Clarrie is in over-drive this week

by maebee 26.05.13 0:28

Here we go again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331016/Maddie-mystery-ex-soldier-camper-van-Police-contacted-Army-information-days-confirming-identified-new-persons-interest.html

McCann family also wants to speak to him about his whereabouts at the time of Madeline's disappearance

by bristow 26.05.13 0:34

Maddie mystery of ex-soldier and his camper van: Police contacted Army for information days before confirming they had identified new 'persons of interest'
While former guardsman Peter Verran has not been accused of any wrongdoing, the timing is significant
McCann family also wants to speak to him about his whereabouts at the time of Madeline's disappearance

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331016/Maddie-mystery-ex-soldier-camper-van-Police-contacted-Army-information-days-confirming-identified-new-persons-interest.html#ixzz2ULmy6Vkx

by ShuBob 26.05.13 0:59

But they claim they no longer employ PIs. Who will be speaking to him or have Gerry and Clarence teamed up to form their own detective agency?

by bristow 26.05.13 1:02

Oops, sorry I have started this topic too, perhaps admin could remove it please?

by ShuBob 26.05.13 1:02

So Hewlett is now out of the picture but Verran is in Clarrie is in over-drive this week 816671

by marconi 26.05.13 1:42

About david payne, "we were waiting foor something to happen"...

It is my opinion that he commented the MCanns being made arguidos, the PJ saying that Maddie died in the apartment which means that Tapas 7 became suspects of helping hiding a death.

suspects, not arguidos.

About the militair above: I hope it is true because in diminishes the amount of persons of interest.

can you imagine if Madeleine had disappeared in China? Populations and populations of interest?

by suzyjohnson 26.05.13 1:49

Yes, the SY have found another 'new' suspect, this time in the shape of a Peter Varens.

This one made himself known to Leicestershire police back in 2009 ( as already reported in the Daily Mail.)

I don't know how this review has cost millions, they could've just searched Daily Mail and McCann and found them all within half an hour for about £20.

So how many have we had so far? And how many left?

And, strangest of all, why are these new suspects appearing one a day in the paper?

by **tigger** 26.05.13 6:01

'A source close to the mcCanns' - hmm that used to be Philomena wasn't it? Then there is also 'a source close to the probe' who might that be then? The cleaner at SY's H.Q?

These daily salvos must be a preparation and a justification of SY passing the buck to Portugal. It's getting very boring.

Note to the editor:
a) keep oiling the spell checker, major misspelling in yesterday's headline is embarrassing.
b) if we're going to have a new revelation every day - why not make 'Maddie' news a regular feature and put it on the Coffee break page together with the sudoko and crossword puzzles - and horoscopes. A daily astrology section featuring one of the many involved in the whole affair should keep circulation up.

As to the next story - how about discovering a lost PI who last worked for the McCanns locked in a dank cellar in a hellish liar in say - North Wales?

by **PeterMac** 26.05.13 7:19

http://raymondhewlett.blogspot.com.es/2009/12/peter-verran-allegations-re-raymond.html

Peter Verran - Allegations re: Raymond Hewlett
12/15/2009 Posted by Winnower

The only source for the following allegations is Peter Verran, former Scots Guard who served in Northern Ireland. Peter Verran allegedly shared a Moroccan campsite with Hewlett between June and November 2007.

The following are the allegations made by Peter Verran regarding Raymond Hewlett:

HEWLETT'S VEHICLE (SOLE SOURCE: PETER VERRAN):
Verran claimed that Hewlett lied to police about vehicle he was driving at time Maddie went missing.
Verran claimed that Hewlett owned a white Mercedes van at the time, similar to one seen parked near the McCanns’ holiday apartment
Verran claimed that Hewlett told him he had parked his truck close to the complex, outside the McCann's holiday flat many times.
Verran quote: “He told me he owned a white Transit-type (van)… but swopped it for the Dodge when he left Portugal for Morocco.”

HEWLETT'S LOCATION (SOLE SOURCE: PETER VERRAN):
Verran claimed that Hewlett was in the vicinity of Praia de Luz when Maddie vanished
Verran claimed that Hewlett "had been to the holiday flat “many times”."
Verran claimed that Hewlett parked his van outside the McCann apartment (see above)
Verran claimed that Hewlett told him that he had been outside the holiday flat "many times" and parked his van close to the complex.
Verran claimed that Hewlett told him that he was in and around Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine disappeared in May 2007. (Note: Hewlett said he had not been to Praia da Luz since 2002)

HEWLETT'S OBSESSION WITH MADELEINE'S CASE (SOLE SOURCE: PETER VERRAN)
Verran claimed that Hewlett told him that he (Hewlett) had become obsessed with and was fixated on the case

HEWLETT'S CLAIM THAT GIPSIES WANTED TO BUY HIS DAUGHTER (SOURCE: PETER VERRAN AND ALAN & CINDY THOMPSON)
Verran claimed that : "He (Hewlett) told me gipsies wanted to pay good money for her and he'd met some who traded in children and sold them to paedophiles.""

