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Post by sammyc 05.06.15 21:33

Ladyinred wrote:Many of us appreciate your hard work, TB. 

I think attention-seeker Rosalinda Hutton is best ignored, especially at the moment as it seems she is suffering from an episode.
Good post Ladyinred - summed up in few words.  I posted on another thread regarding Cristobell and how she has turned and become more nastier only towards Tony. Don't forget everyone that Cristobell used this forum to promote her own blog - I can recall her slyly adding her blog link at the end of each post a few years ago.  Now she has turned against the people who gave her a platform. Give your head a wobble RH eek
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Post by aiyoyo 05.06.15 22:28

snook wrote:Well Tony,  if anyone did believe it I suggest they need heavy duty medication as desperately as Hutton.

Sadly, she needs more than medication.  
Her behavior is typical of a deranged person, desperately in need of counselling.
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I am surprised TB actually bothers to entertain her by responding to the myth she started about him being a stooge.  Since she is stupid enough to believe that, then let her be a laughing stock that she is.
She blogs about her past mental and psychological health issues.  Everyone can see she starts spreading lies about TB and this forum after she was turned away from this forum for appalling behavior, and given her own admission of mental health issue, truly on display when she went into bloody scary meltdown, no one took any notice of her false and malicious accusations anyway.  

Even when the evidence was socked up to her, she is incapable of apologising to TB, what does that say of her?  What more proof do people need about her mental and psychological state?

Even though she talks out of her bum all the time, and made a nuisance of her-bitter- self-absorbed-self, telling lies, spreading rumours and spouting nonsense on her diary (blog), she is best ignored for her own good.  Mental health issue is a serious problem deserving respect; even though she made and still continues to make a donkey ass of herself, her condition caused her behavior, she can't help herself. So despite her atrocious behavior she deserves to be pitied.
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Post by Tony Bennett 05.06.15 23:55

aiyoyo wrote:
I am surprised TB actually bothers to entertain her by responding to the myth she started about him being a stooge.  
@ aiyoyo   Just to clarify - and this is, after all, a thread about Sonia Poulton - the reason I posted up my latest bank statement was because Sonia Poulton (NOT Hutton) had posted on Twitter the following two insinuations:

1. He is lying about having to pay Carter-Ruck £125 a month
2. He is a stooge for the McCanns.

Whilst I understand why some here are of the view I should not have reacted, may I summarise why I did:

a) Sonia Poulton is well-known in certain quarters and has a large number of 'followers' - thousands, I believe
b) So maybe thousands might be thinking....who is this bloke that's lying and working as a McCann stooge?
c) No sooner was I made aware of Poulton's tweet than it was followed up by her mates Hutton and Colette Croft/'RussianDoll', and also Moondamp_Roses, all expressing doubts about my truthfulness on this issue and demanding answers
d) These tweets were then being retweeted by several others
e) I wondered how many more would be clamouring for an answer and then saying: 'Look, he's provided no proof'
f) I also considered that it was both in my interests - and I believe the wider cause of the search for the truth about Madeleine - that I should bring to a head - and bring to wider notice - this year-long smearing of me by both Poulton and Hutton (and others), and hopefully in the process exposing them to an element of shame for doubting someone who took his desire to share facts about the McCann case to the point of (unfortunately) breaking a High Court undertaklng, taking a big financial hit, and also causing some family turbulence.

As things are turning out, the shamefulness of these attacks on me by Poulton and Hutton (and others) has I think been brought into the open - with positive effects.

I wish no ill on either Poulton or Hutton.

My charge against both of them, however, is that each has damaged, not enhanced, the search for the truth about Madeleine.

Plus it hurts that former members here have founded a forum that from the word 'go' has promoted and linked to Hutton's blog, with all the vile and untrue attacks on CMOMM, the forum-owner and myself. That forum for the past 9 months has actively promoted a blog that has routinely portrayed me as a 'McCann stooge', who has lied about having to pay a large costs bill and who is the biggest handicap, menace and liability in the search for the truth about Madeleine.

And excuse me if I mention again that a couple of years ago I wrote a favourable review of her book: 'Cry and you Cry Alone' and subsequently assisted her in her attempts to take action against one of the paedophiles whom she said was a senior staff member at her convent.  

But let's get back to Poulton - and that much-hyped documentary...and those well-paid chats about internet trolls on Murdoch's SKY News - the very outfit that triggered the suicide of McCann-doubter Brenda Leyland.

