Re: Sky news 7pm - Exclusive new report on Madeleine McCann investigation tonight - 1 Sept 2014

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 02.09.14 7:11

Now that it's been said that the British police hampered the search for Madeleine McCann, will the McCanns now sue the British police?

by tiny 02.09.14 7:19

Funny how this has come out now just when the trial is about to start again

by **sharonl** 02.09.14 7:29

Secret Madeleine McCann report finds competing British forces hampered inquiry

Police chiefs fighting to be seen to be helping in the search for Madeleine McCann alienated Portuguese authorities and had a long-term impact on the investigation, report finds

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Madeleine McCann went missing from a Portuguese holiday complex in 2007 Photo: PA

By Telegraph reporter
7:38PM BST 01 Sep 2014

British police forces competing to been seen to be helping find Madeleine McCann hampered the investigation and has had a long term negative effect, a secret Home Office report found.
The unpublished report by Jim Gamble, former head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), found that so many UK agencies got involved it damaged relations with Portuguese police.
The report, commissioned by former Home Secretary Alan Johnson in 2009, was delivered in 2010 and led to the Metropolitan Police reopening the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, but was never released.
For the first time details have been briefed to Sky News, revealing that Mr Gamble criticised the Association of Chief Police Officers decision to put Leicestershire Police in charge of the operation because the McCanns lives in the county, despite the fact the force was ill-equipped to deal with such a big investigation.
Mr Gamble said that within weeks of Madeleine going missing in May 2007 the Portuguese were given advice by CEOP, the Metropolitan Police, the Serious Organised Crime Agency and the National Police Improvement Agency.

The Crimestoppers charity published its own appeal hotline and different Government ministers – No 10, the Home Office and the Foreign Office – were demanding briefings from the various agencies.
Mr Gamble said: “All of us, including myself at CEOP at the time, your first gut reaction is you want to help, a child has gone missing … so everyone came with best intention, that created a sense of chaos and a sense of competition, people putting their hand up and wanting to help and in many instances in my opinion wanting to be seen to help.
“If we look at it honestly there were some in leadership roles who wanted to represent their organisation to be seen to take a lead role and be seen to provide critical input in this and that made it difficult for a small, regional force like Leicestershire.
“It was unhelpful … I've no doubt relationships from the outset with the Portuguese were impacted by it and I think that had a long term negative effect on the investigation and I think to this very day the Met investigation team that's engaged now are still having to manage and massage that relationship and perhaps to be fair to the Portuguese, mend some fences that were trodden on in the early days.”
He has refused to discuss the content of his report, but leaked details reveals that the intervention of multiple British police forces and crime agencies led to "frustration" and "resentment" among the Portuguese police who believed that their British counterparts were on the side of the McCanns.
Because of the challenges to the way the Portuguese police were investigating Britain was warned that they should not try to act as a "colonial power".
Discussing the investigation Mr Gamble said that the initial Portuguese police response to Madeleine’s disappearance was "haphazard".
“There was chaos, and as it went on it was haphazard which was alien to the more structured police you would expect here in the UK. There was not a sense of order.
“In the first instance the parents should be your Number One suspects. In most cases in the first few golden hours as you collect evidence you can then rule them in or out.
“And that was one of the huge flaws in this, that people didn't focus on clearing the ground beneath their feet in those chaotic first few hours that led into the haphazard first few weeks.
“When I carried out the scoping review there was no evidence that some of the critical information and the analysis of which could have led to intelligence and to leads had been followed up.”
One of Mr Gamble’s recommendations in his report was the establishment of a national centre for missing children which could combine the resources of the best experts and technology.
However, this has not been set up and therefore the British authorities are no better equipped to deal with a similar situation than they were in 2007, Mr Gamble warns.
However, despite the failings Mr Gamble remains confident that Madeleine's case will be solved.
“Someone knows … I genuinely believe in my lifetime we will find out what happened. Relationships, loyalties change, and at some stage some person will come forward.”
Author Anthony Summers, whose book ‘Looking for Madeleine’ is out next week and contains further revelations about the case, said: “It was a case of too many cooks, all with good intentions, spoiling the broth of the initial investigation. And then the mistakes, or should I say the missteps, began to pile one upon another.”
Co-author Robbyn Swan added: “The problems that grew out of the race to help in the initial phase of the Madeleine investigation, the problems of the lack of co-ordination between the Portuguese and the British police, the bad feeling, the lack of translation ability, those things have not been fundamentally addressed.”

by **Tony Bennett** 02.09.14 7:41

sharonl wrote:Secret Madeleine McCann report finds competing British forces hampered inquiry
Police chiefs fighting to be seen to be helping in the search for Madeleine McCann alienated Portuguese authorities and had a long-term impact on the investigation, report finds...

