Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

by Brock_and_Roll 08.05.14 15:11

Everyone (other than the lawyers) wants some kind of closure to this case however I feel that the optimism of many here brought about by the most recent developments are perhaps premature.

It is extremely unlikely that a body or any other buried object will be recovered from these locations that are so central to PDL:

1) the areas are far too public

2) the ground is far too hard in the inland areas and even if the ground had been softened by recent rain, there would have been obvious signs of disturbance.

3) In the case of the beach, this is the atlantic coast so nothing is likely to remained shallow buried for too long.

As such I think the most likely outcome is that these searches will prove nothing and the presence of the British press pack will drive an even bigger wedge between the Portugese and British police. I hope I am wrong.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 08.05.14 15:18

Brock_and_Roll wrote:Everyone (other than the lawyers) wants some kind of closure to this case however I feel that the optimism of many here brought about by the most recent developments are perhaps premature.

It is extremely unlikely that a body or any other buried object will be recovered from these locations that are so central to PDL:

1) the areas are far too public

2) the ground is far too hard in the inland areas and even if the ground had been softened by recent rain, there would have been obvious signs of disturbance.

3) In the case of the beach, this is the atlantic coast so nothing is likely to remained shallow buried for too long.

As such I think the most likely outcome is that these searches will prove nothing and the presence of the British press pack will drive an even bigger wedge between the Portugese and British police. I hope I am wrong.

Welcome to the forum Brock_and_Roll!

I agree with you on the three locations most prominently reported in the media. Those places are unlikely burial sites, and would have been next to impossible to dig at the time, and now.

But other reports have mentioned the hillside to the east of PdL, a location I have long suspected.

And there may be other locations, the reported locations being a misdirection.

by Sceptic 08.05.14 15:19

Kay Burley on Sky news just now - Read out the Mccanns statement re press intrusion this week potentially ruining investigation blah blah blah

Kays response was she would be interested in hearing from you and you can email her direct your thoughts regarding the mccanns not being happy about the media being in Portugal at this time considering how supportive the media have been to them in the past.

I think times are changing

by MRNOODLES 08.05.14 15:22

I bet 'pot calling the kettle black' crops up a few times.

by jozi 08.05.14 15:22

Brock_and_Roll wrote:Everyone (other than the lawyers) wants some kind of closure to this case however I feel that the optimism of many here brought about by the most recent developments are perhaps premature.

It is extremely unlikely that a body or any other buried object will be recovered from these locations that are so central to PDL:

1) the areas are far too public

2) the ground is far too hard in the inland areas and even if the ground had been softened by recent rain, there would have been obvious signs of disturbance.

3) In the case of the beach, this is the atlantic coast so nothing is likely to remained shallow buried for too long.

As such I think the most likely outcome is that these searches will prove nothing and the presence of the British press pack will drive an even bigger wedge between the Portugese and British police. I hope I am wrong.

I hope you are wrong too as it would be an awful waste of time energy and money....We just have to wait and see what happens but I'm hoping this is the best blindside ever by the Met !!!

Anything else, will not do I'm afraid.......

by tasprin 08.05.14 15:23

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7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.

by jeanmonroe 08.05.14 15:26

I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell/prove to me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.

by Clocker 08.05.14 15:30

tasprin wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.

Sorry, should have added that I have high lighted the funny part in your response.

by paradigm67 08.05.14 15:37

tasprin wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.

Isn't the possible flipside to that statement, that they know where the police 'digs' are taking place and they know full well that its fruitless as nothing will be found. They can use that as vindication of their 'innocence' and will no doubt use it as such. Could just as easily be a sham move by the met to show that they have possibly thought of another reason rather than abduction for the girls disappearance and have therefore searched as such but at the end of the day they know they'll find nothing and, when they dont, use that as leverage to push forward with the fishing game they have played for years. Hope not, but if after all these years the met admit to something different then its going to look bad on them, as they have discounted all the PJ evidence from the start. Where would that leave them? Having to answer to the public for a multi million pound investigation that 10s of thousands of people knew to be a sham from the off.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 08.05.14 15:40

paradigm67 wrote:
Isn't the possible flipside to that statement, that they know where the police 'digs' are taking place and they know full well that its fruitless as nothing will be found. They can use that as vindication of their 'innocence' and will no doubt use it as such. Could just as easily be a sham move by the met to show that they have possibly thought of another reason rather than abduction for the girls disappearance and have therefore searched as such but at the end of the day they know they'll find nothing and, when they dont, use that as leverage to push forward with the fishing game they have played for years. Hope not, but if after all these years the met admit to something different then its going to look bad on them, as they have discounted all the PJ evidence from the start. Where would that leave them? Having to answer to the public for a multi million pound investigation that 10s of thousands of people knew to be a sham from the off.