For whom Poulton pretends to have been concerned...

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aiyoyo wrote:
snook wrote:Well Tony,  if anyone did believe it I suggest they need heavy duty medication as desperately as Hutton.

Sadly, she needs more than medication.  
Her behavior is typical of a deranged person, desperately in need of counselling.
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I am surprised TB actually bothers to entertain her by responding to the myth she started about him being a stooge.  Since she is stupid enough to believe that, then let her be a laughing stock that she is.
She blogs about her past mental and psychological health issues.  Everyone can see she starts spreading lies about TB and this forum after she was turned away from this forum for appalling behavior, and given her own admission of mental health issue, truly on display when she went into bloody scary meltdown, no one took any notice of her false and malicious accusations anyway.  

Even when the evidence was socked up to her, she is incapable of apologising to TB, what does that say of her?  What more proof do people need about her mental and psychological state?

Even though she talks out of her bum all the time, and made a nuisance of her-bitter- self-absorbed-self, telling lies, spreading rumours and spouting nonsense on her diary (blog), she is best ignored for her own good.  Mental health issue is a serious problem deserving respect; even though she made and still continues to make a donkey ass of herself, her condition caused her behavior, she can't help herself. So despite her atrocious behavior she deserves to be pitied.
She deserves a kick up her own ass!
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Post by aiyoyo 06.06.15 1:45

Tony Bennett wrote:@ aiyoyo   Just to clarify - and this is, after all, a thread about Sonia Poulton - the reason I posted up my latest bank statement was because Sonia Poulton (NOT Hutton) had posted on Twitter the following two insinuations:

But, you know very well it was Rosa aka cristobell Hutton that started the myth about you working for the McCanns long before SP jumps onto her gravy train.  I suspect SP deliberately baits you because you've been a wet blanket to her documentary project.  

Surely you don't seriously believe SP believed you are a stooge, do you?
 If she did, won't that say something about her discerning/judgement ability?
  She calls herself a journalist, surely a little bit of investigative journalism will get her the answer she wants, without having to accuse/dare you on twitter. 
She's just playing a tit for tat game with you, can't you see that?

If she truly lacks that basic an ability to discern fact from myth/misinformation then she is unfit to produce a documentary. What are the chances of her determining if info given to her is factually correct or not for her documentary if she does not possess discerning and analysing skills?  CB is different, she's just a show off who likes to listen to her own voice.

The twin-clown-sisters (CB and SP) ganged up and baited you, and you went for the hook, sorry to say that. It's just a silly game they play...started by spiteful CB. That they can't be arsed with the evidence after you'd produced it speaks volume.  CB knew better, she has been spreading lies to discredit you just for the fun of it. It wasn't evidence they sought. They enjoy badmouthing you purely for the sake of it.

You'd be better off taking a leaf out of CB and tell them to kiss your ass whenever they play game with you, but we all know you are too well mannered to do that. That kind of despicable behavior is not your style. Your honesty esometimes is a disservice if I may say so.

CB is best ignored, for obvious reason, she can't help how her conditions caused her to behave.  
SP is best ignored, because thus far she proves to be an attention seeker full of talks and no action. Unless she walks her talk and release the film she promised, her credibility will be kaput.

No need to be concerned whatever they say of you.
Credit people with their wisdom to discern for themselves who walks the talk, who's hot air, empty talk and no action.  Time will reveal all.
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Post by snook 06.06.15 5:31

I think Hutton is relevant as to my mind Poulton is shamelessly using her to fire some of her more outlandish bullets in order to attract more support. Any credible journalist would work in silence. Not Poulton. She is still tweeting about uncovering 'big hairy trolls' from STM. Hutton is being used but can't see it and Poulton is exploiting her mental illness and, I believe exacerbating it. That Hutton is off her rocker is not debatable (that is no slur on sufferers of mental illness). Only yesterday she was bragging that she was a lecturer in English!?. Is,there no end to this attractive, sassy woman's talents? She explained her appalling spelling and grammar as 'everyone makes mistakes' ( even lecturers it would seem?) I think we can add delusions of grandeur to her growing list of symptoms. BTW, she is tweeting that she had obviously got into our heads but we are so insignificant that we are indistinguishable to her. More delusions. Perhaps god complex next?
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Post by tigger 06.06.15 7:05

So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.

