Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

by stillsloppingout 08.05.14 23:10

canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

Looks like Reservoir [ Don't mention the ] Dogs !!!! .

by Guest 08.05.14 23:16

stillsloppingout wrote:
canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)
Looks like Reservoir [ Don't mention the ] Dogs !!!! .

maybe he's hoping the manhole will open up and swallow him

by Dutchgirl 08.05.14 23:19

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What happened to Maddie?

The search for Madeleine McCann has produced a new shocking update: Officials are preparing to dig at the Portugal resort where the child vanished. This could signal the beginning of the end of this seven-year-long cold case that has long been at the front of worldwide media headlines. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Evidence has always supported the theory that Maddie never left the resort alive. So it wouldn't be surprising at all if her body is unearthed at the popular vacation spot. It also seems convenient that the SY officials would publicize their search plans just days after Kate McCann expressed the desire to find out whether or not little Maddie is alive. Could the little girl's parents be nervous about the upcoming dig operation?
When Madeleine McCann first vanished, investigators in Portugal declared her parents as suspects. They did so upon observing all of the evidence against them: Signs that someone had died in their rental apartment, no signs of forced entry, no verifiable fingerprints belonging to anyone but Kate McCann -- and the list just goes on and on. Now that SY are going to dig in search of Maddie's remains, one has to wonder of investigators in Portugal were right all along: Did Kate and Gerry McCann cover up their daughter's accidental death?

by Markus 2 08.05.14 23:25

Yes I did mention this on the other site, Gerry's Clothes, also wondered if that building was a renovated barn. If you look at the gate and fence surrounding that area seems like they have a sign on the outside facing into the buildings , banning entry ,so what area is of interest to them, the whole of the waste land or the area just around those buildings .

by **Tony Bennett** 08.05.14 23:25

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How appropriate that this team of Mafia-lookalikes should be walking on a load of cobbles.

Are we running a caption competition?

Bloke at the back: "Slow down Andy! Your tempo is moving forwards too fast"

by Guest 08.05.14 23:26

mariola wrote:
BlackCatBoogie wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Looks interesting reading. Why did BK get involved - did he know the family, or masonic link, or he felt sorry for them?
I do not know.

What is known is this:

1. Kennedy's in-house lawyer, i.e. Head of Legal Services for his Latium business empire, was Edward Smethurst - long before 2007

2. Edward Smethurst is a Mason, his father was a Mason, he was brought up in his troubled teenage years by Masons (incluidng by his lifelong mentor, Alvin Shuttleworth), and has been a 'Past Worshipful Master' of his East Lancashire Provincial Branch of the Masons, and held other prominent positions in Freemasonry. Shuttleworth also handed him his first real job, working under him as Legal Officer for British Nuclear Fuels. Shuttleworth was the Head of Legal Services for BNFL

3. Since 2009, Smethurst has holidayed every year in a classy apartment in Praia da Luz with one or other of his three familiies (he has six children by three diferent women)

4. In her book 'madeleine', Dr Kate McCann says they knew nothing of Kennedy or Smethurst until three days after they returned to England on 9 September. On 12 September, she says Smethurst contacted them to offer Kennedy's help

5. Kennedy has always maintained that he was just a 'good Samaritan' in this case, that his sole motive was to help the McCanns find Madeleine.

There may be another link between BK/Mccanns.

If you look at the comment on Spudguns comment found today (discussed in Members Lounge):-

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then it says:-

"Hayley Kennedy, nee Plumber/Plummer, the current wife of James Kennedy (Uncle Brian's son) is the only witness to attest to the fact that Madeleine was present in Laurel's nursery in 2007."

Laurels was allegedley the nursery that MBM attended. If you google it then Hayley Kennedy is indeed listed as the nursery manager:-

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I haven't yet substantiated the link between BK/James Kennedy/Hayley Plumber/Plummer. For a start does anyone know if BK had a son called James?

All in my own opinion.
There are two men called Brian Kennedy.One the uncle,the other the do-gooder.