1 RESPONSES TO "PETER VERRAN - ALLEGATIONS RE: RAYMOND HEWLETT"
Anonymous said...
I knew Peter Verran very well some years ago as a personal friend.
Like Hewlett he served in the Scots Guards and like Hewlett is has been in prison, Exeter several times and Dartmoor around 1988. He was well know back then to Plymouth Police and has convictions for violence and possibly drugs-related offences as well as he was a registered Heroin addict.
Pete and myself drifted apart, whenever I went out with him there was trouble and it started to affect my life. He might well have changed but back then was a very violent and aggressive person who many regretted crossing the path of.
Why was he in Morocco? With regard to libel laws he once told me why he commuted back and forth, let's just say it was connected to a less than legal import business. To Pete that didn't seem anything wrong, just the kind of life he led.
Would I trust his word on anything? I did and it cost me money, lesson learnt and I moved on, others have had similar experiences. Sadly I'd trust Pete as far as I could throw him, and he's a big, strong man so that's not far and I doubt I'd survive anyway, I'd go as far as to call him dangerous.

Nov 24, 2012, 6:30:00 AM

A very very old story.
But wouldn't you love to see Mitchell interview him !

by Smokeandmirrors 26.05.13 7:24

Nice to see Exeter mentioned again….was beginning to wonder where it had gone!

by plebgate 26.05.13 7:39

Bank Holiday dung.

by aiyoyo 26.05.13 7:44

ShuBob wrote:But they claim they no longer employ PIs. Who will be speaking to him or have Gerry and Clarence teamed up to form their own detective agency?

Since when the law in this land allows the name and photo of innocent people to be plastered on the front page when the man is not even arrested!I If I were that man I would sue the mccanns, especially if he's a pauper and get legal aid and has nothing to lose. He should sue the Mccanns off their pants; and if not the McSpins, then the DM for having victimising him.

It's a disgrace that Papers are allowed to get away with such shoddy work, misleading the public into believing parents of missing child can take it onto themselves to interview any Tom Dick and Harry they victimised? Interviewing are the perogative of law enforcers and rightfully when person is not arrested any interview should be done on the quiet behind the scenes and the person should not be named or have his picture plastered all over front page.

For the Papers to pander to the Mccanns' Propaganda Machinery, putting in print that the "once upon a time suspects - not exonerated yet" wanted to interview identified person/s this is an international joke. Who gives them that right? The Police, the Law, or the Press? At this rate it seems the Papers are giving the McPorkies the right to spin every which way they desire and you have to question why are the Press is doing that?

One can't miss the obvious that Hamish Campbell's stupid statement of 20 potential suspects (a hugh number BTW 6 years after the crime) gives the Mccanns PR Machinery ammunition to spin and the this has a pink hue to it. Mccanns propaganda is not the surprise bit, rather the Press continual pandering to them is the shocking bit, and you are left with the question why - what is going on? Don't the Press having more newsworthy items to sell papers?

by Guest 26.05.13 9:21

Half an hour ago I saw only one comment, but that one seems to have disappeared ...

Elaine Scanlan

8:50 AM on 26/5/2013
The
case should be re-opened, starting with a reconstruction of the events
that involves the McCann's and their friends. And the British press
could also start reporting the facts of this case, from the police
files, not this sort of pointless speculation.

by Guest 26.05.13 9:49

Just a couple of comments that say it all......

Aren't we paying millions pf pounds for a team of Scotland Yard detectives to review this case? If so, why are the McCanns wanting to speak to witnesses? That's the police's job, they should be leaving them to it
- Observer , England, United Kingdom, 26/5/2013 07:41

This should not be public knowledge!! This is a mans LIFE!!
- holly , dublin, 26/5/2013 07:06

This man could be totally innocent of anything- so why is his name plastered over the media - name him if he is charged otherwise an innocent man has his life ruined- that is not justice!
- Charles , Herts, 26/5/2013 07:02

by Guest 26.05.13 9:50

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t6040-40-questions-and-answers-about-how-alan-cindy-thompson-and-peter-verran-helped-the-McCann-team-to-generate-stories-trying-to-connect-paedophile-Raymond-Hewlett-with-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann

Round and round we go - when nobody can think up a new daft story, regurgitate an old one.

by pennylane 26.05.13 9:52

Châtelaine wrote:Half an hour ago I saw only one comment, but that one seems to have disappeared ...

