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Joana Morais: CMTV debate on Operation Grange's “new suspect”

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Joana Morais: CMTV debate on Operation Grange's “new suspect”

Post by Get'emGonçalo on 15.03.17 14:15

by Joana Morais   2 hrs ago



Police searches Portuguese man
Maddie Case: New Suspect
Former employee was questioned by PJ years ago

Short debate on Operation Grange's “new suspect”. Rua Segura is a daily TV show broadcast by CMTV, presented by Sara Carrilho, where criminal and current issues are debated and analysed. On this episode the program had as guests Carlos Anjos, former PJ inspector and former head of the Criminal Investigation Officers' Union and Rui Pereira, former Minister of Internal Affairs.

Sara Carrilho - Scotland Yard is searching for a former Ocean Club worker, the tourist resort in Praia da Luz from where Madeleine McCann disappeared in May 2007. The British authorities wish to question this man who they believe may provide for new leads concerning the disappearance.

News segment (unknown voice over) - After nine years there's a new suspect in the Maddie McCann case. This time, the line of enquiry of the British authorities pursues a former employee of the Ocean Club, the resort in Praia da luz, in the Algarve, where the English family were holidaying when Maddie disappeared in 2007. Scotland Yard wants to question again the former worker who may be of Portuguese nationality and hasn't yet been located. However, this man had already been questioned by the Judiciary Police (PJ) in 2007, this, because the man in question took part in a burglary in the ocean Club at the lunch time, on the same day that Madeleine disappeared. Even though this man is not being investigated as the abductor he may provide new leads concerning this case. The investigation that would have ended in April will be extended until September. The Sun tabloid advanced that for the investigation of the British authorities to continue a new fund of 96 thousand euros was granted. This new lead is considered to be the last opportunity in the investigation to find Maddie McCann, an investigation of the British authorities that has been ongoing for the past nine years (Op. Grange started in 2011), whose costs have surpassed 14 million euros.

Sara Carrilho - Carlos Anjos, this may be the last opportunity to do something in this investigation opened by the English authorities. Yet this man, this former worker the British police are seeking now had already been questioned in 2007.

Carlos Anjos - What new lead, opportunity? We are 10 million citizens, they have plenty of suspects to find here in Portugal, this is only just one more. I'm not even going to say that this is playing with the investigation, it's just shocking. At the time the police identified a series of people, over two dozen, to establish why they were there and this man was one of them. People that didn't have to be in there, that weren't from that area, or didn't live there and this was done using various techniques, there was a wide-sweeping search of cell phones of people that were in that area, everything was tried, then the police arrived to those individuals. This man worked at the Ocean Club, it is said (referring the news segment) that it's not known whether he is Portuguese or not, actually he is Portuguese, and it is not true either that he has vanished, he might not have a fixed address because he might be without a home, given the miserable life that he has. This man committed a crime of burglary in the morning, close to noon, at a time the child was in the beach with the mother, and the father. The disappearance takes place in the night, when the parents were, excuse my expression, soaking at the table, emptying bottles of wine. So, they want to connect a man who burgled a handful of things from a bedroom, a theft of opportunity since the tourists had left the door unlocked, if not mistaken German tourists, when they were all in the beach - any one of us was lucky to not have been there that day, in the Ocean Club, otherwise Scotland Yard would easily, just because we had red socks or something equally absurd, constitute us as arguidos and make us suspects of the death. This investigation is a tragedy, is a bottomless bag (endless supply), and it's a tragedy. It's a tragedy that we don't know what happened to Maddie, but above all is the careless way they say they have a new suspect. But what new suspect? The man as already been heard, he has already explained...

Sara Carrilho - What is certain is that vast amounts of money are given to this investigation.