Thanks Mariola - I have confused the two Brian Kennedy's. My comment does indeed relate to Brian the uncle so not actually related to TB's post. Maybe not relevant here then but the alleged nursery connection IS possibly yet another Mccann co-incidence as Brian the Uncle and Janet do indeed have a son called James:-
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(but I haven't yet found anything to say JK is married to Hayley Plumber/Plummer).

by stillsloppingout 08.05.14 23:32

Tony Bennett wrote:
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How appropriate that this team of Mafia-lookalikes should be walking on a load of cobbles.

Are we running a caption competition?

Bloke at the back: "Slow down Andy! Your tempo is moving forwards too fast"

.... [ one for older members ] Andy finally had it narrowed down to two, in his Lennie Peters lookalike contest big grin

by **Tony Bennett** 08.05.14 23:37

stillsloppingout wrote:
Exclusive pix: Essex-based photo agency, must be the Met's snappers of choice, as they were the ones who did the last shots in PDL, I've just checked.
BTW, there is no way an agency would be the first with pics twice unless they were invited, or tipped off.

Fascinating.

Without doubt, 'stillsloppingout', not only have they (Exclusive pix) been tipped off, or invited, it is very clear indeed that they have been informed at what precise spot to be at what time.

This is every bit as choreographed as all those takes and re-takes and pre-arranged photo-shoots of the McCanns in Praia da Luz in 2007 (and elsewhere since then).

I said a few days ago that this entire Grange visit to Praia da Luz was just for show - a public performance designed to continue to influence public perception.

I may be wrong, but the news that one Essex-based agency has been notified of what photos the Met want taken, where and when - as IMO is perfectly obvious from both sets of photographs - helps my case.

I wouldn't be surprised if after each photo was taken, DCI Redwood had a look through all the images (several would have been taken) and selected the one he wanted before Exclusive pix sent them off to Fleet Street.

This, regrettably, is a police force looking for the headlines and photo-opportunities they want - and not looking to find out what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

by XTC 08.05.14 23:38

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
Brock_and_Roll wrote:Everyone (other than the lawyers) wants some kind of closure to this case however I feel that the optimism of many here brought about by the most recent developments are perhaps premature.

It is extremely unlikely that a body or any other buried object will be recovered from these locations that are so central to PDL:

1) the areas are far too public

2) the ground is far too hard in the inland areas and even if the ground had been softened by recent rain, there would have been obvious signs of disturbance.

3) In the case of the beach, this is the atlantic coast so nothing is likely to remained shallow buried for too long.

As such I think the most likely outcome is that these searches will prove nothing and the presence of the British press pack will drive an even bigger wedge between the Portugese and British police. I hope I am wrong.

Welcome to the forum Brock_and_Roll!

I agree with you on the three locations most prominently reported in the media. Those places are unlikely burial sites, and would have been next to impossible to dig at the time, and now.

But other reports have mentioned the hillside to the east of PdL, a location I have long suspected.

And there may be other locations, the reported locations being a misdirection.

Yes we may all be getting a bit over -optimistic at the moment but SY are still providng a media narrative ( knowingly or unknowingly?)
otherwise why not just get on with the dig privately instead of announcing it via the Daily Mirror? Cynics could say by doing this they know that the dig may be halted before it even starts and the narrative in the media then becomes ' Portuguese Cops ban SY from PdL' - Sub - heading inferrence - Just as they were getting close to solving the crime!

DI Redwood and his team by dismmissing JT's bundleman sighting must by definition be looking at the Smith families 10pm sighting. In my opinion even if they (SY) are looking for Madeleine dead or alive in belief of this sighting then why would you dig away from the direction of bundleman No2? In other words shouldn't they be following the 10pm sighting only? In terms of forensic evidence anything shed or thrown away would not be near the apartments but on the way to the beach where it is thought this man was travelling. If this is the man they want he would not stop to dig a hole to hide something then carry on bundling towards the beach. By the way even if the carrier did throw something away and it belonged to Madeleine it would be possible that the item(s) would have cadaver scent and a live scent combined on the item(s) or one or the other. The live scent dogs could have picked up one and Eddie could have picked up the other. I think it is also possible that Eddie could have picked up cadaver scent from something that could have been brought back to 5a before being disposed of
later - not necessarily directly from a body but strong enough to make Eddie howl like a wolf at the Scenic weeks later.
DI Redwood and his team are not being very consistent I think and that makes me wary. 6 cops and 2 Forensic people. Better to have 6 Forensic Cops and 2 Policemen. The Man at C & A look may be great for the media but the man/woman in white forensic suit would be the
look I would be looking for if they are being serious. I hope they are - but hope is all it is at the moment- we shall see as always.

p.s. " Better dogs...."

