Re: Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people

by Guest 19.07.12 21:10

Here's a link to a map showing all the counties.

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by tuom 19.07.12 21:11

Jean wrote:Here's a link to a map showing all the counties.

[url=http://www.picturesofengland.com/mapofengland/counties-map.html

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by pauline 19.07.12 22:37

Jean wrote:Just another coincidence no doubt but one of the trustees, Chris Rollings, is a chief superintendent with Leicestershire Constabulary.

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Just looked him up jean thanks to your reference, and in his CV it says -

'Chris has a passion for improving the investigation and management of missing person cases.'

Perhaps he could advise Kate to co-operate with the Portuguese police and organise the reconstruction - this might improve the investigation for her missing child?

by bristow 19.07.12 22:42

Jean wrote:Just another coincidence no doubt but one of the trustees, Chris Rollings, is a chief superintendent with Leicestershire Constabulary.

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by Olympicana_Reloaded 20.07.12 2:28

Take a look at the tweets of @Trolls_Nemesis

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Most notably these, amongst others

Portuguese Police fail yet another UK victim of tragedy in their not so safe holiday resorts #McCann

Portugal is NOT really a safe place for innocent children; see children who've gone "missing" in Portugal #McCann

WARNING: Interpol arrests demonstrate PORTUGAL is not a PAEDOPHILE free zone

Then take a look at the following article regarding Missing Children South Africa founder Pieter Boshoff.

Boshoff’s secret double life

Most notably the following,

Boshoff made headlines in 2006 when he launched his website [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in response to the controversial crimexposouthafrica, set up by fellow Capetonian Neil Watson who wanted to scare tourists away from visiting South Africa because of the crime rate.

The following year, Boshoff set up Missing Children SA to help families look for their missing children and to give them support.

It had a website and SMS system to assist families and the police in searching for missing children, and was initially funded by Boshoff.

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Does anyone else see a familiar pattern emerging here?

by Guest 20.07.12 7:58

tigger wrote:
Ollie wrote:The role of Ambassador to a charity was Gerry's ambition and part of the wider agenda imo. Wonder what went wrong, Kate beating him to it...I don't think Gerry will be happy that Kate has achieved more than he has been able to. Kate is not fit to hold such a position.

I think this particular role is a consolation prize compared to what the original ambitions were. That is, International Ambassadors for Amber Alert Europe - the post is already filled in the US.
That would involve meeting heads of state, international celebrities, the Beckhams, film stars, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt and so on.

Trudging round the UK and getting interviewed by the likes of Lorraine Kelly isn't quite the same but hopefully as good as it gets.

The whole ambassadorial charade reminds one of what happened after John Profumo betrayed his wife and his country, and then spent the rest of his life making up for it doing something in a slum somewhere. Well, slums no longer exist, so other means of polisihing up ones tarnished image must apparently be invented. GM doesn't need one. He, after all, did only what was to be expected of an aspiring British gentleman: put the place in order, kick the troops into action and cover the tracks. But KH now, that may be another story altogether. If she were involved, a big IF, CR are you listening?, and IF she were a catholic, she might want to do pennance, picking up a few bob while she's at it. No harm there.

Quite a formidable task, not to be seen smiling on camera for the rest of your life, wearing garbs and ugly things on your feet.

For the rest of your life.

That may be quite a long time. It took Profumo a long time too, before he was admitted back to civil society.

by Liz Eagles 20.07.12 9:36

Olympicana_Reloaded wrote:Take a look at the tweets of @Trolls_Nemesis

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Most notably these, amongst others

Portuguese Police fail yet another UK victim of tragedy in their not so safe holiday resorts #McCann

Portugal is NOT really a safe place for innocent children; see children who've gone "missing" in Portugal #McCann

WARNING: Interpol arrests demonstrate PORTUGAL is not a PAEDOPHILE free zone

Then take a look at the following article regarding Missing Children South Africa founder Pieter Boshoff.

Boshoff’s secret double life

Most notably the following,

Boshoff made headlines in 2006 when he launched his website [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in response to the controversial crimexposouthafrica, set up by fellow Capetonian Neil Watson who wanted to scare tourists away from visiting South Africa because of the crime rate.

