluctance to report anything concerning the case other than a load of rubbish stories about burglars and so on.

I'm sure it's not McCann power armed with lawyers that's kept them walking - they couldn't possibly afford to retain the services of high power lawyers, such as Carter Ruck, the fund would have dried up long ago.  If the fund is administered as the public are led to believe, it sits there year in year out (more out than in these days it would appear), making but a pittance in annual interest.  Seriously, how could they (the fund) possibly be able to afford expensive lawyers for over eight years.  I know KM's got a £million floating about just in case but a decent lawyer would swallow that in a matter of weeks as would Operation Grange.

Going back to the UK media, McCann style threats of litigation are nothing to multi-billion £ media conglomerates.  The odd half mill out of court settlement is but petty cash to the likes of the Express group or the Murdoch empire, what care they for small fry like the McCanns threatening them with legal action.

It's just got to be something big behind this apparent cover up and somehow I don't think Ms Poulton is the one to persuade members of the establishment to come clean.  She hardly features high on the echalon of journalistic influence, she is but a self serving crusader riding on the back of a child's disappearance and victims left in the wake of the McCanns protection. 

As a collective we can all fly the flag for justice but the establishment has the power, influence and money to control.

Just an opinion - of course..
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