Some in the know reckon that Stephen Hawking is a ' better ' physicist than Albert Einstein but seeng as Stephen Hawking learnt most of what he knows from Professer Einstein then it doesn't make Einstein less of a genius but more of one as in the world he worked less was known. Everybody learns from those who went before. Imagine Einstein saying : " You know that Da Vinci fellow: He was an incredibly unreliable Scientist."

The same genius applies with dogs and their trainers. The dogs being the real stars though. No mention of them yet though.

by ultimaThule 08.05.14 23:43

canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

"The Boys Are Back In Town" and Andy's minions are carrying the cash to pay for work the PJ's been contracted to do.

This photo shows them looking for the bank which is offering the most favourable rate of exchange from £ to euros and then it will be down to the beach to soak up some rays while the Portuguese get on with it. Let's hope the Met's finest remembered to don their budgie smugglers before getting suited and booted for the MSM, otherwise they'll be headline news for another reason entirely.

by Watching 08.05.14 23:58

canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

That he's forgotten his bag and his shovel!

by tasprin 09.05.14 0:04

stillsloppingout wrote:
They excavated coconut shell , or something at HDLG , i remember having a heated argument with a pro on the 3a's [ who by his instant responses to any anti news clearly was a family associate ] about this saying they may have recovered this in the soil above what they were looking for .

I believe children did die at Haute de la Garenne. How long ago that was and whether they were murdered or not is another matter but imo the Jersey authorities were desperate to destroy the investigation and they succeeded. It was easy for Jersey to discredit the dogs as the McCanns had already done that job for them. The investigating officer and Martin Grime suffered the same fate as in the McCann case. One odd thing about HDLG is that it seems to be the only place where Jimmy Savile did not abuse children.

With regards to the coconut shell myth; this is what Former Deputy Chief Police Officer Lenny Harper had to say:

Snipped from Voice For Children
Saturday, 10 March 2012
Exclusive Footage of "Eddie" Cadaver Dog at HDLG.

Once more VFC is able to bring its readers/viewers another, what we are told is, a world exclusive
With the assistance of Former Senior Investigating Officer of the Jersey Child Abuse Investigation, and Former Deputy Chief Police Officer Mr Lenny Harper, we are able to bring you exclusive video footage of arguably the world's most renowned Cadaver Dog "Eddie" not only working at the crime scene of the Former Jersey Children's Home, Haute de la Garenne, but alerting to the scent of human death. Not a great deal of these Cadaver dogs work has been reported in the State Media, other than to discredit them, so we asked Mr Harper to document for us just exactly what is happening in the video below, what does a Cadaver dog do? How significant to the investigation the dog was? What, if anything did he (the dog) find? The results, it has to be said were astounding. Mr. Harper agreed to our request and once again we thank him for his commitment to the truth and justice.

With the assistance of Former Senior Investigating Officer of the Jersey Child Abuse Investigation, and Former Deputy Chief Police Officer Mr. Lenny Harper, we are able to bring you exclusive video footage of arguably the world's most renowned Cadaver Dog "Eddie" not only working at the crime scene of the Former Jersey Children's Home, Haute de la Garenne, but alerting to the scent of human death. Not a great deal of these Cadaver dogs work has been reported in the State Media, other than to discredit them, so we asked Mr Harper to document for us just exactly what is happening in the video below, what does a Cadaver dog do? How significant to the investigation the dog was? What, if anything did he (the dog) find?The results, it has to be said were astounding. Mr. Harper agreed to our request and once again we thank him for his commitment to the truth and justice.

For viewers information "JAR/6" is the fragment of child's skull.