Author Anthony Summers, whose book ‘Looking for Madeleine’ is out next week and contains further revelations about the case, said: “It was a case of too many cooks, all with good intentions, spoiling the broth of the initial investigation. And then the mistakes, or should I say the missteps, began to pile one upon another.”
Co-author Robbyn Swan added: “The problems that grew out of the race to help in the initial phase of the Madeleine investigation, the problems of the lack of co-ordination between the Portuguese and the British police, the bad feeling, the lack of translation ability, those things have not been fundamentally addressed.”

In the publisher's blurb for Summer & Swan's 'Looking for Madeleine', it states:

They have examined the released Portuguese files, conducted in-depth interviews and original research to answer the questions: What can we really know about this most emotive of cases? What can we learn from it?

It looks like one of the key 'in-depth interviews' they conducted was with Jim Gamble, and one of the highlights of their 'original research' is quoting from snippets from his top secret report which has been leaked to them.

Even without considering Summers and Swan's previous track record, it's already clear that murky figures like Clarence Mitchell and Jim Gamble have basically written this book, with Summers and Swan's names on it - a sort of 'ghost-written' book.

The publication of the book on 11 September (9/11) will no doubt give the likes of Lorraine Kelly the opportunity to make a nice 'link' by introducing these authors on their sofas next week by highlighting how Summers and Swan wrote 'the most definitive accounht possible' of 9/11.

by palm tree 02.09.14 7:50

What really p#sses me off is, it's now said the search was hampered through so much organisations wanting to help aka not mudding the water just helping. Then there's, in the first few hours the parents would have been ruled in or out, but good people wanting to help, hampered that too. And ofcourse, no mention of Eddie and Keela, oh no, their not going that far, hell no!
IMO

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 8:04

Tony Bennett wrote:
Even without considering Summers and Swan's previous track record, it's already clear that murky figures like Clarence Mitchell and Jim Gamble have basically written this book, with Summers and Swan's names on it - a sort of 'ghost-written' book.

We have a lot of stuff written and said by Gamble and Mitchell
People who write and speak a lot develop specific turns of phrase, and use highly specific vocabulary
I wonder if 'well known prases and expressions" will turn up in the book.

by ChippyM 02.09.14 8:14

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PeterMac wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Even without considering Summers and Swan's previous track record, it's already clear that murky figures like Clarence Mitchell and Jim Gamble have basically written this book, with Summers and Swan's names on it - a sort of 'ghost-written' book.
We have a lot of stuff written and said by Gamble and Mitchell
People who write and speak a lot develop specific turns of phrase, and use highly specific vocabulary
I wonder if 'well known prases and expressions" will turn up in the book.

If Mitchell and Gamble and behind this book, what is Jim Gamble doing telling the guardian that the parents should be suspects first and that figures in the British police messed things up for the Pj ?

I'm not disagreeing that this new book seems completely biased but I just can't get my head round Gamble saying these things, unless it is some kind of damage control for things that may come out soon.

by Evening_All 02.09.14 8:22

jeanmonroe wrote:"In the first instance, the parents should be your number one suspects," he (JG) told Sky. "In most cases, in the first few golden hours, as you collect evidence, you can then rule them in or out. And that was one of the huge flaws in this............
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"In the first instance, the parents should be your number one suspects,"

AND THEY WERE JIM, THEY WERE, BY THE PJ WITHIN HOURS!

The ONLY 'flaw' in the first golden hours, was the PJ didn't believe a single word the T9 told them right from the 'get go'!

"our friend Jane, SAW, from a distance of FIFTY (50) METRES a man carrying Madeleine off"

McCanns statements, 4th May, 2007. BOTH of them saying 50 METRES!

"The shutter WAS 'smashed, broken, jemmied, forced'

Take your pick who SAID that!

Even people back in the UK were SAYING that, as though 'gospel' within hours!

"long haired 'abductor' JT&KM "short haired 'abductor' Smiths.

