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Note the Dutch title says ‘Missing’ not Abducted.
In English with Dutch undertitles.
No sign of CB back then...
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Maddy special on German TV gets hundreds of calls from public - 17th October 2017
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Somebody had a ‘Freudian slip up’ there I think?
The Dutch commentator describes how the British Police have issued a new age progressed Photo of Madeleine, showing how she would look then. The usual description of how the little Girl was abducted from her holiday home on the Algarve follows.
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How does this ^^^ relate to the subject matter of this thread?
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Discovery+ Prime Suspect - Madeleine McCann Case Episode 3
Sandra Felgueiras:
The 3rd of May 2017 Christian B is watching a documentary about Madeleine inside a bar [dramatic pause] he drinks too much and he says to some friend that he knew everything about her and that she was dead [dramatic music]. This friend went to the police and told what he has said ...
Voice over:
This explanation of how the German authorities came to consider Christian B a suspect has not been officially confirmed but the prosecution has confirmed they did receive a tip-off about Christian B following the broadcast of a ten year anniversary report.
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Voice over:
This was the second time the German authorities had received a tip naming Christian B who might be someone involved in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
The first tip came in 2013 [twenty thirteen] from an anonymous caller to a German TV show
Journalist:
Was it two different persons who contacted the police these times mentioning Christian B?
Hans Christian Wolter:
I can't give you details of the tips that were received in 2013 and 2017. The second tip prompted the German Federal Criminal Police to investigate. Then you have to determine what incriminating evidence there is against this individual.
If you don't believe me just watch!
Shame on you Ms Felgueiras, have you no conscience? The core of this horror is the disappearance of a three year old child, how can you sell your soul to the devil for gold? Frankly you disgust me - and that goes for anyone else who tries to capitalize or make some career advancement on the back of this case, or any other tragedy involving life or death!
The informant was Manfred Seyferth perchance? He appears to be willing for shilling to tell a ripping yarn or two and he was featured in episodes 1 and 2 of this exposé.
Who is your financier Herr Wolters?
The 2013 tip off [sic] was in all probability a result of the BBC Crimewatch Madeleine McCann Special broadcast on 13th October 2013 and it's spin-off aired on German television, uploaded up-page #602. According to ex DCI Andy Redwood the Crimewatch team were inundated with calls following the production and according to reports the German authorities received something in the region of 500 calls following their televised report.
The tip-offs referred to by Herr Wolters were given six and ten years after the event - Madeleine McCann's reported disappearance. The Madeleine McCann story has made headlines across the globe from the beginning to present day - can anyone in their right mind believe that a TV programme in 2013 and another in 2017 would awaken a dormant memory of days gone by, when nothing stirred hours, days, weeks after the event?
It's tantamount to believing ex-DCI Andy Redwoods other revelation, that of one Julian Totman stepping forward years later claiming to 'possibly' be Jane Tanner's mystery abductor - latterly affectionately known as Tannerman!
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t17053-the-only-evidence-of-madeleine-having-been-abducted-came-from-an-alleged-sighting-of-a-man-with-a-child-by-their-friend-jane-tanner#433304
I feel a publication coming on ....
Sandra Felgueiras:
The 3rd of May 2017 Christian B is watching a documentary about Madeleine inside a bar [dramatic pause] he drinks too much and he says to some friend that he knew everything about her and that she was dead [dramatic music]. This friend went to the police and told what he has said ...
Voice over:
This explanation of how the German authorities came to consider Christian B a suspect has not been officially confirmed but the prosecution has confirmed they did receive a tip-off about Christian B following the broadcast of a ten year anniversary report.
~~~~~~
Voice over:
This was the second time the German authorities had received a tip naming Christian B who might be someone involved in Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
The first tip came in 2013 [twenty thirteen] from an anonymous caller to a German TV show
Journalist:
Was it two different persons who contacted the police these times mentioning Christian B?
Hans Christian Wolter:
I can't give you details of the tips that were received in 2013 and 2017. The second tip prompted the German Federal Criminal Police to investigate. Then you have to determine what incriminating evidence there is against this individual.
If you don't believe me just watch!
Shame on you Ms Felgueiras, have you no conscience? The core of this horror is the disappearance of a three year old child, how can you sell your soul to the devil for gold? Frankly you disgust me - and that goes for anyone else who tries to capitalize or make some career advancement on the back of this case, or any other tragedy involving life or death!
The informant was Manfred Seyferth perchance? He appears to be willing for shilling to tell a ripping yarn or two and he was featured in episodes 1 and 2 of this exposé.
Who is your financier Herr Wolters?
The 2013 tip off [sic] was in all probability a result of the BBC Crimewatch Madeleine McCann Special broadcast on 13th October 2013 and it's spin-off aired on German television, uploaded up-page #602. According to ex DCI Andy Redwood the Crimewatch team were inundated with calls following the production and according to reports the German authorities received something in the region of 500 calls following their televised report.
The tip-offs referred to by Herr Wolters were given six and ten years after the event - Madeleine McCann's reported disappearance. The Madeleine McCann story has made headlines across the globe from the beginning to present day - can anyone in their right mind believe that a TV programme in 2013 and another in 2017 would awaken a dormant memory of days gone by, when nothing stirred hours, days, weeks after the event?
It's tantamount to believing ex-DCI Andy Redwoods other revelation, that of one Julian Totman stepping forward years later claiming to 'possibly' be Jane Tanner's mystery abductor - latterly affectionately known as Tannerman!
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t17053-the-only-evidence-of-madeleine-having-been-abducted-came-from-an-alleged-sighting-of-a-man-with-a-child-by-their-friend-jane-tanner#433304
I feel a publication coming on ....