00.00.0 Getting ready. I was reluctant to let the dog inside as I did not feel that it would do much good. In truth, I was a little sceptical – I had not felt a favourable impression from the handler (Martin Grimes) at our initial meeting and I was dubious, although my opinion of his qualities and integrity was to markedly change as events unfolded. I began to realise as I worked closely with him over a period of months that what I originally took as arrogance was simply supreme confidence in the ability of his dogs in the face of jealous, empire protecting rivals who were not as professionally capable. Throughout the investigation, we subjected Martin and his dogs to many ‘verifying’ tests, from burying swabs in sand (which he always found no matter how large an area), to minute blood stains. The dogs never failed. Many of these tests were carried out in front of Jersey politicians and media, including Channel Television and Diane Simon of the JEP. Frank Walker and Andrew Lewis were only two of the politicians who witnessed the ability of the dogs in hugely impressive displays. Funny how they all forgot this when they jumped on the bandwagon which sought to ruin Martin Grime’s reputation. One of the most spectacular exercises occurred when one of the Anthropologists brought a vial of sand back that she had removed from the tomb of a mummy in Egypt. We put this vial on a beach, below the sand, and let Eddie off to look for it. The dog amazingly sought it out in a few minutes and gave us the reaction you will see in this video. To get back to the start of the video and my initial doubts, after a few days outside I had at least gained a grudging respect for Martin’s hard work and dedication. I still was not keen to extend the search inside the house with the dog; however, I reluctantly conceded that we should look at all our possibilities so that we could walk away and say that we had given it a good shot. You can see me standing looking less than confident.

00.02.58 Eddie is now reacting very strongly and indicating to us that the scent of dead human flesh is in this location. This is where we were to find JAR/6, which the establishment continue to say was only coconut, but cannot explain how Eddie reacted as he did, nor indeed, how the lab at Oxford found Collagen. Collagen is not found in coconut or wood, it is only present in mammals, which would seem to destroy the claims of the Jersey establishment, aided and abetted by the Jersey Evening Post and Channel Television, that JAR/6 is coconut or wood. Again, it is worthy of recall, that the builders who found the bones at this location thought they were human, and that one of them actually identified a bone as that of a child’s pelvic bone from the internet. Additionally, the police officer who was called to the scene was also dubious of the bones’ origins, as was the female pathologist who attended. She “did not like” the situation and referred the matter to her boss who said the bones where not consistent with being human. However, an Anthropologist later stated that he was incorrect and the measurements he quoted were entirely consistent with the bones being children’s’ pelvic bones as identified by one of the builders. The Anthropologist further stated that the Pathologist was not qualified to make the statement that he had.
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by stillsloppingout 09.05.14 0:07

ultimaThule wrote:
canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

"The Boys Are Back In Town" and Andy's minions are carrying the cash to pay for work the PJ's been contracted to do.

This photo shows them looking for the bank which is offering the most favourable rate of exchange from £ to euros and then it will be down to the beach to soak up some rays while the Portuguese get on with it. Let's hope the Met's finest remembered to don their budgie smugglers before getting suited and booted for the MSM, otherwise they'll be headline news for another reason entirely.

Note .
Look how the officer's are desperately suppressing there facial emotions, Andy has adopted neutral face look, the bloke bang in the centre preferring to look down . That tells me the pic is clearly set up , and they have had time to walk into it, hence the suppression , blank face ,looking down etc. if that was papped or even taken by somebody waiting who they did not know, they would look startled, annoyed ,confused etc .
i can also tell there was only one snapper, its too controlled . As Tony Stated a few posts ago, they have barley arrived and they are manipulating the narrative already .

Because as i alluded to in an earlier post if they cannot say what is going on there staged pics will say it for them .

See a picture tells a thousand words .

by Okeydokey 09.05.14 0:10

Watching wrote:
canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

That he's forgotten his bag and his shovel!

Suited and booted...but definitely not muted.

by pauloptix 09.05.14 0:30

Okeydokey wrote:
Watching wrote:
canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

That he's forgotten his bag and his shovel!

Suited and booted...but definitely not muted.