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Post by Liz Eagles 06.06.15 7:20

tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.
There are surely a few more pay cheques to be had from MSM though.

Why did Sonia Poulton select Rosalinde Hutton, who is clearly off balance by her own admission to talk about trolls and give an interview to The Sun?

Why did Sonia Poulton give airtime to the likes of Birch, Shrimpton and Hutton (all clearly unbalanced people) on her TPV escapade before leaving under a cloud?

For anyone reading this I want to say that Rosalinde Hutton is being used and was selected by Sonia Poulton. I remarked on that when Hutton did her interview for TPV.

These two women have done nothing but muddy waters. They are both likely being paid by UK MSM in some shape or form.

Where is Madeleine McCann in all of this?
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Post by puzzled 06.06.15 11:11

Didn't Sonia Poulton once work for David ICke? I wonder what that says about her?

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Post by snook 06.06.15 11:27

She was sacked by Icke for being unprofessional @ puzzled. He may have some crazy theories but he is a professional presenter so I think that tells us about Poulton. Surprise surprise she than launched an attack on him, promising a revelatory video. Another surprise. It never materialised.
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Post by Guest 06.06.15 12:17

tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.
Troll seems to have become a by-word for anyone or thing acceptable, unacceptable and/or indifferent - there's not even an established standard definition of the word is there?  The Trollish Dossier was thrown out by the authorities which is a sure indication of the time wasting factor involved here.

Put up or shut up Ms Poulton - you've become the definitive bore with your endless titbits!  Frankly I don't give a kippers doodah what's being said in dark circles and lurking under bridges, it has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann.  It's the people that feign to be McCann sceptics but appear to be pulling in the opposite direction that concern me.  They can be more troublesome than a whole legion of McCannite's.
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Post by Joss 06.06.15 13:33

IMO, S. Poulton is trying to re establish and further her career as a journalist, or whatever she purports to be, and has found the perfect platform to do just that. The Madeleine McCann case. I don't think she really cares about the case other than that. Again, JMO.

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Post by Joss 06.06.15 13:38

Verdi wrote:
tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.
Troll seems to have become a by-word for anyone or thing acceptable, unacceptable and/or indifferent - there's not even an established standard definition of the word is there?  The Trollish Dossier was thrown out by the authorities which is a sure indication of the time wasting factor involved here.

Put up or shut up Ms Poulton - you've become the definitive bore with your endless titbits!  Frankly I don't give a kippers doodah what's being said in dark circles and lurking under bridges, it has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann.  It's the people that feign to be McCann sceptics but appear to be pulling in the opposite direction that concern me.  They can be more troublesome than a whole legion of McCannite's.
LOL, I said that a while back that she needs to either put up or shut up. But i was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. I am re thinking my views though, and i really will be surprised if anything comes of her documentary.

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Post by Tony Bennett 06.06.15 13:39

snook wrote:She was sacked by Icke for being unprofessional @ puzzled. He may have some crazy theories but he is a professional presenter so I think that tells us about Poulton. Surprise surprise she than launched an attack on him, promising a revelatory video. Another surprise.  It never materialised.
Another suprise.

She claimed she couldn't show it 'for legal reasons'.

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Tony Bennett wrote:
snook wrote:She was sacked by Icke for being unprofessional @ puzzled. He may have some crazy theories but he is a professional presenter so I think that tells us about Poulton. Surprise surprise she than launched an attack on him, promising a revelatory video. Another surprise.  It never materialised.
Another suprise.

She claimed she couldn't show it 'for legal reasons'.

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Yep, "Dupers Delight". Seen that look on a pic. posted of George Zimmerman too, in the Trayvon Martin case.

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Post by Tony Bennett 06.06.15 13:57

In the dim distant past I recall Sonia Poulton artfully posed by a Christmas tree, promising us 'shocks' and 'revelations' galore - and she had an untold story to tell.

Actually, the untold story of Sonia's documentary might be an interesting one too.

I know we have had many promised launches of her documentary, but I for one am sure that, when the time is right, it will indeed be launched.

When I saw this vid of a 'Chrtstmas Tree' rocket the other day, I was immediately taken back in my mind to that absorbing picture of the red-dressed Sonia by her Christmas tree, laden with promises, just as the Christmas tree was also laden with useless baubles.

I am very confident also that her documentary will 'take off' as succesfully as this one did:

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Tony Bennett wrote:In the dim distant past I recall Sonia Poulton artfully posed by a Christmas tree, promising us 'shocks' and 'revelations' galore - and she had an untold story to tell.

