Digging to start next week - UPDATE... starting today 2/6/14

sallypelt wrote:This is how Corrieo da Manha is reporting the dig, this morning:



Searches for Maddie starts tomorrow


Dogs and Englishmen will use probes to find the dead body of Maddie in Praia da Luz
Seven years after Madeleine McCann disappeared from the resort of Praia da Luz , Lagos , the British police returned to search the ground . Now look for the corpse of the English child , after research have changed course : this time , argue that Maddie was killed the night she disappeared in 2007 , and that the body will have been hiding in the vicinity of the dwelling where vacationed with family .

The motive of the crime was a failed robbery. Something went wrong , defend the English, who even believe that the girl will awake and crying when he saw a stranger .

Afraid that the screams alerted family members - who dined less than 500 meters - the suspect would have killed Maddie . And later removed the body from the house , to hide in terrain that exist nearby village .

Scotland Yard should begin excavations tomorrow being closely monitored by the Judicial Police . The aim is to check the entire area , to find any trace to confirm the thesis of homicide .

The English arrived at the weekend and will now only consider the land and undertake the delimitation of the area .

Also according to the Morning Post found both probes that will be used as the dogs are English . The animals have been used in other similar situations - and Scotland Yard ensures that succeed .

Recall also that the same dogs were used at the beginning of the investigation , having detected cadaver odor in the trunk of the rented by the parents of Madeleine McCann car. It was in fact based on that evidence that the Portuguese authorities advanced to the constitution of Kate and Gerry as defendants , claiming that they had accidentally killed the little Madeleine .


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PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

sallypelt wrote:

russiandoll wrote:Perhaps worth a reminder of GA's words in an interview and whether they correspond to the current search sites :

 That cliff area is an important zone, several people talked about it, there were many important events that took place there, events that people saw and suspected, in the golf course area, in the path to the geodesic mark, all in that area. Therefore, it is an area where it is worthwhile to make a search again. But to be searched in the scope of an investigation that is reopened.

HC: Curiously, the whole area was thoroughly examined, that should be said.

GA: As well, yes.

HC: The whole area was examined, the whole area was acquired, the whole area was divided…

GA: There is an important detail…

HC: You do not have access to that area, because today you can see that certain parts are private, curiously, almost in the path that goes to the cliff’s escarpment.

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GA: There is an important aspect and that is the diary of Mrs Kate McCann. There are some who have the opinion the diary was written to be read. At a certain point in time, following the dates given there just a few days after the disappearance, Mrs. Kate McCann says that she is running, doing her jogging – the daughter is missing and she is doing her training – and in there, in that plateau that we are seeing right now, she said that she was climbing it when she saw a number of journalists, of people and that she begun suspecting that the body of her daughter had been found. That is in her diary. She points to that area

This is all so interesting. I am now certain that the photograph I posted a few post up , shows the area being searched. It's not marked on the photograph, and only a small part has been captured on the photograph, but the area of interest is middle top of the pic.

ShuBob wrote:Call me naive but I don't believe the PJ and Met are doing all this just for show.

Praia wrote:I just called a close friend in Luz who has a business there and they are so angry. Clients have been cancelling rentals for this Summer even up to September because of all the negative media coverage. 
How can one family cause so much grief for so many innocent people???

These days we always park down from the search area and when we were walking beside the cordoned off area last week I thought to myself well that is one area that would have been impossible to hide the signs of digging and hiding of evidence.

I am 90% sure Madeleine's body was hidden outside the village but still close by.

stillsloppingout wrote:

PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

One of the better descriptions of Kate , and the Brighton C**K.  

HelenMeg wrote:

kevmack wrote:

sallypelt wrote:I try not to get into debates about "what ifs", but I am going to put my head on the block on this rare occasion, as there's been something niggling me for quite a few months, and this has to do with David Payne. I still find it strange that David and Fiona weren't in the Crimewatch reconstruction. Add this to the fact that David Payne and Fiona Payne registered a new company, back in November? last year. This is the first time that David and Fiona Payne have been directors of any company. Does anyone else find the odd? Have the Payne's cracked? All speculation on my part.

I agree Sally, it struck me immediately that the Payne's had disappeared from the narrative, along with D Webster, and my first thought was that perhaps David Payne had finally talked about the issues he alluded to in his rogatory interview about things that were perhaps best left to another forum (or words to that effect) 

David Payne was indeed up to his neck in it, with his "magical visit" that lasted anywhere between 30 secs and 30 mins and I always felt that Fiona was off message when she talked about how she found it strange that Kate kept putting her fingers  underneath the twins noses, almost to check if they were breathing.

