Madeleine McCann cops hunt worker at resort as they fear he 'kept secrets' from local police

by **Keitei** 13.03.17 9:58

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Madeleine McCann cops hunt worker at resort as they fear he 'kept secrets' from local police

British officers are convinced the former worker at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz knows more than he's told them

police are hunting for a worker from the resort where Madeleine McCann vanished who they believe has clues about her disappearance.

The Portuguese man was at the Ocean Club in Praia Da Luz when the three-year-old was snatched in 2007.

He gave a statement at the time but detectives fear he may have kept secrets.

A local police source said: “British officers are very keen to question him.”

The former resort worker being hunted by police on the Madeleine McCann case gave a witness statement two days after the girl vanished.

But British officers trying to find the youngster fear he may have kept secrets from local detectives that could have led to a breakthrough in the case.

And they now want to speak to the former staff member who worked at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the Algarve, where three-year-old Madeleine vanished in May 2007.

A Portuguese police source said: “British officers are convinced he knows more than he was previously saying and are very keen to question him.

“They are not suggesting he stole Maddie but he may know people who could have been involved after a burglary went wrong. The investigation in Britain seems to be grinding to a halt and they want to rule him out of the case if not rule him in.

“Then detectives know they have done everything in their power to try to solve the case.

“This Portuguese man used to work at the club resort, he speaks a bit of English.”

Another source reportedly said: “There is just one person detectives want to speak to who was near to the area Madeleine disappeared from 10 years ago.

“An international search has been under way to find them.”

The “solid live lead” is seen as strong enough to have persuaded the Home Office to plough £85,000 more into the Met’s Operation Grange. That will extend the search for Madeleine until September.

Senior officers are said to have admitted this the “last throw of the dice” in the hunt. But they are taking the new lead so seriously that top Whitehall officials are being briefed on its progress, it is understood.

The £13million hunt for Madeleine was due to end within weeks. But the extra cash came after a“special grant funding” appeal from the Met when the new lead came to light.
Scotland Yard said: “Inquiries are ongoing.” The Ocean Club would not comment last night.

by jeanmonroe 13.03.17 10:39

And the 'bungling paedo burglators' are.........'BACK IN THE ROOM', so 'to speak'!

"There is just ONE person detectives want to speak..."

".......search has been under way to find THEM."

So, is that 'one' (singular) or 'them' (plural)?

Q) 'Where's my ar*e?'

A) 'Near your elbow, I think!'

"He gave a statement at the time but detectives fear he may have kept secrets."

The same 'secrets', like a digger driver, in BN 'case'

'It wuz 'im wot dunnit, innit, you ged me,...case 'closed'

by ChippyM 13.03.17 10:45

I just can't believe this Kandohla person gets away with this utter tripe, Scotland Yard continue to say nothing!

by Guest 13.03.17 11:22

Fox News - August 2007

British and Portuguese police have been monitoring at least one of the friends and a worker connected to the Ocean Club resort, where the group stayed, although police have previously said that nobody in the group was a suspect.

Daily Express - October 2013

POLICE probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance want to interview two odd-job men who worked at the Algarve holiday club where she vanished.

Sky News - June 2014

British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have returned to Portugal to question a number of suspects. They will be speaking to a key witness....

"We think that this includes the three or more former workers from the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz

Donegal Daily - April 2016

Police believe the holiday complex worker who drove a tourist bus for the Mark Warner company was also working with a 16-year-old and two other men.
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A random selection from the past. As usual this is nothing but regurgitated non-news churned out by the UK mainstream propagandists.

by jeanmonroe 13.03.17 11:55

'He' might NOT be the ONLY 'one' who may have 'kept secrets' from the UK British Police officers!

As the astute former Deputy Chief Constable of Greater Manchester said: 'My gut instinct is that some big SECRET is probably being covered up. I have a real suspicion we are not being told the whole truth'

Interviewing UK Police Officer DC 1485 IVOR MESSIAH questioning G Mc 'best buddy' D Payne. (Friday the eleventh of April two thousand and eight)

DC 1485: "Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?'' (about a three years old child 'disappearance')

D Payne 'reply': "Err the, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up.'

