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Post by Trust Your Instincts 09.06.14 18:43

j.rob your scenario is exactly how I think every night was on that holiday. It is my opinion that such a stressful, disorganised, pulling out hair, frazzled Mum moment lead to an accident.....a disaster!

However, possibly not on the night of the 3rd.

Just my humble opinion, based on alot less research than most here have done. Could be wrong though..

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Post by juliet 09.06.14 19:17

Didn't Dr Gaspar say Payne liked to help out at bath time? Perhaps that was what he arrived to do.
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Post by j.rob 09.06.14 20:30

juliet wrote:Didn't Dr Gaspar say Payne liked to help out at bath time? Perhaps that was what he arrived to do.
Perhaps he arrived to help Kate towel herself off, as apparently that's what she was doing when he knocked on the door.

I think bath-time was already over for the three children who were already dressed in white, looking like angels and at peace.
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Post by canada12 09.06.14 20:34

j.rob wrote:
juliet wrote:Didn't Dr Gaspar say Payne liked to help out at bath time? Perhaps that was what he arrived to do.
Perhaps he arrived to help Kate towel herself off, as apparently that's what she was doing when he knocked on the door.

I think bath-time was already over for the three children who were already dressed in white, looking like angels and at peace.
Perhaps he went to say a final goodbye to Madeleine. ?
IMO.
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Post by j.rob 09.06.14 20:36

rainbow-fairy wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:
juliet wrote:I thought Gerry was supposed to "love" the tennis photo - of a hunched, unkempt child wearng hideous cheap clothes and covered in red marks and bruises.
What are you saying? The vast majority of parents love all the photos of their children: hunched, unkempt, unwashed, covered in mud, wearing designer or hideous cheap clothes, faces smeared with ice cream etc... and what child do you know that doesn't have a bruise or two?
Had to laugh at that. I won't delete photo's of my boys however 'terrible' they are. Even blurred ones!
No wonder I get through so many memory cards big grin
Just so sad that Gerry was unable to find a genuine photo of his daughter that he loved - one from that holiday. Rather than one that looks as though it is photo-shopped. With Madeleine's head perched at an award angle on what looks like a different body. Standing completely alone. Plus her mouth also looks strange in that photo. There are dark gaps in her mouth behind the front teeth. 

It all looks so fake. So sad.
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Post by j.rob 09.06.14 20:37

canada12 wrote:
j.rob wrote:
juliet wrote:Didn't Dr Gaspar say Payne liked to help out at bath time? Perhaps that was what he arrived to do.
Perhaps he arrived to help Kate towel herself off, as apparently that's what she was doing when he knocked on the door.

I think bath-time was already over for the three children who were already dressed in white, looking like angels and at peace.
Perhaps he went to say a final goodbye to Madeleine. ?
IMO.

Yes, that seems very likely given the choice of words used.

IMO.
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Post by juliet 09.06.14 21:01

The child in the tennis photo bore almost no resemblance to the "Maddie" of the pool pic. Kate pretended Gerry loved it to cover up what a horrible photo it is, with the cheap clothes so different from those Gap and Monsoon "extravagances". (As an aside why does Kate say the top was peach coloured when it is pink?)
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Post by mt 09.06.14 21:49

Re Kay Burley's article - I read it the other day and I know not everyone will agree with me but she got a load of the main hard-hitting facts out there in a way she can't be Carter-Rucked. I have no doubt which side of the fence she firmly sits on. I've done a similar thing a few times and a few rather dim shills have agreed with me whilst some of them have seen through it. Most satisfactory.
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Post by j.rob 09.06.14 22:40

mt wrote:Re Kay Burley's article - I read it the other day and I know not everyone will agree with me but she got a load of the main hard-hitting facts out there in a way she can't be Carter-Rucked. I have no doubt which side of the fence she firmly sits on. I've done a similar thing a few times and a few rather dim shills have agreed with me whilst some of them have seen through it. Most satisfactory.
Good point...thanks for pointing that out......yes C-R have certainly kept the lid on things....so it's all about reading between the lines.

And - how much do I personally DESPISE Fartie  Cuck - entirely my own problem, I am sure. What CREEPS. 

