Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 15:37

That's true, but she could have kept quiet.

by **crusader** 29.10.24 15:40

crusader wrote:Philomena said she understands that Kate McCann will be charged later today with Madeleine's accidental death.
So no she didn't say Kate was responsible for Madeleine's accidental death.
And Kate wasn't charged with Madeleines accidental death that day or any other for that matter.

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 15:50

I wonder why she said it?

by **crusader** 29.10.24 15:52

Probably because Kate had been speaking to her lawyer that day and he said it was likely.

by Justice for Maddie 29.10.24 15:56

crusader wrote:
crusader wrote:Philomena said she understands that Kate McCann will be charged later today with Madeleine's accidental death.
So no she didn't say Kate was responsible for Madeleine's accidental death.
And Kate wasn't charged with Madeleines accidental death that day or any other for that matter.

I know Kate wasn't charged with Maddie's death. But the point is that she indirectly blamed Kate for Maddie's death. Did she want to protect Gerry?

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 16:03

I feel that she was rather keen to do just that. If it was as Crusader described, and she repeated what Kate McCann had told her, why tell Martin Brunt, of all people. Nasty.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 16:19

CaKeLoveR wrote:I feel that she was rather keen to do just that. If it was as Crusader described, and she repeated what Kate McCann had told her, why tell Martin Brunt, of all people. Nasty.

Possibly the directive to Philth came from a different source
Was there a possibility of a scenario being concocted just in case the inventible happened
After all they were both given the same status not just the one

by Justice for Maddie 29.10.24 17:05

Nina wrote:Clever pinkgladioli within that link is also what I was looking for....

Pat Perkins and the events of 03 May 2007
On 18 May 2007, Portuguese newspaper 'Sol' published the following report: 'Aurelio Guerreiro, the owner of a bar at the marina in Vilamoura, was close to being involved. His testimony to Sol confuses the McCanns' time version. Sometime between 0.30 and 1 a.m., Aurelio got a phonecall from an old customer: Pat Perkins, the Human Resources Director from a public English organism. She calls him, upset: ''She told me the daughter of British friends of hers, who were vacationing close to Lagos, had disappeared over 3 hours ago, that they were completely alone and that nobody was helping them to search for her''.

Kate McCann had just informed her parents of the tragedy. Pat, who lives in Liverpool, confirms: ''I was at Kate's parents' house at that moment. But I have nothing further to add''.

Guerreiro tells what he did after Pat called him: ''I understood she wanted me to go meet them, but I was an hour away from their location, and I could not close the bar, I decided to call the police''. After PJ in Portimao confirmed to him they already knew about the case, Aurelio phoned Kate, at the number that Pat had given him: ''An English man picked it up. He thanked me, and contrary to what I expected, he didn't ask me for anything''.

Minutes after this phonecall, Gerry asks for the priest from the Luz parish to be called for him – but the Ocean Club staff members refused, given the time it was. At four in the morning, Jane was asking a member of GNR: ''Have you cut off all the roads already?''. Minutes later, Gerry, given the fact that the priest didn't appear, asked another element of GNR to show him the way to the church.'

Why did Gerry ask for the way to the church? Did they remove Maddie's body to the church that night and didn't people see a couple with a bag near the church?

Bernt Stellander interview - Page 5 Images20

by **crusader** 29.10.24 17:15

Was it Aurelio that said Gerry asked for a priest after the phone call, or was it Sol newspaper?
I wonder how they knew.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 17:47

crusader wrote:Was it Aurelio that said Gerry asked for a priest after the phone call, or was it Sol newspaper?
I wonder how they knew.

