Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

It conjures all sorts of mental images - doesn't it?

the story how she got in it, was there was at least a registered case in portugal, but that never made it in its own right to the collection of possible dramatic and usable cases in the algarve that could be putto cb his name, it is said it was her brother who saw something in the media and reacted back, because the mo in the 2005 rape case had some things in common.  

at first even when there have been very soon been full face portrets out of cb, there was no where something as direct recognition. that part has only grown in much stronger language after the olive press dripped in that story of her. 

and because the german prosecution did take it very long before they got into bringing charges, and with the easy access to the witnesses in the 3 cases with named possible victims, the media got their chance, so the court has the problem to look even into influencing possible witnesses. how much of their story is still original from their own experiences and how much is coloured by media productions. 

our judges are usually very wary of outside influencers, or with hunts in any form. it often results also in more lenient sentences, i have no idea how that result in german courts, and most likely they also have the original statements, so too much extra would show up in their testimony. 
usually there is a lot of care not to influence a jury in the common law systems, but witnesses can be trained or imprinted with information too. and even in judges it would a hard case to keep it only to the law and points of law in this case. 

you never can be sure the media reports true citation of anyone. but there are differences to hear in her first media approach in the irish interview and the much later ones, when a olive press gets in it.  

courts have normally a big problem when the police or a lawyer gets too far in priming a witness, and it does not even need much talent. the best known trick to f.ck up a stockholm line up, is just show the perp in a position he must be a bad apple to the witness, it was often simply done by guiding the perp of the day with handcuffs and two uniformed coppers through the hallway where you left your witness to wait until it was time to talk to them. 9 out of 10 they would put the finger at that one. 

the same approach can work with making these photo fits, just keep telling the witness you work from their words, but you can steer it easily into a portret that likes much more to the perp of the day.

lawyers are also famous for training witnesses, from the use of specific language, to tone of voice, looking fearful to the suspect. or even just put a little extra in the testimony to favour the outcome. 

but in this case it was all nicely pick up by the media. and who does it or tries it, it is hardly to the benefit of that victim. courts never like it. it is not a game, or a book deal, courts need the truth. stories do not need shaving or polishing bits of it. there is also little room to leave the nasty parts out, all will be part of a trial. 

i expect even a early appeal from the defense team, to redress that media influence in the case on all that are part of it. including the role of the prosecution. all they have to get is reasonable doubt and it will in the end favour the suspect under court. 

and most countries does not have the same rules like portugal about keeping your mouth shut about your testimony, so you normally can not restrict a witness from talking in the media, but we already have seen what result is gave in portugal. i know we can only ask to keep things known to a witness silent until a trial has heard it. 

in these 5 cases there can hardly much still be unknown, and i am also always looking for details, but i have no role in a process in a court. but it does usually not make it al easier. 

i also hope there are still old fashion good court reporters, we have one , who is even working for our largest always been a tabloid paper, but in court cases, she is great. no opinions, no refitting words, but just flat out what is said, how and by who. there is at least one from a more regional or local paper, that became also linked to der spiegel. he has done older cases about cb too in germany. 

but again going by the age of at least the victims in 3 of the 5 cases, the chance is great that access can be fully restricted. in the play ground case he was caught in the act, only the declaration of what fact is under dispute still. so in at least one out of the 5, it is good it gets time in a court. 

if cb is indeed the perp in any of the 5 cases, he deserves his time in court for it, if he is innocent in one or more too. he always have the right to a fair trial. reputation does not prove guilt. 
but if it is a kind of guy, that makes it needed to reform the german law, and mostly in the part before it reaches a court, is still over the top.

i am more interested in the technicalities, how they are used from both sides and if the formulation gives room for further use if the madeleine mccann case ever goes to trial. most i can see that could be of use are motivation, getting access, and keeping records, like the 'das buch' and das buch 1'will be used. 

i do not think, the lines in mostly german media, that cb will choose to keep silence is something that is a hard core line, his defense shall most likely just take that from the ongoing run of the courts. 

cb can keep 3 different lawyers at the defense table under court, but it has not be the same 3 all the time. ff and pm are most likely part of the 3, but there are more. 

it is time to get some more factual talking out of this episode. 