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The 3rd of May 2017 PeterMac is watching a documentary about Madeleine at home with a friend [dramatic pause] he sips another straight malt and says to his friend that he knows a huge amount about her and that she was dead [dramatic music].
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Every sentient human being in the entire world KNOWS KNOWS that Madeleine is dead
Half the world knows knows a huge amount about Madeleine.
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Every sentient human being in the entire world KNOWS KNOWS that Madeleine is dead
Half the world knows knows a huge amount about Madeleine.
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In the weeks following Madeleine's demise, a substantial reward was offered for information leading to the whereabouts of her.
The people that knew Brueckner and there were plenty of them, would have shopped him to the police in a heartbeat, if they thought there was any chance of getting their hands on any money.
It makes no sense at all, after all these years, his so called friends have become so "helpful" to the police.
They knew nothing then, and they know nothing now, unless of course, they have been given a financial incentive.
The people that knew Brueckner and there were plenty of them, would have shopped him to the police in a heartbeat, if they thought there was any chance of getting their hands on any money.
It makes no sense at all, after all these years, his so called friends have become so "helpful" to the police.
They knew nothing then, and they know nothing now, unless of course, they have been given a financial incentive.
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crusader wrote:In the weeks following Madeleine's demise, a substantial reward was offered for information leading to the whereabouts of her.
The people that knew Brueckner and there were plenty of them, would have shopped him to the police in a heartbeat, if they thought there was any chance of getting their hands on any money.
It makes no sense at all, after all these years, his so called friends have become so "helpful" to the police.
They knew nothing then, and they know nothing now, unless of course, they have been given a financial incentive.
Unless they have been saving their best Suspect until last? In reserve for the impending ECHR decision and the ending of the Portuguese statute of limitations?
How much did Helge B receive in Athens for his statements?
Are rewards in England not paid out ON CONVICTION of the Suspect due to information received?
Was the Hotel swept for bugs because no one should hear what he was saying?
Or because of what he was told to say?
Why is most of that Statement blacked out?
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Oh Martin the Fricker is back on the case.. :
Madeleine McCann detectives want cash for another year to look into Christian Brueckner
EXCLUSIVE: Met Police chiefs want more Home Office funds to investigate German paedophile Christian Brueckner - the operation has cost £12.5million since 2011 but its current Special Grant expires this month
ByMartin Fricker
19:00, 18 MAR 2021
Scotland Yard wants funding for another year investigating the German paedophile suspected of Madeleine McCann’s murder.
Met chiefs have sent details of their “anticipated spending” on Operation Grange until March 2022 to the Home Office.
It comes ahead of a summit between German, British and Portuguese detectives in Lisbon in the next two months.
Police hope to find the “missing piece of the jigsaw” that could snare Christian Brueckner.
German and Portuguese investigators will interview key witnesses in the Algarve who knew the drifter and convicted paedophile.
The operation has cost £12.5million since 2011 but its current Home Office Special Grant expires this month.
Ministers are expected to agree to funding another six months, at a cost of £350,000.
Brueckner, 44, was named as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance by German prosecutors in June.
They believe he abducted her from her parents’ holiday apartment in Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
And they claim to have evidence that Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics, is dead.
Brueckner is in jail in Hanover, Germany, for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters recently admitted that without new clues, he will never be quizzed over Madeleine.
Brueckner’s lawyer Friedrich Fulscher insists he has nothing to do with her disappearance.
Scotland Yard refused to comment. The Home Office said: “Any requests for funding will be considered as usual.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-want-cash-23755484
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Madeleine McCann detectives want cash for another year to look into Christian Brueckner
EXCLUSIVE: Met Police chiefs want more Home Office funds to investigate German paedophile Christian Brueckner - the operation has cost £12.5million since 2011 but its current Special Grant expires this month
ByMartin Fricker
19:00, 18 MAR 2021
Scotland Yard wants funding for another year investigating the German paedophile suspected of Madeleine McCann’s murder.
Met chiefs have sent details of their “anticipated spending” on Operation Grange until March 2022 to the Home Office.
It comes ahead of a summit between German, British and Portuguese detectives in Lisbon in the next two months.
Police hope to find the “missing piece of the jigsaw” that could snare Christian Brueckner.
German and Portuguese investigators will interview key witnesses in the Algarve who knew the drifter and convicted paedophile.
The operation has cost £12.5million since 2011 but its current Home Office Special Grant expires this month.
Ministers are expected to agree to funding another six months, at a cost of £350,000.
Brueckner, 44, was named as the prime suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance by German prosecutors in June.
They believe he abducted her from her parents’ holiday apartment in Praia da Luz days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
And they claim to have evidence that Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics, is dead.
Brueckner is in jail in Hanover, Germany, for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters recently admitted that without new clues, he will never be quizzed over Madeleine.
Brueckner’s lawyer Friedrich Fulscher insists he has nothing to do with her disappearance.
Scotland Yard refused to comment. The Home Office said: “Any requests for funding will be considered as usual.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-want-cash-23755484
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I wonder who next year's celebrity will be .... Willy Wonker?
It's getting weaker and weaker and weaker.
Time to throw in the towel and accept the inevitable - this ain't going away no matter how much trash you heap on it.
Decent people ain't so easily duped so quit while you are ahead - you have been making fools of yourselves for years, now it's time to drop the curtain.
The fat lady has sung her swan song.
Justice will prevail.
It's getting weaker and weaker and weaker.
Time to throw in the towel and accept the inevitable - this ain't going away no matter how much trash you heap on it.
Decent people ain't so easily duped so quit while you are ahead - you have been making fools of yourselves for years, now it's time to drop the curtain.
The fat lady has sung her swan song.
Justice will prevail.
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One final stab..