What are the 'few things' that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth, (about a child's 'disappearance') you want to keep 'SECRET' and not tell DC Messiah, Dave?

by Guest 13.03.17 18:12

DC 1485: "Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?'' (about a three years old child 'disappearance')

D Payne 'reply': "Err the, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up.'

So David Payne SAYS he has something pertinent/relevant to establishing the material truth but doesn't want to mention it in a rogatory interview.

What forum would he like to mention it in?

Did the Police ever provide that forum for him?

Come on Scotland Yard... why can't you do simple policing?

by justagrannynow 13.03.17 18:46

I am at a loss for words. Do the politicians, police and journalists genuinely believe that there could still be people who are taken in by this endless circulating of the same old rubbish ?

by Mirage 13.03.17 18:51

Can you imagine telling a police officer investigating a child's disappearance that you know a few relevant and pertinent things that you don't want to talk about now?

Can you imagine a police officer accepting that as an answer and letting you walk out of the station?

Can you imagine a police inquiry into a child's disappearance allowing witnesses to refresh their memories by reading their original statements or that of a spouse?

Can you imagine police officers, given a set of rogatory questions by the lead investigators in Portugal, allowing witnesses to be asked a question posed by two people who are suspects in the Portuguese investigation?

Can you imagine that almost nine years after making that statement, there is no evidence to suggest Dr Payne ever did enter a forum (of his choosing, or anyone else's) to divulge those pertinent and relevant details, not even after DCI Redwood revealed that the child may not have left the apartment alive?

Can anyone explain why that same witness, present in the vital hours and minutes before that child went missing, should have been, along with his wife, removed from a Crimewatch reconstruction that appealed to millions here and in certain other countries - but not Portugal, where the crime took place?

by suzyjohnson 13.03.17 19:17

Is this the great plan then? Make sure thousands of taxpayers are fed up spending money on Operation Grange and then say they know what happened but can't prove it?

by suzyjohnson 13.03.17 19:31

Second thoughts, I think I understand what's going on. In light of the publicity surrounding the Supreme Court's decision, the fact that Amaral is allowed to publish his book and the fact that the McCanns were never cleared by the PJ ...... try and get as many other suspects into the UK media as possible?

by plebgate 13.03.17 19:38

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE -

MAN WHO SPEAKS A BIT OF ENGLISH IS BEING HUNTED BY BRITISH POLICE AS HE MAY HAVE SECRETS TO TELL.

Errr an International manhunt eh.

Photo and name would be a good starting point.

@jeanM. Thanks for giving me a smile this morning.

by Rogue-a-Tory 13.03.17 20:24

jeanmonroe wrote:'He' might NOT be the ONLY 'one' who may have 'kept secrets' from the UK British Police officers!

As the astute former Deputy Chief Constable of Greater Manchester said: 'My gut instinct is that some big SECRET is probably being covered up. I have a real suspicion we are not being told the whole truth'

Interviewing UK Police Officer DC 1485 IVOR MESSIAH questioning G Mc 'best buddy' D Payne. (Friday the eleventh of April two thousand and eight)

DC 1485: "Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?'' (about a three years old child 'disappearance')

D Payne 'reply': "Err the, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up.'

What are the 'few things' that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth, (about a child's 'disappearance') you want to keep 'SECRET' and not tell DC Messiah, Dave?

Kept secrets – like the British police force that kept the secret of the Gaspar statements for six months until after Dr Amaral had left the investigation. Or like the British police investigation and a private investigation that kept the Smith efits a secret for so long. Secrets like those?

by Lands_end 13.03.17 22:04

Mirage wrote:Can you imagine telling a police officer investigating a child's disappearance that you know a few relevant and pertinent things that you don't want to talk about now?

Can you imagine a police officer accepting that as an answer and letting you walk out of the station?

Can you imagine a police inquiry into a child's disappearance allowing witnesses to refresh their memories by reading their original statements or that of a spouse?

Can you imagine police officers, given a set of rogatory questions by the lead investigators in Portugal, allowing witnesses to be asked a question posed by two people who are suspects in the Portuguese investigation?

Can you imagine that almost nine years after making that statement, there is no evidence to suggest Dr Payne ever did enter a forum (of his choosing, or anyone else's) to divulge those pertinent and relevant details, not even after DCI Redwood revealed that the child may not have left the apartment alive?