i do not think it is very accidental that our dear jon is showing some feathers in the daily mail, if there is little room for the media, larger or better known news outlets usually get preferences in the cue, the olive press who, from where would not make it very far. at least there is supposes a brand new coffee outlet a bit down the street, i would not fancy that much for standing under the stairs in wintery februari in germany at all. 

it would help dear jon massively if he just broke a leg or two, there is a much easier side entrance with easy parking for the handicapped. i am used to such handy solutions myself, and it gives always a nicer place at the front in public. and in most countries you can get a helping aid in for free too. so how low would our dear jon be willing to go. it is very risky traveling the alps this weekend. i mean a little accidental wrong step in that snowed in train in bayern, it can give some extra opportunities. i mean writing for the daily mail, he can not have studied for that all those years.

crusader wrote:And what about the witness who saw a man climbing onto Behan's balcony, did he say the man was wearing tights and a leotard or should we assume he had them on under his outer clothes.

It's full of jolly Christmas cracker jokes ain't it?

If I witnessed anything like that, I'd put the bottle back in the cupboard and go to bed until next year at least.

until this story broke, i had no idea there was really a market for male leotards, but google is a good friend to solve that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=leotards+for+males&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwilxLu27_CCAxXaxwIHHS-4AGkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=leotards+for+males&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDoECCMQJzoFCAAQgAQ6BggAEAcQHjoECAAQHjoHCAAQgAQQEzoICAAQBRAeEBNQ-AtYwyVg2DZoAHAAeACAATqIAbMEkgECMTGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=ujJrZaX_INqPi-gPr_CCyAY&bih=836&biw=1280&rlz=1C1GGRV_enNL751NL751


but it would not be my first choice if i had that kind of acrobatics in mind. with or without tights on the go. 

and if this was his usual working uniform, he is certainly never seen around 5a or the ocean club. at least i know gents did forget the ladies only could were a towel at times, and not even could keep that in their memory. but males in leotard and tights are of course a complete different league of their own. 
the jensen sisters would certainly have kept that in their stories.

and all his sporting equipement, there never have been much of a pocket in such clothing at all.

I think he kept all his equipment in a swag bag, most likely the same bag used to move a body from apartment 5a Ocean Club on Thursday 3rd May 2007, or thereabouts - blue in colour perhaps?

Or was it a trunk or a white delivery van or a container lorry .

Meanwhile you'd think the Irish would be a bit more up to speed, maybe they just don't have the right connections for an EXCLUSIVE.

Sorry, where was I..

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner to go on trial for alleged rape of Dublin woman

He is accused of raping Dubliner Hazel Behan when she was just 20 during a four hour horrific ordeal

ByJohn Kierans

12:33, 2 DEC 2023

The monster suspected of abducting Maddie McCann is to stand trial in the new year for the alleged rape of an Irish woman in Portugal.



Convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, 46, will be tried at Braunschweig High Court in Germany. He is accused of raping Dubliner Hazel Behan when she was just 20 during a four hour horrific ordeal.

But he will also be tried for two other alleged rapes which he is accused of having carried out and filmed at a small farmhouse he rented outside the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz where little Maddie went missing in May 2007. Three of the five cases against him involve minors including a teenage girl and a 10 year old German girl.

The other alleged adult victim apart from Hazel is a woman in her late fifties. The trial is due to begin in Germany on February 16 next and is expected to last up to four months.

He has not been charged in relation to Maddie’s abduction but sources say the German police are hoping they will be in a position to do so soon. Bruckner is currently serving a jail sentence in Germany for the rape of an American pensioner.

He allegedly broke into Irish woman Hazel Behan’s apartment and raped her over a couple of hours in a horrific violent attack in 2004. She had been working in Portugal as a travel rep at the time.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-28216373

The same bloke, John Kierans, has reported much the same in the Irish Independent but you need to register to view - I ain't about to do that

well that was a message of a lazy man. 

the case of the reporter who did read another paper.

and it still had been pretty early this week, when dear jon still told all about a woman in het fifties, he only took it into the sixties later on, still wrong no such case will made it to court this round. 

but it is at least short. 

not very typical irish, they are well known storytellers and most have quite a talent in that.