Elaine Scanlan

8:50 AM on 26/5/2013
The
case should be re-opened, starting with a reconstruction of the events
that involves the McCann's and their friends. And the British press
could also start reporting the facts of this case, from the police
files, not this sort of pointless speculation.

Hi Châtelaine,

That very sensible comment is on the Mirror article, and is still there...

Madeleine McCann: Monster who killed lookalike is linked by police - Mirror Online

by Guest 26.05.13 10:08

Thank you, pennylane. Yes, I was mixing up 2 papers and 2 nonsense articles. Must be age ....

by pennylane 26.05.13 10:13

Châtelaine wrote:Thank you, pennylane. Yes, I was mixing up 2 papers and 2 nonsense articles. Must be age ....

No, it has nothing to do with age, it's down to the endless regurgitation of the same out crap! Clarrie is in over-drive this week 110921

by Monty Heck 26.05.13 10:20

One commenter posted this reply, "sorry mate, this is old news". I don't recall this particular one but does anyone know whether this is another reahash of an old story? Full of the usual unsubstantiated innuendo, today's smearing of a live individual not a safely dead man who did commit a crime, is highly irresponsible and extremely hypocritical, emanating from those ardent supporters of Hacked Off.

So he had a white van stolen "within months of Madeleine's disappearance", so "he had been in Portugal". The van could have been stolen anywhere, he could have been in the Algarve 10 years or 10 months before M went missing. So he didn't tell the McTectives his van had been stolen or that he had been in Portugal but perhaps he was not asked if he had been there or the van theft was irrelevant as it was taken nowhere near PDL. They admit "it is not known what the former soldier told police" so he could have made these disclosures to SY but seems it is worth smearing Verran's reputation so long as a link can be made to Hewlett, however tenuous and obviously ruled out since the police have taken no action after probing Verran several weeks ago.

McSpin is plumbing new depths these days, apparently exploiting the progress updates the family are being given by SY which are surely meant to be for their private information, not for regurgitation to the media or to rehash old news for a headline. The only silver lining is the revelation that the information being given by SY is not as detailed as the Team would have us think, as this highly speculative article clearly demonstrates.

by suzyjohnson 26.05.13 12:07

Monty Heck, from what I can see Verrans himself approached the police, Portuguese and British, several years ago to tell them about conversations he had had with Hewlett (who had been living on the same campsite as him in summer 2007)

by jeanmonroe 26.05.13 12:57

If Verran has nothing to do with this shouldn't he be suing the McCanns for 'reputational' damages?
They are quick enough to!
I definitely WOULD!

Maybe he could get Carter Fruck to do it 'pro bono'!

by ShuBob 26.05.13 13:45

It looks like the Mail have decided to name-a-suspect-a-day until they go through the twenty or so suspects they claim the MET are looking at. Towards the end of their exercise, they should be left with the McCanns and their friends. Let's see.

by **PeterMac** 26.05.13 14:27

Nice thought.
So far each one can be discounted immediately as an old story, already covered by the press years ago.
And they ARE ALLOWING the comments which point this out , and letting the comments section develop acordingly.
OK, sometimes after a short interval of only allowing proTM and anti Portuguese ones, but you see the point I am making.
And then they printed the Moyes / Fenn thing "proving gross neglect over at least 2 previous evenings.
I tend to agree with you. The noose is being tightened and poor old Mitchell can't think fast enough.
Clarrie is in over-drive this week Noosesy2

Clarrie is in over-drive this week Noosesy2

by Cristobell 26.05.13 14:33

I think these stories are blurring the issue. The real question is, have they asked for the case to be re-opened? That was the goal from the beginning and SY themselves released the good news that they had found 20 or so, credible new leads. Martin Brunt flies out to PDL and we are led to believe there will be a big announcement. SY would be asking the Portuguese to re-open the case.

And there it ended. We don't know if SY asked that question. We don't know if the Portuguese replied. The Portuguese have their own review, have they yet reached a conclusion? Everything is now dependent on the case re-opening and the only ones who can prevent that would the main protagonists.

by lufc50337 26.05.13 15:07

This circus is just ridiculous, it's been 6 years and IMO I'm 99.9% sure that the McCanns know what happened to M.

Somebody involved needs to grow a set and tell the truth, it just seems a game sometimes and that's wrong when it's about a child's life.

The best hope of the truth coming out is with GA IMO who is doing it the right way through the courts it's just taking a long long time.

I think whatever the missing piece is it is shocking otherwise the truth would have leaked out earlier but nobody dare be the one to first say, so they must be very fearful of the consequences.