The following year, Boshoff set up Missing Children SA to help families look for their missing children and to give them support.

It had a website and SMS system to assist families and the police in searching for missing children, and was initially funded by Boshoff.

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Does anyone else see a familiar pattern emerging here?

I tried clicking on your link but got a message that the website forbid it.

South Africa is an unsafe place to live and I have lived there.

by Guest 20.07.12 9:53

Reply to Portia, re Profumo:
Except that a key part of penance is accepting and publicly acknowledging that you have done wrong and are sorry for it. Kate and Gerry McCann have never acknowledged even the smallest degree of wrongdoing or error. Despite their many supporters defending them by saying that they made a mistake and are paying for it now, the McCanns do not acknowledge anything of the kind. Indeed, they insist that what they did was "responsible parenting". If that is indeed the case, why would they be sorry about it?
In fact, if the McCanns had been willing to show some humility, contrition and responsibility in relation to Madeleine's disappearance, many of us who are still angrily asking questions five years later might well have accepted what they said and moved on. As it is, their insistence that they behaved responsibly and are totally blameless; their refusal to "risk" answering straightforward police questions, and their hostility towards those who question them (but not towards their friend, who apparently watched their child being abducted and then refused to take part in a police reconstruction), keeps fuelling more criticism, more doubt and more determination to dig deeper. A big tactical error on their part, I think.

by **tigger** 20.07.12 10:05

@Portia

Re Gerry: he has always seemed rather smug to me and only completely loses it when he isn't believed. I totally agree with your opinion there. Imo he was not actively involved in whatever happened - hence the smugness. But he knows full well what happened and again imo organised the story, the aftermath, the marketing etc. Although I believe that a lot of those ideas predate 2007.
The point is that he didn't get his own hands dirty whereas it seems other people did.

Kate is being re-branded and Gerry will no doubt be addressing parliament again at some stage - he will eventually get a suitable consolation prize, MEP for the Gorbals?

by lufc50337 20.07.12 10:50

I don't think it's a rebranding of KM I feel it's a keep your mouth shut and this is what we

can do for you, open your mouth and you get 'Mummy where were you when we were crying stories' etc

I think GM & KM thought they were going to be worldwide ambassadors but it hasn't gone to plan for various

reasons and GM has accepted this & KM has been thrown some scraps

by ShuBob 20.07.12 18:37

One wonders what Kate McCann thinks of the use of lie-detector tests on paedophiles.

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by jd 20.07.12 18:54

ShuBob wrote:One wonders what Kate McCanns thinks of the use of lie-detector tests on paedohiles.

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Good question. She would have real problems answering this

by **tigger** 20.07.12 19:58

jd wrote:
ShuBob wrote:One wonders what Kate McCanns thinks of the use of lie-detector tests on paedohiles.

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Good question. She would have real problems answering this

What would happen if the paedophiles would do the same thing the McCanns did? They said they'd take the test and then some time later the pink one told the press that this wasn't necessary since they were innocent...

by Liz Eagles 20.07.12 20:04

tigger wrote:
jd wrote:
ShuBob wrote:One wonders what Kate McCanns thinks of the use of lie-detector tests on paedohiles.

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Good question. She would have real problems answering this

What would happen if the paedophiles would do the same thing the McCanns did? They said they'd take the test and then some time later the pink one told the press that this wasn't necessary since they were innocent...

The problem with the lie detector test is Mc's and the pink one would not have had control over the questions. The PJ have ownership of the case and would be free to ask anything pertaining to it. Including the 48 unanswered questions. Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

by ShuBob 20.07.12 20:10

It was the McCanns themselves who first brought up the issue of lie-detecor tests. Perhaps, they weren't expecting anyone to call their bluff.

by Liz Eagles 20.07.12 20:19

ShuBob wrote:It was the McCanns themselves who first brought up the issue of lie-detecor tests. Perhaps, they weren't expecting anyone to call their bluff.

Are polygraphs admissable in a Portuguese court or investigation?

by ShuBob 20.07.12 20:21

aquila wrote:
ShuBob wrote:It was the McCanns themselves who first brought up the issue of lie-detecor tests. Perhaps, they weren't expecting anyone to call their bluff.

Are polygraphs admissable in a Portuguese court or investigation?