MADDIE PROBE Madeleine McCann cops ask for extra cash to fund Christian B investigation for another year to snare main suspect
Katie Davis
18 Mar 2021, 21:39Updated: 18 Mar 2021, 21:39
DETECTIVES looking into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann want more cash to investigate German paedophile Christian B.
The operation has cost more than £12.5million since 2011 - but Met police chiefs have requested more funding in a bid to find vital evidence that could snare the man they believe is responsible for Madeleine's kidnap and murder.
Madeleine disappeared in May 2007 from the holiday apartment she was staying in at Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast with parents Kate and Gerry and her siblings.
Convicted paedophile and rapist Christian B was named by German police last year as the prime suspect for her abduction and murder.
Scotland Yard's special grant from the Home Office is set to expire this month, but bosses hope to be given further cash to continue probing Christian B for another year.
A summit between British, German and Portuguese detectives is due to be held in Lisbon in the next two months.
Ministers are expected to allocate a further £350,000 to fund a further six months of the investigation, reports the Mirror.
Prosecutors in Germany said last June there was ''concrete evidence'' that Madeleine was dead - but have not revealed anything else on the case.
Suspect Christian B was living locally to where Madeleine was reportedly snatched almost 14 years ago - just days before her fourth birthday.
Police said his mobile was in the vicinity of the Ocean Club apartments the hour before she vanished and his paedophile past makes him a prime suspect.
The lawyer representing Christian B this month admitted he has considered the possibility his client may be guilty.
Friedrich Fulscher has been representing the suspect since he was named by German authorities.
He has always insisted the convicted rapist and paedophile is innocent of any involvement but has now explained his stance in a new TV documentary on the case.
Speaking on Discovery + Prime Suspect: The Madeleine McCann Case, Mr Fulscher, also revealed how he meets his client three times a week in prison isolation as he is a convicted sex attacker.
Mr Fulscher said: "Of course it has crossed my mind, I always consider the fact that my client is guilty of a crime. Of course you think about that. The first training you learn as a defence lawyer is that you should always accept the possibility that your client is lying to you.
''That doesn't mean that I believe that to be the case here but you always have to consider the possibility.''
But Mr Fulscher added he believed the case would never come to court as there is no hard evidence and prosecutors in Germany are simply trying to pin as many sex crimes on Christian B as they can.
He has been linked to ten attacks or disappearances involving children and women across Europe since the late 1990s but has not been charged with anything.
Even even, now nine months after being identified as the prime suspect for Madeleine's disappearance, he has not faced trial.
He said: ''All sorts of new allegations have been raised against my client, for all sorts of crimes, sex crimes. It seems that they are intent on pinning all the missing persons cases in the last 15 years on him.''
Mr Fulscher added: ''Doubt is the one factor which can be decisive in a criminal case. If doubts remain after the hearing of all the evidence in court as to whether the defendant is guilty, the court must acquit.
''It's the maxim of 'in dubbio pro reo', when in doubt for the accused.''
Christian B is currently in Wolfenbuttel prison in solitary isolation as he is a sex offender.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14386365/madeleine-mccann-cops-extra-cash-christian-b-investigation/
MADDIE PROBE Madeleine McCann cops ask for extra cash to fund Christian B investigation for another year to snare main suspect
Katie Davis
18 Mar 2021, 21:39Updated: 18 Mar 2021, 21:39
DETECTIVES looking into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann want more cash to investigate German paedophile Christian B.
The operation has cost more than £12.5million since 2011 - but Met police chiefs have requested more funding in a bid to find vital evidence that could snare the man they believe is responsible for Madeleine's kidnap and murder.
Madeleine disappeared in May 2007 from the holiday apartment she was staying in at Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve coast with parents Kate and Gerry and her siblings.
Convicted paedophile and rapist Christian B was named by German police last year as the prime suspect for her abduction and murder.
Scotland Yard's special grant from the Home Office is set to expire this month, but bosses hope to be given further cash to continue probing Christian B for another year.
A summit between British, German and Portuguese detectives is due to be held in Lisbon in the next two months.
Ministers are expected to allocate a further £350,000 to fund a further six months of the investigation, reports the Mirror.
Prosecutors in Germany said last June there was ''concrete evidence'' that Madeleine was dead - but have not revealed anything else on the case.
Suspect Christian B was living locally to where Madeleine was reportedly snatched almost 14 years ago - just days before her fourth birthday.
Police said his mobile was in the vicinity of the Ocean Club apartments the hour before she vanished and his paedophile past makes him a prime suspect.
The lawyer representing Christian B this month admitted he has considered the possibility his client may be guilty.
Friedrich Fulscher has been representing the suspect since he was named by German authorities.
He has always insisted the convicted rapist and paedophile is innocent of any involvement but has now explained his stance in a new TV documentary on the case.
Speaking on Discovery + Prime Suspect: The Madeleine McCann Case, Mr Fulscher, also revealed how he meets his client three times a week in prison isolation as he is a convicted sex attacker.
Mr Fulscher said: "Of course it has crossed my mind, I always consider the fact that my client is guilty of a crime. Of course you think about that. The first training you learn as a defence lawyer is that you should always accept the possibility that your client is lying to you.
''That doesn't mean that I believe that to be the case here but you always have to consider the possibility.''
But Mr Fulscher added he believed the case would never come to court as there is no hard evidence and prosecutors in Germany are simply trying to pin as many sex crimes on Christian B as they can.
He has been linked to ten attacks or disappearances involving children and women across Europe since the late 1990s but has not been charged with anything.
Even even, now nine months after being identified as the prime suspect for Madeleine's disappearance, he has not faced trial.
