Re: Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people

by Mirage 14.11.13 11:14

worriedmum wrote:Thank you Mirage. That's two of us then.

You are very welcome. x

by Guest 14.11.13 11:16

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Just to avoid confusion with language differences Chatelaine - for "panties" please everyone read "tights".

Panties are knickers - if you'll pardon the expression!

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Tights, of course. Thanks for correcting me. It is one of the disadvantages of speaking 5 languages [they're called "panties" in Dutch] . Anyway, if she'd been clever, with that outfit she'd been wearing black panties too yes

by ShuBob 14.11.13 11:35

sofieellis wrote:I can't believe what I'm seeing. That Natasha Law image is incredibly disturbing. It shows a very young girl, in a submissive pose, shoulders slumped in misery, and wearing next to nothing. Who the heck would want that in their house? Why on earth would a charity that is supposed to be fighting for missing, vulnerable people condone such an image? It's sick

This is even before you add the convicted child sex offender Pete Townshend into the equation.

It's beyond sick!

by tiny 14.11.13 13:52

Nereid wrote:HuffPostUK Pic Desk ‏@HuffPostUKPics [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Kate McCann arrives at the Missing People gala dinner in London tonight [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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At least she didn't get a new frock.

looks like a wanted poster
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by columbostogeys 14.11.13 16:24

PeterMac wrote:Perhaps they were age-enhanced images, and we have all failed to understand.

"Madeleine, as she might look, aged 10. With her back to her abuser and in a typically submissive posture, not looking forward to what is about to happen"
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"Madeleine, as she might look after 6 years in the sun in Morocco with a childless couple.
For religious reasons she is wearing a modern teenage version of the burkha"
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AND KATE ENDORSES THIS. So that's all right then.

Is that what the photos are about?

Jesus. The one at 10 well her body is far too mature for a 10 year old anyway.

Its all pure sex exploitation nothing more nothing less. It looks more like a photo of a pedophile rings brochure.... And Kate is endorsing this? I am beginning to worry about her mental health.

by Guest 14.11.13 16:35

The lower picture was originally shot by Richard Avedon, wasn't it?

So someone wised up and covered de models head in order to 'spruce up' the picture?

Wonder what Avedons estate guarding the property right thinks of this

by **Enid O'Dowd** 14.11.13 18:01

Some earlier posters have made comments on the Missing People accounts for the year ended 31 March 2013 which I think are a little misleading. There’s a lot of information given in the audited accounts on the Missing People website.

Note 4 Staff costs on page 19 gives interesting information.

Somebody complained that salaries increased by over £150,000 over the previous year.

Yes they did, but their paid staff increased from 46 to 50. It’s possible that the staff are on incremental salary scales so salaries would go up even if staff numbers remained the same.

Note 4 states that no employee earned above £60,000 in the year which means that the CEOs salary is, at the most, £60,000. It also states that in the previous year one person earned £70,000 -£80,000 so either the CEO took a pay cut or the old one left and they took on a replacement for less.

The Trustees (directors) do not get any payment. One director received £222 travelling expenses in the year. It is normal to refund directors of charities their out of pocket expenses

by Lance De Boils 14.11.13 18:10

Just to be clear: this is not the actual picture being auctioned.
This one is called "Back in Yellow"

The one being auctioned, "Blue Black" is not shown, as it was commissioned especially and was not complete when the prize list was put together.

The caption reads, "Actual piece still in progress at time of going to print, work shown is detail of "Back in Yellow."

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by Smokeandmirrors 14.11.13 18:15

Lance De Boils wrote:Just to be clear: this is not the actual picture being auctioned.
This one is called "Back in Yellow"

The one being auctioned, "Blue Black" is not shown, as it was commissioned especially and was not complete when the prize list was put together.

The caption reads, "Actual piece still in progress at time of going to print, work shown is detail of "Back in Yellow."

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Thanks for the info LdB.

This "charity" and their crass sticking-two-fingers up with their choices, aside from this one, sicken me. Too many dubious/questionable people in their rogues gallery too. Fancy being associated with someone who was on the sex offenders register for FIVE YEARS???