When we've wrapped up this case, that wall needs whitewashing too. sarcastic

by mouse 09.05.14 0:32

So let me get this right - we get pics/footage of these guys arriving at the airport (and not for the first time) and then leaving with their baggage. Then we get more shots of the guys walking through cobbled streets....what next...purchasing spades for the dig. Sorry to make light of what should be a really sad and serious step forward in this case....but I was under the impression that they had agreed with the PJ not to provide any updates/leaks/further information as to the case. Doesn't this already break the rule? A running commentary in pictures (prob far easier for SJ than giving a verbal explanation though). So I guess SY thought pics didn't come under this agreement. So are we next to be privy to - photos from them in the helicopter....?

Stillsloppingout - I got the reservoir dogs impression too - as soon as I saw those photos....Sadly though, arriving at airport pics - are usually these days reserved for A & B list Celebs...Perhaps Andy and his gang with their designer shades are under the impression that they are, and are actually enjoying their almost Heat Magazine status at the moment....Though I'm afraid having a full time hired (most likely) photographer following the group around (we know the pics are being sold/released by an agency as it was mentioned on one of the SKY new reports that I watched - though I wonder who actually took them, and are they official to SY) it all appears genuinely sad. Here's a thought - perhaps the Mccanns should complain about this....though I'm sure they won't. However - I bet the PJ are not amused! Making out these guys are doing all the work, while what?...The PJ are munching on sardines? I'd be furious if I was them. Curious isn't it, the absence of pics/footage of SY sitting down at the table with the PJ - as a connected joint investigation....I think I might be waiting some time to see that.

A picture paints a thousand words, but sadly you can manipulate whatever you want these days...as we know. Though absence speaks volumes!

Oh and Ta AndyB, you know why.

by lj 09.05.14 1:12

mouse wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:

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7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

Grrr... they make me feel so angry sometimes with their sanctimonious drivel.
I know, and I reckon the editors and journalists feel the same, in fact have felt the same for years....The question is why don't they say anything? Love to hear, or see some of their experiences with the Mccanns - when the cameras stop rolling, and the tapes stop recording...We've seen a few snippets, but there's gotta be a load of fly on the wall stuff about....Probably be worth a bit one day....

All those journalists have proven they are not a hair better as the conning couple. So please let them FO each other.

by jeanmonroe 09.05.14 1:20

British detectives are currently in the Algarve and this morning met with counterparts from the Policia Judiciaria.

Neither country's officers would offer a view on how the almost four-hour meeting went.
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10:00am Met meet PJ

10:01am. Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

10:01:05am PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

12:00midday: Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

12:00:05pm: PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

14:00pm: Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

14:00:05pm PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

"Ok guys, we've been here for 4 hours, it's siesta time, same time tomorrow?"

by notlongnow 09.05.14 1:33

jeanmonroe wrote:British detectives are currently in the Algarve and this morning met with counterparts from the Policia Judiciaria.

Neither country's officers would offer a view on how the almost four-hour meeting went.
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10:00am Met meet PJ

10:01am. Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

10:01:05am PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

12:00midday: Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

12:00:05pm: PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

14:00pm: Met Police to PJ.....'abduction by paedo stranger?'

14:00:05pm PJ to Met......'nah, faked abduction by parents and others'

"Ok guys, siesta time, same time tomorrow?"

by jeanmonroe 09.05.14 1:36

mariola wrote:

"There are two men called Brian Kennedy.One the uncle, the other the do-gooder".
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Maybe......... THREE!

Lorraine Kelly's 'first true love and boyfriend' was a ...........BRIAN KENNEDY!

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Who was your first love?

Brian Kennedy. He was really nice.

What was your first kiss?

I don't really remember. Probably during a game of Postman's Knock.

What did you do on your first date?

We went to the baths. He paid me in, and we had chips on the way home.
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Coincidence? (to explain her sycophantic 'support' for everything McCann?)

by lj 09.05.14 2:01

ChippyM wrote:
lj wrote:
ChippyM wrote:
stillsloppingout wrote:
AndyB wrote:
jozi wrote:I think or hope ( fingers crossed ) they are on the right track and are beginning to suspect the Mcs but cannot let on !!! They are even bringing sniffer dogs in who are better .........So they do recognize the dogs.
I wouldn't surprise me if the "better" sniffer dogs don't alert in 5a thereby negating Eddie & Keela's alerts
There is no such thing as BETTER SNIFFER DOGS . It is a subtle ploy to discredit Eddie and Keeler's findings .