"it was hot" "it was cold"

etc.,

Yeah Jim, the huge FLAWS, not just ONE, in the golden hours, started on evening of 3rd May 2007at 10pm and the PJ 'sussed' them, that very same night!

Just one simple anomally. Why did the PJ allow GM to be present at KMs first interview? If there was ever a chance to split opinions/stories then that was it. If they had really been sussed there would have been more resource allocated to catch all of those responsible for perverting the course of justice. IE all of the tapas eating and drinking club.

by Doug D 02.09.14 8:41

ChippyM:
‘ I'm not disagreeing that this new book seems completely biased but I just can't get my head round Gamble saying these things, unless it is some kind of damage control for things that may come out soon’

I must confess to similar thoughts.

Brunty Sky snippet:
JG told me: ‘Even now he had to be careful what he said in case someone threw their toys out of the pram……’

(Are we talking super-inaudible here?)

Snippets from The Guardian report:

‘Jim Gamble, the former head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) and the author of the report, also said the government had not learned from its mistakes, saying that it "does not understand the complexities of child abuse".

He told the Guardian that agencies developed an "organisational arrogance" in the rush to help. He said: "Each one thought that their agency would bring the best to bear on this. We were all guilty."

However, Gamble said that lessons had not been learnt from the McCann investigation because Theresa May had snubbed calls for a national resource to deal with child exploitation.

Following the spate of recent child abuse scandals, Gamble accused the government of failing to act sufficiently to tackle the issue. He said: "In the face of Rotherham; in the face of over 500 coming forward over Savile; in the face of everything we know we don't know enough about, we need a credible overarching review. And the truth is, we haven't got it."

What is JG trying to say here?

Is he looking to get his defence in early of criticisms of him and others in the new book (which he has clearly already seen) and why throw ‘child abuse’ and ‘child exploitation’ into the McCann mix from his side at this stage?

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 9:00

Evening_All wrote:
Just one simple anomally. Why did the PJ allow GM to be present at KMs first interview? If there was ever a chance to split opinions/stories then that was it.

That was the PJs biggest and most crucial mistake. Not only did Gerry sit in but he was allowed to signal to Kate by squeezing her shoulder.

Gerry was first. He was interviewed alone. When his statement was completed Kate followed.
Unusually Gerry was permitted to remain in the interview room, whilst Kate was interviewed and her statement was taken.
He was permitted to sit behind her and she states that from time to time he “would place a hand on my shoulder or give me a reassuring squeeze”.
Further observation
3 Physical contact of this sort may be reassuring. It can also be a very effective method of communication.

They lost the Golden Opportunity ti prove beyond a reasonable doubt . . . and it took them another few days to get back on track, by which time TM had pulled their protective shield round them

by aiyoyo 02.09.14 10:11

tiny wrote:Funny how this has come out now just when the trial is about to start again

Likely it's to do with the book about to be released containing extracts of CEOP's secret report leaked to Summers directly from the horse's mouth. Maybe JG was one of the mccanns team interviewed by Summers.

by jeanmonroe 02.09.14 10:41

report finds competing British forces hampered the investigation into Madeleine McCanns 'disappearance'
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"overheard" from Chataeu Rothley, France, near England.

"Phew that was lucky, Tiny Tears, Big Jim's report saying that British Police forces hampered the investigation into Madeleine's 'disappearance'"

"Aye, Hotlips, it dosen't appear we're going to get anything out of that 'sardine muncher' for hampering the investigation into Maddie's, er, Madeline's 'disappearance', so we'll sue, for say, £5 million in damages for ourselves, the twins and er, um, whatshername, umm, Margaret, all those British Police forces, who hampered the investigation into Maggie's 'disappearance' just like we're claiming 'sardine boy' did. We'll call Big Jimmy as our star witness"

"okay, i'll give Farter Cluck, a bell, after our full English, tomorrow"

"Goodnight Tiny Tears"

"Goodnight Hotlips"

"Goodnight Jim Bob"

by NickE 02.09.14 10:43

Angry punters on Sky News Facebook page. No-one is buying the abduction fairy-tale.
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by Doug D 02.09.14 10:59

Full Sky report (link courtesy of Candyfloss on her new site, thank you)

From this it is apparent that it is the PJ that JG is talking about when he mention throwing their toys out.