Can anyone explain why that same witness, present in the vital hours and minutes before that child went missing, should have been, along with his wife, removed from a Crimewatch reconstruction that appealed to millions here and in certain other countries - but not Portugal, where the crime took place?

Good article but you left out a vital point.

CAN YOU IMAGINE UPON SUPPOSEDLY FINDING THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IS MISSING WHILST ON HOLIDAY THAT THE PARENTS ARE GOING TO LIE TO THE POLICE.

by Lands_end 13.03.17 22:12

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plebgate wrote:HOLD THE FRONT PAGE -

MAN WHO SPEAKS A BIT OF ENGLISH IS BEING HUNTED BY BRITISH POLICE AS HE MAY HAVE SECRETS TO TELL.

Errr an International manhunt eh.

Photo and name would be a good starting point.

@jeanM. Thanks for giving me a smile this morning.

Haven't got a name as such but here is a good photofit of someone who fits the bill.
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by ChippyM 13.03.17 22:17

The various news sites are back to not allowing comments on this latest tale, or heavily moderating them. I just can't believe people take these stories seriously and accept this is what S.Y. are actually doing. Comments such as, 'the police are just wasting money', 'they'll never find anything'.......that's what they want you to think, waiting

by jeanmonroe 13.03.17 22:19

Lands_end wrote:
Mirage wrote:Can you imagine telling a police officer investigating a child's disappearance that you know a few relevant and pertinent things that you don't want to talk about now?

Can you imagine a police officer accepting that as an answer and letting you walk out of the station?

Can you imagine a police inquiry into a child's disappearance allowing witnesses to refresh their memories by reading their original statements or that of a spouse?

Can you imagine police officers, given a set of rogatory questions by the lead investigators in Portugal, allowing witnesses to be asked a question posed by two people who are suspects in the Portuguese investigation?

Can you imagine that almost nine years after making that statement, there is no evidence to suggest Dr Payne ever did enter a forum (of his choosing, or anyone else's) to divulge those pertinent and relevant details, not even after DCI Redwood revealed that the child may not have left the apartment alive?

Can anyone explain why that same witness, present in the vital hours and minutes before that child went missing, should have been, along with his wife, removed from a Crimewatch reconstruction that appealed to millions here and in certain other countries - but not Portugal, where the crime took place?
Good article but you left out a vital point.

CAN YOU IMAGINE UPON SUPPOSEDLY FINDING THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IS MISSING WHILST ON HOLIDAY THAT THE PARENTS ARE GOING TO LIE TO THE POLICE.

CAN YOU IMAGINE UPON SUPPOSEDLY FINDING THAT YOUR DAUGHTER IS MISSING WHILST ON HOLIDAY THAT YOU BLATANTLY LIE TO YOUR 'FAMILY AND FRIENDS' IN THE UK, TELLING THEM THAT THE SHUTTER, TO MADELEINE'S ROOM, WAS 'JEMMIED, FORCED, BROKEN INTO, SMASHED' BY THE 'ABDUCTOR', AND THAT'S HOW THE 'ABDUCTOR' GAINED ACCESS, TO THE APARTMENT.

AND THEN, CAN YOU IMAGINE, THE 'FAMILY AND FRIENDS' SURPRISE, WHEN THEY DISCOVER, FOR THEMSELVES, THAT THE SHUTTER IS IN 'PERFECT' WORKING ORDER AND HASN'T BEEN 'TAMPERED WITH' IN ANY 'SHAPE OR FORM'

by Mirage 13.03.17 22:33

Perhaps we should have a "Can you imagine" thread.

Can you imagine a scenario where you, as an ordinary holidaymaker in a modest Portuguese resort, have your daughter go missing under questionable circumstances and can be on the blower to Cherie Blair and Gordon Brown?

Well, go on, can you?

by littonlad 13.03.17 22:38

If the police want to question people who may have lied to them or withheld information they've got plenty of options.

by **Jill Havern** 13.03.17 23:03

Mirage wrote:Perhaps we should have a "Can you imagine" thread.

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by Lands_end 13.03.17 23:23

Mirage wrote:Perhaps we should have a "Can you imagine" thread.

