Re: The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

by Liz Eagles 08.06.20 15:57

A few years ago Mark Williams-Thomas made a documentary with Natasha Kaplinski about British paedophile in the Algarve.

by Guest 08.06.20 16:11

The news blitz about the German suspect is on the wane - thank goodness.

Coronavirus and riots are back dominating the front pages.

splat

by Eastree27 08.06.20 16:59

sparkyhorrox wrote:
Violet1 wrote:Hi, Just seen in the Daily Mail a picture of a tan house in Foral (used by the latest suspect) and it reminded me of the balcony picture of Madeleine with blue eye shadow, the one on the forum in the left hand corner! Is there any connection? The colour of the building is similar.
Also randomly the e fit of the Victoria Beckham character reminds me of Ghislaine Maxwell!

Yes me too!! but then I realised how would they have got hold of this photo.. :)

Perhaps like Murat someone involved is going to be made a patsy.

by Jonal 08.06.20 19:55

Verdi wrote:The news blitz about the German suspect is on the wane - thank goodness.

Yes, indeed. The air is nearly out of this (Gamble-inflated?) clown balloon. The BBC have finally dropped it - perhaps to return with some kind of 'update' in July - and it's left for Sky to keep peddling the Story. This morning they had shameless Martin Brunt tramping sinister woods in Germany and next there is Anthony Summers looming into his laptop with tales of Tapas waiters. Will history look kindly on them?

I just wanted to say thanks, Jill, for the link [[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]] to the True Crime podcast. Isabelle McFadden is passionate, and it's a little scattered because of that but she always makes a point and it's worth a listen. The questions are the kind MSM do not ask, much less answer:

02:30 [re forensics] How do these vehicles differ from the McCanns'?
05:00 What were the difference between UK and German and Portuguese announcements? [IM stresses: "Portugal has not made an appeal"]
17:40 [quotes Pat Brown]: "the evidence that does exist points away from a burglar or p*file" ...?
23:25 Van [a year ago] tested and none of Madeleine's DNA found?
25:00 Gerry McCann brought up p*files very, very early ...?
27:55 Could a trial assist in bringing the McCanns' involvement more to light / What country would a trial take place in?
30:00 Did the Netflix movie help the McCanns?
35:50 The timing of this announcement?
41:10 Why would Gerry and Kate keep up the facade?
44:15 Can you talk about 'being Carter-Rucked'?
50:05 Body in hire car?
57:20 Will Tapas friends break? [IM: "The Tapas children. As they grow up, they will start to ask questions."]
1:01:50 How it could be done - believable? [IM: "IN MY OPINION it is more believable that the parents did it than this guy did it ... forensically, you cannot tie an abduction to this."]

by Liz Eagles 08.06.20 20:01

Why on earth would any police force behave in this way?

by Eastree27 08.06.20 20:06

Sky News - Madeleine McCann: German prosecutor has 'evidence' British girl is dead.

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A German prosecutor has said he has evidence Madeleine McCann is dead as he appealed to British tourists to help identify the suspect's former homes.
Hans Christian Wolter said police need more information about where the new suspect, named only as Christian B, has lived so police can search for Madeleine's body.

He admitted he does not have enough "hard evidence" for the suspect to go on trial.
Mr Wolters believes there are other British victims of sex attacks and has urged them to contact police.
He told Sky News in his first interview since revealing he was investigating the new suspect: "After all the information we got, the girl is dead. We have no information that she is alive.

"All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead.

"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

Mr Wolters continued: "The hard evidence we don't have, we don't have the crucial evidence of Madeline McCann's body.
"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.
"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.
"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."
Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May, 2007.
She had been left sleeping with her young twin siblings while their parents dined with friends nearby.

Speaking at his office in Braunschweig Mr Wolters said his investigation now covered the entire time the suspect lived in the Algarve, from 1995 to 2007.
He said: "We need help from the people, from British tourists that might have been between 1995 and 2007 in Praia da Luz. Only with these calls we can solve the case of Madeleine McCann."
He also believes that over those years there may have been other victims of sex attacks who had not reported them to police.
He said: "We think our suspect has done more crimes possibly against British, Irish or American people. All these people are asked to call us so we can solve these cases."

Like Scotland Yard, the prosecutor said he and the German police he directs had also had hundreds of calls offering information on the suspect and two vehicles he is thought to have used.
He added: "We are going through them right now and we hope that there are some of them which can help us to make a big step to solve this case.
"Basically, we need every information in that time period, where did he live, where did he work, to which places he had a special relationship, who were his friends and the people he knew.
"Who can tell us what the suspect's life was like, where has he been with his cars, who has been in his houses and can tell us what they look like from the inside. And we hope that maybe we find victims that maybe also got in these houses, victims of sexual crimes."

