Re: McCanns will NOT return to Portugal

by **PeterMac** 31.05.14 7:51

Rasputin wrote:LDB Im sure I read somewhere that bone marrow transfer can alter blood dramatically .

Interesting but complicated.
Red blood cells have no DNA. (Not a lot of people know that !) - because they have no nucleus.
The various types of white blood cells do, and therefore contain DNA

A blood transfusion therefore alters almost nothing, and in any event after a time the body has eliminated all the cels and replaced them with ones of its own making.

A bone marrow transplant can do various things.
The type where the entire bone marrow of the recipient is destroyed before the injection of the new replaces the DNA in the new white cells, but of course NOT in any other of the cells of the body usually screened for DNA, mouth lining, semen and so on.
The more recent type where only part of the recipient's marrow is knocked out leaves the recipient as a "Chimera" with two sets of blood DNA .
There is loads on the net about it.

by **tigger** 31.05.14 8:09

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With all proper acknowledgments !

by aiyoyo 31.05.14 8:47

They're still looking for one missing piece to complete their erm..m.......~~abduction~~ story.

AR is also looking for one missing piece (~~the body~~) to eh....challenge the story tellers in Court.

by russiandoll 31.05.14 8:58

Oh Good God, who did the Lego thing ? I almost spat out my breakfast !

by Rasputin 31.05.14 9:00

Thats a work of art Tigger. I see Kate has put a little weight on :-)....Its going to be marvelous to see them all go to pieces in the box at some stage .

by AndyB 31.05.14 9:04

Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?

by Guest 31.05.14 9:08

I had to look up who that is. Funnily enough, I thought that the one representing Kate looked like David Beckham, one of the very few footballers I've heard of!

It's Andy Redwood with some sort of detecting tool.

by Rasputin 31.05.14 9:08

AndyB wrote:Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?

I think its one of those K-tel body finders made from a hairdryer and sticky black plastic Andy ...lol Andy Redwood ...detecting tool !!!

by Guest 31.05.14 9:09

AndyB wrote:Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?

pruning the hedge... (diary)

by aiyoyo 31.05.14 9:50

AndyB wrote:Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?

Bin man? Intruder? carrying a blue bag big enough for tennis racket ?

by Journolisp 31.05.14 10:22

Don't usually post but always read this site every day and the "Lego" set has meant I've dribbled my coffee down my shirt with laughing!! Mrs

by **PeterMac** 31.05.14 11:45

aiyoyo wrote:
AndyB wrote:Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?
Bin man? Intruder? carrying a blue bag big enough for tennis racket ?

or to get the quote right - which is even more powerful in its raw form

Reply ”There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…” [sputters to a halt as he realises the full horror of what he has just said]

by figaro19 31.05.14 12:02

tigger wrote:
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Avec tous les remerciements appropriés!

magnifique quel et le prix pour la boites...20,30,40,millions d'euro.....

by margaret 31.05.14 12:39

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With all proper acknowledgments !

I love Kate's hair and face, and she's even got her pants of Ganga on. rotfl

by morse 31.05.14 13:01

That is brilliant, even has the sneer on Ks face, love the dogs, they look as though they are smiling!! What has Payne & the trimmer man got on their heads?
big grin

by Newintown 31.05.14 15:17

tigger wrote:
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With all proper acknowledgments !

On first viewing I thought the person on the bottom left hand side was a young Elvis Presley with a guitar (that was a compliment if it was supposed to be AR which I didn't realise at the time), but then I looked again it seemed to be like a flame thrower being held (one used for destroying weeds maybe on an overgrown piece of land) or an electric cutter for bushes, shrubs etc.

The other "Lego" persons and doggies are brilliant, well done PM.

by margaret 31.05.14 15:19

morse wrote:That is brilliant, even has the sneer on Ks face, love the dogs, they look as though they are smiling!! What has Payne & the trimmer man got on their heads?