ANATOMY OF A KIDNAP Madeleine McCann cops scour cold cases including ANOTHER Brit girl who vanished on hols aged 3 as they hunt for new lead

Cops are locked in a 'race against time' to establish fresh leads

   Imogen Baldrick Braddick



   Published: 10:04, 2 Dec 2023Updated: 10:04, 2 Dec 2023



GERMAN cops leading the probe into Madeleine McCann are scouring the files of missing kids cases - including another Brit girl who vanished on holiday.

Detectives remain convinced Christian B is responsible for Maddie’s disappearance - but they are said to be desperate for new leads.


Cops are scouring files of other missing kids for clues on Maddie - including Brit Cheryl Grimmer who vanished in Australia


The military joined police in the search for three-year-old CherylCredit: Caters News Agency

But officers are now locked in a “race against time” to establish fresh leads in the probe.

To try and force a breakthrough, a source close to the case revealed how cops have been conducting a cold-case review of other investigations about missing children.

Revealing details of the intelligence drive, the insider said: “History has shown again and again that children who have gone missing can either be found after many years - sometimes decades.

“Often there are similar trends within each of the cases that officers involved in the Maddie investigation think they lean on to try and drum up new leads.

“They desperately need something fresh to go on if they are to have any hope of pinning this on Christian B.

“Detectives are in a race against time and need new leads as soon as possible.

"By looking at old cases they are looking out for methods or ideas that were used by the police in finding information that led to the child being found or the case being solved.

“Many of the Portuguese detectives think it is another case of the German officers clutching at straws.

"But the view among the investigating cops is what have they got to lose?”

The Sun understands officers in the German team have been tasked to review old cases in recent months, and their work has stepped up since October.

Cases they’ve looked at are believed to include the disappearance of three-year-old Cheryl Grimmer.

The British toddler went missing more than 50 years ago in Australia - but last month it emerged a new witness had come forward.

The mystery of Cheryl’s disappearance has been compared with that of Madeleine, who was also three when she went missing in Portugal in 2007.

Both girls vanished while they were on holiday with their families - and they have never been found.

Other cases which German officers have been looking at as part of the intelligence gathering drive include Aranza Maria Ochoa Lopez, who went missing in 2018 in the US and was later found in Mexico.

Detectives have also been reviewing the case of Kayla Unbehaun who was abducted at the age of nine but found alive and well after a local shopkeeper recognised her from a Netflix documentary.

Kayla disappeared in 2017 and the case was featured on the streaming platform's Unsolved Mysteries series.

Kayla's father, Ryan Iskerka, had full custody of her at the time of her disappearance and informed the police she was missing after finding Kayla wasn't at her mother's house in South Elgin, Illinois on July 5, 2017.

It comes after German cops were said to be trying to track down the ex-lovers of Christian B.

Detectives believe his former partners hold vital clues in piecing together the “confused timeline” of the years the 54-year-old spent “drifting” around Praia De Luz.

Officers face a race against time in linking the convicted paedophile to Maddie’s disappearance.

The Sun told how detectives fear the investigation could collapse by the New Year unless a fresh lead is found.

A source close to the case said: "German detectives remain convinced Christian B was involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

"But they still have a very confused timeline of Christian B’s life spent on Praia De Luz.

"For years he is thought to have been drifting around the island living in a van and they want to understand more about what he was doing during this time and who he was seeing.

“The big problem they have is that relations with Portuguese cops are at an all-time low."

They added: "Hardly any intelligence is now being shared.

"This has therefore left German cops with little choice but to work backwards and to try and trace as many friends, colleagues, former girlfriends and lovers of Christian B as possible.

"They might hold vital clues.

"Cops remain sure someone, somewhere, knows information which could be of vital importance."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24888967/madeleine-mccann-cops-old-cases-missing-kids-new-clues/

Cops are locked in a 'race against time' to establish fresh leads



“Often there are similar trends within each of the cases that officers involved in the Maddie investigation think they lean on to try and drum up new leads.



“They desperately need something fresh to go on if they are to have any hope of pinning this on Christian B.



“Many of the Portuguese detectives think it is another case of the German officers clutching at straws



"But the view among the investigating cops is what have they got to lose?”

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Cases they’ve looked at are believed to include the disappearance of three-year-old Cheryl Grimmer.