ARE THEY MAD????

by ShuBob 14.11.13 18:16

Thanks for the info LDB but was that the most appropriate picture to use in place of the unfinished work?

For me, the pictures are bad enough but to include anything to do with the CONVICTED child sex abuser Pete Townshend is inexcusable in my opinion!

ETA: I see Smokeandmirrors and myself have made the exact same point!

by sofieellis 14.11.13 18:22

Natasha Law's pictures are all pretty similar:

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I don't think any of them are appropriate for such a charity.

by worriedmum 14.11.13 18:35

sofieellis wrote:Natasha Law's pictures are all pretty similar:

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I don't think any of them are appropriate for such a charity.

I totally agree sofieellis. I showed the picture to my 16 year old daughter, but explained that this was not the actual picture-that was to be called 'Blue black'. She immediately connected the title and type of imaging to bruising/physical abuse.
I really think that at the very least this is a case of 'Emperor's New Clothes'. If these paintings had been produced by a man, wouldn't they feel less 'hip' and slightly more worrying?

by Smokeandmirrors 14.11.13 18:39

sofieellis wrote:Natasha Law's pictures are all pretty similar:

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I don't think any of them are appropriate for such a charity.

No they're not. She's creating art for people with the aim of it being voyeuristic into private domestic times, in a sort of weird androgenous/naivety which in itself reveals something of the inner mindset as it's largely focused on pulling up/down knickers.

As a theme at a missing person fundraiser, where presumably there is an overlapping issue of young people going off and ending up exploited, often in a debasing and sexual way oh well that's OK then, because the fragrant McCann woman has had far worse images rampaging through that empty space between her ears, and there is always a convicted voyeur of unsavoury images to to critique the art.

Whole bloody thing is enough to make you retch.

by Lance De Boils 14.11.13 19:01

Other examples of this artist's work, many with a similar theme.
Three more here:

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"Untitled Blue"

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"Untitled Pink"

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"Hitch"

I personally do not think that this artist's work is appropriate for auctioning at a "Missing People" charity gala.

by Liz Eagles 14.11.13 19:10

Smokeandmirrors wrote:
sofieellis wrote:Natasha Law's pictures are all pretty similar:

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I don't think any of them are appropriate for such a charity.
No they're not. She's creating art for people with the aim of it being voyeuristic into private domestic times, in a sort of weird androgenous/naivety which in itself reveals something of the inner mindset as it's largely focused on pulling up/down knickers.

As a theme at a missing person fundraiser, where presumably there is an overlapping issue of young people going off and ending up exploited, often in a debasing and sexual way oh well that's OK then, because the fragrant McCann woman has had far worse images rampaging through that empty space between her ears, and there is always a convicted voyeur of unsavoury images to to critique the art.

Whole bloody thing is enough to make you retch.

On the homepage of Missing People they proudly present (amongst others) 'Our Partners'....

ACPOS, ACPO and CEOP.

How many of our senior boys in blue turned up to that gala to endorse this charity?

by worriedmum 14.11.13 19:19

I agree about the retching. One of the images on the website is of a naked little girl. Seen in context with the rest of these pictures, you have to ask when does something stop being of questionable taste and become something rather more worrying.

by Daisy 14.11.13 19:27

Lance De Boils wrote:Other examples of this artist's work, many with a similar theme.
Three more here:

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"Untitled Blue"

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"Untitled Pink"

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"Hitch"

I personally do not think that this artist's work is appropriate for auctioning at a "Missing People" charity gala.

Not in my opinion either. I'm no heathen when it comes to 'Art' and of course it's subjective, but it doesn't feel suitable for a charity highlighting the plight of missing people (many of them children).

Not to mention, her work is pretty sh*te!

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by Guest 14.11.13 19:35

Enid O'Dowd wrote:Some earlier posters have made comments on the Missing People accounts for the year ended 31 March 2013 which I think are a little misleading. There’s a lot of information given in the audited accounts on the Missing People website.

Note 4 Staff costs on page 19 gives interesting information.

Somebody complained that salaries increased by over £150,000 over the previous year.