The suspect is currently in a German jail for drugs offences, but this week completed two thirds of his sentence and is eligible for early release if a judge agrees to free him.
He is also challenging a conviction last December for the rape of an elderly American woman in Portugal in 2005.
In theory, he could be freed on either count, though legal experts in Germany say it is unlikely while he remains the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann mystery.

by Eastree27 08.06.20 20:07

Why am I thinking a body is going to appear?

by **PeterMac** 08.06.20 21:43

Eastree27 wrote:Why am I thinking a body is going to appear?

I can't imagine.
The expression on Gerry's face when he said on camera in a live interview still available to view
"Find the body and prove that we killed her" seems to me to tell a story.

Not "If the worst comes to it, and we do find her body, then at least we will have some evidence of who took her, and what happened . . ."

But he didn't say that. Did he.

by Eastree27 08.06.20 22:12

PeterMac wrote:
Eastree27 wrote:Why am I thinking a body is going to appear?
I can't imagine.
The expression on Gerry's face when he said on camera in a live interview still available to view
"Find the body and prove that we killed her" seems to me to tell a story.

Not "If the worst comes to it, and we do find her body, then at least we will have some evidence of who took her, and what happened . . ."

But he didn't say that. Did he.

Well after 13 years nothing to implicate Gerry and Kate would survive anyway

by **Mainline** 08.06.20 22:32

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Regarding the German police's comments.

With your expertise, what kind of evidence assuming you were in their employ would possibly validate the statement "All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead."?

by Eastree27 08.06.20 22:59

Mainline wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Regarding the German police's comments.

With your expertise, what kind of evidence assuming you were in their employ would possibly validate the statement "All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead."?

Not aimed at me but I would guess a photo or video or someone testifying in detail that he confessed to it.

by **Mainline** 08.06.20 23:03

Eastree27 wrote:
Mainline wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Regarding the German police's comments.

With your expertise, what kind of evidence assuming you were in their employ would possibly validate the statement "All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead."?
Not aimed at me but I would guess a photo or video or someone testifying in detail that he confessed to it.

We can speculate - I am looking to hear opinion from Peter as he is an expert in this field.

by TimN 08.06.20 23:17

Stffl wrote:
TimN wrote:im sjure people here can piece together all known facts to come up with what happened here.
I'm new but have been paying attention.
The McCanns notified the staff of their habits, one of the staff, or acquaintenace of one of the staff members worked with CB to arrive at exactly the time when no one would notice. this was coordinated on the phone.
All of the debate about who saw what and when is bogus because they didnt have a rigid, regimented checking system. It was loose, or not there at all.
All of that could be a great big mess because they all underestimated the detail needed to defend the premise.
Bear with me..im just trying to follow the facts, and try to entertain how it couldve gone down..can we weave in that M may have bee sedated..ok, not my choice of method but as a parent, everyone knows about phenergan. Its not child abuse thats for sure. Perhaps they were immediately worried about the circumstance and the look of kids found with sedatives, and being left alone for extended periods. All plausible i think. The dogs just arent reliable enough to be considered so have to proceed without answering about the dog's hits.
IF the hits were genuine, then there are so many theories that can fit the facts.
It seems that wherever CB is, someone gets raped or goes missing..its a difficult circumstantial pattern to ignore.
Based on the language he used in online forums..he really did have an evil thing for kids..and he had plenty of time to watch. He may even have watched many families looking for ones that had a pattern.
Suppose that CB knew someone at the bar, who essentially guided him to the unlocked room.
He was seen in the villas on the day separate to the incident.
You'd have to think that the accomplice is complicit (for abduction and not robbery) in this case, which is probably why the person hasnt come forward. Its possible that there are 2 pedos..and maybe one of those other suspects is one of them..it seems most had been ruled out, but maybe a revisit in the new light would be worth looking at ?
perhaps one of them exhibited movements that couldve facilitated CB. Were any of them known to each other..yes..etc.
Of course thats just the pedos we know about. The place could be full of them..like Santa Clara in LostBoys..i digress..
What happened next could be short, or, if the may 28th sighting is credible, drawn out for some ************* .that's 21 days with a sicko pedo captor if its true.
The guy basically walked in and walked out. Everything else is red herring.
So what happened next, i think, is the question..and does any of this strengthen the cases for the other missing children?