Perhaps you could share the inside information that you must have about the investigation?

by Cristobell 08.05.14 15:41

PeterMac wrote:How many, turning up for a formal occasion, in front of the War Memorial, would not brush their hair, wear clean trousers and slightly more formal shoes

Not bothering with appearance is a sign of extreme stress. Unfortunately for Kate there is a pictorial record of how well groomed and stress free she was in the summer of 2007.

by jeanmonroe 08.05.14 15:44

There's nothing, AFAIK, to prevent GA going to PDL, at this time.

Perhaps he might even 'bump into' DCI Redwood and the 'team' in PDL and 'unofficially' have a 'chat' PROFESSIONL TO PROFESSIONALS, about the 'case'

After all, DCI Redwood has stated on national TV that he would like to hear from ANYONE who might have 'information' no matter how 'spurious', to possibly help himself the Met to 'solve' the mystery of a child's 'disappearance'.

by mouse 08.05.14 15:45

jeanmonroe wrote:I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.

Hate to say it - but it's not beyond the realms. After all, wasn't this how Barry George found himself incarcerated. I believe, if memory serves me right, that Mr George was visited in prison pre-trial, by an officer (not sure who) and somehow transference of DNA could have happened with a certain exhibit being taken into the prison......And now who was leading the investigation and got Barry George charged and sent down?????

As I said, I might have remembered this wrong, but I'm sure Mr Bennett will put me right.

by Cristobell 08.05.14 15:48

Clocker wrote:
tasprin wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.
Sorry, should have added that I have high lighted the funny part in your response.

'Finding Madeleine and discovering what happened to her'. Their old chant seems to have changed. It used to be 'find Madeleine and her abductor'.

by kevmack 08.05.14 15:51

mouse wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.
Hate to say it - but it's not beyond the realms. After all, wasn't this how Barry George found himself incarcerated. I believe, if memory serves me right, that Mr George was visited in prison pre-trial, by an officer (not sure who) and somehow transference of DNA could have happened with a certain exhibit being taken into the prison......And now who was leading the investigation and got Barry George charged and sent down?????

As I said, I might have remembered this wrong, but I'm sure Mr Bennett will put me right.

Sorry, but no, I think that is heading into the realms of pure fantasy, and whilst the Barry George case is open to that interpretation, don't forget there are still many people who believe he is guilty and he was tried in the UK for a crime committed in the UK, this is totally different. As for the met planting dna in a Portuguese burglar's house, there's no way it would stand up to international legal scrutiny...not in a million years

by kevmack 08.05.14 15:54

I agree Cristobell, the McCanns certainly seem to by trying to pre-empt something and I somehow think they are wishing that it could just be decided that Madeleine was dead and that the whole thing would just go away..but it won't!

by jeanmonroe 08.05.14 15:54

Optimistically.

Hope not, but if after all these years the met admit to something different then its going to look bad on them, as they have discounted all the PJ evidence from the start. Where would that leave them?
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Far from 'discounting' the PJ 'evidence' DCI Redwood, appears to be moving TOWARDS the PJ 'conclusions' of 10th September 2007.

"Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive' DCI Redwood stated, recently.

That's exactly what GA also 'said'

The PROBLEM DCI Redwood has is that after a THREE years, multi-million pound 'investigation' he has not got and can't produce/find/get, a scintilla of hard evidence that Madeleine 'was abducted'

Which is his ONLY 'remit'

Only last week GM, father of Madeleine, said on national TV, 'there are MANY 'other' scenarios that could explain why Madeleine is not here'

Redwood is IGNORING 'ANY' OTHER 'explanations' (even 'other' explanations/scenarios the actual father of the missing child might 'suggest')

His 'remit' is 'abduction' only

BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HE WAS TOLD to only 'INVESTIGATE'.

I'm pretty sure that at least one of his 'team' at Operation Grange has said to him 'What IF they are actually...?' 'Is it POSSIBLE that they..?.' 'WHY is it IMPOSSIBLE that they couldn't be 'involved'...?' etc,

by mouse 08.05.14 16:07

kevmack wrote:
mouse wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.
Hate to say it - but it's not beyond the realms. After all, wasn't this how Barry George found himself incarcerated. I believe, if memory serves me right, that Mr George was visited in prison pre-trial, by an officer (not sure who) and somehow transference of DNA could have happened with a certain exhibit being taken into the prison......And now who was leading the investigation and got Barry George charged and sent down?????