He said: ''All sorts of new allegations have been raised against my client, for all sorts of crimes, sex crimes. It seems that they are intent on pinning all the missing persons cases in the last 15 years on him.''
Mr Fulscher added: ''Doubt is the one factor which can be decisive in a criminal case. If doubts remain after the hearing of all the evidence in court as to whether the defendant is guilty, the court must acquit.
''It's the maxim of 'in dubbio pro reo', when in doubt for the accused.''
Christian B is currently in Wolfenbuttel prison in solitary isolation as he is a sex offender.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14386365/madeleine-mccann-cops-extra-cash-christian-b-investigation/
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Funding for Operation Grange
Posted by: HO News Team, Posted on: 5 June 2019
Clarification on the funding for Operation Grange.
There is continued interest from the media and the public concerning funding for Operation Grange, the Metropolitan Police Service’s (MPS) investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
We have received a request from the MPS to extend funding for Operation Grange until 31 March 2020. Funding for the investigation is provided by the Home Office through Special Grant funding which is usually available to police forces when they face significant or exceptional costs.
All applications for Special Grant funding are considered carefully on their individual merits, however, decisions are made in batches to allow us to better consider the impact on the overall policing budget.
Due to this, the next round of Special Grant funding will not be decided until October, however we have written to Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime in the meantime with assurance that the MPS will receive a similar level of funding for Operation Grange for 2019/20 as it did for the previous year.
Last year the Home Office provided £300,000 of funding to the MPS. The cost of Operation Grange to date is £11.75m.
Funding for Special Grant applications can be paid retrospectively for operational work already done in the same financial year. As usual, full details of any Special Grant awards in 2019/20 will be published after the end of the financial year.
The Home Office maintains an ongoing dialogue with the MPS regarding funding for Operation Grange.
When considering special grants applications, the Home Office does not take a view on whether an investigation should continue, which would be an operational matter for the police.
As this is an ongoing police investigation, questions about Operation Grange should be directed to the MPS.
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/
Posted by: HO News Team, Posted on: 5 June 2019
Clarification on the funding for Operation Grange.
There is continued interest from the media and the public concerning funding for Operation Grange, the Metropolitan Police Service’s (MPS) investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
We have received a request from the MPS to extend funding for Operation Grange until 31 March 2020. Funding for the investigation is provided by the Home Office through Special Grant funding which is usually available to police forces when they face significant or exceptional costs.
All applications for Special Grant funding are considered carefully on their individual merits, however, decisions are made in batches to allow us to better consider the impact on the overall policing budget.
Due to this, the next round of Special Grant funding will not be decided until October, however we have written to Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime in the meantime with assurance that the MPS will receive a similar level of funding for Operation Grange for 2019/20 as it did for the previous year.
Last year the Home Office provided £300,000 of funding to the MPS. The cost of Operation Grange to date is £11.75m.
Funding for Special Grant applications can be paid retrospectively for operational work already done in the same financial year. As usual, full details of any Special Grant awards in 2019/20 will be published after the end of the financial year.
The Home Office maintains an ongoing dialogue with the MPS regarding funding for Operation Grange.
When considering special grants applications, the Home Office does not take a view on whether an investigation should continue, which would be an operational matter for the police.
As this is an ongoing police investigation, questions about Operation Grange should be directed to the MPS.
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/
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Madeleine McCann probe gets 'extra £350k from Home Office' taking total to over £12m
The Home Office has confirmed extra funding has been afforded to Operation Grange to continue the investigation in Madeleine McCann's disappearance until March 2021
ByRyan MerrifieldReporter
02:59, 1 OCT 2020
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-gets-extra-22772283
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This is not Dodge City, you can't put a price on a head .
The Home Office has confirmed extra funding has been afforded to Operation Grange to continue the investigation in Madeleine McCann's disappearance until March 2021
ByRyan MerrifieldReporter
02:59, 1 OCT 2020
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-gets-extra-22772283
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Stuck in the groove - change the record!
This is not Dodge City, you can't put a price on a head .
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Okay, so I've now watched Episode 3 of the Discovery+ Madeleine McCann documentary finale.
I'm still confused about the finer detail, probably because I'm not remotely interested in the life and time of Christian 'he who can't be name' Brueckner, other than the alleged connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. That aspect is really a non starter, the German authority insists they have enough evidence to prosecute but he can't say what, or why not - apparently!
That aside, I'm still wondering if Christian Brueckner even exists, at least in terms of a convicted criminal now named as prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, based on the premise that Madeleine was abducted - as claimed by the true prime suspects - Gerry and Kate McCann, who lost the chance to prove their innocence .... so say the Portuguese authorities within the archival process of their investigation. The German prosecutor might have a trump card up his sleeve and be able to evidence the abduction claim but as it stands, he can't or won't say. Even though he can appear on camera with hints about this that and not a lot of the other.
Shoving Ms Felgueiras aside for the moment, frankly that's all she's fit for, the primary information source throughout the entire production is the master criminal in his own right - Manfred Seyferth. Personally I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog - and I haven't even got one!
According to the documentary,Brueckner was eventually prosecuted, having dodged the law for quite some time, for the rape of the 70+ year old American woman in Praia da Luz some years ago. The only evidence to lead to the conviction at the time was a hair found on the bed of the American woman that matched the DNA of Brueckner, the evidence produced some years later. This was later bolstered by the evidence of witness Manfred Seyferth who said he and an accomplice found a device in a property previously occupied by Brueckner - scenario aforementioned. This specific evidence disappeared and was never seen by the police - or anyone apart from Seyferth and his accomplice who refused to be named or give evidence.
More chance of getting through the gates of hell than a court of law.