Nothing morse that's just how some Lego heads are, you can put hats on those pieces. :flower:

by **PeterMac** 31.05.14 15:50

Newintown wrote:

With all proper acknowledgments !
The other "Lego" persons and doggies are brilliant, well done PM.

I plead Not Guilty, except to Plagiarism, though I did acknowledge it was not mine.

If only I could do that !

by Newintown 31.05.14 15:59

PeterMac wrote:
Newintown wrote:

With all proper acknowledgments !
The other "Lego" persons and doggies are brilliant, well done PM.
I plead Not Guilty, except to Plagiarism, though I did acknowledge it was not mine.

If only I could do that !

Whoever did it they're brilliant. Well done to them!

by stillsloppingout 31.05.14 16:14

Great Stuff ,Hopefully not the last time Gerry and Kate will be Bricking it !!! .

Ps whoever made that clearly knows there stuff .

DP the Bath tub and the kids .!!! Gerry and the bag [ not Kate !! ] Kate doing her Elvis impression . Redwood doing what he knows best acting like a statue , and by the look on his face ,it looks like he has anal*y probed Gerry with a giant food blender !!!. Which would be hurtfull and unhelpful !!!!

Good work thumbup

by ultimaThule 31.05.14 16:27

PeterMac wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
AndyB wrote:Who's the bloke in the bottom left corner with the red dungerees that looks a bit like Jermaine Jenas? And what's he carrying?
Bin man? Intruder? carrying a blue bag big enough for tennis racket ?
or to get the quote right - which is even more powerful in its raw form

Reply ”There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…” [sputters to a halt as he realises the full horror of what he has just said]

With statements such as that made by Payne, PeterM, I don't envisage that any defence counsel worthy of the name would allow or advise any of the Tapas 7 to take the stand, not even Dianne Webster whose words are less incriminating than those of her son-in-law but who may blurt out 'super(mumble)' and be asked to speak up so the jury can hear her.

Imo even if this crew were rehearsed to the nth degree, they'll all fluff their lines in the spotlight of cross examination.

by **PeterMac** 31.05.14 18:25

ultimaThule wrote:Imo even if this crew were rehearsed to the nth degree, they'll all fluff their lines in the spotlight of cross examination.

The Libel trial lot even had their lines written out either by them or for them, and STILL fluffed them.

I can understand their not getting it right on the first night, but by the time of the rogatories you would have thought the Rothley secret meeting would have sorted it out.
But apparently not.
Could it be that some of them have consciences which do not permit them to go beyond a certain point ?
Or that weighing up what they were being asked to say, they realised that "Conspiracy to Pervert" was a real possibility,
and so started to gibber and dribble at that point.

by Mirage 31.05.14 22:02

Lol. Just noticed the CATS file number - 19309 pieces. big grin

by HelenMeg 31.05.14 22:40

PeterMac wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:Imo even if this crew were rehearsed to the nth degree, they'll all fluff their lines in the spotlight of cross examination.
The Libel trial lot even had their lines written out either by them or for them, and STILL fluffed them.

I can understand their not getting it right on the first night, but by the time of the rogatories you would have thought the Rothley secret meeting would have sorted it out.
But apparently not.
Could it be that some of them have consciences which do not permit them to go beyond a certain point ?
Or that weighing up what they were being asked to say, they realised that "Conspiracy to Pervert" was a real possibility,
and so started to gibber and dribble at that point.

^{I think you're right PM.}
In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the excessive [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and discomfort^{[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]} experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time. This stress and discomfort may also arise within an individual who holds a belief and performs a contradictory action or reaction.When dissonance is present, in addition to trying to reduce it, the person will actively avoid situations and information which would likely increase the dissonance"^{I guess this explains why they avoid reconstructions, except those of a mockumentary style where they can use their scripts. I guess this explains why none of them speak except through Gerry.
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by missmar1 31.05.14 22:47

The Mccanns have travelled far and wide to give tv interviews during the last 7 years - they have sat on sofas and discussed their missing daughter over and over again and they have vowed never to give up the search for Madeleine. They have continually claimed there is no evidence that any harm has come to her, even now, with digging to commence, Gerry Mccann has stated they are still hoping for a happy outcome .