The British toddler went missing more than 50 years ago in Australia - but last month it emerged a new witness had come forward.



Officers face a race against time in linking the convicted paedophile to Maddie’s disappearance.



“The big problem they have is that relations with Portuguese cops are at an all-time low."

They added: "Hardly any intelligence is now being shared



"Cops remain sure someone, somewhere, knows information which could be of vital importance."

what a strange collection, the case of kayla was also here in the news in may this year, but that was a typical parental abduction. 

the australian case i do remember i have seen a australian docu about, but i do not see anything that can be connected in place, manner if a abduction did take place, happened. only thing that could be said it both took place during a holiday and most people did speak english. and it stands as unsolved.

the aranza girl was also a typical parental abduction. by our news.

maybe they like to look only at solved cases with a young female victim, germany has little success in these themselves, they blew it in the peggy knoblauch case, the inga case is still unsolved, the katrice lee, also british is still unsolved. and many more. their track record is hardly existing at all. 

but it is of course from the sun, and still talks about the island called portugal. 

suggesting madeleine could be also the victim of a parental abduction, they would not think we would google these cases of course, is actually quite daring. i never have seen anything or any reason to think that the mccanns had a reason to become abductors themselves, or at least one of them to hide a living madeleine.

maybe imogen did miss out on a memo or two, about do not talk the mccanns in this case, you can never do that!!!!!!! policy, and lady google the island of portugal, because that is just stupid. using that twice does still not make that into a fact at all. 

i had some hope it could no longer go down in quality, i admit, i was wrong in that.

van der Leek - sounds like a vegetable delivery.

Alas Nick van der Leek is yet another culprit of capitalizing on the disappearance of a little 3 year old child, I know it's his line of work but sensationalizing such a tragic case is beyond the pale.  He might even make some good points on occasions, aspects worthy of note but that in my mind doesn't excuse his seizing the moment to make a few bob.  Turning a serious crime (unsolved) into profit is just not acceptable in my moral compass, taking fact and evidence and turning it into a fictional novel is so wrong on every level.

The list of profiteers has grown exponentially over the years.

Sorry but I just can't accept anyone making money or career advancement out of the almost certain death of a little girl - if they are so concerned for the victim why not offer their time and effort for nothing?

DOUBT: The Madeleine McCann Mystery (Gone Girl Book 1)



MADELEINE MCCANN: DEEPER INTO DARKNESS (Abduction Diary Book Book 2)



That's in addition to his Crime Rocket YouTube channel.

Every time I think I've seen the last of the name Christian Brueckner he creeps back in focus through the back door - why is it so important to keep him in view, when most of the news is not even relative to the case of Madeleine McCann?  Or do I already know the answer to that ....

ETA:  If I remember rightly reference to his book was removed from CMOMM by admin because he was considered to be too controversial and confrontational in attitude across social media.

Well I wish they wouldn't go off on a tangent trying to rewrite history .

it is quite a common dutch surname, some believe because of the combination of van and der before it it is most likely it comes from a place or city called leek, there is one in friesland of course. but leek could also be from laak what is old dutch for a field. at least it is all the fault of that little french guy, that got the idea we needed surnames for all, so some also just used a bit of a fantastic mind in all that happening. 

and indeed this guy is known as a avid writer about what he called true crime, multi publisher even. so it is mostly also a job. 

and cakelover can certainly be right, and you never know, not all choose a nickname that can be recognized.
this one at least have used old fashioned scissors or the modern select and nick buttons on his keyboard. 
i do not like his chosen format, showing pictures of other players when call out a name , or showing titles of newspaper articles about a different bit, so i usually only listen to these. it becomes even far less confusion if i take on a sudoko or 3 during listening, if i do. the lack of news content makes it not very interesting. 

but he did not read all, because of his mismatching how hb talked cb in the case. most have been missing that, or do not want the memory they already had missed out on that story well over 5 years ago. 
there is al least no connection to netflix documentaries or writers who do better to get pensioned off. 

what all these types call research must have gotten a change in meaning of that word, most is very flimsy and the easy to get stuff. it is more about quantity than it was ever near quality. i do not even have to agrre with their opinions at all, but both sides, okay that is not a diversion by scientific standard, but let's just use anti mccann and pro mccann, do it most times just sloppy. 

the idea anyone could loose a reputation, they never ever had, in relation to the media is just ridiculous.