BTW a normal dog can detect scent for up to seven years . so it is possible if the hire car is still knocking about . it may still be able to detect those rotting nappies etc.....

It could be an attempt to reinforce Eddie and Keela's alerts. If there were some dogs that had an absolutely 100% record and they alerted in the same places too, then the people implicated would find it hard to discredit.

Didn't Eddie and Keela have a 100% alert?

I can't find specific records but some people would have us believe they cocked up at Hdlg in Jersey!

Oh that, the idiots who say because they found a piece of coconut shell the alert was false? That the same as digging a hole, finding no body, say that proves Madeleine is alive.

by lj 09.05.14 2:04

canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
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Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

"that vinho verde was one too many. Better take some hair of the dog at lunch time"

by lj 09.05.14 2:04

canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

"that vinho verde was one too many. Better take some hair of the dog at lunch time"

by lj 09.05.14 2:15

Tony Bennett wrote:
stillsloppingout wrote:
Exclusive pix: Essex-based photo agency, must be the Met's snappers of choice, as they were the ones who did the last shots in PDL, I've just checked.
BTW, there is no way an agency would be the first with pics twice unless they were invited, or tipped off.
Fascinating.

Without doubt, 'stillsloppingout', not only have they (Exclusive pix) been tipped off, or invited, it is very clear indeed that they have been informed at what precise spot to be at what time.

This is every bit as choreographed as all those takes and re-takes and pre-arranged photo-shoots of the McCanns in Praia da Luz in 2007 (and elsewhere since then).

I said a few days ago that this entire Grange visit to Praia da Luz was just for show - a public performance designed to continue to influence public perception.

I may be wrong, but the news that one Essex-based agency has been notified of what photos the Met want taken, where and when - as IMO is perfectly obvious from both sets of photographs - helps my case.

I wouldn't be surprised if after each photo was taken, DCI Redwood had a look through all the images (several would have been taken) and selected the one he wanted before Exclusive pix sent them off to Fleet Street.

This, regrettably, is a police force looking for the headlines and photo-opportunities they want - and not looking to find out what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

It looks it's time to show what they have done for their how many million £ s by now? Show time!

Of course it will "unearth" nothing.

Than it will be "if Portugal had given permission to the other 278 requests we would have nailed it".

"For now this is all we have, we're responsible, we're not going to waste more tax payers money.

We tried, we really tried, you have seen us tiredless dragging our suitcases around. Don't blame us, blame Portugal.

Oh and Kate and Gerry: the hole was empty, so Madeleine must be alive. Keep on collecting."

by lj 09.05.14 2:17

Watching wrote:
canada12 wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Wonder what Andy is thinking

"See the sunglasses I'm holding in my hand? Bet you can't make the reflection rotate 90 degrees..."
:-)

That he's forgotten his bag and his shovel!

He has someone carrying that for him of course.

by Bishop Brennan 09.05.14 3:09

The helicopter trip is interesting. If they have arrived with 3 spots in mind (2 roads and the beach), then why go up in a helicopter? The streets are clear from Google, and the beach is walkable... Might that suggest that the PJ wanted to give them a much broader view of PDL and the surrounding terrain? Perhaps as a prelude to showing them other potential locations that are of interest to them...

Or was it simply part of an all-expenses-paid, high-profile photo-shoot to try and justify the £10m that we tax-payers have already shelled out? Time will tell.

by Cheshire Cat 09.05.14 6:23

Bishop Brennan wrote:
Or was it simply part of an all-expenses-paid, high-profile photo-shoot to try and justify the £10m that we tax-payers have already shelled out? Time will tell.

A quick peek at the Exclusivepix facebook page tends to reinforce your point. Exclusivepix seem to offer pictures and story:

"Our Exclusive Story and pix we broke Today On the Maddie McCann Case" (this is relating to the current news).