Very much a promotional piece, with both the authors having a good say and JG going on about 'amber alert' again.

Having watched this, I hold out no hope for the book and as TB has said above, it looks very much like a CM/JG/TM collaboration.

by palm tree 02.09.14 11:06

NickE wrote:Angry punters on Sky News Facebook page. No-one is buying the abduction fairy-tale.
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Excellent, if everyone sticks together and keeps this up surely OG will get down to the nitty gritty and have to look at the parents. They'll not get nowhere until the obvious is looked at, and that's where it will end, the exact place as Goncalo Amaral IMO

by jozi 02.09.14 11:24

Doug D wrote:

Full Sky report (link courtesy of Candyfloss on her new site, thank you)

From this it is apparent that it is the PJ that JG is talking about when he mention throwing their toys out.

Very much a promotional piece, with both the authors having a good say and JG going on about 'amber alert' again.

Having watched this, I hold out no hope for the book and as TB has said above, it looks very much like a CM/JG/TM collaboration.

Is there a job coming up ??? He is blaming everybody except himself ???

" Gamble said that lessons had not been learned from the McCann investigation because [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] had snubbed calls for a national resource to deal with child exploitation.
He told the Guardian: "CEOP was something that was created by the Labour government, so it was something that had to be changed by the coalition government. I think it was an act of political vandalism.
"The home secretary didn't understand what she was doing when I met with her. I asked her to explain her rationale for going against the lessons that had been learned.
"She couldn't give me a single answer. She couldn't utter a single word across the table to explain why she thought this was a good idea. But they pushed on anyway."

Poor poor Jim, if they had only listened to him !!!

by HelenMeg 02.09.14 11:30

Follow up article in Times this morning :

Competition between British police forces to be seen to be helping in the search for Madeleine McCann has hampered the investigation, a secret review commissioned in 2009 by the government has concluded.
The Association of Chief Police Officers put the Leicestershire force in charge of the investigation, but it was ill-equipped to handle a major inquiry and Portuguese officers believed British police were biased in favour of Madeleine’s parents, the review found.
Jim Gamble, the report’s author, told Sky News that the intervention of competing police chiefs had had a long-term negative effect on the investigation.
The report by Mr Gamble, the former head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, was handed over before an order by David Cameron in 2010 to Scotland Yard to open a new investigation, three years after Madeleine’s disappearance from Praia da Luz shortly before her fourth birthday.
Operation Grange, which is costing £2.5 million a year, led to police searches of three sites in the Algarve resort where Madeleine disappeared and interviews with several people, including two potential suspects.
Sky News said the report concluded that the intervention of multiple UK police forces and agencies created “frustration” and “resentment” among the Portuguese police who believed that British officers were on the side of Kate and Gerry McCann, the missing girl’s parents.
The Home Office has refused to release a copy of the report under freedom of information laws.
The Crimestoppers charity published an appeal hotline and Gordon Brown’s office and Home Office and Foreign Office ministers were demanding briefings from the various agencies.
Mr Gamble said: “Everyone came with best intention, that created a sense of chaos and a sense of competition, people putting their hand up and wanting to help and in many instances in my opinion wanting to be seen to help.
“I think to this very day the Met investigation team that’s engaged now are still having to manage and massage that relationship and perhaps to be fair to the Portuguese, mend some fences that were trodden on in the early days.”
Scotland Yard and Leicestershire police refused to comment on the report. A spokesman for Mr and Mrs McCann said: “Kate and Gerry are very happy with the work of Operation Grange and would encourage anyone with information to contact the police.”

Isn't this great cause for optimism?
The tide is surely turning. Its time to be fair to the Portuguese police at last - maybe they were on the right track after all.

Finally .,..............we 're getting there

by jeanmonroe 02.09.14 11:41

Poor poor Jim, if they had only listened to him !!!
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Then all those THOUSANDS of exploited, abused kids in Rotherham, Rochdale, Peterborough, Oxford, etc., could have been 'savveeed'!

Oh hang on.

...all those THOUSANDS of exploited, abused kids in Rotherham, Rochdale, Peterborough, Oxford, etc., HAPPENED ON BIG JIM'S 'WATCH'!

I wonder if he was 'told' about this industrial scale abuse, whilst at CEOP, BUT HE DIDN'T LISTEN, and did NOTHING?