So why, would they not return to Portugal at the very time when some real and serious activity is taking place ? Possibly it could be said they would be too upset to be there while the diggers are looking for their childs body - yet they have always managed to maintain their stiff upper-lip attitude and attended many many activities over the years that has involved them talking about, and, participating in, events being held for their missing child - so why not go back this time ?

Imo they may be throwing down another gauntlet ? Remember Gerry Mccann snapping " find the body" to I think it was a reporter ? It may be that the close pal who said they would not return unless Madeleine's DNA is found, is knowingly/unknowingly passing on the gauntlet to the investigatotrs because possibly the Mccann's know their child's DNA is not going to be found during the digs ? In other words, is it another case of Gerry Mccann repeating " Find the body" ? because imo, the Mccann;s are saying no matter what the digs find, unless Madeleine's DNA is found, we will not accept she is dead. all my opinion only.

by Guest 31.05.14 22:51

Great spot Mirage! For those interested the person that creates these pics is on the controversy page on Facebook. Theres more on there if you go back a bit.

by Silverspeed 31.05.14 23:10

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Easily Erected In 30 Secs or 30 Mins.

Ha Ha Brilliant.
big grin

by Monty Heck 31.05.14 23:48

missmar1 wrote:The Mccanns have travelled far and wide to give tv interviews during the last 7 years - they have sat on sofas and discussed their missing daughter over and over again and they have vowed never to give up the search for Madeleine. They have continually claimed there is no evidence that any harm has come to her, even now, with digging to commence, Gerry Mccann has stated they are still hoping for a happy outcome .

So why, would they not return to Portugal at the very time when some real and serious activity is taking place ? Possibly it could be said they would be too upset to be there while the diggere looking for their childs body - yet they have always managed to maintain their stiff upper-lip attitude and attended many many activities over the years that has involved them talking about, and, participating in, events being held for their missing child - so why not go back this time ?

Imo they may be throwing down another gauntlet ? Remember Gerry Mccann snapping " find the body" to I think it was a reporter ? It may be that the close pal who said they would not return unless Madeleine's DNA is found, is knowingly/unknowingly passing on the gauntlet to the investigatotrs because possibly the Mccann's know their child's DNA is not going to be found during the digs ? In other words, is it another case of Gerry Mccann repeating " Find the body" ? because imo, the Mccann;s are saying no matter what the digs find, unless Madeleine's DNA is found, we will not accept she is dead. all my opinion only.

Good question. Given that they were so heavily involved with organised prayer/vigil servies in PDL church it would not be unexpected that they would wish to return and offer prayers or light candles for their child while these investigations were ongoing. Having endured the grief of not knowing whether their child is dead or alive for the past 7 years now, would it really add to the agony to be there at the location if anything were found relating to her disappearance? If remains were uncovered, would it not be a final betrayal of this child to be absent once again. Not to "be there" for her when she disappeared is one thing but to decide not to be there if/when found is difficult to comprehend. Yes, of course it would be distressing, painful for any parent to endure but what about the child, life taken then hidden away for years until found by complete strangers and left in their hands. This scenario is beyond sad and how they could opt not to be there, not one or the other, unfathomable.

by jeanmonroe 01.06.14 0:29

Even if a body is discovered, all it proves is that she is dead, not WHO 'killed' her.

ALL the T9 still absolutely, firmly, 'in the frame'

by rainbow-fairy 01.06.14 1:21

Bellisa wrote:Great spot Mirage! For those interested the person that creates these pics is on the controversy page on Facebook. Theres more on there if you go back a bit.

Yes his pics have always been spot-on big grin

Sometimes a humourous montage says more than 500 words could yes

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