Actually, the untold story of Sonia's documentary might be an interesting one too.

I know we have had many promised launches of her documentary, but I for one am sure that, when the time is right, it will indeed be launched.

When I saw this vid of a 'Chrtstmas Tree' rocket the other day, I was immediately taken back in my mind to that absorbing picture of the red-dressed Sonia by her Christmas tree, laden with promises, just as the Christmas tree was also laden with useless baubles.

I am very confident also that her documentary will 'take off' as succesfully as this one did:

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Post by jeanmonroe 06.06.15 14:13

Has Dr Sharon 'the McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal commented further on Madeleine's 'disappearance' since she WASN'T 'duped' by ANYONE related to the mysterious 'disappearance'?
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jeanmonroe wrote:Has Dr Sharon 'the McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal commented further on Madeleine's 'disappearance' since she WASN'T 'duped' by ANYONE related to the mysterious 'disappearance'?
Who is Dr. Sharon Leal? Haven't heard of her before.

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Post by Liz Eagles 06.06.15 15:00

Joss wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Has Dr Sharon 'the McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal commented further on Madeleine's 'disappearance' since she WASN'T 'duped' by ANYONE related to the mysterious 'disappearance'?
Who is Dr. Sharon Leal? Haven't heard of her before.
This YouTube video is Dr. Sharon Leal

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Post by Joss 06.06.15 15:35

aquila wrote:
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jeanmonroe wrote:Has Dr Sharon 'the McCanns are 100% innocent' Leal commented further on Madeleine's 'disappearance' since she WASN'T 'duped' by ANYONE related to the mysterious 'disappearance'?
Who is Dr. Sharon Leal? Haven't heard of her before.
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Thanks for posting up the vid. of who she is Aquila. I was wondering in what capacity she was related to the McCann case, and being a Dr. if she knew them personally? Sorry, i should of been more specific.

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Post by Mark Willis 06.06.15 16:48

Verdi wrote:
tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.
Troll seems to have become a by-word for anyone or thing acceptable, unacceptable and/or indifferent - there's not even an established standard definition of the word is there?  The Trollish Dossier was thrown out by the authorities which is a sure indication of the time wasting factor involved here.

Put up or shut up Ms Poulton - you've become the definitive bore with your endless titbits!  Frankly I don't give a kippers doodah what's being said in dark circles and lurking under bridges, it has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann.  It's the people that feign to be McCann sceptics but appear to be pulling in the opposite direction that concern me.  They can be more troublesome than a whole legion of McCannite's.
Saved me a great deal of time writing the above, Verdi, given it echoes precisely what I was going to write.
Couple of things. I was a journalist (yeah, big deal) which means diddly, power-wise - unless you are the newspaper owner or Editor. However, it affords me a useful insight into what's going on here, not that you need to be an ex-anything to see how the land lies. To be blunt, this is what is technically known as "the bleedin' obvious".
Here goes...
Ms Poulton would like to be a televisual shock-jock; except we are not shocked. In fact, no prescience required.
We know precisely what we'll get and what we won't get. She is not exactly the ghost of Robin Day or David Frost.
Talking of the mentally departed there's Rent-a-Ghost, Ms Hutton, the tail of Poulton's guide dog, a willing sacrificial lamb who should remain silent (apologies to Thomas Harris). She is to articulacy what Arthur Mullard was to elocution. Her opprobrium viz Tony is his ability to be concise, informed and literate; let's not dignify her self-appointed misnomer "attractive" by any unnecessary expounding. Laughter should suffice.

We have another one on the loose, Ms Kleeman, who Richard Hall saw through immediately, as I am sure most of us have/did. 

You're right, Verdi. This is all about themselves, about on line trolls, certainly not matters Mc apropos the "alternative view". 
They show their hand by the prerequisite of wanting individuals to come forth to be filmed and/or named omitting to inform the "chosen" of the ostensible nature of their "documentary" "video" "pot-boiler" "sound byte" etc. Should they ever see the light of day...
I have witnessed this from having (the misfortune of) being on both sides of the media, as writer and reader.
Given that, (sometimes), I hardly recognised my own copy when printed, what chance Joe Public?
I'd wager about the same chance as Summers and Swan being mistaken for in-depth, perspicacious, non-partisan researchers.
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Post by aiyoyo 06.06.15 20:53

tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.