If the didn't know about these kids being exploited and abused, he SHOULD of been sacked for incompetence.

If he did know, but did nothing, he should be 'arrested' alongside the South Yorkshire PCC.

all imo......................

Anyone care to 'speculate' why the McCann's never 'hired' Big Jim G, and pay his 'salary' from Madeleine's Fund, their registered private limited company, to work exclusively, for them, to co-ordinate, their strenuous 'efforts' to find Madeleine, the very next day, after he 'threw his toys out of the pram' and resigned, 'in a strop' from CEOP?

by Smokeandmirrors 02.09.14 12:13

Hmmm… this is all rather interesting……..

Why did so many agencies fall over themselves to get involved? Not for a solitary child, that is certain. The mad scramble was to protect whom? Why did the Brits need to muddy the water so comprehensively the minute the parents lies about the shutters were exposed?

And by now saying the Brits interference/water muddying hampered the search, it somewhat vindicates the Bungling Sardine Munchers, does it not?

Well, the current focus on pedophile rings, whether they be in Rochdale, or the hallowed corridors of Parliament, and the less hallowed green rooms of the BBC, tends to suggest something regarding this crazy farce is linked to the broader picture. I don't see drug addled tractor drivers being mentioned by Brunty any time soon.

And I am quietly confident that Sr Amaral will have good cause to pop a bottle of the fizzy stuff pretty soon.

If it comes to light (and IMO it will) that the whole Madeleine farce has been allowed to continue to protect a pedophile ring, most likely with strong connections to the British powers that be, there will be absolute hell to pay.

by Jamming 02.09.14 12:40

I see they still use the terms "fired" & "sacking" when referring to GA, stopped short of using "disgraced" though...

by jeanmonroe 02.09.14 13:14

"Ms Durate, is it still your clients stated position that only Mr Amaral's writings, including extracts from an earlier official PJ report, in his book, hampered the investigation, and harmed the search, into Madeleine's 'disappearance'"?

"Given the recent revelations by the ex head of CEOP, in the UK, that various agencies, including his own, and Police forces, from the UK, hampered, and by associated definition, must have harmed, the investigation into Madeleine's 'disappearance'. Is it still your clients contention that only Mr GA's book, containing, repeating, the same conclusions as an official PJ report, hampered, and harmed, the investigation into their daughter's 'disappearance,'?

by worriedmum 02.09.14 13:16

jeanmonroe wrote:"Mrs Durate, is it still your clients stated position that only Mr Amaral's writings, including extracts from an earlier official PJ report, in his book, hampered the investigation, and harmed the search, into Madeleine's 'disappearance'"?

"Given the recent revelations by the ex head of CEOP, in the UK, that various agencies, including his own, and Police forces, from the UK, hampered the investigation into Madeleine's 'disappearance. Is it still your clients contention that only Mr GA's book, containing, repeating, the same conclusions as an official PJ report, hampered the investigation into their daughter's 'disappearance,'

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 13:20

Touché !

