Re: WOW A MUST READ -Madeleine clues hidden for five years - Sunday Times Full article now on Page 1

by Guest 27.10.13 20:00

UK Justice Forum tweet to Clarence Mitchell.....

UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Can you explain why the e-fits produced 5 years ago with help from Martin Smith have only just been released by SY? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

by Okeydokey 27.10.13 20:00

sallypelt wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
StraightThinking wrote:
notlongnow wrote:I feel once any of this hits any of the red tops then you know the tide has changed.
Well it's in the Telegraph now
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WOW, the storm has hit with full force
By Ben Farmer

7:35PM GMT 27 Oct 2013

The evidence, including e-fits of a man seen carrying a child the night the toddler disappeared, was included in an intelligence report produced by a firm of former spies for her parents in 2008.

But the report was sidelined for five years by Gerry and Kate McCann because it was critical of people involved and would have caused a distraction if made public, The Sunday Times reported.

The team of hand-picked former MI5 agents was hired by the McCanns in the spring of 2008, 10 months after their daughter disappeared from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz.

A report they produced was “hypercritical” of the McCanns and their friends and the authors were threatened with legal action if it were ever published, the paper reported.

Its contents were kept secret until Scotland Yard detectives conducting a fresh review of the case contacted the author for a copy.

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The e-fits of the suspect formed the centrepiece of a Crimewatch appeal earlier this month that attracted more than 1,000 calls from the public.

The Find Madeleine fund said all information privately gathered during the search for Madeleine "has been fully acted upon where necessary" and passed on to Scotland Yard.

A spokesman for Scotland Yard, said: “Where we have been able to make massive steps forward is by drawing together all the material gathered to date, and reviewing it as a whole

That's good but we really need someone to blow on the tinder...before we get the media firestorm. Someone needs to ask some obvious questions. What were the anomalies? are NSY aware of the anomalies? Was Andy Redwood aware that the information had been suppressed for 5 years? Is it legal for lawyer firms to threaten legal action over release of information relevant to criminal investigations? Who did the Smiths originally say the person was?

by sallypelt 27.10.13 20:03

Okeydokey wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
StraightThinking wrote:
notlongnow wrote:I feel once any of this hits any of the red tops then you know the tide has changed.
Well it's in the Telegraph now
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
WOW, the storm has hit with full force
By Ben Farmer

7:35PM GMT 27 Oct 2013

The evidence, including e-fits of a man seen carrying a child the night the toddler disappeared, was included in an intelligence report produced by a firm of former spies for her parents in 2008.

But the report was sidelined for five years by Gerry and Kate McCann because it was critical of people involved and would have caused a distraction if made public, The Sunday Times reported.

The team of hand-picked former MI5 agents was hired by the McCanns in the spring of 2008, 10 months after their daughter disappeared from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz.

A report they produced was “hypercritical” of the McCanns and their friends and the authors were threatened with legal action if it were ever published, the paper reported.

Its contents were kept secret until Scotland Yard detectives conducting a fresh review of the case contacted the author for a copy.

Related Articles

Madeleine McCann: Portugese police reveal 'new lines of inquiry'
24 Oct 2013

Madeleine McCann: BBC viewers give detectives a suspect’s name
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15 Oct 2013

The e-fits of the suspect formed the centrepiece of a Crimewatch appeal earlier this month that attracted more than 1,000 calls from the public.

The Find Madeleine fund said all information privately gathered during the search for Madeleine "has been fully acted upon where necessary" and passed on to Scotland Yard.

A spokesman for Scotland Yard, said: “Where we have been able to make massive steps forward is by drawing together all the material gathered to date, and reviewing it as a whole
That's good but we really need someone to blow on the tinder...before we get the media firestorm. Someone needs to ask some obvious questions. What were the anomalies? are NSY aware of the anomalies? Was Andy Redwood aware that the information had been suppressed for 5 years? Is it legal for lawyer firms to threaten legal action over release of information relevant to criminal investigations? Who did the Smiths originally say the person was?