Yes they did, but their paid staff increased from 46 to 50. It’s possible that the staff are on incremental salary scales so salaries would go up even if staff numbers remained the same.

Note 4 states that no employee earned above £60,000 in the year which means that the CEOs salary is, at the most, £60,000. It also states that in the previous year one person earned £70,000 -£80,000 so either the CEO took a pay cut or the old one left and they took on a replacement for less.

The Trustees (directors) do not get any payment. One director received £222 travelling expenses in the year. It is normal to refund directors of charities their out of pocket expenses

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Forgive me and with all respect, Mrs. O'Dowd, but ... who are these fifty employees? And what exactly are they doing? Maintaining a flimsy website? Supporting families, whereas we have witness accounts, how they fail in doing that? The way I've perceived it so far, is that the major part of the money goes to top executives and the programme relies mainly on volunteers. I would be most happy to be corrected in my views roses

by Guest 14.11.13 19:36

worriedmum wrote:I agree about the retching. One of the images on the website is of a naked little girl. Seen in context with the rest of these pictures, you have to ask when does something stop being of questionable taste and become something rather more worrying.

It says "It is her protracted process which creates the vibrancy in her works"

B******s. I bet she could knock out fifty a day if she had a mind to. They actually remind me of home made internet porn circa 1995. Or maybe that's the point and I'm some kind of philistine. It's probably meant to be "ironic". Or something.

by worriedmum 14.11.13 20:25

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
worriedmum wrote:I agree about the retching. One of the images on the website is of a naked little girl. Seen in context with the rest of these pictures, you have to ask when does something stop being of questionable taste and become something rather more worrying.
It says "It is her protracted process which creates the vibrancy in her works"

B******s. I bet she could knock out fifty a day if she had a mind to. They actually remind me of home made internet porn circa 1995. Or maybe that's the point and I'm some kind of philistine. It's probably meant to be "ironic". Or something.

''Or maybe that's the point and I'm some kind of philistine. It's probably meant to be "ironic". Or something.''

Yes that's how you are meant to feel. Only un-cool people complain...DER! And BTW, how would you like to pay... :bad:

by Lance De Boils 14.11.13 20:39

About the artist, Natasha Law, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

A few snippets (my red):

Born in south London in 1970, Natasha Law is the older sister of the actor Jude Law. An artist trained at Camberwell College, she is renowned for using household paints to create predominantly erotic images, and has illustrated books including Camilla Morton's How to Walk in High Heels: the Girl's Guide to Everything.

If I have time to myself: I go running for 45mins – any longer and I start to feel guilty about everything else I should be doing.

At night I dream of: buildings with lots of staircases, losing children, exhibitions I've forgotten to paint any pictures for – the usual.

My favourite work of art: At the moment it's Lily (with black eye) by Ryan McGinley.

The best invention ever: anaesthetic.

Here's Lily (with black eye):

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by **PeterMac** 14.11.13 20:44

It all looks absolutely right for the McCanns, the Rickwoods and their ghastly warped sense of what is is to be decent and normal.

What a wonderful OWN GOAL, yet again.

Come on Mitchell, tell us why we should like images like this !

DO YOU ?

by sofieellis 14.11.13 20:52

Ryan McGinley's pictures are even worse, as they are real photos (some of very young looking girls). I'm absolutely flabbergasted that anyone approves of this sort of stuff.

by **PeterMac** 14.11.13 21:09

sofieellis wrote:Ryan McGinley's pictures are even worse, as they are real photos (some of very young looking girls). I'm absolutely flabbergasted that anyone approves of this sort of stuff.

Having just accessed them, I now hesitate before posting them, and have decided, on balance, not to.
Anyone who wants to se, have a look at
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Including you - Kevin ! Then your employers can find it on your downloads and sack you. Go on, Dare you !

by Copodenieve 14.11.13 21:36

Was it on this thread that I read the name Ewan McDonald? I´m sure somebody mentioned his name. I´ve just read an article in Spanish that he is suspected by the Guardia Civil to be involved in the abdcution of a child in Spain 10th March 2007.

by Guest 14.11.13 22:14

Enid O'Dowd wrote:Some earlier posters have made comments on the Missing People accounts for the year ended 31 March 2013 which I think are a little misleading. There’s a lot of information given in the audited accounts on the Missing People website.