I think that the Paynes are far stronger characters than any of the rest of the tapas group, and whereas Jane, Russell, Matthew and Rachael, seemed almost to be in fear or cowed by Gerry, I don't think David and Fiona were imo and whilst we may always have imagined that Jane or Russell would be the weakest link, it is very possible that the stronger characters are the ones most likely to put an end to this sorry saga imo

Yes, tend to agree with your thinking about the stronger ones being perhaps more likely to stop this charade.
My thinking is that those of them who are less involved and played a lesser role may not be as likely to break as those who were more significantly involved.  These who played a bigger role may now be getting very worried and I think that those who feel the greater stress are more inclined to break.
Or perhaps before 'breaking' they would talk to other members  and say ' we are going to talk ... you have the chance to join us or not..'

Popcorn wrote:

ShuBob wrote:Call me naive but I don't believe the PJ and Met are doing all this just for show.

I've never found you naive, Shubob. Not when we used to discuss this case so long ago on Digital Spy, and not now.

Praia wrote:I just spoke to a Portuguese friend who has a business in Luz and she was tearful and angry. The village has tried so hard over the last 7 years to try and rebuild it's previous, positive reputation as a family destination. She said they may as well give in and move their family elsewhere even though she grew up in Luz.

sofieellis wrote:

PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

Or a toothbrush.

dantezebu wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:

kevmack wrote:

sallypelt wrote:I try not to get into debates about "what ifs", but I am going to put my head on the block on this rare occasion, as there's been something niggling me for quite a few months, and this has to do with David Payne. I still find it strange that David and Fiona weren't in the Crimewatch reconstruction. Add this to the fact that David Payne and Fiona Payne registered a new company, back in November? last year. This is the first time that David and Fiona Payne have been directors of any company. Does anyone else find the odd? Have the Payne's cracked? All speculation on my part.

I agree Sally, it struck me immediately that the Payne's had disappeared from the narrative, along with D Webster, and my first thought was that perhaps David Payne had finally talked about the issues he alluded to in his rogatory interview about things that were perhaps best left to another forum (or words to that effect) 

David Payne was indeed up to his neck in it, with his "magical visit" that lasted anywhere between 30 secs and 30 mins and I always felt that Fiona was off message when she talked about how she found it strange that Kate kept putting her fingers  underneath the twins noses, almost to check if they were breathing.

I think that the Paynes are far stronger characters than any of the rest of the tapas group, and whereas Jane, Russell, Matthew and Rachael, seemed almost to be in fear or cowed by Gerry, I don't think David and Fiona were imo and whilst we may always have imagined that Jane or Russell would be the weakest link, it is very possible that the stronger characters are the ones most likely to put an end to this sorry saga imo

Yes, tend to agree with your thinking about the stronger ones being perhaps more likely to stop this charade.
My thinking is that those of them who are less involved and played a lesser role may not be as likely to break as those who were more significantly involved.  These who played a bigger role may now be getting very worried and I think that those who feel the greater stress are more inclined to break.
Or perhaps before 'breaking' they would talk to other members  and say ' we are going to talk ... you have the chance to join us or not..'

If there was one member of the T9 that had more to gain than lose from the ending of this sorry saga, it has to be David Payne.
Provided that he was not responsible in anyway for Madeleines demise that is.
I think GA has played a blinder by pointing the finger in that direction. With all the innuendoes of liking to bathe little girls and promoting the Gaspar's statements Payne has a choice between living with this cloud over his head for the rest of his life or speaking about what he knows. And he knows something, he told us so.
So if there has been one person to break the pact I agree it must be him.

Praia wrote:IIRC Silvia Baptista said it was the Paynes who were hysterical not the McCanns on the night of 3 May.

The fact they were not named on Crimewatch was a huge clue but then I think of Fiona Payne in Lisbon at court with Ms Healy. God FP loves herself, she is so bloody smug. The Paynes also stayed in OC for longer than the other "friends".

ShuBob wrote:

Popcorn wrote:

ShuBob wrote:Call me naive but I don't believe the PJ and Met are doing all this just for show.

I've never found you naive, Shubob. Not when we used to discuss this case so long ago on Digital Spy, and not now.

  

Thanks Popcorn   

I wonder if there's a thread on DS discussing the latest activity. I just don't understand that forum. They allow all sorts of discussion but mention "McCann" and the padlock is out