CaKeLoveR wrote:We're on to them.

Lock stock and barrel

That's not a threat .... it's a youfemism .

Good grief, give it a rest will you?

This poor little child's name crops up time and time again when the gutter press want to keep the name Brueckner associated with the name Madeleine McCann and any other case of a missing child that's cropped over the past 20+ years.

Over two years ago it was reported Christian Brueckner had nothing to do with the disappearance of Inga Gehricke, any more than he is connected in any way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - and no, there is no similarity between the two cases.  Inga Gehricke is not the German Madeleine McCann !!!

The usual pick 'n mix to add colour to an otherwise insipid and factually incorrect tabloid report..

Hope of a breakthrough in 'German Madeleine McCann' investigation as cold case sniffer dogs home in on new location eight years after Inga Gehricke, 5, vanished without a trace

   Inga Gehricke disappeared in 2015 during a family barbecue in Saxony-Anhalt
   As with Madeleine McCann, she has never been found by investigators

By Chris Jewers

Published: 16:08, 6 December 2023 | Updated: 17:43, 6 December 2023

The parents of a five-year-old girl who vanished in 2015 have been offered a glimmer of hope with the news that cold case sniffer dogs have been deployed in the search.

The case quickly drew comparisons with the 2007 disappearance of Madeline McCann, a British girl who vanished from her family's hotel room in Portugal at the age of three

Blonde, blue-eyed Inga Gehricke disappeared on May 2, 2015 during a family barbecue in a forest in Germany's Saxony-Anhalt state.

The case quickly drew comparisons with the 2007 disappearance of Madeline McCann, who vanished from her family's apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, at the age of three.

Despite extensive searches, media coverage and nationwide appeals, Inga - like Madeleine - has never been found, with the mystery still hanging over Germany today.

But Inga's parents Jens-Uwe and Victoria have been offered new hope this week, with investigators deploying sniffer dogs to the region she vanished from, with teams scouring woodland near to where she vanished.

Former cop Axel Hehl, an ex-police officer who founded the 'Victim Recovery Dogs' association, said he participated in the search with his cold case sniffer dogs that specialise in searching for corpses.

Axel said: 'The trained dogs' noses sniff out smells and the smallest particles that arise when a person decomposes.'

The dogs were taken for investigation in the Uchtspringe area on Saturday, December 2, near to Wilhelmshof, Stendal where Inga vanished.

Axel told local media: 'After our advance team in the summer, we were now on the search with four dogs.'

According to reports, the dogs stopped at one spot, seemingly sniffing something.

He added: 'I'm 85 per cent sure there's something there.'

The dogs cannot have sniffed animal remains, as they are trained to distinguish human from animal bones, according to local media.

The private detectives and lawyers who participated in the investigation, said: 'We will search tirelessly for the needle in the haystack.

'There is a lead, we just have to find it.'

Previously Tamara Zieschang, the Lower Saxon Interior Minister, had revealed a new squad of investigators has been formed to crack the Inga case.

Stung by criticism that previous efforts have not turned up a single new clue, she declared a new shake-up to 'reorganise the case management.'

The Christian Democratic Union Minister said at the time: 'Police in Halle (Saale) will support Stendal police. This step is part of a reorganisation of the case management after years of investigations without any results.'

Local media reported on April 25 that the new investigators will be part of a team dedicated to 'crimes against life'.

She did not, however, say how many officers the unit will consist of.

The decision comes on the back of immense criticism of police over a string of blunders over the Inga case, which was initially dropped in 2017.

Image of Madeleine McCann
Berlin-based lawyer Steffen Tzschoppe, who represents Inga's family, told politicians in February that 1,900 pages of investigation files on the activities of a convicted paedophile had simply disappeared.

And earlier this year, it emerged that police had found a sex doll in a convicted paedophile's abandoned house that they bizarrely revealed resembled Inga.

Investigators then checked on a new lead that linked her disappearance with convicted paedophile Martin H., 41, from Berlin.

Lawyer Tzschoppe told the Bild newspaper: 'He originally comes from near Stendal, not far from Wilhelmshof [district], where Inga disappeared.'