Even if her earth-shattering film is going to be about trolls, it is something to be reckoned with.  Except this prior teaser fanfare with her bad behavior of antagonizing  people on twitter as well as the vulgar ranting of her team member cum bestest mate megalomaniac Hutton on FB and twitter is all going to be fodder for the other side when the table is turned around when the other side retaliates, which they will, when the gloves are off, if ever her film gets to see the light of the day. 
She has never made any public denial to Hutton's claim that she is part of her team.

If she expects to get away with accusing people (especially team mccann and related people) of bad behavior, and not be mindful of her own and her team members behavior, she's going to be in for a shock when they put her in a tight corner.
 
The newspapers are going to be all over her like a rash, turning it around to McCanns' advantage, when the Mcs PR machinery is wheeled out if it comes that eventuality.

People are right - it's looking more and more like this is about themselves.
 Madeleine is a convenient excuse they used to serve their purpose.
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Post by Guest 06.06.15 21:49

Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi wrote:
tigger wrote:So uncovering trolls is what is going to advance the quest to find what really happened to MBM? 

Is going to uncover what prompted the government  interference? 

Or is it going to tell us which people are 'pro' TM?  Exactly how is that going to help? 

I really dislike teasers -  SP has been tweeting teasers  for a very long time. It's time she published this earth-shaking news.
Troll seems to have become a by-word for anyone or thing acceptable, unacceptable and/or indifferent - there's not even an established standard definition of the word is there?  The Trollish Dossier was thrown out by the authorities which is a sure indication of the time wasting factor involved here.

Put up or shut up Ms Poulton - you've become the definitive bore with your endless titbits!  Frankly I don't give a kippers doodah what's being said in dark circles and lurking under bridges, it has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann.  It's the people that feign to be McCann sceptics but appear to be pulling in the opposite direction that concern me.  They can be more troublesome than a whole legion of McCannite's.
Saved me a great deal of time writing the above, Verdi, given it echoes precisely what I was going to write.
Couple of things. I was a journalist (yeah, big deal) which means diddly, power-wise - unless you are the newspaper owner or Editor. However, it affords me a useful insight into what's going on here, not that you need to be an ex-anything to see how the land lies. To be blunt, this is what is technically known as "the bleedin' obvious".
Here goes...
Ms Poulton would like to be a televisual shock-jock; except we are not shocked. In fact, no prescience required.
We know precisely what we'll get and what we won't get. She is not exactly the ghost of Robin Day or David Frost.
Talking of the mentally departed there's Rent-a-Ghost, Ms Hutton, the tail of Poulton's guide dog, a willing sacrificial lamb who should remain silent (apologies to Thomas Harris). She is to articulacy what Arthur Mullard was to elocution. Her opprobrium viz Tony is his ability to be concise, informed and literate; let's not dignify her self-appointed misnomer "attractive" by any unnecessary expounding. Laughter should suffice.

We have another one on the loose, Ms Kleeman, who Richard Hall saw through immediately, as I am sure most of us have/did. 

You're right, Verdi. This is all about themselves, about on line trolls, certainly not matters Mc apropos the "alternative view". 
They show their hand by the prerequisite of wanting individuals to come forth to be filmed and/or named omitting to inform the "chosen" of the ostensible nature of their "documentary" "video" "pot-boiler" "sound byte" etc. Should they ever see the light of day...
I have witnessed this from having (the misfortune of) being on both sides of the media, as writer and reader.
Given that, (sometimes), I hardly recognised my own copy when printed, what chance Joe Public?
I'd wager about the same chance as Summers and Swan being mistaken for in-depth, perspicacious, non-partisan researchers.
Thanks for another insight into realistic down to earth journalism, things are never quite as  portrayed by those that like to glamorize a profession are they?

Stick the Poulton on Hard Talk - that'll separate the wheat from the chaff!

Years ago I recall seeing Tim Sebastian interviewing Heather Mills on Hard Talk prior to her infamous liaison with Sir Paul McCartney,  my immediate reaction was the woman is a fantasist -  a consumate liar.   In his own inimitable style, Sebastian brought the woman's soul out into the open without her even realizing.  Clearly she thought she was giving a frank warts 'n all interview but in truth she was selling her soul to the devil by the skilled hand of Tim Sebastian.  Bravo that man, what a delight to behold!