Since who knows when, in order to nail the the suspect for a crime he clearly didn't commit - if he even exists, the German authorities have apparently re-opened a number of cold cases concerning the sexual assault, disappearance and/or murder of children across Europe of varying ages over a number of years. Brueckner's current defence lawyer clearly makes a lot of money defending criminals if his featured home is anything to go by. The German, Hans Christian Wolters is less than convincing as is the criminal profiler with the bulging eyes.
Rule of thumb admittedly, most criminals follow a particular slant .... a burglar burgles, a bank robber robs banks, a safe cracker cracks safes, a drug dealer deals drugs, a pickpocket picks pockets, a child sex abuser has a penchant for a particular age group as does a serial rapist, a small time criminal sticks to small time crime. Yet here we are expected to believe that Brueckner is an all rounder, man woman child or beast, big crime small crime - anything goes.
The matter of the reward offered for information relating to Madeleine McCann's disappearance was rightly raised here on the forum recently. Funnily enough Manfred Seyferth has something to say on the subject .... to follow.
The documentary is boring and over dramatised and doesn't lead anywhere constructive. The witnesses are very debatable, including the mother of the child at the other end of the playground flashing incident - bearing false witness springs to mind. Nothing changes!
I'm still confused about the finer detail, probably because I'm not remotely interested in the life and time of Christian 'he who can't be name' Brueckner, other than the alleged connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. That aspect is really a non starter, the German authority insists they have enough evidence to prosecute but he can't say what, or why not - apparently!
That aside, I'm still wondering if Christian Brueckner even exists, at least in terms of a convicted criminal now named as prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, based on the premise that Madeleine was abducted - as claimed by the true prime suspects - Gerry and Kate McCann, who lost the chance to prove their innocence .... so say the Portuguese authorities within the archival process of their investigation. The German prosecutor might have a trump card up his sleeve and be able to evidence the abduction claim but as it stands, he can't or won't say. Even though he can appear on camera with hints about this that and not a lot of the other.
Shoving Ms Felgueiras aside for the moment, frankly that's all she's fit for, the primary information source throughout the entire production is the master criminal in his own right - Manfred Seyferth. Personally I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog - and I haven't even got one!
According to the documentary,Brueckner was eventually prosecuted, having dodged the law for quite some time, for the rape of the 70+ year old American woman in Praia da Luz some years ago. The only evidence to lead to the conviction at the time was a hair found on the bed of the American woman that matched the DNA of Brueckner, the evidence produced some years later. This was later bolstered by the evidence of witness Manfred Seyferth who said he and an accomplice found a device in a property previously occupied by Brueckner - scenario aforementioned. This specific evidence disappeared and was never seen by the police - or anyone apart from Seyferth and his accomplice who refused to be named or give evidence.
More chance of getting through the gates of hell than a court of law.
Since who knows when, in order to nail the the suspect for a crime he clearly didn't commit - if he even exists, the German authorities have apparently re-opened a number of cold cases concerning the sexual assault, disappearance and/or murder of children across Europe of varying ages over a number of years. Brueckner's current defence lawyer clearly makes a lot of money defending criminals if his featured home is anything to go by. The German, Hans Christian Wolters is less than convincing as is the criminal profiler with the bulging eyes.
Rule of thumb admittedly, most criminals follow a particular slant .... a burglar burgles, a bank robber robs banks, a safe cracker cracks safes, a drug dealer deals drugs, a pickpocket picks pockets, a child sex abuser has a penchant for a particular age group as does a serial rapist, a small time criminal sticks to small time crime. Yet here we are expected to believe that Brueckner is an all rounder, man woman child or beast, big crime small crime - anything goes.
The matter of the reward offered for information relating to Madeleine McCann's disappearance was rightly raised here on the forum recently. Funnily enough Manfred Seyferth has something to say on the subject .... to follow.
The documentary is boring and over dramatised and doesn't lead anywhere constructive. The witnesses are very debatable, including the mother of the child at the other end of the playground flashing incident - bearing false witness springs to mind. Nothing changes!
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Verdi wrote:The matter of the reward offered for information relating to Madeleine McCann's disappearance was rightly raised here on the forum recently. Funnily enough Manfred Seyferth has something to say on the subject .... to follow.
Reporter: Did he ever talk to you about the reward in the Madeleine McCann case..
Reporter: The reward..
Reporter: Was there a reward?
Reporter: Do you think he said what he did to the police only so he could have some money..
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A mere month away and it will be the fourteenth anniversary of the disappearance of Madeleine Mccann.
For nine months the German prisoner, Christian Brueckner, has dominated the latest in a long line of McCann related headline hits, possibly a deliberate move on behalf of the intricate support network - a distinct possibility in my view!
Whatever the true reason behind this most recent blitz, that appears to be built on past 'suspects' (Messrs McCann not withstanding) and witnesses, named and anonymous - take your pick, I think I can see where this is leading.
The lastest stories circulated in the tabloids here and abroad, indicated that the German authorities would not be in a position to move forward with their case against (?) Brueckner until spring, the spring of 2021 which nicely fits in with the next Mayday anniversary.
The Brueckner storyline has re-ignited interest across social media, in particular unrestrained verbiage on twitter and facebook, a renewal of past unnecessary unhelpful commentary by the hands of the idle garden fence gossips.
I foresee another troll-fest on the horizon - just in time for the fourteenth anniversary ....
For nine months the German prisoner, Christian Brueckner, has dominated the latest in a long line of McCann related headline hits, possibly a deliberate move on behalf of the intricate support network - a distinct possibility in my view!
Whatever the true reason behind this most recent blitz, that appears to be built on past 'suspects' (Messrs McCann not withstanding) and witnesses, named and anonymous - take your pick, I think I can see where this is leading.