The lawyer claimed authorities have a 1,900-page file on the offender, who is already serving prison for previous sexual abuses of children.

The officers were reportedly puzzled when they rushed inside the offender's ruined house in the area of Scheuder, near the town of Dessau, Saxony Anhalt, and found bricked windows, soundproof doors and countless mattresses placed inside a basement dungeon.

The dungeon could only be reached through a hatch estimated at 40 by 40 centimetres (15.7 by 15.7 inches) in size, police reported.

They additionally discovered full bondage kits and sex toys.

Later on, during their search of his Berlin flat, they found silicone sex dolls, one of which reportedly bore a striking resemblance with then-five-year-old Inga.

Tzschoppe said: 'In May 2015, shortly after Inga's disappearance, this offender used an excavator on his property.'

Martin H. had reportedly also dismantled his car on the property at the same time, claimed the lawyer.

Unwilling to reveal too many details, he added: 'The Stendal investigators dropped the trail because they believed the man's alibi.

'In my opinion, however, the alibi is very doubtful.'

Tzschoppe pointed out the mistakes in the previous investigations and revealed that detectives hadn't analysed the paedophile's extensive file yet for further possible links.

He claimed that they reportedly stopped further examinations after only 11 days of investigations in 2019.

Also, in 2019, a high-ranking police officer allegedly admitted not having any experience with homicide cases after he had been appointed the head of a new special unit assembled to solve her disappearance.

And Christian Brueckner, a suspect in the McCann case, is reportedly also among the suspects to have been involved in the disappearance of Inga.

Image of Christian Brueckner
Christian Brueckner, a suspect in the McCann case, is reportedly among those suspected of being involved in the disappearance of Inga

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832849/Inga-Gehricke-Hope-breakthrough-German-Madeleine-McCann-investigation.html

What is the point of using dogs ?
They are notoriously unreliable,  Prof McCann and Dr Kate said so, so it must be true

But I loved this sentence
"The case quickly drew comparisons with the 2007 disappearance of Madeline McCann,"
they fail to say
"The case quickly drew comparisons with the 2007 disappearance of Madeline McCann, where dogs alerted to human cadaverine and blood in 19 places associated with the suspects, and to no other places . . ."

the overall german sentiment about these alerts is more wait and see, because it was an alert, some even say by 4 different dogs outside. so the place the alert was given is not very exclusive to this case. and these dogs could be just too good, it could also be archaeological, or war relics.

it is a search by a private initiativ related to the family, but the handlers and dogs sound good enough. the leader of the dog group is an former police officer. and the have finds enough to their name. the dogs are said very specific trained to human remains. 

there are often so-called amateur groups, that have a very good record in finding people or bodies. a lot long time ago grew out of deserving to be called amateur, they work like the best pro's can, they have often very high standards and most you can easily get a look at their results. 
it is often remarkable what they can deliver in results, with pretty low public funding and the odd sponsor. but they have and know their place and they are simply needed. 

it is just another case that needs an answer. 

there is some talk on rtl germany about finding some sticky tape too.

but the problem is these dogs are usually trained to all kinds of human remains, and we simply still have no idea how much they truly need to give an alert. and we are as humans not always able to put the same effort in looking to what they are reacting too, something that most likely happened in the jersey case. we only can guess that what we call out as a finding of human remains are indeed the stuff the dogs gave their alerts on. 
the handicap is in the human parts of the use of these dogs.

it is not working like these modern metal detection devices, you can just simply put them over it, to know you got all the metal the device reacted on. the scent of death can be there from just what is kept in the soil, or from a much deeper area, than we looked. also bone fragments or even teeth can be very small and hard to recognize for us. and because the scent of death are gasses, they can travel through and even in all kind of porous material. to a certain degree you can retest ground with the dogs in another environment, that is free of any scents of death. but it will not be very effective in an outdoor terrain. 

