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Post by Enid O'Dowd 26.06.14 22:08

In Ireland (maybe its not the same as in the Uk) you can legally evade jury service if you are a medical professional (not just a doctor but nurse, physio etc) or you get your boss to sign a letter to say you are too important to be spared. I wanted to do jury service but my then boss insisted I could not be spared, he was a difficult man so I did not argue and let him write a letter saying he needed me in the office.  I think I read somewhere that the current system in Ireland has to change as it is resulting in juries of the early retired, fulltime housewives whose children are not that young etc - not a jury of your peers as was the intention of juries.

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Post by Guest 26.06.14 22:41

PeterMac wrote:
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PeterMac wrote:A jury is composed of twelve people who weren't intelligent enough to get out of jury duty.

How does one go about getting out of jury duty?  bashful 
The standard way in the old days of peremptory challenges was to wear a dark suit and carry a copy of the Times or the Telegraph.
More modern ways include saying you are pregnant, are hoping to be pregnant, are a student (Lectures cannot be repeated) are mentally ill
have served in the last 5 years, have an expensive holiday booked, are prejudiced against whatever type of person is in the dock

The possibilities are endless . . .  if you are intelligent enough  !

Bloody hell! I was eight months pregnant as well!

(Quite enjoyed it, though. Bit thick, me. Rather grateful for the time off work, too.  smug )
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Post by plebgate 26.06.14 22:43

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Post by Guest 27.06.14 8:38

Rebekah "feels vindicated".. it's in all the papers.

I'm still amazed that Paul McMullan was not called as a witness in this trail.

He has publicly stated on live TV that he has signed documents by his boss authorising him to hack phones and THAT is why he is personally not in prison.

Sounds like a (the) key witness to me.

Especially as Brooks was his boss for a few years and that McMullan told the Leveson enquiry that Brooks knew all about the phone hacking.

What was the prosecution playing at?
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Post by Angelique 27.06.14 9:14

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"Rebekah Brooks told News of the World journalists there were worse revelations to come in the hacking scandal during a heated meeting which saw them vent their fury at her ‘betrayal’.
The embattled chief executive said that in a year’s time staff would all understand why the company had decided to close the newspaper."


I remember RB saying the above quote and thought at the time that there was more to come. But it appears not the case. 


Only AC apparently.

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Post by Cristobell 27.06.14 17:20

Dee Coy wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
MrsC wrote:
PeterMac wrote:A jury is composed of twelve people who weren't intelligent enough to get out of jury duty.

How does one go about getting out of jury duty?  bashful 
The standard way in the old days of peremptory challenges was to wear a dark suit and carry a copy of the Times or the Telegraph.
More modern ways include saying you are pregnant, are hoping to be pregnant, are a student (Lectures cannot be repeated) are mentally ill
have served in the last 5 years, have an expensive holiday booked, are prejudiced against whatever type of person is in the dock

The possibilities are endless . . .  if you are intelligent enough  !

Bloody hell! I was eight months pregnant as well!

(Quite enjoyed it, though. Bit thick, me. Rather grateful for the time off work, too.  smug )
I rather enjoyed it, and the time off work too!

I think it is one of those things that everyone should experience given the opportunity.  I was a juror in a knife crime case, and felt proud that justice was done and that I had a say in it.
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Post by Cristobell 27.06.14 18:03

Enid O'Dowd wrote:In Ireland (maybe its not the same as in the Uk) you can legally evade jury service if you are a medical professional (not just a doctor but nurse, physio etc) or you get your boss to sign a letter to say you are too important to be spared. I wanted to do jury service but my then boss insisted I could not be spared, he was a difficult man so I did not argue and let him write a letter saying he needed me in the office.  I think I read somewhere that the current system in Ireland has to change as it is resulting in juries of the early retired, fulltime housewives whose children are not that young etc - not a jury of your peers as was the intention of juries.
I was proud to do it Enid, and I saw first hand that there is no opportunity to noble a jury!  I am not sure how juries are selected, but I spent many hours in a room with hundreds of other people, waiting to be called. 

It was such an interesting experience, spookily like Twelve Angry Men.  Of course, not all men these days, we were a very diverse group and our approach to the evidence presented was very much influenced by our personal beliefs.  But that is how society is made up, there will be representatives of the hang 'em and flog 'em as well as tree hugging freedom fighters.  I suppose that is why in the USA, the lawyers go through a jury selection process rejecting anyone that may be swayed by race, colour, political creed etc. [I only know this through films btw, so happy to be corrected]. 