The lastest stories circulated in the tabloids here and abroad, indicated that the German authorities would not be in a position to move forward with their case against (?) Brueckner until spring, the spring of 2021 which nicely fits in with the next Mayday anniversary.
The Brueckner storyline has re-ignited interest across social media, in particular unrestrained verbiage on twitter and facebook, a renewal of past unnecessary unhelpful commentary by the hands of the idle garden fence gossips.
I foresee another troll-fest on the horizon - just in time for the fourteenth anniversary ....
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One again Verdi, thank you for your summary. Most useful!Verdi wrote:Okay, so I've now watched Episode 3 of the Discovery+ Madeleine McCann documentary finale.
I'm still confused about the finer detail, probably because I'm not remotely interested in the life and time of Christian 'he who can't be name' Brueckner, other than the alleged connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. That aspect is really a non starter, the German authority insists they have enough evidence to prosecute but he can't say what, or why not - apparently!
That aside, I'm still wondering if Christian Brueckner even exists, at least in terms of a convicted criminal now named as prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, based on the premise that Madeleine was abducted - as claimed by the true prime suspects - Gerry and Kate McCann, who lost the chance to prove their innocence .... so say the Portuguese authorities within the archival process of their investigation. The German prosecutor might have a trump card up his sleeve and be able to evidence the abduction claim but as it stands, he can't or won't say. Even though he can appear on camera with hints about this that and not a lot of the other.
Shoving Ms Felgueiras aside for the moment, frankly that's all she's fit for, the primary information source throughout the entire production is the master criminal in his own right - Manfred Seyferth. Personally I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog - and I haven't even got one!
According to the documentary,Brueckner was eventually prosecuted, having dodged the law for quite some time, for the rape of the 70+ year old American woman in Praia da Luz some years ago. The only evidence to lead to the conviction at the time was a hair found on the bed of the American woman that matched the DNA of Brueckner, the evidence produced some years later. This was later bolstered by the evidence of witness Manfred Seyferth who said he and an accomplice found a device in a property previously occupied by Brueckner - scenario aforementioned. This specific evidence disappeared and was never seen by the police - or anyone apart from Seyferth and his accomplice who refused to be named or give evidence.
More chance of getting through the gates of hell than a court of law.
Since who knows when, in order to nail the the suspect for a crime he clearly didn't commit - if he even exists, the German authorities have apparently re-opened a number of cold cases concerning the sexual assault, disappearance and/or murder of children across Europe of varying ages over a number of years. Brueckner's current defence lawyer clearly makes a lot of money defending criminals if his featured home is anything to go by. The German, Hans Christian Wolters is less than convincing as is the criminal profiler with the bulging eyes.
Rule of thumb admittedly, most criminals follow a particular slant .... a burglar burgles, a bank robber robs banks, a safe cracker cracks safes, a drug dealer deals drugs, a pickpocket picks pockets, a child sex abuser has a penchant for a particular age group as does a serial rapist, a small time criminal sticks to small time crime. Yet here we are expected to believe that Brueckner is an all rounder, man woman child or beast, big crime small crime - anything goes.
The matter of the reward offered for information relating to Madeleine McCann's disappearance was rightly raised here on the forum recently. Funnily enough Manfred Seyferth has something to say on the subject .... to follow.
The documentary is boring and over dramatised and doesn't lead anywhere constructive. The witnesses are very debatable, including the mother of the child at the other end of the playground flashing incident - bearing false witness springs to mind. Nothing changes!
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If there was any evidence that Christian Brueckner was involved in this case, why would extra funds be required to investigate him?
1. They know where he is
2. They question him
3. They have the evidence, they should follow it up.
4. They charge him
Why would it be ongoing and so expensive?
1. They know where he is
2. They question him
3. They have the evidence, they should follow it up.
4. They charge him
Why would it be ongoing and so expensive?
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Now come along Missus Sharon, chop chop, don't be fick. You know that Tracey Nokandohla is the fount of all knowledge and wisdom - you know she's reporter in chief for all things McCann'ite.
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sharonl wrote:If there was any evidence that Christian Brueckner was involved in this case, why would extra funds be required to investigate him?
They had to pay the Counter surveillance company to sweep the Athens Hotel for Bugs, then they apparently paid Helge B for a Statement, padded out with Blacked out text, the content of which even the Defence lawyer Herr Fulscher cannot find out. He is still being denied access to the Prosecutors Files on his Customers case.
Manfred S said that suddenly Helge B had loads of Money, and was ‘Hoppa - Hoppa’ drunk.
Who else is being paid to incriminate Christian B as much as possible?
I always thought you got the reward AFTER the Criminal was convicted on your information...?
Not before.
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ShiningInLuz wrote:One again Verdi, thank you for your summary. Most useful!
It is only a brief summary but it gives an idea of the documentary's stand point.
Slow, over dramatized and too much emphasis on unreliable witnesses and Sandra Felgueiras.
On the surface, without taking too much time checking the detail, the documentary appears to be based on the past months of tabloid press reports, the movements of Christian Brueckner across Europe and alleged crimes committed on route.
There is little or no evidence from any authoritative source to verify the claims, it's all very airy-fairy, a non-story I would suggest planted like so many in the past, to lead the focus away from the true suspects in the case.
I might take a few minutes to concentrate on the mother of the child in the 'flashing' playgound incident, through my eyes the woman is overplaying though admittedly the scene must have been filmed for the documentary, rather than taken from archives.
There always seems to be someone waiting in the wings to make a few quid - bearing false witness!
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Villa owner of Madeleine McCann murder suspect urges police to search
June 7, 2020
The owner of a secluded villa where the murder suspect Madeleine McCann lived after she disappeared urged police to search her large lot [ ^^^ ].