Scroll down a bit and you see this from earlier in the year:

"Our World Exclusive story on the front Page of The Mirror
Read fully story in tomorrows Mirror and Daily Mail" :

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by **tigger** 09.05.14 6:42

Bishop Brennan wrote:The helicopter trip is interesting. If they have arrived with 3 spots in mind (2 roads and the beach), then why go up in a helicopter? The streets are clear from Google, and the beach is walkable... Might that suggest that the PJ wanted to give them a much broader view of PDL and the surrounding terrain? Perhaps as a prelude to showing them other potential locations that are of interest to them...

Or was it simply part of an all-expenses-paid, high-profile photo-shoot to try and justify the £10m that we tax-payers have already shelled out? Time will tell.

The dogs searched PdL and the surrounding area (I believe to 2km beyond PdL) and helicopters were deployed for days.

by NickE 09.05.14 6:56

hmm Helicopter.
Where was the famous barn located?

The Sun, 12 SEPT 2007 "... outside the Portuguese church ... They fear the three-year-old’s body was stashed under roadworks, then later moved ... in a roadworks trench ... It has since been filled in ... but do NOT expect it to be her final resting place ... many of the streets in Praia da Luz were being dug up because of work to recobble them"

by **PeterMac** 09.05.14 7:27

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Thursday, May 8, 2014

Madeleine: digging for the truth?
The Portuguese Polícia Judiciária, often denigrated in the UK for their handling of the Madeleine McCann case, have made in clear they are in charge of the latest phase of the investigation and that the Metropolitan Police Service and the British media had better toe the line.
Mark Rowley, assistant commissioner of the Met, says he has discussed with his PJ counterpart the high level of interest in the forthcoming ground search activity, some of which is likely to take place in public.
In an open letter to the British media, Rowley warned that “if we provide any briefings or information on the work they are undertaking on our behalf, or if reporters cause any disruption to their work in Portugal, activity will cease.”
The Met appealed for “media restraint” when it upped its two-year review to a fully-fledged investigation in July last year, but since then there has been an almost non-stop torrent of media reports - mostly highly speculative and many plainly absurd - about ‘new leads’ and ‘prime suspects.’
The Mirror broke the latest news about the ground searches by quoting - not the Met police - but a source close to Madeleine’s parents.
“Kate and Gerry have been told police will be conducting the searches in and around Praia da Luz as soon as they get the green light from Portuguese authorities,” said the source.
Scotland Yard refused to comment, but the Mirror felt able to inform its readers, “There will be earth diggers everywhere and it will look very dramatic and it will be a heartbreaking and hugely emotional time for Madeleine’s poor parents.”
The paper’s unnamed source went on to make the assertion that “police have assured Kate and Gerry that it does not mean they are specifically searching for her body. They are doing searches as much as to rule scenarios out as much as rule them in.”
If the intention is not to search specifically for a body, “how many holes do you have to dig to rule out the existence of a body?” wondered an unnamed Portuguese police source quoted by the Portugal News.
“Why does the Metropolitan Police Service want to dig up holes if they believe Madeleine is still alive? How do you prove that somebody is alive by digging up holes?” the Portuguese police source added.
In questioning the usefulness of serious excavations in the village, a Praia da Luz resident told the Algarve Resident newspaper: “We’ve had so many people suspected of abducting the child, but none of them were thought to have been in the possession of heavy-duty, earth-digging equipment when they did so.”
The fact is, apart from the beach, the terrain in most of the neighbourhood consists of limestone bedrock. Even in the patches of shallow hard soil, how could an abductor have buried a body, or any other material evidence, unobserved and without tools?
In a wry observation, the Portugal News source said about the British detectives: “Sincerely, it is not easy to understand them. But I’m sure they know what they are doing.”
A Portuguese judge apparently did not entirely agree and turned down as unwarranted a British police request to do house searches on ‘people of interest’ who worked at the complex where the McCanns were staying.
Meanwhile, the hope in the tranquil resort of Praia da Luz, and in the rest of Portugal, is that detectives from the PJ and the Met can work quietly and harmoniously as an efficient team and come up with some hard evidence that leads to justice for Madeleine.