Note 4 Staff costs on page 19 gives interesting information.

Somebody complained that salaries increased by over £150,000 over the previous year.

Yes they did, but their paid staff increased from 46 to 50. It’s possible that the staff are on incremental salary scales so salaries would go up even if staff numbers remained the same.

Note 4 states that no employee earned above £60,000 in the year which means that the CEOs salary is, at the most, £60,000. It also states that in the previous year one person earned £70,000 -£80,000 so either the CEO took a pay cut or the old one left and they took on a replacement for less.

The Trustees (directors) do not get any payment. One director received £222 travelling expenses in the year. It is normal to refund directors of charities their out of pocket expenses

Very welcome, Enid! A breath of fresh air and a level head, Good to see you

by Guest 14.11.13 22:21

Lance De Boils wrote:About the artist, Natasha Law, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

A few snippets (my red):

Born in south London in 1970, Natasha Law is the older sister of the actor Jude Law. An artist trained at Camberwell College, she is renowned for using household paints to create predominantly erotic images, and has illustrated books including Camilla Morton's How to Walk in High Heels: the Girl's Guide to Everything.
If I have time to myself: I go running for 45mins – any longer and I start to feel guilty about everything else I should be doing.
At night I dream of: buildings with lots of staircases, losing children, exhibitions I've forgotten to paint any pictures for – the usual.
My favourite work of art: At the moment it's Lily (with black eye) by Ryan McGinley.
The best invention ever: anaesthetic.
Here's Lily (with black eye):

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Hey, so here we have the third Cuddle doggo flogged by SY a per today; the one on the right in the line-up

by lj 14.11.13 22:37

tasprin wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:
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Prepare yourselves for some pictures of Kate looking saintly in her caring for others role.
So she won't be 'searching' for her 'missing' daughter AGAIN, tonight!

I noticed that in the 'silent' auction is two days at Pete Townshens (sic) 'studios'

That would be the Pete Townshen (sic) who was put on the sex offenders register, for 5 years, for accessing child porn images!
How can the Missing People charity possibly justify this? Their high profile ambassador, Kate McCann, has repeatedly told the world that her missing daughter was abducted by a paedophile and she has detailed in her book the horrific images in her mind. In addition, Missing People are well aware that many kids are missing because they have run away from abusive situations in the home yet they have the gall to advertise a prize offered by a person who was on the sex offenders register for five years for accessing child abuse images. Incredible! They obviously don't give a damn who represents them as long as they rake in the cash. As an ambassador for the charity, will Kate McCann have to meet and greet Townshend, maybe he'll be seated next to her and they can have a chat about her book? Why are the media banging on about that awful t-shirt stunt at Wandsworth Prison and ignoring this story?

Indeed wtf Tasprin, unbelievable. One of the members here, I am sorry I forgot who there has been so many great posts, had written to Missing people and got an answer that more or less said they were not there to judge. WTF?? You would hope that an organization like that does something as prevention. Those mediocre doctors are the perfect example of NON responsible parenting.
In the past I dabbled for a while in the Washington DC non profit circuit. I started out very enthusiastic and eager to "help" and fled the scene after I slowly discovered that there only one reason for the existence of all those non-profits: the profits of those involved. I could really write a book about what I saw happening there, and I still get nauseous just thinking of it. It's cronyism of the highest level. What we read from missing people is that it is really not better than PACT and all those other moneymakers.

by plebgate 14.11.13 22:54

How is Lilly with black eyes art?- anybody could take a photo of a girl and photoshop in a couple of black eyes, how is that art? Well I wouldn't be able to do it, lol, but many would.

Art, my arris.

Jude Law's sister eh, maybe that explains why she is one of the "in crowd". I don't like him (surprise, surprise, lol), how is he good looking?and he can't act for toffee imo.

Luvvies of the world unite, oh their jobs are so terribly hard dahlings. Well give it up and let somebody else do it I say. DUH.

Jog on the lot of them.