As I said, I might have remembered this wrong, but I'm sure Mr Bennett will put me right.
Sorry, but no, I think that is heading into the realms of pure fantasy, and whilst the Barry George case is open to that interpretation, don't forget there are still many people who believe he is guilty and he was tried in the UK for a crime committed in the UK, this is totally different. As for the met planting dna in a Portuguese burglar's house, there's no way it would stand up to international legal scrutiny...not in a million years

And there are still many people who believe BG is innocent. Some on this forum. And as for fantasy, the mounting tales of corruption that have come out about the police of late....Maybe we should all keep a very open mind, and not write off someone's opinion as pure fantasy. I can assure I wouldn't fantasize over such a serious issue, or speculate - as many do about what is actually going on at the moment concerning digs. I was only answering Jean - going on what happened on another case involving a certain police officer who is investigating Madeleine Mccann's disappearance.

by Jauna Loca 08.05.14 16:10

AndyB wrote:
Isn't that an Irish radio presenter's account though? Most of the people that responded would, I think, have been Irish and untainted by the propaganda that we get. If a radio station here did it I suspect the results would be much more equivocal

Unfortunately AndyB we'seem to have an independent press here at all in Ireland. We have been fed exactly the same drivel that you have. Most of my friends believe in the Sainted Couple
and are absoloutley shocked that I could think otherwise. My sister thinks I'm barking! tease

by tasprin 08.05.14 16:10

paradigm67 wrote:
tasprin wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.
Isn't the possible flipside to that statement, that they know where the police 'digs' are taking place and they know full well that its fruitless as nothing will be found. They can use that as vindication of their 'innocence' and will no doubt use it as such. Could just as easily be a sham move by the met to show that they have possibly thought of another reason rather than abduction for the girls disappearance and have therefore searched as such but at the end of the day they know they'll find nothing and, when they dont, use that as leverage to push forward with the fishing game they have played for years. Hope not, but if after all these years the met admit to something different then its going to look bad on them, as they have discounted all the PJ evidence from the start. Where would that leave them? Having to answer to the public for a multi million pound investigation that 10s of thousands of people knew to be a sham from the off.

Agree, that's possible Paradigm. I've always thought the body has been hidden so well it will never be found and that's why they're so confident. But you don't need a body for a conviction and maybe the police have something else to go on. Hopefully it's something substantial and they're not digging up PDL on a whim. You never know with this case though so I'm on the fence.

by HelenMeg 08.05.14 16:12

tasprin wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

The McCanns hubristic, guilt-tripping message is not just for the media imo, but also a way to control their own followers. They dictate what comes out on FB as well as in the media. It was they who gave the Mirror the exclusive on the searches so they obviously wanted it in the public domain, just as they wanted to create a media circus around the libel trial, but all comment must be under their control. The Findmadeleine Facebook page is one of the most censored sites on the internet. Their followers are not permitted to question anything - just bow and pray but otherwise keep schtum - The Church of Scientology would be proud.

Whatever they say can often be the opposite of what is the truth. I think they may well be encouraging a lot of media 'noise'. It may well be in their interest to cause disruption to this 'search'. They may be well be promoting media reporting on this.
Whatever they say is almost certainly a lie designed to benefit themselves. If they are dismayed then I would guess they are 'delighted' and wish to damage and destroy the investigation altogether.

by phil_burton 08.05.14 16:21

That message from Gerry and Kate on the Facebook page is IMO a sign they are losing control, or have lost control.

It reeks of them knowing that the next few days/weeks/months there will be things reported in the media that don't necessarily paint them in a very good light.

After years of using the British press to their own advantage, they now perhaps sense that the tide has turned, some of the original facts will be reported again, the PJ will be the ones holding the reigns, giving the press conferences and controling what information is released, so the British press will have to report it - so the McCanns now start to lambast the British press and urge them to shut-up. How ironic.

by Guest 08.05.14 16:22

I for one do not care for their distress, they have brought in on themselves. As for respect and consideration for their family - what respect has any of them shown to the public, the police, the Portugese - nothing but contempt IMO. One needs to earn respect.

As for Madeleine, poor little girl. I feel compassion for a young child whose short life has ended and who seems to have been surrounded by adults who showed no respect for her. It is heart-breaking.

by gbwales 08.05.14 16:23

jeanmonroe wrote:I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell/prove to me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.

