CMTV / Goncalo Amaral
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CMTV / Goncalo Amaral
Transcription from his CMTV interview a few weeks back.
Too long to copy and paste. Very interesting read though.
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This CMTV programme serves as further proof that in the event the McCanns, and/or any of the Tapas 7, are brought to account in law for offences relating to the disappearance of Madeleine Beth McCann it is not anticipated that any resultant trial(s) will be held in Portugal.
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Moreover, Prof. Paulo Sargento believes there is only one way to understand Scotland Yard‘s on-going shenanigans – namely by assuming “they must be under the orders of someone” – suggesting perhaps “Operation Grange” is nothing but a reputation management exercise on behalf of the McCanns’.
This is otherwise an opinion held by bloggers, commentators and criminal profilers world-wide “in spite of the covert efforts” (if any!) of Burson Marsteller – the reputation management company directed by Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesperson and David Cameron‘s party candidate in the forthcoming UKGB general elections.”
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The method used to determine the window of opportunity must be similar to ANACAPA as used by SY?
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I must point out, that we only worked with timelines that coincided – for we did not have access then to information from the police files, nor did we know the timeline drafted by Russell O’Brien (available much later).
However, what is interesting – even accepting that we had less timelines to work with – is that when we applied the theorem of conditioned probability to events, the visits and their timings – how long people said they had taken to do their checkings – we reached the conclusion there was no window of opportunity!
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Here is the Wiki entry on Burston Marsteller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burson-Marsteller
and more : http://www.gorkana.com/news/all/people-news/clarence-mitchell-joins-burson-marsteller-uk-2/
Interesting, September 2011 - that is not long after the SY review started.
For some reason the links don't come up red and don't in fact link. Don't know why.
Moreover, Prof. Paulo Sargento believes there is only one way to understand Scotland Yard‘s on-going shenanigans – namely by assuming “they must be under the orders of someone” – suggesting perhaps “Operation Grange” is nothing but a reputation management exercise on behalf of the McCanns’.
This is otherwise an opinion held by bloggers, commentators and criminal profilers world-wide “in spite of the covert efforts” (if any!) of Burson Marsteller – the reputation management company directed by Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesperson and David Cameron‘s party candidate in the forthcoming UKGB general elections.”
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The method used to determine the window of opportunity must be similar to ANACAPA as used by SY?
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I must point out, that we only worked with timelines that coincided – for we did not have access then to information from the police files, nor did we know the timeline drafted by Russell O’Brien (available much later).
However, what is interesting – even accepting that we had less timelines to work with – is that when we applied the theorem of conditioned probability to events, the visits and their timings – how long people said they had taken to do their checkings – we reached the conclusion there was no window of opportunity!
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Here is the Wiki entry on Burston Marsteller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burson-Marsteller
and more : http://www.gorkana.com/news/all/people-news/clarence-mitchell-joins-burson-marsteller-uk-2/
Interesting, September 2011 - that is not long after the SY review started.
For some reason the links don't come up red and don't in fact link. Don't know why.
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Here's hoping that the hairs can now be better analysed than they could in 2007!
It could put an end to all the abduction theories once and for all.
It could put an end to all the abduction theories once and for all.
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I hope that is posted on line to ALL platforms asap .
PS two things that stand out . The fact that they have managed there image , so the sheer weight of there legal team crushed all before them initially . that has now been overtaken by the power of there " celebrity " .
Like Ian Watkins . because he was a "star" the Police forces of Yorkshire , Wales etc ignored serious complaints from his ex partner .
So SY are not only working to order they are bowing to there celebrity .
PPS another abduction case in the USA once again taken by a close family member .
As he [ GA ] states ,its nearly always the family or friends who abduct [ many years ago round the corner from myself a ten year old was taken and killed by the man across the road .] . So on that basis lets assume that Gerry and Kate are innocent , why do they not bring David Payne in for questioning ?
Discuss ? .
PS two things that stand out . The fact that they have managed there image , so the sheer weight of there legal team crushed all before them initially . that has now been overtaken by the power of there " celebrity " .
Like Ian Watkins . because he was a "star" the Police forces of Yorkshire , Wales etc ignored serious complaints from his ex partner .
So SY are not only working to order they are bowing to there celebrity .
PPS another abduction case in the USA once again taken by a close family member .
As he [ GA ] states ,its nearly always the family or friends who abduct [ many years ago round the corner from myself a ten year old was taken and killed by the man across the road .] . So on that basis lets assume that Gerry and Kate are innocent , why do they not bring David Payne in for questioning ?
Discuss ? .
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Ian Watkins is now serving a 29 year prison sentence. What's to discuss? :)
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ultimaThule wrote:This CMTV programme serves as further proof that in the event the McCanns, and/or any of the Tapas 7, are brought to account in law for offences relating to the disappearance of Madeleine Beth McCann it is not anticipated that any resultant trial(s) will be held in Portugal.
Can you explain more ultimaThule. I`m not sure if sub judice applies in Portugal. If it does then this programme should not have been aired. Are you saying that because the case has been publicly aired it must mean that the authorities have no intention of bringing it to court?