I have no doubt that SY knows all we know, and a lot more. The law works in silence

by susible 27.10.13 20:04

That's good but we really need someone to blow on the tinder...before we get the media firestorm. Someone needs to ask some obvious questions. What were the anomalies? are NSY aware of the anomalies? Was Andy Redwood aware that the information had been suppressed for 5 years? Is it legal for lawyer firms to threaten legal action over release of information relevant to criminal investigations? Who did the Smiths originally say the person was?

Oh I'm sure that all of those questions will be addressed, but I don't think that SY would divulge so much information during a crucial part of an investigation

by AndyB 27.10.13 20:05

garfy wrote:sorry if posted elsewhere

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You've linked to a one and a quarter hour Spanish news program, the headline of which appears to be a demonstration about cuts.

dontgetit

by Miraflores 27.10.13 20:12

With the news that The Telegraph has picked the story up, the tide has definitely turned.

by Mirage 27.10.13 20:13

Telegraph eh? This is gaining momentum. We're in a new ballpark.

I get the impression that smug Gerry McCann pontificating on press behaviour (always someone else's behaviour, isn't it?) really got editors' goats. There was that article in the Sun recently castigating the Mccanns for not mentioning the support and donations when they rounded on the newspaper industry at Leveson.

It's always just a matter of time before the McCanns hack people off. Oh the irony.

by Wolfgang 27.10.13 20:19

I'm normally a lurker, but avid reader of the excellent work documented on this forum. Today's development is marvellous, but it always needed one media outlet to take the plunge before others followed. I would have thought SY would now want to speak urgently to the McCanns to ask their side of today's story, to explain their actions in obstructing the investigations.

by garfy 27.10.13 20:24

AndyB wrote:
garfy wrote:sorry if posted elsewhere

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You've linked to a one and a quarter hour Spanish news program, the headline of which appears to be a demonstration about cuts.

...............but thre link still works for me ...

try here....

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by mt 27.10.13 20:28

Wolfgang wrote:I'm normally a lurker

Me too. Everyone is doing such a great job for Madeleine and I don't think it'll be long until Madeleine gets justice and I think that will be largely to all those who have campaigned long and hard for the last 6 1/2 years.

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Madeleine McCann: critical new evidence is from five-year-old suppressed report
Critical new evidence at the centre of the reinvigorated hunt for Madeleine McCann came from a suppressed report by ex-MI5 investigators.
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Madeleine McCann

By Ben Farmer
7:35PM GMT 27 Oct 2013

The evidence, including e-fits of a man seen carrying a child the night the toddler disappeared, was included in an intelligence report produced by a firm of former spies for her parents in 2008.
But the report was sidelined for five years by Gerry and Kate McCann because it was critical of people involved and would have caused a distraction if made public, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
The team of hand-picked former MI5 agents was hired by the McCanns in the spring of 2008, 10 months after their [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
A report they produced was “hypercritical” of the McCanns and their friends and the authors were threatened with legal action if it were ever published, the paper reported.
Its contents were kept secret until Scotland Yard detectives conducting a fresh review of the case contacted the author for a copy.
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by Saturdaygirl 27.10.13 20:30

Im really really hoping this does mean the tide is turning! pray2

by margaret 27.10.13 20:32

candyfloss wrote:UK Justice Forum tweet to Clarence Mitchell.....

UK Justice Forum ‏@Justice_forum [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Can you explain why the e-fits produced 5 years ago with help from Martin Smith have only just been released by SY? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Come on pinky, there has to be a 'wholly innocent explanation'. laughat

by AndyB 27.10.13 20:33

garfy wrote:
AndyB wrote:
garfy wrote:sorry if posted elsewhere

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You've linked to a one and a quarter hour Spanish news program, the headline of which appears to be a demonstration about cuts.

...............but thre link still works for me ...

try here....