5a was a very different situation, it was a pretty modern building with closed floors, from the mid or early eighties, so there would also be paperwork to use , to look through its history, the pj did that and no known deaths have been known before may 2007. also there was a direct connection to the victim and 5a. 

so even these dogs cannot put a time on their findings, or reflect it to a specific body, you have much more documentation to work from. and yes a likely or possible link is well enough to investigate it. 

there is quite a lot new research on the dogs and the scent of death from after 2007, the findings in that are only news to us, the processes have been the same in all ages before 2007. 
still we can not beat the dogs. and most times there is no need to beat the dogs, working with a team effort works already great enough. 

and you only can show being stupid, if you decide to tell the world you are sure you know, the dogs must have be badly trained, they do not often have visitors, so very unlikely you was there at all ever. or they must have just sniffed traces from some wild life or animal remains, that is stupid to say too, because you never can tell what the dogs did smell, because we as humans are known and proven as not being able to be capable of doing that. 

and not anyone who works with and around these dogs expect 100% score, they are seen, accepted and used to be a tool to find possible evidence in a way we can not do by our own human also incompetent competences. we do not throw a microscope out because there was no usable dna to find. 
we also do not burn police cars because they did not arrive on time. 

it even works pretty easy, you ask the dog to do something it was trained for, if the dog alerts, you simply have to start your own investigation, you can only prove what the dog reacted on by what you find. a complete corps is even the easy stuff. and you can check them on much less material in training, because you, okay usually your training hand does know what was put in the tube. 

if a dog trained to find the scent of death that exist from a human body after death alerts, the work for the dog is done. we are simply not even able to prove a false positive. a false negative is not possible too, but we would not ask the dogs, if we already not have known that. the answer we cab deliver, we could not found something to what the dog alerted too, and usually because we are not competent to do that. the failing is not in the dog, but in us. so degrading the dog is always showing how stupid humans too often are. 

there are no fool proof, or 100% tools in use with law enforcement. it does mean when the use of tools do give results you work with what you get. even dna and fingerprints only serve with most likely in the field. 
it is used under reasonable doubt use, not under 100% proven. 

and it would be quite stupid to get a dog in 5a, transported from the uk even, if there had been a body behind a sofa or in the trunk of a car. 

and the dogs in the inga case have even a very different environment to work in. still it is said all 4 did gave a alert. they have done what they are trained for. it is now up to humans to get that into findings, and  to tell if it are findings that could tell something and if it is most likely also part of the inga case. 
so wait and see is probably a wise option. 

the inga has even much more in common with the katrice lee case, a much older case, the uk media likes to forget about, and the germans too. both young girls, disappeared in day time, outside their own homes, with family members present and near, and both in germany. both had not to open windows or doors at all. 
so it is far more a katrice lee kind of case, than there are similarities with that of madeleine mccann.
the bitter similarity all 3 cases met, they are sadly still unsolved and not done justice. and all 3 and others that share that faith deserve that. 

at this moment the german police has no reason to implicate cb into this case. are they 100% sure, most likely not, it always will be guided by the information and knowledge the investigation has up to that moment, new information can change all and everything. investigations are not static. 
the same is going in all other cases once bound by just people or the media to cb. and even in the made;leine mccann case there are still no charges, no arrest, only talking. and that has been the same for hundreds of others that other countries their police forces looked into.

Again !?!

IN THE SPOTLIGHT Whinging Christian B hits out at Madeleine McCann search while his lawyers ‘have cruel nickname for desperate hunt’

Christian B's lawyers reportedly get 'furious' if anyone asks how he's coping

Rob Pattinson

Published: 11:13, 7 Dec 2023Updated: 11:13, 7 Dec 2023

MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B has whinged he finds it TOUGH being accused of snatching the tot.

The convicted paedophile and rapist, 46, has told pals he “struggles with the pressure” of being accused of “one of the most famous crimes in the world”.

And he finds it “unfair” investigators have refused to share any of their evidence against him with his lawyers.

A source said: “Christian B has regularly told pals he speaks to from prison how tough it is being the Madeleine suspect.

“It makes his lawyers furious if anyone ever asks how Christian B is doing.

“They reply, ‘how is he supposed to be doing?’ Like it’s a stupid question or something.



“It’s clear he is struggling with the pressure of being so firmly in the spotlight of the world - even if he is behind bars.

“He hates being suspected of one of the most famous crimes in the world. And his lawyers hate that he is constantly the subject of headlines.

“He is behind bars for crimes he has already been convicted of committing.

