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The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

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The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by jd on 20.05.12 3:48

The McCanns curious behaviour, as witnessed by Inspector Ricardo Paiva, 03 September 2007

Processos Vol X
Pages 2533 - 2534

Date: 2007/09/03

For : Goncalo Amaral

From Ricardo Paiva, Inspector

Subject: Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

During the course of the ongoing investigation, various personal contacts were made by the undersigned with Kate and Gerald McCann, within my task of serving as communication element between the police and the McCann couple.

Within this context, the undersigned was present during various "strange" behaviours by the couple, who gradually began to react in a very negative manner to the increased investigative activity carried out by this police force, especially during the use of the English sniffer dogs for detecting cadaver odour, when more evidence arose in the investigation for the hypothesis of the death of Madeleine McCann.

Several times, the McCann couple said that the attention of the police should be maintained focussing on the abduction hypothesis, which, in the couple's opinion, was the only scenario that occurred and that the police should not forget to continue to investigate the suspect Robert Murat.

Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5ª of the Ocean Club, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl.

Today, when the undersigned went to the McCann's temporary residence to notify them of the need to present themselves at the police station to make statements, being able to take their lawyer with them, Kate McCann immediately reacted in a negative manner, making comments such as "what are my parents going to think" and "what is the press going to say when they find out" and that "the Portuguese police is under pressure from the government to finish the investigation quickly".

With regard to Gerald McCann, he constantly insisted in giving the undersigned letters and emails that he was receiving, mostly from psychics and mediums, whom he had selected and which mainly contained information without much credibility about the possible whereabouts of Madeleine and her presumed abductor.

More recently, and even before Kate's interrogation, during a telephone call between Gerald McCann and the undersigned, he made a reference regarding the investigation, that he was certain that the police did not have any proof that could incriminate them with regard to the death of Madeleine McCann and he said that the police were wasting their time in directing the investigation around the parents.

I bring this to your knowledge.
Inspector
Ricardo Paiva

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Intercalary report compiled by chief inspector Tavares de Almeida, for the attention of the Criminal Investigation Coordinator, 10 September 2007

........the media suggested the possibility that the children could have been sedated to be kept asleep and allow the parents some rest.

Distant in time, Kate’s father, the grandfather of the child, Brian Healy, admits to the press that Kate could have administered some medication to the little girl, Calpol, to help the child (the children??) to sleep, contrary to what his daughter Kate has been stating.

Kate, through the PJ inspector that acted as “liaison” with the family, asked why samples weren’t taken from the twins in order to test that hypothesis. She knew well enough at that time, more than 3 months later, that such an exam would be worthless.

She went even further and said that we – the investigation – should verify that the abductor had sedated Madeleine, in order to accomplish his action and that he had also sedated the twins…to consummate the act…however she didn’t say that at the right moment.

What we certainly know is that the sedatives have timings to act and timings to be expelled, that vary between six and 200 hours.

The McCanns’ medical knowledge is enough to know this, even if their professional activity never included performing toxicology exams.

When the media informed that blood had been detected “in the car and in the apartment”, Kate and members of her family come to the public with the simple excuse that it had been someone, who had access to the apartment, that had placed the evidence.

Now they even admit it was the criminal investigation body that placed the “false” evidence (blood and cadaver odour in the apartment and in the car).

In an attempt to justify the blood, Kate went even further, informing, on that occasion, that Madeleine sometimes suffered nosebleeds.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id315.html
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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by friedtomatoes on 20.05.12 7:10

the british liason officers were asked by the mccanns on 5th may to ask the PJ if they knew there were any signs, evidence that drugs had been used, roll on three months later and they ask for tests? they should have taken their twins to a hospital but they didnt. Says it all.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JIM_McGARVEY.htm
last paragraph

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by jd on 20.05.12 13:26

"Gerry and Kate also questioned whether there was any suggestion that pointed to the use of drugs to facilitate Madeleine's abduction."....I think this says it all

These reports from Ricardo Paiva back in 2007 show 2 things that we can see 5 years later in 2012

1. They are pushing only and only the abduction theory...backed up by the SY inquiry with its official remit "as if the abduction happened in the UK".

2. gerry mccann pushing and insisting on 'mediums and physics'...SY inquiry very recently saying they are taking mediums and physics seriously and then the following Sun stories
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Post by marconi on 07.08.13 1:07

The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by tigger on 07.08.13 6:19

@marconi wrote:The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

 That is a curious way of reasoning imo. 

It can equally well mean that they knew there was no proof of guilt on Murat's part. It would take the heat of them whilst Murat was perfectly safe.

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by PeterMac on 07.08.13 8:09

@marconi wrote:The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

I don't follow you. Can you explain ?