I would suggest to stop reading "news"papers and start reading the PJ files inste

why would i use the PJ files as hard evidence?..theyve been wrong on so many levels. You actually think Amaral was hard done by dont you?. A huge amount of focus from the PJ files is on the McCanns. they appear to think theyve caught them in a lie.
As soon as you write off the 'checking system' as something that just didnt happen howw they said it did, then everything else fits.
If you do some research yourself, then you'd know that dogs are not better than chance.its been shown over and over. What they do do however is respond to inadvertent human direction.
Being rude and dismissive just isnt cool mate...even if you've been here for a long time.

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by Rogue-a-Tory 09.06.20 0:34

TimN wrote:
Stffl wrote:
TimN wrote:im sjure people here can piece together all known facts to come up with what happened here.
I'm new but have been paying attention.
The McCanns notified the staff of their habits, one of the staff, or acquaintenace of one of the staff members worked with CB to arrive at exactly the time when no one would notice. this was coordinated on the phone.
All of the debate about who saw what and when is bogus because they didnt have a rigid, regimented checking system. It was loose, or not there at all.
All of that could be a great big mess because they all underestimated the detail needed to defend the premise.
Bear with me..im just trying to follow the facts, and try to entertain how it couldve gone down..can we weave in that M may have bee sedated..ok, not my choice of method but as a parent, everyone knows about phenergan. Its not child abuse thats for sure. Perhaps they were immediately worried about the circumstance and the look of kids found with sedatives, and being left alone for extended periods. All plausible i think. The dogs just arent reliable enough to be considered so have to proceed without answering about the dog's hits.
IF the hits were genuine, then there are so many theories that can fit the facts.
It seems that wherever CB is, someone gets raped or goes missing..its a difficult circumstantial pattern to ignore.
Based on the language he used in online forums..he really did have an evil thing for kids..and he had plenty of time to watch. He may even have watched many families looking for ones that had a pattern.
Suppose that CB knew someone at the bar, who essentially guided him to the unlocked room.
He was seen in the villas on the day separate to the incident.
You'd have to think that the accomplice is complicit (for abduction and not robbery) in this case, which is probably why the person hasnt come forward. Its possible that there are 2 pedos..and maybe one of those other suspects is one of them..it seems most had been ruled out, but maybe a revisit in the new light would be worth looking at ?
perhaps one of them exhibited movements that couldve facilitated CB. Were any of them known to each other..yes..etc.
Of course thats just the pedos we know about. The place could be full of them..like Santa Clara in LostBoys..i digress..
What happened next could be short, or, if the may 28th sighting is credible, drawn out for some probably ********** .that's 21 days with a sicko pedo captor if its true.
The guy basically walked in and walked out. Everything else is red herring.
So what happened next, i think, is the question..and does any of this strengthen the cases for the other missing children?

I would suggest to stop reading "news"papers and start reading the PJ files inste
why would i use the PJ files as hard evidence?..theyve been wrong on so many levels. You actually think Amaral was hard done by dont you?. A huge amount of focus from the PJ files is on the McCanns. they appear to think theyve caught them in a lie.
As soon as you write off the 'checking system' as something that just didnt happen howw they said it did, then everything else fits.
If you do some research yourself, then you'd know that dogs are not better than chance.its been shown over and over. What they do do however is respond to inadvertent human direction.
Being rude and dismissive just isnt cool mate...even if you've been here for a long time.

The dogs are no better than chance. Where's your evidence for that sweeping statement?

by Guest 09.06.20 0:50

No abduction = No abductor.

Madeleine McCann was not abducted therefore there is no suspect old or new - no abductor.

Return to the beginning and stick with the evidence.

I love the way the spin (read Clarence Mitchell and associates) always target a location outside the UK. So much easily lost in translation ....

It's another hoax. This case will never ever be anything but a hoax.

Does Mitchell have contacts in the German tabloid 'Bilge' I wonder?

There's one hell of a lot of skeletons hidden in the hubbard around here.

by Guest 09.06.20 1:50

German prosecutor says there is 'some evidence' Madeleine McCann was killed by new suspect

The prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case was investigated four years ago and ruled out, it has also been claimed

By Jamie Johnson in Foral ; Izzy Lyons in Braunschweig and Dominic Penna 8 June 2020 • 10:44pm

A German prosecutor has said there is “some evidence” that Madeleine McCann was killed by the new suspect but not enough to bring him to trial.

Hans Christian Wolters said police do not have enough “hard evidence” that Christian Brückner abducted Madeleine. He appealed for anyone with information about properties where the suspect previously lived to contact police to allow them to search for Madeleine’s body.