Carlos Anjos - ... Worse than that, it is already known where he was at the time of the crime. That is, even though he committed the burglary, he was eliminated because at that time - this is something that I don't understand, I don't understand this investigation, it has nothing to do with a criminal investigation, but what should be considered is the time frame. The last time Maddie McCann was seen alive was at 17:30, that's the hour she leaves the children's playground area and returns home with her mother, from then on she never appears. Later the alert is given by the mother upon returning to the apartment, where she doesn't find the child, roughly about 10:30 at night, 22:30. So, the time period in which the crime occurs, what happened exactly we don't know but whatever happened took place between 17:30 and 22:30, the events took place during this time frame of five hours. At that time the man was somewhere else, actually far away from there. They cannot justify, that just because the man committed a crime of burglary at noon and since they don't have anyone else the guy of the noon robbery will do, this is wanting to place the suspect at the crime scene, this is wanting to forcefully place the blame. I just don't understand this investigation... What is certain is that this is a horn of plenty, where several millions have already been spent, this latest 96.000 euros will no doubt allow for another team of brilliant investigators to be lodged at a 5 star hotel because there's money to pay for that, and when this man is discarded... The PJ investigation spoke of three dead men, and all those were investigated, so there are no more dead men left to be accused as suspects because those would be the ideal suspects since they cannot defend themselves. Now, this man will surely give the same explanations he gave in the process (case files), that are already there in fact. Curiously, up to today, Scotland Yard was unable to identify a single suspect that hadn't been already identified by the PJ, they look at the process and likely say, we've already spoken with this one, next one, and so on. From the perspective of a criminal investigation this reveals an extreme ineptitude, even intellectually. The crime that man committed was at noon, the other was at night time, it doesn't matter, anything goes. This is playing with people's feelings.

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Broadcast by CMTV, Rua Segura Se.17 EP.52, March 15, 2017

https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/cmtv-debate-on-operation-granges-new.html
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Re: Joana Morais: CMTV debate on Operation Grange's “new suspect”

Post by jeanmonroe on 15.03.17 14:45

".............in this investigation opened by the English authorities. Yet this man, this former worker the British police are seeking now had already been questioned in 2007."

"I'm not even going to say that this is playing with the investigation, it's just shocking. "
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"The disappearance takes place in the night, when the parents were, excuse my expression, soaking at the table, emptying bottles of wine."
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"..........any one of us was LUCKY to NOT HAVE BEEN THERE THAT DAY, in the Ocean Club, OTHERWISE Scotland Yard would easily, just because we had red socks or something equally absurd, constitute us as arguidos and make us suspects of the death."
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" Worse than that, it is already known where he was at the time of the crime. That is, even though he committed the burglary, he was eliminated because at that time - this is something that I don't understand, I don't understand this investigation, it has nothing to do with a criminal investigation,....."

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"............since they don't have anyone else the guy of the noon robbery will do, this is wanting to place the suspect at the crime scene, this is wanting to forcefully place the blame. I just don't understand this investigation..."
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"What is certain is that this is a horn of plenty, where several millions have already been spent, this latest 96.000 euros will no doubt allow for another team of brilliant investigators to be lodged at a 5 star hotel because there's money to pay for that, and when this man is discarded..."
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"The PJ investigation spoke of three dead men, and all those were investigated, so there are no more dead men left to be accused as suspects because those would be the ideal suspects since they cannot defend themselves. Now, this man will surely give the same explanations he gave in the process (case files), that are already there in fact. Curiously, up to today, Scotland Yard was unable to identify a single suspect that hadn't been already identified by the PJ, they look at the process and likely say, we've already spoken with this one, next one, and so on. From the perspective of a criminal investigation this reveals an extreme ineptitude, even intellectually."
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"it doesn't matter, anything goes."

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OH dear!

Good luck DCI Wally, when you go to Portugal.!

I even think you and your team of brilliant investigators will be able to 'room service' the local area 'paella', or 'pizza', a 'fave' of your predecessor and his team of brilliant investigators, from your 5 star hotel.

If in 'doubt',

"Ask Andy, Nic"
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"The disappearance takes place in the night, when the parents were, excuse my expression, soaking at the table, emptying bottles of wine."

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 15.03.17 14:48

@jeanmonroe wrote:OH dear!

Good luck DCI Wally, when you go to Portugal.!

Or as someone recently referred to her as - Nickerless !
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Post by Keitei on 15.03.17 14:59

I only have one thing to say and that is, "I hope Scotland Yard and the puppet master are looking in on this farce. Disgraceful!"

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Re: Joana Morais: CMTV debate on Operation Grange's “new suspect”

Post by jeanmonroe on 15.03.17 15:03

PDL 'resident' (2014)............ "The MET always turns up, when the sun starts to shine".

However, 'this year' they will be 'there' a tad 'later'!