If it is was mutual sedation of their children that had created the original pact that to me isn't enough for it to be carried on as that could now not be proved and somebody could say it was misguided loyalty only that drove them if they really wanted to end this without losing their own careers and children. As they've mostly proved they're not adverse to lying about a missing child so I don't think lying about sedation would be a deal breaker to coming forward.

by pennylane 26.05.13 16:00

The entire McCann farce has gone so far off the charts of believability, that it's literally begging for the authorities to bust it wide open!

by aiyoyo 26.05.13 16:08

ShuBob wrote:It looks like the Mail have decided to name-a-suspect-a-day until they go through the twenty or so suspects they claim the MET are looking at. Towards the end of their exercise, they should be left with the McCanns and their friends. Let's see.

The thing is: in spite of Hamish Campbell unnecessary proclamation I don't think the MET were feeding the Press.

This recent resurgence of old stories - what with the dead child-snatcher and then this army guy - are just spins.
Even with the 6 Brit cleaners thrown in for good measure for the countdown of the 20 potential suspects, we will never arrive at four couples plus one old woman or finally down to just the odious pair for obvious reason that the recent spike of stories are just pink regurgitates through and through.

The only positive of this pink regurgitates may be they were not kept informed of the Review by the MET as they would have us believed. There is no valid reason whatsoever for MET to have kept them informed on operational matters for obvious reason.
Even had they been in touch with MET and MET were obliged to reply, at most they would have gotten standard general reply with no value.

There is no indication in Campbell's statement that MET were looking at abduction.
There was absolutely no mention of the 195 fresh leads that the Mccanns claimed Police were investigating.
Effectively Campbell was calling the Mccanns bluff; and they knew it.

by aiyoyo 26.05.13 16:42

pennylane wrote:The entire McCann farce has gone so far off the charts of believability, that it's literally begging for the authorities to bust it wide open!

Sadly,I dont think any authority will do that, not in the imminent future anyway.
HC's penultimate Review Closure statement is sign that the MET found no substantive evidence for Portuguese Judiciary to justify the re opening. Thus, IMO the re-opening is not going to happen, NOT on the MET 20 potential suspects statement anyway.
At best it is good for elimination process and not does not constitute new substantive evidence, good and valid enough for a feasible reopening that would lead to the arrest and charge of the Maddie's perpetrators.

Unless the reopen will lead to prosecution of someone/s no authority will entertain such an expensive exercise on a flimsy excuse the MET had come up with recently. If included in the MET 'handful of suspects' were the eventual main players as people seem to believe then there IMO there is no need for MET to have made the announcement as they did. They only have to wait till the Portuguese reopens the case officially to make any kind of announcement. To have it successfully officially reopened first, then to announce they were looking at a handful of suspects, then it would make sense to believe they were going for the kill. But, not when it is the other way round. Just my opinion anyway.

by pennylane 26.05.13 18:03

aiyoyo wrote:
pennylane wrote:The entire McCann farce has gone so far off the charts of believability, that it's literally begging for the authorities to bust it wide open!

Sadly,I dont think any authority will do that, not in the imminent future anyway.
HC's penultimate Review Closure statement is sign that the MET found no substantive evidence for Portuguese Judiciary to justify the re opening. Thus, IMO the re-opening is not going to happen, NOT on the MET 20 potential suspects statement anyway.
At best it is good for elimination process and not does not constitute new substantive evidence, good and valid enough for a feasible reopening that would lead to the arrest and charge of the Maddie's perpetrators.

Unless the reopen will lead to prosecution of someone/s no authority will entertain such an expensive exercise on a flimsy excuse the MET had come up with recently. If included in the MET 'handful of suspects' were the eventual main players as people seem to believe then there IMO there is no need for MET to have made the announcement as they did. They only have to wait till the Portuguese reopens the case officially to make any kind of announcement. To have it successfully officially reopened first, then to announce they were looking at a handful of suspects, then it would make sense to believe they were going for the kill. But, not when it is the other way round. Just my opinion anyway.

I agree with you, aiyoyo, it isn't going to happen... and it appears Operation Grange are hell bent on looking everywhere but at the two perpetrators from Rothley, whose version of events is riddled with red flags, supported full force by the CSI blood and cadaver dog alerts. No legitimate investigation would ignore these alarm bells, or Jane Tanner's ultra-dodgy dual sighting.

My hope is that someone will step out of the shadows and blindside the bloody lot of them! I feel the Mc's have not been able to cover their tracks sufficiently to rest easy, and I sense paranoia in much of their actions. I suppose that gives me a modicum of hope for the future.

by Guest 26.05.13 18:27

Clarrie is in over-drive this week 847771

Maman, my own little Miss Marple, has predicted that it's only a matter of time that someone will step out off line and spill the marbles to get a peace of mind ...