Whilst at it they could even feature the Poulton barker and make it a double act.  Oh joy!  Talking of whom, whatever damage she does to her own reputation is nothing to me, she (fortunately) doesn't feature in my world on planet earth.  I do however strongly resent people that live in a virtual world and use that detachment from reality to create mischief, more so because I believe they attract an audience that hang on to their every word - as can be seen by their on line following of twitterers.
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Post by Mark Willis 06.06.15 22:31

Bravo. You put that well, Verdi. 
It's easy to spot the disparity between those who are committed to the "cause", being, the realistic version of what happened on May 3rd 2007, and those seeking to further their own "careers".
First rule of journalism is print and be damned, not scattergun trailers and tasters - essentially, you don't busy yourself stealing your own thunder.
So Ms Poulton's over-hyped but belated presumed exposé is about as enticing as a British Rail sandwich.
The self-absorbed mewlings of Ms Hutton a source of unintentional amusement.
Ms Kleeman busy making Birch look diplomatic.
What we have had is seven marvellous videos by Richard Hall, then the surprise (and very successful) Goncalo GoFundMe by Leanne: no "blockbuster coming soon" fanfare, no "you will be astonished at what I have here" rodomontade.
Easy to talk the talk; not so easy to walk the walk.
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Post by Tony Bennett 06.06.15 23:03

Mark Willis wrote:Bravo. You put that well, Verdi. 
It's easy to spot the disparity between those who are committed to the "cause", being, the realistic version of what happened on May 3rd 2007, and those seeking to further their own "careers".
First rule of journalism is print and be damned, not scattergun trailers and tasters - essentially, you don't busy yourself stealing your own thunder.
So Ms Poulton's over-hyped but belated presumed exposé is about as enticing as a British Rail sandwich.
The self-absorbed mewlings of Ms Hutton a source of unintentional amusement.
Ms Kleeman busy making Birch look diplomatic.
What we have had is seven marvellous videos by Richard Hall, then the surprise (and very successful) Goncalo GoFundMe by Leanne: no "blockbuster coming soon" fanfare, no "you will be astonished at what I have here" rodomontade.
Easy to talk the talk; not so easy to walk the walk.
'aquila' asked the other day: 'Where is Madeleine in all this?', referring to the bitching and name-calling.

Another poster called it all 'silliness'.

I want to provide a brief answer to aquila's question.

She [aquila] is here, like the vast majority of us on this forum these days, because we have genuine concerns about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. We discuss the case. We research things. We disagree about some things, usually amicably, but occasionally not.

This forum is most definitely about Madeleine McCann and what happened to her. The massive volume of research, discussion and information here speaks volumes about the commitment of members here to the truth.

And, whether some people like it or not, this has been for four years now by a long way the best-read Madeleine McCann discussion forum on the planet.

By a long way.

So, one has to ask, why have Poulton & Hutton (together with not a few other hangers-on) been engaged on a year-long series of attacks on us here at CMOMM?

And given Mark Willis' comment above (What we have had is seven marvellous videos by Richard Hall), with which hundreds of thousands clearly agree, looking at the nearly half a million views of it by now on YouTube, why do the likes of Poulton and Hutton not go all out to promote and circulate Hall's videos? But the pair of them never even mention him!

So this is where we are.

Richard Hall's 7 videos, the True Story of Madeleine McCann and the Phantoms, have been seen by over a million if you include views on Hall's website or on blip.tv - no fanfare beforehand.

Poulton by contrast trumpets for nearly a year her as-yet-untold documentary, The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann, she never bothers to promote Hall's documentary, she sits on Rupert Murdoch's sofa every month taking the Murdoch shilling, and then abuses this forum, along with her long-standing friend Hutton.

aquila, it's because we care about Madeleine that we care about those who deliberately set out to do damage to us here.

And therefore it is legitimate to take the likes of Poulton and Hutton to task, and expose what we think may be their agenda.

If they are actively trying to disrupt or undermine this forum, as they have been, that is surely something that we have every right to complain about. Are they not actually hampering our work for Madeleine here? 

One final thing - it has laughably been suggested in certain quarters that there is a 'campaign' by me and others to 'suppress' this documentary - and to 'stop it coming out'.

Nothing could be further from the truth. For nearly a year, I along with others have been waiting to see it! I hope it does come out and I hope it is good.

I have only sought to highlight aspects of Poulton's work so as to lower expectations...