Lia Silva said she would cooperate fully with British and Portuguese police if they suspected the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.
Christian Brueckner stayed in the house in 2007 when it was used as a refuge for troubled children and rented by a German woman called Nicole and her partner Roman.
The tall blue eyed German with piercing blue eyes was seen several times in the area and on the property in the weeks following the disappearance of the three-year-old.
Lia Silva, owner of an isolated villa where Madeleine McCann’s murder suspect Christian Brueckner urged the police to search his land.
Murder suspect often seen by local residents on property after Madeleine McCann’s death
The owner of the property said she would cooperate fully with the British and Portuguese police if they suspected that the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.
Its current owner has confirmed that he saw Brueckner at the villa on several occasions.
In an exclusive interview with MailOnline, Silva urged police to search her 5,000 m² property if they thought the missing child could be buried in the park.
She said, “I just want the parents to find a solution. If the police want to dig my land, they are welcome.
“I expect them to come here now that they know Brueckner was there. Personally, I don’t think she can be here.
“The ground is very hard and you would need a shovel or something. But if the police want it, they can. I will do everything I can to make me feel so sorry for them and they must be in hell without knowing it.
McCann’s suspect, Christian Brueckner, carried a handgun while living in the village of Foral, locals said.
They described the German as “intimidating” and led many residents to avoid dining in the only restaurant in the village where he often strutted.
The pedophile worked as a part-time waiter at the O Foral restaurant after having moved to the village and having lived in his motorhome.
Lia Silva said, “I was told that when he was here he had a pistol that he would always be in a holster around his waist.
Brueckner, 43, the new key suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCan, carried a handgun while living in the remote village, residents say.
In 2007, Brueckner stayed at home when it was used as a shelter for children in difficulty.
Silva asked police to search her 5,000 m² property if she thought the missing child could be buried in the park
The isolated property in Portugal has a dirt road leading to it and its garden is overgrown
“A lot of people were very put off by it and found it very intimidating,
“People were talking about it because it was unusual. In 2007, you did not need a license to carry a firearm.
Silva said she had never seen Brueckner with the gun and thinks it was to enhance his image.
“He likes to intimidate people from what I’ve been told. Everyone was talking about him with the gun because it was so unusual.
Silva, who is Portuguese but speaks strangely with an Australian accent, said that she had never met Brueckner when he stayed at her house.
She discovered that the German woman who rented the villa was good friends with Brueckner and stayed there often.
She said, “I didn’t know his name at the time, but he was a very good friend of Nicole. He was an ugly man who always wore a black leather jacket.
“He came here to help him. One of the girls who had been sent from Germany to stay with her fled to stay with Romanians a few kilometers away.
The owner of the secluded villa said that the soil around the property was very hard and would require a backhoe
The property is surrounded by fields and the nearest neighbor is more than 200 meters away
The current owner of the villa has confirmed that she will see the murder suspect at the residence several times
The secluded villa is surrounded by a fence that has three layers of barbed wire and an overgrown plantation
“He found her and brought her back, but she was pregnant. I know he often stayed at the villa because he was good friends with Nicole and her boyfriend Roman.
“I was in litigation with Nicole over the non-payment of rent, so I did not go to the property, but my friends told me that he was there.
“He drove a VW camper van. I was with my parents during the rental of the villa. Nicole left me thousands of dollars.
Silva now shares the property called Villa Bianca with eight rescue dogs that run and jump repeatedly at the wrought-iron gates when people pass.
At the nearby O Foral restaurant, staff said they did not see any police officers involved in the McCann investigation in the area.
The former owner of the restaurant spoke German and employed Brueckner part-time as a waiter.
He has since moved away from the area, but a neighbor said, “Those who spoke German would stay together.
Silva’s house is far from a dirt road and in a position as secluded as the houses Brueckner lived near the Ptaiz da Luz station.
The single storey property is in a secluded position with its entrance to a dirt road and a fence surmounted by three layers of barbed wire.
The garden is overrun by a car without front wheels and resting on bricks. It is surrounded by fields with the nearest neighbor more than 200 meters away.
Brueckner parked his VW in the parking lot of the O Foral restaurant where he worked part-time as a waiter.
The restaurant changed hands six years ago, with the current owners of husband and wife unaware of Brueckner’s existence.
The residents of Foral, about 40 miles from the resort of Praia da Luz where McCann disappeared, were shocked to find their small village linked to the pedophile.
One resident, who asked not to be named, said: “It is horrible to think that he lived here. All of this happened before I came here, but everyone who has lived in Portugal knows McCann’s story.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html
June 7, 2020
The owner of a secluded villa where the murder suspect Madeleine McCann lived after she disappeared urged police to search her large lot [ ^^^ ].
Lia Silva said she would cooperate fully with British and Portuguese police if they suspected the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.
Christian Brueckner stayed in the house in 2007 when it was used as a refuge for troubled children and rented by a German woman called Nicole and her partner Roman.
The tall blue eyed German with piercing blue eyes was seen several times in the area and on the property in the weeks following the disappearance of the three-year-old.
Lia Silva, owner of an isolated villa where Madeleine McCann’s murder suspect Christian Brueckner urged the police to search his land.
Murder suspect often seen by local residents on property after Madeleine McCann’s death
The owner of the property said she would cooperate fully with the British and Portuguese police if they suspected that the toddler’s body could be buried somewhere on his property.
Its current owner has confirmed that he saw Brueckner at the villa on several occasions.
In an exclusive interview with MailOnline, Silva urged police to search her 5,000 m² property if they thought the missing child could be buried in the park.
She said, “I just want the parents to find a solution. If the police want to dig my land, they are welcome.
“I expect them to come here now that they know Brueckner was there. Personally, I don’t think she can be here.