The UK afaik, do not have such a system, but I felt we were a good representation of 'the people', various ages, backgrounds, professions and colour.  We all took it very seriously and wanted to do the best job we could do, fully aware that our decision would dramatically change a young person's life.  I would urge anyone to do it if given the opportunity, imo, it really is a once in a lifetime experience.
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Post by FrankS 04.07.14 10:25

18 Months in prison.
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Post by PeterMac 04.07.14 10:26

COULSON - 18 months
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Post by FrankS 04.07.14 10:29

The others - suspended sentences.

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Post by Guest 04.07.14 10:32

Coulson topic merged here Frank as verdict already posted by PeterMac
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Post by FrankS 04.07.14 10:58

Cameron "justice has been done and no one is above the law"

Next.

McCanns then.......
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Post by tiny 04.07.14 11:05

FrankS wrote:Cameron "justice has been done and no one is above the law"

Next.

McCanns then.......

If only we could believe what Cameron say.
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tiny wrote:
FrankS wrote:Cameron "justice has been done and no one is above the law"

Next.

McCanns then.......

If only we could believe what Cameron say.

How can justice have been done when the prosecution didn't call THE key witness with physical hard copy evidence?

It wasn't justice it was a travesty.

The people at the top stink.
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Post by Guest 07.07.14 19:23

Oh dear, it never rains but it pours.....


7 July 2014 Last updated at 18:56

Andy Coulson to face perjury charges over the Tommy Sheridan trial


Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson is to appear in court on 6 August to face perjury charges over the Tommy Sheridan trial.

Mr Coulson has been indicted to appear at the High Court in Glasgow.

The formal announcement follows his conviction in England last week on phone hacking charges.

Mr Coulson, 46, was charged two years ago after being questioned in Glasgow in connection with his evidence at the Tommy Sheridan trial in 2010.

It is understood officials at the Crown Office in Edinburgh were awaiting the outcome of his trial in England before announcing any action against him.

The Prime Minister's former director of communications was jailed for 18 months last week.

Mr Coulson was convicted at the Old Bailey in London of conspiring to intercept voicemails at the now-defunct tabloid after an eight-month trial.

Yesterday, a spokesman at the Crown Office said: "The Crown Office can confirm that an indictment was served on Andrew Coulson today, 7 July 2014 and that a preliminary hearing is scheduled for 6 August 2014 at the High Court at Glasgow."


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7 July 2014 Last updated at 18:56

Andy Coulson to face perjury charges over the Tommy Sheridan trial


Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson is to appear in court on 6 August to face perjury charges over the Tommy Sheridan trial.

Mr Coulson has been indicted to appear at the High Court in Glasgow.

The formal announcement follows his conviction in England last week on phone hacking charges.

Mr Coulson, 46, was charged two years ago after being questioned in Glasgow in connection with his evidence at the Tommy Sheridan trial in 2010.

It is understood officials at the Crown Office in Edinburgh were awaiting the outcome of his trial in England before announcing any action against him.

The Prime Minister's former director of communications was jailed for 18 months last week.

Mr Coulson was convicted at the Old Bailey in London of conspiring to intercept voicemails at the now-defunct tabloid after an eight-month trial.

Yesterday, a spokesman at the Crown Office said: "The Crown Office can confirm that an indictment was served on Andrew Coulson today, 7 July 2014 and that a preliminary hearing is scheduled for 6 August 2014 at the High Court at Glasgow."


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Post by Doug D 07.11.14 10:08

Oh what a surprise!
 
Missing: 3 million News International emails
 
All emails covering her period as editor removed after Rebekah Brooks changed company’s email deletion policy in 2010
 
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Three million emails at News International are missing after Rebekah Brooks changed the company’s email deletion policy, a jury heard.
Brooks ordered the change in June 2010, which resulted in a large quantity of emails being deleted, including those “covering her entire period as editor of the Sun”, Kingston crown court was told.
The issue of missing emails emerged as the prosecution completed its case in the trial of six Sun and former Sun journalists accused of making corrupt payments to public officials. All six deny the charges.
Oliver Glasgow, prosecuting, read out details of the email deletion as an “agreed fact” between parties at the trial. He told the jury it had resulted in a significant loss of emails. “Three million are missing,” he said. Some had been recovered from backups made by independent contractors “including evidence in this trial”.
Earlier, the jury was told that one journalist had used the phrase “senior police source” to dress up stories and aggrandise himself in the eyes of his bosses and readers. Jamie Pyatt, 51, told police he had never paid police officers and that the phrase “senior police source” was just a euphemism.
 