“But I think he forgets there is a family out there who has lost their little girl.”

It has also emerged Christian B maintains his innocence privately to his lawyers over Madeleine’s disappearance.

Discussions between the drifter and his solicitor Friedrich Fülscher are protected by the same privacy laws as legal clients in the UK.

But sources say Fülscher would not stand up in court and protect Christian B in court if he had received a cast-iron admission over the alleged crimes.

A source said: “What a client says to his lawyer is protected in Germany in the same way as in the UK.

“But Fülscher is not going to stand up in public for any client and say he's convinced of their innocence when they have told him something different.”

Christian B's team are said to have been buoyed by recent claims German cops failed to find physical evidence tying him to Madeleine during a lake-dig in Portugal earlier this year.

They are privately said to have nicknamed it the “fruitless search.”

Christian B's self-pitying has been revealed after it was this week confirmed he would stand trial for five counts of sex crimes in February.

They include three rapes, one of Irish girl, Hazel Behan, who was just 20 when she was viciously attacked during a four-hour ordeal in Portugal.

Two other rapes are understood to have been filmed at the small farmhouse he rented just outside Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann was snatched in May 2007.

He is also facing the sexual assault of a young German girl, 10, on a beach near Praia da Luz, a month before Madeleine went missing in 2007.

Christian B is currently in jail in Germany for the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz.

Madeleine disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast while on holiday with parents Kate and Gerry, now both 55, of Rothley, Leics.

Detectives claim to have "concrete evidence" that Madeleine is dead but admit to have nothing “forensic”. They have yet to produce further material which could lead to a charge.

Mr Fülscher declined to comment when contacted by The Sun.

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, who named Christian B as the prime suspect in the McCann case, also declined to comment.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24974920/christian-finds-tough-being-madeleine-mccann-suspect/

Madeleine McCann suspect 'struggling' with lawyers concerned for his welfare

By Jack Walters

Published: 08/12/2023 - 13:30

The 46-year-old is currently serving a sentence for raping an American pensioner in 2005

The prime suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance case has been struggling with the pressure of being accused of being involved in the unsolved crime.

Christian Brueckner, 46, is said to have told friends about how he is feeling about the accusations made about him.

The prime suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance case has been struggling with the pressure of being accused of being involved in the unsolved crime.

Christian Brueckner, 46, is said to have told friends about how he is feeling about the accusations made about him.

McCann, aged just three at the time, went missing from her bed while on holiday with her family in Portugal in 2007.

Brueckner is also said to have found it “unfair” that investigators have not yet shared any of their evidence against him with his legal team.

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He maintains his innocence to his lawyers but has been connected to the toddler’s disappearance for sometime.

"Christian B has regularly told pals he speaks to from prison how tough it is being the Madeleine suspect," a source told The Sun.

"It makes his lawyers furious if anyone ever asks how Christian B is doing.

"It’s clear he is struggling with the pressure of being so firmly in the spotlight of the world - even if he is behind bars.

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"He hates being suspected of one of the most famous crimes in the world. And his lawyers hate that he is constantly the subject of headlines.

"He is behind bars for crimes he has already been convicted of committing.

"But I think he forgets there is a family out there who has lost their little girl."

Brueckner is serving a seven year jail sentece in Oldenburg after being convicted of raping an American pensioner in Portugal in 2005.

The suspect’s lawyers have described the hunt for evidence as a “fruitless search”.

A source said: “What a client says to his lawyer is protected in Germany in the same way as in the UK.

“But [his solicitor Friedrich] Fülscher is not going to stand up in public for any client and say he's convinced of their innocence when they have told him something different.”

https://www.gbnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-update-suspect-christian-brueckner-struggling

So no appearance before a court of law in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann ever likely - is it.

I frankly don't believe a word of any of it.

GB News wrote:
But [his solicitor Friedrich] Fülscher is not going to stand up in public for any client and say he's convinced of their innocence when they have told him something different.”

Nice little titbit added there to feed the salacious appetite.

I can just imagine the websleuths who believe there is some merit in the accusations made against Christian Brueckner, chomping on this for the next decade, trying to deduce what Brueckner might have told his solicitor.

Mmmm, let me guess .... 'she didn't scream'?