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Post by Angelique 07.06.15 1:16

I have to say that the only progress SP seems to be achieving is disruption as TB says.

It seems to me that if we could look deeper into the relationship between SP and RH and MSM/Murdoch the answer is possibly the drowning out interest in finding the Truth by setting people against each other.

Maybe this was/is the real agenda and the documentary is the by-product.

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Post by Tony Bennett 07.06.15 8:06

Angelique wrote:I have to say that the only progress SP seems to be achieving is disruption as TB says.

It seems to me that if we could look deeper into the relationship between SP and RH and MSM/Murdoch the answer is possibly the drowning out interest in finding the Truth by setting people against each other.

Maybe this was/is the real agenda and the documentary is the by-product.
Think you might be very close to the truth there @ Angelique.

There is another even more disturbing possibility: namely that the documentary will never appear - Sonia giving some excuse or other - but the information she has gathered about McCann-doubters will be used against us by her paymaster, Rupert Murdoch

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Post by Mark Willis 07.06.15 8:24

Well said, Tony.
Takes me back to Day 1. The Mirror Forum. 3 Arguidos. Madeleine Foundation....
The days of you being the first to walk the walk. The days when we had bloggers who did their research like you have/do.
When we could trust those we figured were on the side of good, the desire to seek justice for Madeleine and illuminate whatever her parents may or may not have done.
Today it is/can be a farce.
Yet, there obtains a constant.
Yourself Tony, what I call "The Havern" (phonetically apt!), namely, this site and its members, its debates, its sincerity.
It really is the place to come to for the griff, same as the mccannfiles is to archives.

The Twitter mccann tag is a pathetic playground for all manner of idiots and nastiness. 
I dip in only to see those rare snippets of up-to-the-minute links, be that actual news, to a sensible blog, an impartial news item on line, news from Lisbon/Portugal, Goncalo etc.
No point engaging with anyone on there, even the "good guys". The whole place is a joke.

So here is where I go. I don't comment much but read it all and have done since Adam was a lad.
Always a good barometer to how functional a site is when the criticism of said becomes rife.
The irony, such as that which emanates from the likes of Ms Hutton, is both staggering, sad and hilarious at the same time.

I've seen them all: from Morais to Spudgun, Serageant's Inn, Blacksmith, Lazzeri: from Steel Magnolia to Pat Brown, Hoffman.
These days we have/endure: Poulton to Kleeman, to Hutton and Birch. Who one chooses to engage with is up to you.

Some of the "early days ones" I once trusted have turned out to be straw men/women, some self serving but fortunately some bona fide. 

Eight years. Don't expect any denouement soon. This is the latter-day Lord Lucan of cases.
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Post by lj 07.06.15 16:34

Mark Willis wrote:Well said, Tony.
Takes me back to Day 1. The Mirror Forum. 3 Arguidos. Madeleine Foundation....
The days of you being the first to walk the walk. The days when we had bloggers who did their research like you have/do.
When we could trust those we figured were on the side of good, the desire to seek justice for Madeleine and illuminate whatever her parents may or may not have done.
Today it is/can be a farce.
Yet, there obtains a constant.
Yourself Tony, what I call "The Havern" (phonetically apt!), namely, this site and its members, its debates, its sincerity.
It really is the place to come to for the griff, same as the mccannfiles is to archives.

The Twitter mccann tag is a pathetic playground for all manner of idiots and nastiness. 
I dip in only to see those rare snippets of up-to-the-minute links, be that actual news, to a sensible blog, an impartial news item on line, news from Lisbon/Portugal, Goncalo etc.
No point engaging with anyone on there, even the "good guys". The whole place is a joke.

So here is where I go. I don't comment much but read it all and have done since Adam was a lad.
Always a good barometer to how functional a site is when the criticism of said becomes rife.
The irony, such as that which emanates from the likes of Ms Hutton, is both staggering, sad and hilarious at the same time.

I've seen them all: from Morais to Spudgun, Serageant's Inn, Blacksmith, Lazzeri: from Steel Magnolia to Pat Brown, Hoffman.
These days we have/endure: Poulton to Kleeman, to Hutton and Birch. Who one chooses to engage with is up to you.

Some of the "early days ones" I once trusted have turned out to be straw men/women, some self serving but fortunately some bona fide. 

Eight years. Don't expect any denouement soon. This is the latter-day Lord Lucan of cases.


You gave me a good laugh Mark Willis, and you are very right.

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