No and they must have known this but still said they would take one until their bluff was called.

by winjoy 04.08.12 23:35

......not a sign of the saintly ambassador when this young girl goes missing....but I hope she will be found nonetheless.

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by **tigger** 05.08.12 7:35

The ambassador role has been a long time in the making. From the timeline of February :

Sunday 17 February 2008
KATE QUITS AS GP TO WORK FOR KIDS' CHARITIES EXCLUSIVE The People
Mum combines 'ambassador' role with search for missing Maddie

Meanwhile, it is understood Kate McCann is quitting her job as a locum GP to devote her life to children's charities. Mrs McCann has not returned to work since Madeleine's disappearance in May and has reportedly told friends she feels she has a lot to offer charity organisations.
The couple want to campaign for a Europe-wide alert system for missing children, like the amber alert system in place in the U.S. The McCanns attended a lunch for Missing Children Europe last week and they have both met with officials from the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children and the Centre for Child Exploitation and Online Protection.

Kate and Gerry McCann have been threatened with legal action by the father of missing five-year-old girl after they included her in a poster campaign appealing for information about Madeleine's disappearance.

unquote.

We are talking 4.5 years ago here and it's taken all this time to get a foot on the bottom rung.

by Guest 12.03.13 9:38

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Now don't all fall over yourselves in your haste to sponsor Kate.

by tiny 12.03.13 9:41

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Now don't all fall over yourselves in your haste to sponsor Kate.

i see she is highjacking another event,you can RUN kate but YOU cant HIDE, and no amount of trying to look innocent will make you so.

by mydadsanastronaut 12.03.13 9:59

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Now don't all fall over yourselves in your haste to sponsor Kate.

I wonder if she had to enter the ballot for entry like "ordinary" people, or if she was given preferential treatment. Apparently, over 100,000 people applied for places, with in excess of 70,000 missing out.

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And, no, I fear I shan't be reaching for some cash to sponsor her. I save my money for actual charities that try to help many people and animals.

by Liz Eagles 12.03.13 10:01

I believe Kate is running for Missing People which is a charity. She's an ambassador for this charity.

by mydadsanastronaut 12.03.13 10:04

aquila wrote:I believe Kate is running for Missing People which is a charity. She's an ambassador for this charity.

Sorry,aquila, I've become so used to the begging bowl being held out for the "fund" that I automatically thought of that in connection with her. Which, actually, I suppose, many people do. Not good for the Missing People charity, if that's the case.

by Guest 12.03.13 10:05

Yes that's correct. She is representing the Missing People charity - it's their 20th anniversary this year - not her own pseudo organisation.

by mydadsanastronaut 12.03.13 10:08

Jean wrote:Yes that's correct. She is representing the Missing People charity - it's their 20th anniversary this year - not her own pseudo organisation.

Again, apologies, Jean. Her name, in my mind, is always inextricably linked to the "fund" and all its shenanigans.

But, I still wonder whether she had to apply in the ballot, or if the charity were invited to put forward a high profile representative.

by Liz Eagles 12.03.13 10:13

Jean wrote:Yes that's correct. She is representing the Missing People charity - it's their 20th anniversary this year - not her own pseudo organisation.

It's a very telling thing that KM is not running for the Fund imo. It could be that she is 'contractually' obliged to do certain events for Missing People. It could also be that she simply wants to do it of her own free will. Either way it doesn't sit well with the sole focus on finding Madeleine the McCanns have relentlessly spouted.

Now the little cynic in me tells me there hasn't been a public announcement/update on the Find Madeleine website since Christmas so this will be a good news story opportunity.

Oh, and why is Kate pictured in a running vest with Madeleine's picture of when she was 3 years old.

by uppatoffee 12.03.13 10:22

You do not need to go in the ballot for marathon places if you are running for charity. You normally have to agree to fundraise a set amount. Each charity has a different limit.

by **Nina** 12.03.13 10:39

Have you read some of the posts with the donations? What do these people see that I am missing. All I know is there eldest child is missing, at best as a result of gross neglect and at worse something far worse. And people still fawn over her :please:

by pennylane 12.03.13 10:44

She was fit enough to go uphill jogging the day after Maddie was whooshed, so this should be a complete doddle. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]