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 13:24

Nikki Bell Tell me how the parents who want only the best for their terminally ill son can face neglect charges & not this poor little girls....
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Stella Hope The parents hampered the search!!
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Louisa Hill The parents hampered the search with lies, changing statements, not searching themselves preferring to make up 2 timelines, Kate cleaning the apartment, washing cuddlecat, and refusing to cooperate with the police Kate in particular refusing to answer 48/49 questions.
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Steve Barlow Competition what a load of bob. These pair of arrogant shits have hampered the investigation from day one. The world knows they are guilty and now very rich as a result. Let karma sort the pair of em.
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Charlotte Louise Parents did it end off so much proof Kate not answering 48 questions for a start
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Kelly Evans Caring parents get held in custody, neglectful parents become millionaires!
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Francesca Paige So called parents fault, can't believe that people still think they are innocent, check the Madeline McCann Controversy and the Justice for Madeline facebook groups all the evidence etc is on them.
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Steve King Give the parents a lie detector test.
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John Hoey Parent's fault simple as that n they walked away from it scot free
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Stella Hope And rich!
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Colleen Reign Something weird about parents-they should be held accountable for her disappearance!
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Beverley Ball let me say this 7 years down the line and there is NO evidence of ny abduction but more than enough evidence towards the parents. the only hampering that ha been done is by team mccann and the people trying to protect them
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Sharon Bavister And still no charges bought against the parents. ..... yet a couple fighting for their sons life get arrested for neglect
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Debbie James Get Brunty to ask them why they made mortgage payments out of the Find Madeline fund.
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Helen Kirsty Antcliff Did the McCann parents simulate an abduction?
What did the UK police dogs alert to in appartment 5a and the parents hire car (rented 3 weeks after Maddies' reported disappearance)?
What were the 48 questions that Kate McCann refused to answer?...See More
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Gary Wyatt Why did the find Madeleine company no stone unturned not produce the efit of the Smith family sighting which they had? It was released by Scotland Yard on crimewatch and looked like Gerry Mccann to me
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Lynn Gilbert I would like to know………... why Gerry McCann had direct contact with the then prime minister in the first few hours after Maddie disappeared?? Answer that Sky News!!
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Sam Reily-Smith Stop wasting our money and investigate the McCann's. The only evidence there is points to Kate and Gerry, there was no abduction.
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Sue Maria The parents hampered the investigation from the off, then when the British government got involved it hampered it even more the pj did as good a job as possible and they gathered enough evidence to know that a abduction did not take place, evidence to prove the parents are liars etc but still the British government/police try to fill us with bs after bs
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Amy Pitt The British police wouldn't give PJ any help. Which is worrying! But then the parents refusing to help is worse. The amount of questions kate refused to answer is scary. I'd have given my bra size if they'd have asked me!
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Isabel Oliveira Tips for Sky: Investigate the Forensic Science services ( FSS) Birmingham who presented incorrect results in the Damilola Taylor case and ask them , why did they destroy the samples of an open case relating to Madeleine Mccann when all their results w...See More
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Shannon Paige Siddons I'm 18 and even I could write a better murder plan than those! I've watched controversy DVD and witnessed some appalling government scandal! It's sickening that we let this go by! Get the McCann files read and then tell me there innocent, or maybe more will leak and the government are too afraid! Hmmm
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Mark Hayes The parents are at fault with this, as far as I'm concerned, they know what happened to her.
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Kelly Evans Why do our comments get censored Sky News? Why aren't we allowed to speak the truth?
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Karen Kelly I totally agree parents still to blame especially for leaving the 3 but I can't
understand if she was abducted why only maddie and not all three of them something still not right with the case I said that all along get the parents in for questions again surely the must know.
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Steve Barlow Yes read the justice for madelin page on facebook it makes very interesting reading.
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Gary Wyatt Hopefully Goncalo Amaral will be able to make the arrests on those responsible for covering up the death of the poor 3 year old girl who cadaver dogs proved died.
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Wendy Perrins They didn't.
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Liz Newman Scotland Yard and the Government can try and cover this up as much as they want, however, the problem they have is the Official Police Files are there on the internet for all to see. We can read and watch the video's we know who is to blame. We know ...See More
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Geoff Williams Dogs dont lie !!!!!!!!!!!
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Helen Morris Read all the case files, read Goncalo Amarals' book.Watch Buried by the Mainstream Media by Richard D.Hall.No evidence of an abduction
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Natasha Godbehere I trust the dogs! Madeleine's parents are involved with her disappearance.
Read all the case files.
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Gary Wyatt No evidence of abduction at all.
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Bohden Chalawaka Well worth watching these -........... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Sam Studley Why haven't Scotland Yard read through the official PJ files released by the Portuguese police? The evidence is there for the world to see yet Sy are ignoring the inconsistancies in the McCann's (and their friends) statements, no sign of a break in, c...See More
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Helen Mcvey stop wasting tax payers money...we KNOW exactly who is responsible...this is a total farce....arrest them and be done with it...wwwcannfiles.com
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Beth Short Do the right thing sky!