That's because SY/MET/OG are, as we speak, not actually 'hunting/searching' for a 'missing' child, but ARE 'arranging/finalizing' a 'press conference', about the 'case', to be 'broadcast' on 3rd May 2017.

("one has to have the right colour of nail polish before going on TV, doesn't one?")

They 'assume', presumeably, that the 'missing' child will NOT suddenly 'appear/re-appear' before that date.

BUT, as the man said, "it doesn't matter, anything goes."
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My 'earlier' post in February

WHY will there even BE a tenth year 'anniversary', of a 'missing' child?

Does 'someone' KNOW, for definite, the 'missing' child will NOT, erm, 'be found' by the date of a 'tenth year anniversary'?

The 'world's best police force, SY' (ok, ok, 'self proclaimed') 'appear' to be 'buying into that' don't they, by 'organising', two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters, FUTURE 'press and broadcasting' releases for the ''ten year anniversary' of a 'missing' child, according to CM.

NOW, WHY would SY NOT 'think' the 'missing' child will be 'found', 'alive and unharmed', by 3rd May 2017?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 15.03.17 15:51

Q) "Where's Wally?"

A) "In a 5 star hotel, in Portugal"

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Post by sandancer on 15.03.17 19:13

"From the perspective of a criminal investigation​ this reveals an extreme ineptitude , even intellectually​ " 

Does intellect even come into anything​ O.G has done so far ?

I wonder what the U.K equivalent of " bungling , sardine munchers " the​ " reporters​ and journalists " in our " wonderful​ " msm could come up with ? 

This​ man they've looking​ for isn't​ called " Patsy " by any chance is he ?      spin

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Post by Mirage on 15.03.17 19:55

If I worked on Operation Grange and read the above I would curl up and die of shame.

How these people face their families, I cannot comprehend. It must be like people who pretend they have a job and ride round on the tube all day.

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Post by plebgate on 15.03.17 20:03

snipped from OP:

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Carlos Anjos - ... Worse than that, it is already known where he was at the time of the crime. That is, even though he committed the burglary, he was eliminated because at that time - this is something that I don't understand, I don't understand this investigation, it has nothing to do with a criminal investigation, ...."

So this man was already eliminated as it looks as though he had an alibi - yet there is an international manhunt on for him -Why?

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Post by Phoebe on 15.03.17 20:34

So they're back to "botched burglary" again. This is beyond ridiculous. The burglar entered, found the body which had lain in situ behind the sofa long enough for cadaver odour to develop. Being the tidy sort he lay it in the wardrobe on Kate's clothes and a red T shirt. Deciding that wasn't tidy enough, he moved it to the patio and then the garden.Then he decided, "What the hell, I'll take it away with me" - as you do!! If the Met keep this nonsense up they'll be more of a laughing stock than Inspector Clouseau ever was.
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Post by princess_leia on 16.03.17 10:25

You know what really irks me...the UK media always refer to the PJ botched investigation. So far, I believe it's £11 million that's been spent by the investigation in this country, yet they have found nothing, absolutely nothing to prove that she was abducted. Always going after someone who has already been ruled out by the PJ. 
It's so insulting, I'm embarrassed for our country, what utter garbage! 

And this is one of the reasons I feel OG is going nowhere, can you imagine the outrage in the UK, the world even...we will be ridiculed. Sadly, I think saving face is more important to our establishment than the life of a child, and for that reason alone the McCs will never face justice.

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Post by plebgate on 16.03.17 17:43

Does anyone know how many layers of the onion have been peeled back to get to this last roll of the dice?

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Post by Mirage on 16.03.17 18:06

@plebgate wrote:Does anyone know how many layers of the onion have been peeled back to get to this last roll of the dice?
AND drawn everything back to zero.

... by which DCI Redwood meant he had to change the whole timeline so the "abduction" had time to happen. Whereas before, as Kate admitted during a very strange interview with Jon Corner, "Yeah, you're  right. There was only a small window of opportunity."

DCI REDWOOD:
"Primarily what we sought to do from the beginning is to try and draw everything back to – to zero, if you like, try and sort of take everything back to the beginning – and then  re-analyse and re-assess everything – accepting nothing."
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Yeah. Then after that load of tripe, he retired. spin

ETA: He sounds like the tapas lot ... "sort of" "back to - to". Must be catching!

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