Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by **crusader** 29.10.24 10:12

Where is the evidence of abuse?
I only ask questions to get a clearer picture in case I've missed something.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 10:18

I’ve always wondered if the big Sister’s role was a bit more than being there to baby sit the twins and making mince and tatties,
Could her remit include being wee bro’s eyes ears and to keep KM close when he wasn’t around?

I reckon there’s a huge possibility that the relationship of GM KM may have included coersive control / DV

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 10:23

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 10:24

Their daughter has been abducted, possibly raped, and hidden in the lawless hills. Oooookay.

by Justice for Maddie 29.10.24 10:27

pinkgladioli wrote:I’ve always wondered if the big Sister’s role was a bit more than being there to baby sit the twins and making mince and tatties,
Could her remit include being wee bro’s eyes ears and to keep KM close when he wasn’t around?

I reckon there’s a huge possibility that the relationship of GM KM may have included coersive control / DV

I wouldn't be surprised. Gerry is a narcissistic control freak.

by **Nina** 29.10.24 11:21

Justice for Maddie wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:I’ve always wondered if the big Sister’s role was a bit more than being there to baby sit the twins and making mince and tatties,
Could her remit include being wee bro’s eyes ears and to keep KM close when he wasn’t around?

I reckon there’s a huge possibility that the relationship of GM KM may have included coersive control / DV

I wouldn't be surprised. Gerry is a narcissistic control freak.

And his sisters hold him in very high esteem.

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 11:23

I agree; I think Big Sis is also a bully. Reports on her ability as a teacher are appalling.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 11:30

CaKeLoveR wrote:I agree; I think Big Sis is also a bully. Reports on her ability as a teacher are appalling.

They both give the impression of being nasty, the two we know of , there’s not much info on the other sister

by **Nina** 29.10.24 11:37

CaKeLoveR wrote:I agree; I think Big Sis is also a bully. Reports on her ability as a teacher are appalling.

She is also thought to have been involved in ''the dossier''.

by Clishmaclaver 29.10.24 11:52

pinkgladioli wrote:
CaKeLoveR wrote:I agree; I think Big Sis is also a bully. Reports on her ability as a teacher are appalling.
They both give the impression of being nasty, the two we know of , there’s not much info on the other sister

Auntie Trish seemed to be out in PdL to a greater extent, seeing to the 'weans and the mince and tatties. She was less vociferous that Auntie Phil, the first 'spokesperson'.

The Jacqueline one, whose partner was tragically murdered by junkies in 2003, has kept her head below the parapet. Perhaps she is less brash than the others, or doesn't get on with them.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 12:30

Yes she was less vociferous, sometimes the quiet ones are the one to pay close attention to

Who were the friend’s who lent them the car,
Did this car ever come under scrutiny?
how did they finance such a long trip?
The fact that the ex husband who was a driver for the scenic was still in employment in Helensburgh the last time I checked suggest they weren’t close to retirement
The brother being able to take time off work
Not forgetting the Philth and the possibility of her being linked to the dossier etc
Is it possible the majority of these have possible guilty knowledge ?
Is it GM who solely has links to powerful?
Or do the entire family have?

by **Nina** 29.10.24 12:54

pinkgladioli wrote:Yes she was less vociferous, sometimes the quiet ones are the one to pay close attention to

Who were the friend’s who lent them the car,
Did this car ever come under scrutiny?
how did they finance such a long trip?
The fact that the ex husband who was a driver for the scenic was still in employment in Helensburgh the last time I checked suggest they weren’t close to retirement
The brother being able to take time off work
Not forgetting the Philth and the possibility of her being linked to the dossier etc
Is it possible the majority of these have possible guilty knowledge ?
Is it GM who solely has links to powerful?
Or do the entire family have?

Gosh my head is a shed but didn't Kate's mum call someone straight away who lived very close to where they were staying?

by deepeepee 29.10.24 13:08

Sorry if I am being dim but can someone (pinkgladioli, maybe) tell me what is being referred to as "the dossier", please?

by **Jill Havern** 29.10.24 13:12

deepeepee wrote:Sorry if I am being dim but can someone (pinkgladioli, maybe) tell me what is being referred to as "the dossier", please?

https://whatreallyhappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-mccann-family-and-dossier-of-death.html

RIP Brenda Leyland singlerose

by deepeepee 29.10.24 13:16

Thanks Jill.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 13:54

Nina wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Yes she was less vociferous, sometimes the quiet ones are the one to pay close attention to

Who were the friend’s who lent them the car,
Did this car ever come under scrutiny?
how did they finance such a long trip?
The fact that the ex husband who was a driver for the scenic was still in employment in Helensburgh the last time I checked suggest they weren’t close to retirement
The brother being able to take time off work
Not forgetting the Philth and the possibility of her being linked to the dossier etc
Is it possible the majority of these have possible guilty knowledge ?
Is it GM who solely has links to powerful?
Or do the entire family have?
Gosh my head is a shed but didn't Kate's mum call someone straight away who lived very close to where they were staying?