“The ground is very hard and you would need a shovel or something. But if the police want it, they can. I will do everything I can to make me feel so sorry for them and they must be in hell without knowing it.
McCann’s suspect, Christian Brueckner, carried a handgun while living in the village of Foral, locals said.
They described the German as “intimidating” and led many residents to avoid dining in the only restaurant in the village where he often strutted.
The pedophile worked as a part-time waiter at the O Foral restaurant after having moved to the village and having lived in his motorhome.
Lia Silva said, “I was told that when he was here he had a pistol that he would always be in a holster around his waist.
Brueckner, 43, the new key suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCan, carried a handgun while living in the remote village, residents say.
In 2007, Brueckner stayed at home when it was used as a shelter for children in difficulty.
Silva asked police to search her 5,000 m² property if she thought the missing child could be buried in the park
The isolated property in Portugal has a dirt road leading to it and its garden is overgrown
“A lot of people were very put off by it and found it very intimidating,
“People were talking about it because it was unusual. In 2007, you did not need a license to carry a firearm.
Silva said she had never seen Brueckner with the gun and thinks it was to enhance his image.
“He likes to intimidate people from what I’ve been told. Everyone was talking about him with the gun because it was so unusual.
Silva, who is Portuguese but speaks strangely with an Australian accent, said that she had never met Brueckner when he stayed at her house.
She discovered that the German woman who rented the villa was good friends with Brueckner and stayed there often.
She said, “I didn’t know his name at the time, but he was a very good friend of Nicole. He was an ugly man who always wore a black leather jacket.
“He came here to help him. One of the girls who had been sent from Germany to stay with her fled to stay with Romanians a few kilometers away.
The owner of the secluded villa said that the soil around the property was very hard and would require a backhoe
The property is surrounded by fields and the nearest neighbor is more than 200 meters away
The current owner of the villa has confirmed that she will see the murder suspect at the residence several times
The secluded villa is surrounded by a fence that has three layers of barbed wire and an overgrown plantation
“He found her and brought her back, but she was pregnant. I know he often stayed at the villa because he was good friends with Nicole and her boyfriend Roman.
“I was in litigation with Nicole over the non-payment of rent, so I did not go to the property, but my friends told me that he was there.
“He drove a VW camper van. I was with my parents during the rental of the villa. Nicole left me thousands of dollars.
Silva now shares the property called Villa Bianca with eight rescue dogs that run and jump repeatedly at the wrought-iron gates when people pass.
At the nearby O Foral restaurant, staff said they did not see any police officers involved in the McCann investigation in the area.
The former owner of the restaurant spoke German and employed Brueckner part-time as a waiter.
He has since moved away from the area, but a neighbor said, “Those who spoke German would stay together.
Silva’s house is far from a dirt road and in a position as secluded as the houses Brueckner lived near the Ptaiz da Luz station.
The single storey property is in a secluded position with its entrance to a dirt road and a fence surmounted by three layers of barbed wire.
The garden is overrun by a car without front wheels and resting on bricks. It is surrounded by fields with the nearest neighbor more than 200 meters away.
Brueckner parked his VW in the parking lot of the O Foral restaurant where he worked part-time as a waiter.
The restaurant changed hands six years ago, with the current owners of husband and wife unaware of Brueckner’s existence.
The residents of Foral, about 40 miles from the resort of Praia da Luz where McCann disappeared, were shocked to find their small village linked to the pedophile.
One resident, who asked not to be named, said: “It is horrible to think that he lived here. All of this happened before I came here, but everyone who has lived in Portugal knows McCann’s story.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html
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This has got nothing to do with Brueckner, at least not on the surface but I'm sticking it here for want of anywhere else more appropriate - like garbage!
It's the Australian 7NEWS documentary, first aired in 2017.
I wonder why they've decided to give it another airing at this point in time. I know Sonia Poulton has connections with the journalist Mark Saunokonko from another Australian news network, maybe it's connected in some way with her latest video?
Or maybe it's just another lead up to an anniversary.
What happened to Madeleine McCann? Her parents speak and the bungled investigation | 7NEWS Spotlight
8 April 2021
38:23 minutes
Madeleine McCann was just three years old when she vanished from her bed while on holiday in Portugal. There have been multiple sightings and her parents accused of foul play, but there's still no definitive answer as to what happened. Rahni Sadler sits down with Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, investigator Gonçalo Amaral, who was removed from the case, and other key players in the case. This story originally aired in 2017.
ETA: The most obvious thread is of course Video of the Day - why didn't I think of that? Still, it can stay put for the moment.
It's the Australian 7NEWS documentary, first aired in 2017.
I wonder why they've decided to give it another airing at this point in time. I know Sonia Poulton has connections with the journalist Mark Saunokonko from another Australian news network, maybe it's connected in some way with her latest video?
Or maybe it's just another lead up to an anniversary.
What happened to Madeleine McCann? Her parents speak and the bungled investigation | 7NEWS Spotlight
8 April 2021
38:23 minutes
Madeleine McCann was just three years old when she vanished from her bed while on holiday in Portugal. There have been multiple sightings and her parents accused of foul play, but there's still no definitive answer as to what happened. Rahni Sadler sits down with Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, investigator Gonçalo Amaral, who was removed from the case, and other key players in the case. This story originally aired in 2017.
ETA: The most obvious thread is of course Video of the Day - why didn't I think of that? Still, it can stay put for the moment.
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Investigators had previously left it open whether there will be charges against the murder suspect in 2021. Prosecutor Wolters said that at least individual investigations could possibly be completed this year. "I am unable to judge whether charges will be brought and then publicly heard," admitted Wolters.
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Still staying put for the moment!
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