And regarding the libel trial, if there is sub judice, it must mean that a resolution has occurred there otherwise GA would not have been able to talk about the case.
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Re Watkins It took them Five years to take the complaints seriously .whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:stillsloppingout wrote:I hope that is posted on line to ALL platforms asap .
PS two things that stand out . The fact that they have managed there image , so the sheer weight of there legal team crushed all before them initially . that has now been overtaken by the power of there " celebrity " .
Like Ian Watkins . because he was a "star" the Police forces of Yorkshire , Wales etc ignored serious complaints from his ex partner .
So SY are not only working to order they are bowing to there celebrity .
PPS another abduction case in the USA once again taken by a close family member .
As he [ GA ] states ,its nearly always the family or friends who abduct [ many years ago round the corner from myself a ten year old was taken and killed by the man across the road .] . So on that basis lets assume that Gerry and Kate are innocent , why do they not bring David Payne in for questioning ?
Discuss ? .
Ian Watkins is now serving a 29 year prison sentence. What's to discuss? :)
My point is referring to , why do they not arrest David Payne ? based on the alleged Gaspar statements , his alleged being known to social services ? Bathing third party kids ? . Maybe he acted alone, [ or along with ANother ] he went into the appartment , and he has covered his tracks . unlikely but why has it not been tested . Get him in and the cards would all fall down sharpish
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Amaral:David Payne was seen on McCann's balcony at 7pm by Mrs Fenn.
hmmm.
hmmm.
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There's definitely a different justice system for those with celebrity, top notch lawyers and money. That's what this case has been about from the beginning.
DCI Redwood said the Tapas 9 are not suspects and are not being questioned and imo I don't think he'd say otherwise publicly. But if the Tapas 9 really haven't been questioned behind the scenes that would be incredible. Payne is a mystery within a mystery. He was the one who shooed away the social worker who thought he was familiar. He was the one who said they, the Tapas 9, have a 'pact'. Payne wasn't investigated and eliminated after the Gaspars made statements two weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, in which they expressed concern about his behaviour. For months afterwards, British police withheld the Gaspar statements from the PJ. Payne and his wife were completely airbrushed from the Crimewatch reconstruction though he was the last person, apart from the McCanns, to see Madeleine alive.
Scotland Yard had to get rid of the Tannerman sighting because it was bogus. Abduction within that timeframe was physically impossible even to amateur eyes. DCI Redwood is not laying any blame at Jane Tanner's door either. He says Tannerman existed and has been traced and he's an innocent father who was taking his daughter home from the crèche. If that is true Tannerman would've been walking in the opposite direction. In late 2007, months after Madeleine's disappearance, and to much media fanfare, Jane Tanner claimed that advanced cognitive training had enabled her to morph Bundleman (her original sighting of an egg-head man with a bundle) into Tannerman. Thanks to cognitive training she claimed she was suddenly able to remember the man's hair, shoes, clothes and gait. And the' bundle' became a bare-footed child wearing 'pinky aspect' pyjamas, with frills, identical to Madeleine. Tanner was even able to recall what 'a bad father' the man was - BUT, apparently, the cognitive therapy didn't enable her to recall her left from her right. What a crock!
The media have failed dismally imo, they could/must have worked out that it didn't happen as told by the Tapas 9. instead they promoted the manufactured celebrity victim image at every opportunity, going along with the official McCann version for seven years at the expense of the child.
DCI Redwood said the Tapas 9 are not suspects and are not being questioned and imo I don't think he'd say otherwise publicly. But if the Tapas 9 really haven't been questioned behind the scenes that would be incredible. Payne is a mystery within a mystery. He was the one who shooed away the social worker who thought he was familiar. He was the one who said they, the Tapas 9, have a 'pact'. Payne wasn't investigated and eliminated after the Gaspars made statements two weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, in which they expressed concern about his behaviour. For months afterwards, British police withheld the Gaspar statements from the PJ. Payne and his wife were completely airbrushed from the Crimewatch reconstruction though he was the last person, apart from the McCanns, to see Madeleine alive.
Scotland Yard had to get rid of the Tannerman sighting because it was bogus. Abduction within that timeframe was physically impossible even to amateur eyes. DCI Redwood is not laying any blame at Jane Tanner's door either. He says Tannerman existed and has been traced and he's an innocent father who was taking his daughter home from the crèche. If that is true Tannerman would've been walking in the opposite direction. In late 2007, months after Madeleine's disappearance, and to much media fanfare, Jane Tanner claimed that advanced cognitive training had enabled her to morph Bundleman (her original sighting of an egg-head man with a bundle) into Tannerman. Thanks to cognitive training she claimed she was suddenly able to remember the man's hair, shoes, clothes and gait. And the' bundle' became a bare-footed child wearing 'pinky aspect' pyjamas, with frills, identical to Madeleine. Tanner was even able to recall what 'a bad father' the man was - BUT, apparently, the cognitive therapy didn't enable her to recall her left from her right. What a crock!
The media have failed dismally imo, they could/must have worked out that it didn't happen as told by the Tapas 9. instead they promoted the manufactured celebrity victim image at every opportunity, going along with the official McCann version for seven years at the expense of the child.
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