The personal killer for me on the can you imagine basis is : Jane Tanner took Gerry to one side and told him that she had seen a man carrying a child in the same pyjamas as Madeleine away from the resort. But they did not tell the child's mother about this for fear of further distress , nor did they tell the police because they feared the police would be too overwhelmed to cope. Please please somebody with an ounce of common sense try to convince me that this is anything other than vomitile tripe.
For anybody out there who remotely supports Kate McC's book version of events you quite frankly are: I'm not allowed to say because it might be seen as libelous.

by **Jill Havern** 13.03.17 23:44

Lands_end wrote:
Mirage wrote:Perhaps we should have a "Can you imagine" thread.
The personal killer for me on the can you imagine basis is : Jane Tanner took Gerry to one side and told him that she had seen a man carrying a child in the same pyjamas as Madeleine away from the resort. But they did not tell the child's mother about this for fear of further distress , nor did they tell the police because they feared the police would be too overwhelmed to cope. Please please somebody with an ounce of common sense try to convince me that this is anything other than vomitile tripe.
For anybody out there who remotely supports Kate McC's book version of events you quite frankly are: I'm not allowed to say because it might be seen as libelous.

Is that what you're trying to do then - sneak in some libelous comments under the radar?

You've been here long enough and followed this case long enough to know how litigious the McCanns are.

So pack it in.

by Lands_end 14.03.17 0:01

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
Lands_end wrote:
Mirage wrote:Perhaps we should have a "Can you imagine" thread.
The personal killer for me on the can you imagine basis is : Jane Tanner took Gerry to one side and told him that she had seen a man carrying a child in the same pyjamas as Madeleine away from the resort. But they did not tell the child's mother about this for fear of further distress , nor did they tell the police because they feared the police would be too overwhelmed to cope. Please please somebody with an ounce of common sense try to convince me that this is anything other than vomitile tripe.
For anybody out there who remotely supports Kate McC's book version of events you quite frankly are: I'm not allowed to say because it might be seen as libelous.

Is that what you're trying to do then - sneak in some libelous comments under the radar?

You've been here long enough and followed this case long enough to know how litigious the McCanns are.

So pack it in.

I'm not trying to sneak anything in. If the public get to read this then they will be made aware that this tragic case of a missing child has turned into nothing other than a "write your own pay check" for greedy legal companies. Even a law company cannot counter that.

by Doug D 14.03.17 1:15

Madeleine McCann cops hunt worker at resort as they fear he 'kept secrets' from local police

British officers are convinced the former worker at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz knows more than he's told them

Police are hunting for a worker from the resort where Madeleine McCann vanished who they believe has clues about her disappearance.

The Portuguese man was at the Ocean Club in Praia Da Luz when the three-year-old was snatched in 2007.

He gave a statement at the time but detectives fear he may have kept secrets.

A local police source said: “British officers are very keen to question him.”

The former resort worker being hunted by police on the Madeleine McCann case gave a witness statement two days after the girl vanished.

But British officers trying to find the youngster fear he may have kept secrets from local detectives that could have led to a breakthrough in the case.

……………………………………………….

Back to the top of the thread again with ‘Tracey’s Trash’ (new daily front page slot?).

Jeanmonroe has reminded us, from DP’s statement, that he has actually admitted withholding information, and from the statements in the PJ files we know there are many others also who just couldn’t get their stories right.

There are snips from this thread from jeanmonroe and mirage on the ‘GerryMcCann’s blogspot’ today, together with a photo of DP outside his hospital.

Is that ‘Sonia Who’ about to try and talk to him? Whatever happened to her? Haven’t seen anything from her recently apart from a tweet the other week slamming the ‘trolling research’ rubbish.

Maybe DP opened up to her about everything he knows but wasn’t forthcoming about, but then again maybe he didn’t!

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On the 28th October 2007, the Daily Mail published an article in which John Stalker said he believed Kate and Gerry McCann were hiding a big secret. Today, on the Daily Mail article about the Portuguese " secretman", I attempted to leave a comment referring readers to this 2007 article but it was not printed. I made no personal comments, so how can a newspaper have objections about one of it's own previous articles ? What I would have liked to suggest, but didn't, was that the Met have no authority to pursue or question the Portuguese man so they could have saved the £85000 and interviewed the UK residents who have either admitted, or are suspected of, hiding secrets. It is this relentless pursuit of foreigners while ignoring the doubts associated with the Tapas group which gives rise to so much suspicion and anger.

by Lands_end 14.03.17 7:03

Out of the box thought here: could it be , could it possibly be that this guy along with a few of his friends actually saw someone run out of the apartment door with a child in his arms and down into the town. He is now prepared to identify this person. Speculate as to whom this person with the child might be by all means.The Police just want him to share this secret in an INTERVIEW.