Continues…….
 
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Rebekah Brooks in new email mystery: Police were not given email showing former editor of The Sun signed off all payments, court told
The police chief in charge of one of Scotland Yard’s largest investigations, into alleged corrupt payments to public officials by Sun journalists, has claimed not to have seen an internal email stating all cash payments had to be approved by Rebekah Brooks.

Detective Superintendent Mark Kandiah was asked at Kingston Crown Court yesterday about an email dated April 2006 sent to senior executives by the newspaper’s managing editor, Graham Dudman, which stated: “With immediate effect, no cash payments to be made without Rebekah’s approval.”

The jury at the trial of six Sun journalists accused of paying public officials for confidential information was told by lawyers for Mr Dudman that the email had “literally surfaced in the last week”. Oliver Blunt QC asked: “I imagine you haven’t seen it?” Mr Kandiah, recently retired from the Met, replied: “No.”

Which rather changes the situation.
Might let the prosecution mount an appeal, though I rather doubt it would be in the interests of the public purse to do so.
Or a new prosecution for "pervert the course", or depending what she was asked, and what her replies were - for perjury ?
I could not possibly comment, obviously.
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Post by Guest 07.11.14 13:56

What possible use would deleting 3 million emails have for the person ordering their deletion?

Why would anyone give out such an order?

Is that not rather unusual?

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Rebekah Brooks in new email mystery: Police were not given email showing former editor of The Sun signed off all payments, court told
The police chief in charge of one of Scotland Yard’s largest investigations, into alleged corrupt payments to public officials by Sun journalists, has claimed not to have seen an internal email stating all cash payments had to be approved by Rebekah Brooks.

Detective Superintendent Mark Kandiah was asked at Kingston Crown Court yesterday about an email dated April 2006 sent to senior executives by the newspaper’s managing editor, Graham Dudman, which stated: “With immediate effect, no cash payments to be made without Rebekah’s approval.”

The jury at the trial of six Sun journalists accused of paying public officials for confidential information was told by lawyers for Mr Dudman that the email had “literally surfaced in the last week”. Oliver Blunt QC asked: “I imagine you haven’t seen it?” Mr Kandiah, recently retired from the Met, replied: “No.”

Which rather changes the situation.
Might let the prosecution mount an appeal, though I rather doubt it would be in the interests of the public purse to do so.
Or a new prosecution for "pervert the course", or depending what she was asked, and what her replies were - for perjury ?
I could not possibly comment, obviously.

Blimey - reading that whole Independent article, it seems that the whole of Operation Elveden was managed, not by the MET, but by Murdoch`s company MSC !

Murdoch has a lot to answer for, but is probably too powerful to ever be prosecuted.

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Rebekah Brooks in new email mystery: Police were not given email showing former editor of The Sun signed off all payments, court told
The police chief in charge of one of Scotland Yard’s largest investigations, into alleged corrupt payments to public officials by Sun journalists, has claimed not to have seen an internal email stating all cash payments had to be approved by Rebekah Brooks.

Detective Superintendent Mark Kandiah was asked at Kingston Crown Court yesterday about an email dated April 2006 sent to senior executives by the newspaper’s managing editor, Graham Dudman, which stated: “With immediate effect, no cash payments to be made without Rebekah’s approval.”

The jury at the trial of six Sun journalists accused of paying public officials for confidential information was told by lawyers for Mr Dudman that the email had “literally surfaced in the last week”. Oliver Blunt QC asked: “I imagine you haven’t seen it?” Mr Kandiah, recently retired from the Met, replied: “No.”

Which rather changes the situation.
Might let the prosecution mount an appeal, though I rather doubt it would be in the interests of the public purse to do so.
Or a new prosecution for "pervert the course", or depending what she was asked, and what her replies were - for perjury ?
I could not possibly comment, obviously.
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Post by fred c dobbs 07.11.14 14:18

Should scupper her chances of getting a job in USA:biggrin:
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