I don’t want to give wrong info, as I try to remember,
Was it not something along the lines of KM mother had a friend around when she took the phone call re Madeleine , the friend holidayed previous in the Algarve although I can’t remember what town she had a Portuguese friend who run a bar, and asked him to contact the McC’s.?? Was KM mum’s friend called Pat?

by **crusader** 29.10.24 13:58

The man with the bar in Portugal was the one who supplied the mobile phones.

by **Nina** 29.10.24 14:00

pinkgladioli wrote:
Nina wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Yes she was less vociferous, sometimes the quiet ones are the one to pay close attention to

Who were the friend’s who lent them the car,
Did this car ever come under scrutiny?
how did they finance such a long trip?
The fact that the ex husband who was a driver for the scenic was still in employment in Helensburgh the last time I checked suggest they weren’t close to retirement
The brother being able to take time off work
Not forgetting the Philth and the possibility of her being linked to the dossier etc
Is it possible the majority of these have possible guilty knowledge ?
Is it GM who solely has links to powerful?
Or do the entire family have?
Gosh my head is a shed but didn't Kate's mum call someone straight away who lived very close to where they were staying?
I don’t want to give wrong info, as I try to remember,
Was it not something along the lines of KM mother had a friend around when she took the phone call re Madeleine , the friend holidayed previous in the Algarve although I can’t remember what town she had a Portuguese friend who run a bar, and asked him to contact the McC’s.?? Was KM mum’s friend called Pat?

It was a bar or a shop but she rang to ask they help Kate and Gerry. I am trying to find the mention of it but really can't find it as I can't find anything in the files or even newspaper articles. Anyways I am pleased you have some recollection of it too.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 14:07

Was KM mum friend’s name Pat Perkins ?

I think she was possibly involved in sending chain emails as well?

by **crusader** 29.10.24 14:10

Here you are pinkgladioli.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/AURELIO_GUERREIRO.htm

by **Nina** 29.10.24 14:13

pinkgladioli wrote:Was KM mum friend’s name Pat Perkins ?

I think she was possibly involved in sending chain emails as well?

You are correct and as a McCann supporter in the first months I was involved with those emails.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id72.htm

by **Nina** 29.10.24 14:16

Clever pinkgladioli within that link is also what I was looking for....

Pat Perkins and the events of 03 May 2007

On 18 May 2007, Portuguese newspaper 'Sol' published the following report: 'Aurelio Guerreiro, the owner of a bar at the marina in Vilamoura, was close to being involved. His testimony to Sol confuses the McCanns' time version. Sometime between 0.30 and 1 a.m., Aurelio got a phonecall from an old customer: Pat Perkins, the Human Resources Director from a public English organism. She calls him, upset: ''She told me the daughter of British friends of hers, who were vacationing close to Lagos, had disappeared over 3 hours ago, that they were completely alone and that nobody was helping them to search for her''.

Kate McCann had just informed her parents of the tragedy. Pat, who lives in Liverpool, confirms: ''I was at Kate's parents' house at that moment. But I have nothing further to add''.

Guerreiro tells what he did after Pat called him: ''I understood she wanted me to go meet them, but I was an hour away from their location, and I could not close the bar, I decided to call the police''. After PJ in Portimao confirmed to him they already knew about the case, Aurelio phoned Kate, at the number that Pat had given him: ''An English man picked it up. He thanked me, and contrary to what I expected, he didn't ask me for anything''.

Minutes after this phonecall, Gerry asks for the priest from the Luz parish to be called for him – but the Ocean Club staff members refused, given the time it was. At four in the morning, Jane was asking a member of GNR: ''Have you cut off all the roads already?''. Minutes later, Gerry, given the fact that the priest didn't appear, asked another element of GNR to show him the way to the church.'

by **Jill Havern** 29.10.24 14:22

Nina wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Was KM mum friend’s name Pat Perkins ?

I think she was possibly involved in sending chain emails as well?
You are correct and as a McCann supporter in the first months I was involved with those emails.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id72.htm

I remember receiving those chain emails and wondered at the time how they got my email address
think

by Clishmaclaver 29.10.24 14:30

pinkgladioli wrote:Was KM mum friend’s name Pat Perkins ?

I think she was possibly involved in sending chain emails as well?

Yes!

Was there someone who made very nasty, vulgar comments online and was associated with either Pat Perkins or Mrs. Healy, as it turned out?
It was somebody in Portugal from what I remember and it was an attack on the anti-McCann brigade.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 14:40

Just looked at the PJ file re Pat Perkins
It looks like it was started on the 7th May 2007
and used the tennis ball photo of Madeleine

by Justice for Maddie 29.10.24 15:10

Did Gerry's sister Philomena really say that Kate is responsible for Maddie's accidental death?

by Jojo1 29.10.24 15:24

Justice for Maddie wrote:

Did Gerry's sister Philomena really say that Kate is responsible for Maddies's accidental death?

That's a video, I do not recall seeing before. It certainly does give the impression that Philomena had filled in MB and Sky news that KMc was potentially going to be charged with Madeleine accidental death

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 15:25

Brunt didn't retract that statement which was attributed to Big Phil, so it seems to be true. Knowing nothing, she blamed Kate McCann.

by **crusader** 29.10.24 15:35

Philomena said she understands that Kate McCann will be charged later today with Madeleine's accidental death.
So no she didn't say Kate was responsible for Madeleine's accidental death.

by **Nina** 29.10.24 15:36

Jill Havern wrote:
Nina wrote:
pinkgladioli wrote:Was KM mum friend’s name Pat Perkins ?

I think she was possibly involved in sending chain emails as well?
You are correct and as a McCann supporter in the first months I was involved with those emails.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id72.htm
I remember receiving those chain emails and wondered at the time how they got my email address

We were given a list of email addresses to write to. Another venture was to write to every publication in the UK even down to publications that were linked to specific crafts, interests or hobbies. Just publications. Then there was the youtube video bombardment.
Sorry. I was there in the thick of it and really genuinely thought I was helping to ensure that Madeleine was found and returned to her parents.

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