He told Sky News: "All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead.

"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

Mr Wolters continued: "We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."

On Monday night it was reported that British and German police are looking to speak to a former girlfriend of Brückner, who they think may hold important information about the Madeleine case.

The German woman, who is believed to have dated the 43-year-old suspect for several years, is reportedly being sought by detectives over what she may know about Brückner’s past.

It was also claimed on Monday night that the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was investigated over the case four years ago and ruled out by Portuguese police.

A senior Portuguese police chief, speaking to a Spanish newspaper on condition of anonymity said of Christian Brückner: “We never found strong enough reasons to charge him.”

The revelation coincided with news from Germany that authorities were distancing Brückner from two cold cases he had been linked to, including the disappearance of a six-year-old boy from a beach in Portugal.

The Telegraph can also reveal that forensic evidence from Portugal 2007 may have been destroyed or contaminated because the van owned by the German paedophile was used as a party bus for four years after he last used it and before it was seized by police.

Detectives in France, Spain, Germany, Portugal and Belgium are sifting through cold case files involving youngsters, but there have been no major breakthroughs that link them to Brückner.

Speaking to Spanish daily newspaper ABC, the unnamed Portuguese official, who claims to still be a serving officer, but is not working on the case said: “People talk about surprises in the Madeleine McCann case with the capture of this German man, but for me it's no surprise.

“This individual was already investigated around four years ago. There's no evidence Christian Brückner is involved in her disappearance.”

German officials are still looking for a forensic breakthrough that could implicate Brückner in the disappearance, but hopes of finding anything in his old white and yellow VW T3 Westfalia campervan appeared to be dashed last night as the Telegraph discovered that more than 50 people have been in the vehicle since he last used it.

The son of a scrapyard owner, who bought the van off Brückner, used it to ferry his friends and family around the Algarve, hosting parties, drinking, smoking and sleeping in the “top of the range” vehicle.

Officers only seized it in 2019, some 12 years after it was seen around Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing.

Dr James Barker, lecturer in forensic science at Kingston University said the sheer number of people who had been in the van “makes things a lot more complicated”.

“It makes things harder, and the longer time goes by the harder things get. If the van was in hot or wet conditions, DNA can degrade and wash away.”

Linda Brownlow, principal forensic science lecturer at the University of Greenwich added: "DNA from those 50 people could itself be left behind over the top of Madeleine’s - thereby confusing her original profile.”

In Germany, the father of Rene Hasee, a six-year-old boy, who went missing in 1996 while on holiday in the Algarve, said he had been told by the Federal Criminal Police Office in Germany that they were reopening the investigation. At that time, Brückner, just 20, was living in the region.

But on Monday (June 8), officials said they "see no new evidence or connections" between Rene's disappearance and Madeleine’s.

Police said they were "sorry" they could not find a connection and understood that Rene's father "clings to every straw" about his son's death.

In Hanover, a senior prosecutor from the public prosecutor's office was also forced to publicly state that there is “no connection” with Brückner and the murder of a prostitute in the city in 2010.

According to the Daily Mail, Brückner was a suspect into the death of Monika Pawlak, who was found dismembered ten years ago.

Brückner was required to take a DNA test in relation to the murder, the German newspaper Bild reported, but the sample came back negative.

Hanover’s senior prosecutor Thomas Klinge said: “This has been thoroughly investigated. No connection could be established."

But the allegations of wrongdoing against the career criminal with 17 convictions continue to pile up.

A former friend of Brückner, Lenta Johlitz claimed that he had a “very small” 17-year-old girlfriend when he was 37-year-old who she alleges he physically assaulted while he was living in Braunschweig

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No there isn't Mr German Prosecutor - whoever you may be.

Shame on you Mr Telegraph! Who is your paymaster general?

This is getting more bizarre as a week progresses.

No abduction = No abductor

Madeleine McCann was not abducted. If you believe otherwise then prove it - or stfu

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by Guest 09.06.20 2:00

Wolters continued: "We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

Don't we all sir. The evidence however is here - apartment 5a Ocean Club and the villa later rented by the McCanns..

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Or did you, like Operation Grange, blink at that point?

Let us know in due course ....

by Milo 09.06.20 3:01

The most serious question of all is what is happening in the world that has enabled this farce? Why are they (insert who "they" are) taking advantage of wide-spread ignorance in this post-scientific era? It is ironic that one of the catch-cries of the 21st century has been "evidence-based" this or that. Yet the lack of evidence of an abduction is ignored. What political forces are particularly strong at this point of time in the McCann saga? Amaral said that we would know the answer to related questions when the MI5 files were opened. When will that be?

by **Jill Havern** 09.06.20 6:04

TimN wrote:
The dogs just arent reliable enough to be considered so have to proceed without answering about the dog's hits.