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Thanks. That's *much* more interesting. It's a pity there's no image of the result of the superimposition but at least the press are seemingly open to alternative (by which I mean not pre-approved by TM) explanations

by sallypelt 27.10.13 20:35

Clarence Mitchell is far too busy tweeting about his forthcoming election.

by petunia 27.10.13 20:35

sorry i could be very wrong here but i thought the Barclay brothers were supporter's of the Mccanns so if ST and now the Telegraph are running with this story,it's not looking good for the fragrant couple is it.

by juliet 27.10.13 20:37

Just in passing: Katie Hopkins, always on This Morning for forthtright views, is tweeting with great pro ST gusto @ktHopkins saying bring it on!

by petunia 27.10.13 20:39

juliet wrote:Just in passing: Katie Hopkins, always on This Morning for forthtright views, is tweeting with great pro ST gusto @ktHopkins saying bring it on!

wow

by pulch 27.10.13 20:40

Wow Juliet she is!! Love her or hate her but she's got balls tonight!

by tiny 27.10.13 20:40

StraightThinking wrote:
notlongnow wrote:I feel once any of this hits any of the red tops then you know the tide has changed.
Well it's in the Telegraph now
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by divinetheswine 27.10.13 20:43

Just registered but have been avidly reading this site since watching CW! Apologies if this has been posted but The Suns scrolling banner seems to be leading with the rather sinister headline of Beasts on a Bus! It show 2 fellas pics and links them to the E-Fits! Seems far and away from The ST?

by StraightThinking 27.10.13 20:45

The Express getting in a new angle:

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"A RECONSTRUCTION by Portuguese detectives of key events on the day Madeleine McCann went missing has helped persuade the country's legal officials to re-open the case, we reveal today."

by petunia 27.10.13 20:46

:fingerscrossed fan

sorry i just couldn't resist

by **PeterMac** 27.10.13 20:51

"This is the McCanns present legal position"
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"I am now going to clap my hands.
Please stand back ! ! "

by petunia 27.10.13 20:53

PeterMac wrote:"This is the McCanns present legal position"
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"I am now going to clap my hands.
Please stand back ! ! "

by Karen Pinto 27.10.13 20:55

petunia wrote:
PeterMac wrote:"This is the McCanns present legal position"
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"I am now going to clap my hands.
Please stand back ! ! "

Excellent!! can I post on twitter??

by chillyheat 27.10.13 20:59

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What the Sun are saying...

by mt 27.10.13 21:02

The Sun have put one and one together and 4993658 again

Beasts on a bus
- Maddie suspects lured kids on board
- Monsters run out of town by angry dad
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Clues ... killer paedos Charles O'Neill and William Lauchlan

EXCLUSIVE
By GARY O’SHEA in Albir, Spain
Published: 22 hrs ago

TWO monsters probed over Madeleine McCann’s abduction prowled Spanish resorts for children in a battered red bus, says a former pal.
Killer paedos Charles O’Neill, 50, and William Lauchlan, 36, are feared to have lured kids on board with a puppy.

by Smokeandmirrors 27.10.13 21:05

Although, the Sun probably doesn't mention they are gay and only went for little boys. Evil monsters they are, this is probably a red herring.

by petunia 27.10.13 21:08

Karen Pinto wrote:
petunia wrote:
PeterMac wrote:"This is the McCanns present legal position"
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"I am now going to clap my hands.
Please stand back ! ! "

Excellent!! can I post on twitter??

LOL Karen with all the sh@t us trolls have had to put up with all these years i am sure Petermac wont mind.

by Silver Shuffle 27.10.13 21:12

divinetheswine wrote:Just registered but have been avidly reading this site since watching CW! Apologies if this has been posted but The Suns scrolling banner seems to be leading with the rather sinister headline of Beasts on a Bus! It show 2 fellas pics and links them to the E-Fits! Seems far and away from The ST?

think I read somewhere that they liked Little Boys... sad

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