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Post by Jill Havern 16.07.24 15:38

Ooooh...the juicy bit coming up Bluebag   thumbsup

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Post by Bluebagthepirate 17.07.24 20:54

For reference.
Somewhere here.
Vertice Geodesico da Atalaia is "The Monument" and the object of McCann "runs".
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 13:52

Running up that hill... running up that road...

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Post by Justice for Maddie 18.07.24 15:50

And they were on the beach near the hill area.
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 16:29

I think I know who the Nuggets are.

100 pages still to go.
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 20:05

Bluebagthepirate wrote:I think I know who the Nuggets are.
No I don't.

I thought it was the Hubbards and although he is pictured in PDL in May 2017 pot-bellied, grey-haired, wearing sandals with a blonde wife it's not him/them.

I thought they were still there because of that picture but they are in Ontario now and have been since 2012. They just turned up for the 10 year anniversary.
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Post by Cake Lover 18.07.24 20:12

I have tried to recall everybody involved, in an attempt to work out if the Nuggets are local people or holiday makers. Needless to say I'm getting nowhere.
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Post by Jill Havern 18.07.24 20:47

The Nuggets live in PdL (or thereabouts)...TFD followed them home from the cafe and found out where they live.
I do hope they've got a copy of the Brick.

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Post by crusader 18.07.24 20:53

Who were the friends of the McCann's in Praia da Luz where they went for tea and the twins played with their kids?
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 21:18

If the TFD has them 100% on video when they - Gerry, Kate and Nugget - walked past his camera in the early hours then they are dead in the water.

When is he going to put the videos on his website?
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Post by crusader 18.07.24 21:25

They will worm out of it and if they still have the same support they had 17 years ago, there will be an innocent explanation for everything.
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Post by Jill Havern 18.07.24 21:33

Bluebagthepirate wrote:If the TFD has them 100% on video when they - Gerry, Kate and Nugget - walked past his camera in the early hours then they are dead in the water.

When is he going to put the videos on his website?
IIRC TFD identified The Nuggets in the cafe from the dog that was with them, and from the veins on the back of Mrs Nugget's hands. He took a photo of the back of her hand and compared it to the camera footage.

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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 21:36

Jill Havern wrote:
Bluebagthepirate wrote:If the TFD has them 100% on video when they - Gerry, Kate and Nugget - walked past his camera in the early hours then they are dead in the water.

When is he going to put the videos on his website?
IIRC TFD identified The Nuggets in the cafe from the dog that was with them, and from the veins on the back of Mrs Nugget's hands. He took a photo of the back of her hand and compared it to the camera footage.
I think the Nuggets are not the issue if as he said he has Kate and Gerry in that spot.

If he has it is indeed game over. There are no excuses for them being there at that hour in that circumstance.
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Post by crusader 18.07.24 21:38

But he didn't get their faces on camera did he?
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 21:40

crusader wrote:But he didn't get their faces on camera did he?
He said they were identifiable and Kate looked up at the camera to check the heart shaped arrangement.

I know though... that's what is bugging me.
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Post by pinkgladioli 18.07.24 21:42

I personally think it depends on who exactly the Golden Nuggets are, regarding them managing to wriggle their way out, from being held to account, is there a possibility that one or both of the G N’s are potentially well known in a way not related to this case !

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Post by crusader 18.07.24 21:44

You can bet the clothes they were wearing that night have disappeared now.
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Post by Jill Havern 18.07.24 21:45

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:
Bluebagthepirate wrote:If the TFD has them 100% on video when they - Gerry, Kate and Nugget - walked past his camera in the early hours then they are dead in the water.

When is he going to put the videos on his website?
IIRC TFD identified The Nuggets in the cafe from the dog that was with them, and from the veins on the back of Mrs Nugget's hands. He took a photo of the back of her hand and compared it to the camera footage.
I think the Nuggets are not the issue if as he said he has Kate and Gerry in that spot.

If he has it is indeed game over. There are no excuses for them being there at that hour in that circumstance.
Yeah, especially after he'd sent the anonymous email and didn't even tell them where they needed to go check.

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Post by Bluebagthepirate 18.07.24 21:48

It can only be them, even if they are not 100% crystal clear on the video (which I suspect is the case).
I can't imagine someone else out there at that time in that spot for a moonlight stroll.
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Post by crusader 18.07.24 21:54

There is that, teenagers messing about maybe but not older folk.
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 19.07.24 15:52

Finished it.

He has to name names and publish videos.
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Post by Cake Lover 19.07.24 16:07

Some of the main players  won't  want people thinking that they are in the footage, because they are not. They won't dare challenge Bernt, cos that would open a huge can of worms. So, they'll have to live under more suspicion than they have done since Madeleine's 'disappearance'. This is a shame, I'd love somebody to try and sue Bernt.
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Post by Jill Havern 19.07.24 17:44

Bluebagthepirate wrote:Finished it.

He has to name names and publish videos.
Yes, he really does.

I take it you enjoyed the brick? How long did it take you? Did you chop it into 3 parts, or did you take painkillers?

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Post by PeterMac 20.07.24 10:34

Bernt Stellander is back home now after a few days in London doing a 3 hours Podcast recording.

No details of scheduling yet, but it will be posted as soon as we know

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Post by Bluebagthepirate 20.07.24 10:41

Jill Havern wrote:
Bluebagthepirate wrote:Finished it.

He has to name names and publish videos.
Yes, he really does.

I take it you enjoyed the brick? How long did it take you? Did you chop it into 3 parts, or did you take painkillers?
I didn't chop it up... I like big books. Took me a couple of weeks.

I thought he covered everything (more than once  big grin)  and he did it really well. Almost no stone unturned.

10/10.

Magnificent effort with the field work.

Now let's see the videos.
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Post by sharonl 20.07.24 13:53

Jill Havern wrote:Ooooh...the juicy bit coming up Bluebag   thumbsup


Oh don't do this to us. sad1

I have ages to go before I get even to page 602

The suspense is killing now and I don't want to fast forward

thinking Oh, go on, spill the beans

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I meant page 602 onwards is the juicy bit, so even when you get to page 602 you'll still have 200 pages to go.

hysterical

The juicy bit is Bernt's field investigation.

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Post by sharonl 20.07.24 14:59

Jill Havern wrote:I meant page 602 onwards is the juicy bit, so even when you get to page 602 you'll still have 200 pages to go.

hysterical

The juicy bit is Bernt's field investigation.

Any spoliers? think
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sharonl wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:I meant page 602 onwards is the juicy bit, so even when you get to page 602 you'll still have 200 pages to go.

hysterical

The juicy bit is Bernt's field investigation.

Any spoliers?  think
Well, that'd be like telling you that the Titanic sank and even though Leonardo DiCaprio said 'Don't let go" and Kate Winslet said she wouldn't.

She still did anyway.

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Post by sharonl 20.07.24 15:22

Jill Havern wrote:
sharonl wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:I meant page 602 onwards is the juicy bit, so even when you get to page 602 you'll still have 200 pages to go.

hysterical

The juicy bit is Bernt's field investigation.

Any spoliers?  think
Well, that'd be like telling you that the Titanic sank and even though Leonardo DiCaprio said 'Don't let go" and Kate Winslet said she wouldn't.

She still did anyway.

sad1  Oh no, I was going to watch Titanic for the very first time tonight.  That's blown that

Now that you owe me, please tell big grin   Just a little
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