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by russiandoll on 07.08.13 8:24

I think perhaps marconi is referring to "look over there" tactic which might have been applied while "over here "a person or persons/ were was engaged in some activity which was far from innocent.   A ref maybe to a time when police would be busy following that lead. What activities were McCann and co involved in whilst a spotlight was shone on RM?

 Imo RM was used and enabled certain things, I do not believe he was involved in anything to do with Maddie's demise. I believe that he might have allowed one or both McCann/s to use Casa L for privacy and that maybe on the premises contact was made with others involved in the cover up and removal of M's body.  Perhaps he was naïve enough to have allowed people in the group use of his landline. Just a thought.

 The title of this thread makes me think about a news item on now, that dolphins can remember other dolphins after as long as 20 years, be they friends or enemies, it has been established by scientists, marine biologists I guess, who have studied their reactions and noises made when long departed dolphins return home.

 Not so much curious behaviour, but fascinating and as always with these amazing creatures,  rather wonderful.

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Post by marconi on 07.08.13 9:11

@PeterMac wrote:
@marconi wrote:The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

I don't follow you.  Can you explain ?

 Peter Mac, if Murat had helped the McCanns,  having being involved in the crime, the parents would have protected him because he could  tell the truth to the police.

Pointing to him proofs he is innocent.

I wrote "ultime" instead of "real". Sorry

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by Smokeandmirrors on 07.08.13 9:13

@marconi wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@marconi wrote:The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

I don't follow you.  Can you explain ?

 Peter Mac, if Murat had helped the McCanns,  having being involved in the crime, the parents would have protected him because he could  tell the truth to the police.

Pointing to him proofs he is innocent.

I wrote "ultime" instead of "real". Sorry

 But he wouldn't have ratted on them would he, unless he wanted to land himself in jail too.

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by PeterMac on 07.08.13 9:27

@marconi wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@marconi wrote:The McCanns asking to investigate Murat is the ultime proof that he is innocent.
They would never have pointed to him, if he would have been involved in the crime.

I don't follow you.  Can you explain ?
 Peter Mac, if Murat had helped the McCanns,  having being involved in the crime, the parents would have protected him because he could  tell the truth to the police.
Pointing to him proofs he is innocent.
I wrote "ultime" instead of "real". Sorry

I think I understand that.
But this only works if the McCanns AND Murat are guilty of a crime.
If the McCanns are NOT guilty, (except for the worst form of Child neglect, of course)
then Murat might have been part of something that did take place.
In which case pointing at him might be the right thing to do.

If you see what I mean !

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Post by marconi on 07.08.13 16:50

who can help me finding a video of May the 13th 2011, where Gerry thanks Cameron for involving the Met police in the case?

something like "mccanns defend"

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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by sallypelt on 07.08.13 17:18

@marconi wrote:who can help me finding a video of May the 13th 2011, where Gerry thanks Cameron for involving the Met police in the case?

something like "mccanns defend"

I don't know if this is of help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK53moq9_aY

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Post by marconi on 08.08.13 1:32

@sallypelt wrote:
@marconi wrote:who can help me finding a video of May the 13th 2011, where Gerry thanks Cameron for involving the Met police in the case?

something like "mccanns defend"

I don't know if this is of help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK53moq9_aY

 Thank you, sallypelt, I did not know that video . Very interesting and he wants to become a politician. I wonder if he is one of the 38 people.
Imo he will try to escape before trial starts. He must know the truth.
I wonder over and over again what the truth will do to de siblings. Who will tell them.
What a mess!

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Post by marconi on 08.08.13 14:06

Can any of you explain me if 15.13 DNA marks are enough for proof in court, in the UK?

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Post by aquila on 08.08.13 14:21

@marconi wrote:Can any of you explain me if 15.13 DNA marks are enough for proof in court, in the UK?
Perhaps if you look on the search facility on the forum you will find a lot of information for you to read, digest and form your own opinion. Many people on this forum have spent hours and hours reading the research and opinions of other members. It really does help to do this to get a well balanced view on things.

mccanfiles is the best place to search for specific things.
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Re: The McCanns Curious Behaviour- Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Post by tigger on 08.08.13 15:26

@marconi wrote:Can any of you explain me if 15.13 DNA marks are enough for proof in court, in the UK?
 I believe it was 15 out of twenty or nineteen. Yes it's enough for a UK court as indeed is the evidence of alerts by cadaver and blood dogs.

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Post by marconi on 08.08.13 16:48

@tigger wrote:
@marconi wrote:Can any of you explain me if 15.13 DNA marks are enough for proof in court, in the UK?
 I believe it was 15 out of twenty or nineteen. Yes it's enough for a UK court as indeed is the evidence of alerts by cadaver and blood dogs.
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