Watch it-https://lm.facebook.com/l.php......See More
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Alice Lepage Her sick 'parents' need to be behind bars they murdered their daughter wether intended or not they still did it and covered it up!! Angers me so much this case because the evidence is all there..
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Brian Nelson parentsshould be in prison
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Linda Wrafter No one hampered this case more than McCanns,by telling lies from night one "Smashed shutters" scribbled out alibis,filling 5a with all friends therefore destroying a crime scene also Kates refusal to answer police questions and refusing to do a recon ,Eddie and Keela the FBI trusted dogs found Maddie death scent in 5a ,hire car after HUELVA trip and on Kates clothing ....case solved by a housewife
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Lizi Gray There has never been one piece of evidence to prove that MBM was abducted. There is evidence that someone died in apartment 5A. Who's missing?
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Rebecca O Sullivan Mc scams
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Michaella Anderton all the evidence is staring them in the face and yet thee real suspects still have not been arrested and charged this has hampered and dragged the search out!
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Colette Northern Biiatch O'Hara one of the worse things apart from what happened to maddy is the money that has been spent, raised and such over the years when it's as obvious to a blind man what went on (no offence intended).
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Bill Ronald The comedy show just goes on and on
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Matthew Stephen Williams I am sick of this now, I still blame the patents for leaving her on her own!!
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Russian Tee Bunton Not the police's fault! It's the parent's who are to blame in more ways than one
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Amanda Rippon True is mum n dad killed her.cover it up!!!!
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Steve Owers Mr Camaron , why have the mcanns not been arrested for at least neglect ? WHAT IS YOUR GOVERNMENT AND PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS GOT TO HIDE , its about time the british and our friends in portugal were told the truth
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Gary Wyatt Neil Bradley show the evidence of that comment. Then look at the police files which are true accounts of witness statements. Have u been asleep for 7 years or just believing what team mccann put to press
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Siobhan Feely dogs don't lie, answer the 48 questions Kate, Gasper Statements, "the truth of the lie" book they are suing investigator for is based on portuguese police files & yet they wanted to settle out of court, although they were SUING HIM..the smith Efits sur...See More
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Tiago Dias Parents are guilty.
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Lee Bcfc George the truth will come out mr-mrs McCann ur guilty as hell
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by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 13:35

Was it not Gamble who observed that "Loyalties change" over time.
Clearly his has, or he would not have said this BEFORE the final days of the damages trial.
He has just stuffed any remaining hope the McCanns ever had of blaming it all on Dr Amaral.
Nice one, Sir.
Good to see you have ditched them at last.

by jeanmonroe 02.09.14 14:00

Perhaps now OG and DCI Mahogany will not carry on with the pretence of questioning 'HIS' named suspects, just before Lisbon has readied itself for the return of the Saintly Duo?

IF YOU'RE IN A HOLE....................STOP DIGGING!

The UK 'agencies' HAMPERED, and HARMED, the investigation into a 3 years old 'missing' child.

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 14:06

jeanmonroe wrote:
The UK 'agencies' HAMPERED, and HARMED, the investigation into a 3 years old 'missing' child.

And by the look of it, continue to do so !

by nglfi 02.09.14 14:35

Petermac, are the above comments from the article going round on facebook comparing the parents of Ashya King to the McCanns? I myself commented on that and the last time I looked the article had 46, 000 odd likes! Good news

by **PeterMac** 02.09.14 14:58

nglfi wrote:Petermac, are the above comments from the article going round on facebook comparing the parents of Ashya King to the McCanns? I myself commented on that and the last time I looked the article had 46, 000 odd likes! Good news

They must surely be beginning to understand that even with Mitchell's help, they cannot fool all the people all of the time.

by Newintown 02.09.14 15:05

PeterMac wrote:Was it not Gamble who observed that "Loyalties change" over time.
Clearly his has, or he would not have said this BEFORE the final days of the damages trial.
He has just stuffed any remaining hope the McCanns ever had of blaming it all on Dr Amaral.
Nice one, Sir.
Good to see you have ditched them at last.

PeterMac,

Do you think someone may have got wind of what is about to come out regarding the damages trial and the SY investigation and JG is now into damage limitation as in now backtracking regarding his support of the McCanns in the past.

Do you think it's also possible that JG may have been interviewed by the PJ and SY with regard to his involvement with the McCanns and his input into the investigation and what he may have gleaned with spending so much time with them, could he now be getting nervous about what he should have done but didn't. I'm also thinking about JG inviting GM to speak at the Police awards ceremony and as to who gave GM the CEOP (?) manuals. Could JG be be in any trouble in way of perverting the course of justice?

Or am I clutching at straws? smilie

When I watched him on Sky News last night my immediate thought was that he has stuffed the damages trial good and proper but I thought I was in the minority as others have commented otherwise. I'm pleased to read that we both thought the same on that.

P.S. Sorry to ask you so many questions but you seem to have a good insight with your background.

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