:please:

by NickE 14.03.17 7:49

Do someone knows if Luis Antonio is still in the PdL area?

by jeanmonroe 14.03.17 10:37

Is this the 'slippery' one?

That the MET need £85,000 to 'find'!

Heriberto Janosch González?

So, is this the one then, from three years ago, the one super sleuth and well known pro Hairy Bert from twitter (otherwise known as Heriberto Janosch) informed SY about - he's in the files apparently.

EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann police are urged to hunt Ocean Club thief

SCOTLAND Yard detectives hunting Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper are being urged to trace a former worker at the Ocean Club holiday villa complex from where she disappeared.

By James Murray

PUBLISHED: 00:00, Sun, Jan 5, 2014

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A criminologist who has spent years analysing Portuguese police files has discovered information about the man, who had previously been caught stealing.
He lived close to the spot where a man was seen carrying a child, who detectives believe was Madeleine, at the time of the abduction.
Madrid-based Heriberto Janosch has written to Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange detectives with details of his findings.
Mr Janosch said that the individual he is interested in was not working at the Ocean Club during the evening when Madeleine disappeared.
He said: “When I read the information in the Portuguese police files I felt it was important to contact Scotland Yard to make sure they were aware of it."
“I have investigated this case for a long time and it is my belief that Madeleine was taken by burglars and there was no planned kidnapping."
“She just happened to come across them when they were in the apartment.”

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Heriberto was on the UK Justice Forum referring to The Star article in 2014 (posted by Wonderfulspam) when Op Grange were looking for the 3 Ocean Club Workers.

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Who knows? NOT me!

by Lands_end 14.03.17 11:12

I have sometimes held this op grange in suspicion, nail on the head hit I think. SY long have seen that McCann have not been their remit as it stands because it happened in another country outside of the influence sphere. "Let's go through the motions and with the money they allocate we can investigate anybody we like in Portugal", ex UK criminals perhaps? All they have to do is mention Madeleine McCann and funds come flooding in. Even R%ichard Br@nson gave a million initially , that probably was a tax dodge. Mods , please don't pull this one, I don't want to hurt anybody except crime perpetrators.

by Guest 14.03.17 11:26

Lands_end wrote:I have sometimes held this op grange in suspicion, nail on the head hit I think. SY long have seen that McCann have not been their remit as it stands because it happened in another country outside of the influence sphere. "Let's go through the motions and with the money they allocate we can investigate anybody we like in Portugal", ex UK criminals perhaps? All they have to do is mention Madeleine McCann and funds come flooding in. Even R%ichard Br@nson gave a million initially , that probably was a tax dodge. Mods , please don't pull this one, I don't want to hurt anybody except crime perpetrators.

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Would you be so good as to be more explicit?

by jeanmonroe 14.03.17 11:30

Lands_end wrote:I have sometimes held this op grange in suspicion, nail on the head hit I think. SY long have seen that McCann have not been their remit as it stands because it happened in another country outside of the influence sphere. "Let's go through the motions and with the money they allocate we can investigate anybody we like in Portugal", ex UK criminals perhaps? All they have to do is mention Madeleine McCann and funds come flooding in. Even R%ichard Br@nson gave a million initially , ....... Mods , please don't pull this one, I don't want to hurt anybody except crime perpetrators.

"Even R%ichard Br@nson gave a million initially , ..............................."

THIS IS NOT TRUE!

He 'offered' to 'set up' a 'legal fund', and asked his 'other friends' to 'join him', 'with a 'pledge' from himself of £100,000 if, IF, the Mcs were to be 'charged' with 'anything'

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"Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson has put forward £100,000 to help kick start a legal fund to clear Kate and Gerry McCann."

"Sir Richard has been in touch with several wealthy figures to encourage them to contribute to the McCanns’ legal fund."

Please, Lands_end, get your 'facts' RIGHT, before 'posting'!

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