In my opinon, obviously. I am sure many disagree.
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Post by Halfwit 09.06.14 23:11

mt wrote:Re Kay Burley's article - I read it the other day and I know not everyone will agree with me but she got a load of the main hard-hitting facts out there in a way she can't be Carter-Rucked. I have no doubt which side of the fence she firmly sits on. I've done a similar thing a few times and a few rather dim shills have agreed with me whilst some of them have seen through it. Most satisfactory.

Well done  lol4
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Post by aiyoyo 09.06.14 23:21

BTW what ever happened to the pros and paid shills?

Not a dickie bird from them since the diggings - are they still in the land of living, barely, clinging onto kate's legs for dear life in the case the tide sweeps them out to sea ?

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Post by rainbow-fairy 10.06.14 0:27

aiyoyo wrote:BTW what ever happened to the pros and paid shills?

Not a dickie bird from them since the diggings - are they still in the land of living, barely, clinging onto kate's legs for dear life in the case the tide sweeps them out to sea ?

Have no fear, aiyoyo - they are still there on twitter (maybe not as many, maybe 4xa few socks!) - though I don't see most as I've blocked all I can. Engaging with them is like an infinite circle of frustration and stress big grin

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Post by rainbow-fairy 10.06.14 0:32

mt wrote:Re Kay Burley's article - I read it the other day and I know not everyone will agree with me but she got a load of the main hard-hitting facts out there in a way she can't be Carter-Rucked. I have no doubt which side of the fence she firmly sits on. I've done a similar thing a few times and a few rather dim shills have agreed with me whilst some of them have seen through it. Most satisfactory.
I for one don't disagree with you, mt. Imo you are spot-on. 
Though like whitewash/justice, Smithman this seems to be a real polarizing one!

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Post by aiyoyo 10.06.14 0:41

rainbow-fairy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:BTW what ever happened to the pros and paid shills?

Not a dickie bird from them since the diggings - are they still in the land of living, barely, clinging onto kate's legs for dear life in the case the tide sweeps them out to sea ?

Have no fear, aiyoyo - they are still there on twitter (maybe not as many, maybe 4xa few socks!) - though I don't see most as I've blocked all I can. Engaging with them is like an infinite circle of frustration and stress big grin

TY, r-f, how's your baby ?
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Post by rainbow-fairy 10.06.14 1:06

friends you're welcome
He's really well thanks aiyoyo, and the apple of my eye (and everyone else's!). I am very lucky, the happiest baby I've ever known yes
I fear he is learning all the tricks from watching my eldest two though! big grin
Fast asleep at the moment bless him

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Post by lj 10.06.14 6:27

j.rob wrote:Contrast this with the reaction you would expect from a mother 'on holiday' who has been left to get three very tired children under four ready for bed while her husband is playing tennis at the bedtime chaos time of 7pm.

DP (head pops around patio door): 'Err Kate - can I come in?  Err - are you okay? Gerry is in the middle of a great set, so he sent me along to see if I can help you take the twins to the playground.'

Background scene: three children demanding attention. Tired, grizzly. Two fighting over a toy. One can't find a dummy/demanding more milk.

KM: (looking frazzled, exhausted and furious that hubby has, once again left her alone to do children's bedtime - the most demanding part of the day. Srabbling to get dressed and embarrassed that DP is looking into the apartment when she is only wearing a towel)

"WTF? Where the hell is Gerry? He's had all day to play sodding tennis? I can't believe that he always finds a reason to disappear just when the kids are really fractious. Plus, is that busty aerobics teacher anywhere nearby? I can't believe he invited her to our table the other evening. So bloody obvious all he wanted to do was drool at her cleavage."

"Grrrr - %$*** - tell him to come back and help with the kids before I go up there myself and he finds his head through the centre of that expensive tennis racquet!"

DP: "Errrr. Okay Kate, And by the way one of the twins is being sick. And the other has thrown his milk across the floor. And Madeleine is throwing a tantrum in the, err,  bathroom."


much more believable

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Post by plebgate 10.06.14 7:23

mt wrote:Re Kay Burley's article - I read it the other day and I know not everyone will agree with me but she got a load of the main hard-hitting facts out there in a way she can't be Carter-Rucked. I have no doubt which side of the fence she firmly sits on. I've done a similar thing a few times and a few rather dim shills have agreed with me whilst some of them have seen through it. Most satisfactory.
Maybe, maybe not, Sally Bercow was sued for an "innocent face", would the lawyers take the same view re. the "wink"?
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Post by espeland 10.06.14 8:32

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A very encouraging alternative to Kay Burley's spoutings.