I suppose it's certainly logically possible.
But I think there's now too much out there and findable on the web in the way of big red flags on so many matters - let alone cadaverine alerts including the hire car etc - stuff that simply won't fit such a version - that suggest that they could not possibly bury the case anymore. The only way IMO it can be fully closed is with the truth.

by paradigm67 08.05.14 16:24

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
paradigm67 wrote:
Isn't the possible flipside to that statement, that they know where the police 'digs' are taking place and they know full well that its fruitless as nothing will be found. They can use that as vindication of their 'innocence' and will no doubt use it as such. Could just as easily be a sham move by the met to show that they have possibly thought of another reason rather than abduction for the girls disappearance and have therefore searched as such but at the end of the day they know they'll find nothing and, when they dont, use that as leverage to push forward with the fishing game they have played for years. Hope not, but if after all these years the met admit to something different then its going to look bad on them, as they have discounted all the PJ evidence from the start. Where would that leave them? Having to answer to the public for a multi million pound investigation that 10s of thousands of people knew to be a sham from the off.

Perhaps you could share the inside information that you must have about the investigation?

Sorry WLBTS - probably the way I've phrased it - my bad. I should have said that they seem to have discounted the PJ files. It just seems that from the outset that they have been concentrating on finding an abductor - from whichever part of society they deem fit. This is based on all the press/CW reconstructions etc the whole premise of the parents being involved in some way seems to have been discounted. I suppose that I'm basing this on what the public have been told over here but then again, how much of those press reports have been genuine or even generated by the police. It could be that they have been working on two separate lines of enquiry.

You're right of course, we dont know what they've been doing behind the scenes and might have gone over the PJ files in more detail. Perhaps using their more comprehensive phone records for example to investigate the records according to what the PJ already have and flesh them out. Retrospectively, I suppose that what has been released in the press has to be taken with a pinch of salt and not blindly believed as the police shouldnt be revealing details of any ongoing investigation. Think I need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 08.05.14 16:26

To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:

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7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

by phil_burton 08.05.14 16:27

gbwales wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:I know i shouldn't say this, BUT, imo, it is absolutely 'feasible' that the 'Maddie Cops' have collected 'DNA 'samples' of Madeleine from Rothley Towers, (hair) and wanted 'access' to 3 burglators 'homes' in Portugal and 'find' the er, umm, 'undisputable evidence' that the burglators 'done it'

IMO, obviously.

If somebody could assure/tell/prove to me this .'scenario' could NOT possibly happen, i'd be glad to hear it.

I suppose it's certainly logically possible.
But I think there's now too much out there and findable on the web in the way of big red flags on so many matters - let alone cadaverine alerts including the hire car etc - stuff that simply won't fit such a version - that suggest that they could not possibly bury the case anymore. The only way IMO it can be fully closed is with the truth.

I mentioned earlier on this thread that if this is the latest step in a whitewash, then the possibility of evidence having been planted in Portugal is there, and I wouldn't put it past SY. It's clear that there's very influential involvement in this case, and a simple plant of this kind would be no trouble.

by tasprin 08.05.14 16:29

I wonder if any of the 8 witnesses to be interviewed by SY were approached by Metodo3.

snipped from Anorak

December 2007

And we hear from Jenny Murat, Robert Murat’s mother. “We did nothing wrong and we have been penalised for their mistake. It is really upsetting. I cannot tell you what has been going on here. It has just been horrendous,” says she.

She goes on: “Metodo [the McCanns private detectives] were getting people to change their statements, following everybody everywhere. They were certainly following me. If they [Metodo 3] have anybody who saw Robert, they are paying them to lie. They were following me everywhere. Why? I don’t know. It’s pretty scary, I can tell you.”

Says Clarence Mitchell: “It is a ridiculous suggestion to claim M3 are paying witnesses to change their story. That is entirely untrue and M3 are acting completely within the law in what they are doing… We are not going to get into a row and she is entitled to her own opinion, but Kate and Gerry felt they had done everything possible for their children on May 3 and that they were perfectly safe”
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ETA: Does anyone know what became of Jenny Murat's book. Did the McCann's lawyers have that banned too?
Express 2 December 2012
Mrs Murat, now working on her own book about the case, added: “I am sick of all the half-truths and innuendos, so I do want a full and accurate record of the truth. It is important that our story is told.”
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by Guest 08.05.14 16:31

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:

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7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

Grrr... they make me feel so angry sometimes with their sanctimonious drivel.

by paradigm67 08.05.14 16:36

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

I hope so and then the editors of rags like the mail might put a bit of a leash on the people who ~~censor~~ the comments to allow at least a few through that arent slagging off the PJ or bleating about the parents anguish. Probably wont happen though.