Looks like that article was from the 18th May, I’m sure there was to footage of KM’s Mother speaking about Kate was asking for a priest

by **crusader** 29.10.24 17:50

I find it most peculiar that Philomena said Kate could be charged with Madeline's accident, but to make things worse for herself, Kate refused to answer 40+ questions. making her look even more suspicious.

by **CaKeLoveR** 29.10.24 17:55

It is peculiar. Do you know if, after what Brunt said, there was any follow up to find out if Phil really told him what Kate McCann said? I can't recall that there was.

by **crusader** 29.10.24 18:01

I haven't seen one.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 18:44

YouTube

Auntie Phil: “They tried to get Kate to confess”

(uploaded by alvesdosreis2007)

Apologies can’t do links

by Justice for Maddie 29.10.24 18:48

by **crusader** 29.10.24 18:52

If the police did say that, or maybe her lawyer? It sounds as if they were desperate because they were getting nowhere.

by **AnneCGuedes** 29.10.24 18:58

BerntS wrote:There was no dream. It was a lead.

She had already pointed death to the PJ when she insisted so much to let the man with the hair machine come.
On July 23rd ("Madeleine") she pretends to find RP distant and suspects the PJ takes DK's findings seriously, as if she wasn't the one who called him.

The episode on same July 23rd in the morning (As she ran up the cliff, she was surrounded by a dozen dogs and prayed Oh God, don't let Madeleine be buried here) sounds real, though I doubt the stray dogs were as many as that.

by **AnneCGuedes** 29.10.24 19:01

crusader wrote:If the police did say that, or maybe her lawyer? It sounds as if they were desperate because they were getting nowhere.

The police couldn't have offered a deal. No bargain in Roman Civil Law System.

by **Silentscope** 29.10.24 19:07

Whatever the ‘misunderstanding’ was about the alleged ‘Deal’ Kate certainly used it to her own advantage and played the Victim.

by **AnneCGuedes** 29.10.24 19:26

Justice for Maddie wrote:
crusader wrote:
crusader wrote:Philomena said she understands that Kate McCann will be charged later today with Madeleine's accidental death.
So no she didn't say Kate was responsible for Madeleine's accidental death.
And Kate wasn't charged with Madeleines accidental death that day or any other for that matter.

I know Kate wasn't charged with Maddie's death. But the point is that she indirectly blamed Kate for Maddie's death. Did she want to protect Gerry?

No she didn't blame K indirectly, she only blamed the PJ.

by **AnneCGuedes** 29.10.24 19:34

crusader wrote:If the police did say that, or maybe her lawyer? It sounds as if they were desperate because they were getting nowhere.

The PJ hoped that the MCs would spontaneously admit to the crime, but there was no question, from a politically correct point of view, of exerting what might have appeared to be cruel pressure on the unfortunate victims.

by pinkgladioli 29.10.24 19:36

AnneCGuedes wrote:
crusader wrote:If the police did say that, or maybe her lawyer? It sounds as if they were desperate because they were getting nowhere.

The PJ hoped that the MCs would spontaneously admit to the crime, but there was no question, from a politically correct point of view, of exerting what might have appeared to be cruel pressure on the unfortunate victims.

Victims ?

by **AnneCGuedes** 29.10.24 20:57

Crime was in fact misdemeanor. The PJ wouldn't have reacted this way in case of a crime.

by **BerntS** 29.10.24 22:41

Anne.
Are you trying to quote my book, or still pretending you read it

About the number of dogs and her run on the hill.

by **AnneCGuedes** 30.10.24 0:24

BerntS wrote:Anne.
Are you trying to quote my book, or still pretending you read it

About the number of dogs and her run on the hill.

I was just quoting K's Diary which, on 2010 January 10th, when I heard G's protests (and K's silence) outside the tribunal, seemed to vindicate the sworn officer RP.
About the nb of dogs, I never met more than 5 together and usually less.

by **BerntS** 30.10.24 13:03

Anne.
Why don't you write a review under "Brick reviews"?
You asked my publisher to do one, so you could do one here.
I don't mind you being biased with your own theory and book thumbsup

Pat Brown even did a "review" without having read the book

I write "review", since in a normal review of a theory, you present all arguments the author presents for that theory, and not just call it nonsense...and mispresenting content in the book, revealing she didn't read it.