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Post by gbwales 10.06.14 10:15

rainbow-fairy wrote:Have no fear, aiyoyo - they are still there on twitter (maybe not as many, maybe 4xa few socks!) - though I don't see most as I've blocked all I can. Engaging with them is like an infinite circle of frustration and stress big grin

That Harry Blackwood - @blamedandshamed - is going to be fun though isn't he... Totally kick-ass  big grin 


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“@blamedandshamed: To  #mccann sycophants who can't see truth, call me what you want, abuse away. Your opinions are irrelevant. Not a single f*** will be given” 

“@blamedandshamed: Note to all the stupid #mccann lovers who are spouting abuse. I won't debate. I'll abuse you then block you. I don't have time for idiots” 

“@blamedandshamed: Thanks to the #mccann supporters who have motivated me to make my forthcoming blog even more incisive. NO EVIDENCE OF ANY ABDUCTION. FACT.” 

“@blamedandshamed: #mccann justice seekers. I'm gobsmacked by your warm welcomes and kind words. I'm massively motivated. The truth is coming. I'm 100% certain” 


He's promising a blog on Friday I think...

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Post by rainbow-fairy 10.06.14 10:48

gbwales wrote:
rainbow-fairy wrote:Have no fear, aiyoyo - they are still there on twitter (maybe not as many, maybe 4xa few socks!) - though I don't see most as I've blocked all I can. Engaging with them is like an infinite circle of frustration and stress big grin

That Harry Blackwood - @blamedandshamed - is going to be fun though isn't he... Totally kick-ass  big grin 


“@blamedandshamed: You burgle an apartment. You're disturbed by a child. You run. FACT. You don't take the child. FACT. There were no intruders. FACT. #mccann” 

“@blamedandshamed: To  #mccann sycophants who can't see truth, call me what you want, abuse away. Your opinions are irrelevant. Not a single f*** will be given” 

“@blamedandshamed: Note to all the stupid #mccann lovers who are spouting abuse. I won't debate. I'll abuse you then block you. I don't have time for idiots” 

“@blamedandshamed: Thanks to the #mccann supporters who have motivated me to make my forthcoming blog even more incisive. NO EVIDENCE OF ANY ABDUCTION. FACT.” 

“@blamedandshamed: #mccann justice seekers. I'm gobsmacked by your warm welcomes and kind words. I'm massively motivated. The truth is coming. I'm 100% certain” 


He's promising a blog on Friday I think...
Oh yes! I've seen on my timeline this morning that he's going down a storm Wink
Blog should be interesting! yes
Do you have a page link please?

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Post by MrsC 10.06.14 10:56

Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter
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Post by espeland 10.06.14 11:20

He has a blog here I think [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]   I can't see anything McCann related though.


It's due there in a few days.

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MrsC wrote:Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter
I thought of that poster when I read the link.    He used to call him Mr. Jerry, FACT and used to aways post as WE think.  Sumat like that.

Can't recall name but was very interesting I thought.
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MrsC wrote:Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter
I thought of that poster when I read the link.    He used to call him Mr. Jerry, FACT and used to aways post as WE think.  Sumat like that.

Can't recall name but was very interesting I thought.

Wasn't it Lucian Deville or something like that?

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MrsC wrote:Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter

Lucian Deville or something?
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MrsC wrote:Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter
I thought of that poster when I read the link.    He used to call him Mr. Jerry, FACT and used to aways post as WE think.  Sumat like that.

Can't recall name but was very interesting I thought.

Wasn't it Lucian Deville or something like that?
Yes that's right.   I thought sometimes he was hilarious.
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Yeah it is Lucian Deville but the link I posted doesn't work...although Lucian has got a twitter account.
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MrsC wrote:Looking forward to reading his blog!  clapping 

Wasn't there a poster back in the days of the 3As or even the Mirror forum who used to state 'FACT' after everything they had written. It's ringing a bell somewhere. titter
I thought of that poster when I read the link.    He used to call him Mr. Jerry, FACT and used to aways post as WE think.  Sumat like that.

Can't recall name but was very interesting I thought.

Wasn't it Lucian Deville or something like that?
Yes that's right.   I thought sometimes he was hilarious.

Hehe, he used to say 'Mr Jerry and it's wife'  big grin 
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