How do you account for both dogs not being reliable enough to hit in exactly the same places? e.g behind the sofa? In the hire car?

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by Milo 09.06.20 6:20

Jill et al,

No point in trying to argue with Tim N.
(a) His comprehensive skills are low. His confidence is high.
(b) His revolting sentence starting with "What happened could be long or short..." and finishing with " ... captor if it is true", with vile writing in between disqualifies him from this forum IMO.
(b)What happened next could be short, or, if the may 28th sighting is credible, drawn out for some *****************.that's 21 days with a sicko pedo captor if its true.

by Milo 09.06.20 6:23

Jill

Terribly sorry but I copied the vile sentence but then pasted it by mistake. I was doing an extract so I could quote the beginning and the end. I feel sick having repeated his revolting words.

by **PeterMac** 09.06.20 6:35

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All the usual stuff from the Germans repeated again for the hard of understanding.
He admitted he does not have enough "hard evidence" for the suspect to go on trial.
He told Sky News: "After all the information we got, the girl is dead. We have no information that she is alive.

"All indications we have got that I can't tell you point in the direction that Madeleine is dead.
"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."
"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.
"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.
Grange says that because there is no evidence that she is dead, she must be alive
But the Germans say that because there is no evidence that she is alive, she must be dead.

But then to Sky News a few minutes go. The German officer was quite clear that no trace of DNA of anything else had been found in the vehicles.
So the score now seems to be
CB's camper-wagon. No blood, or cadaverine
CB's Jaguar, No blood of cadaverine
McCann's hire car/. Human blood and human cadaverine
"Gentlemen of the Jury . . .please retire to consider the evidence and to arrive at your verdict."

by TimN 09.06.20 6:45

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
The dogs are no better than chance. Where's your evidence for that sweeping statement?

ive seen it in a few videos and articles on the use of dogs in the use of scent and how they are motivated.

i did a quick search and found this: its the national free broadcaster in Australia..in this case they were worse than chance..i.e. indicate wrong more times than right.

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there are loads of similar articles - many testimonies of dog handlers - the theme seems to be that they are good if they are used professionally and properly, and that comes down to many things. basically lots of variables and to suggest that a few hits in a room that has had the same people in it for days is , based on what we know about their accuracy, not worth pursuing. And I do note that quite a lot of language here does assume that the dogs were right, or at least were onto something.

Either way, if your entire case relies on dogs, then its pretty thin.

I cant see why CB couldve have just walked in, after being tipped off by his phone friend. He was lurking already, had opportunity, motive, an accomplice potentially...and all the stuff about the room and stories are simply the shit they got into because they thought it was a good idea to try to not have the 'opportunity' part - blamed on them.

And that's it.

Why cant it be that?..its the only theory that doesnt have any flaws or weaknesses. Its totally plausible. Every other story isnt.

That's all I'm saying. As a newbie i have noticed that the judge and jury had decided here...but I dont see how that could be considering everything is speculation and conspiratorial.

by TimN 09.06.20 6:52

Milo wrote:Jill et al,

No point in trying to argue with Tim N.
(a) His comprehensive skills are low. His confidence is high.
(b) His revolting sentence starting with "What happened could be long or short..." and finishing with " ... captor if it is true", with vile writing in between disqualifies him from this forum IMO.
(b)What happened next could be short, or, if the may 28th sighting is credible, drawn out for some *****************.that's 21 days with a sicko pedo captor if its true.

OK here goes. I've merely come on here to write my take on what ive learnt in the same time everyone else has. My observations are that the forum is frequented by people who lean to a wider conspiracy, and most of the others have the McCanns nailed to the cross.
The insults arent necessary, as I havent made any derogatory remarks, and i can assure you that my comprehension is just fine.
Regarding my vile writing - excuse me Mr. Prose, the message was clear and it was written in a style that is completely acceptable in forums- analogous or akin to short conversational hand. We dont want to go off on an English language tangent do we?
You have made this forum an opportunity for a personal attack as if you know me and my character and ironically your evidence is just your speculation. And completely incorrect - what kind of person would point out phrases from a post and present to a group as evidence of lack of comprehension?.. A person who is insecure thats who.
Let the flaming begin. i only came here to see if there was any further info being shared by interested people- not a place where assholes hang out.

by Guest 09.06.20 7:08

Let the flaming begin. i only came here to see if there was any further info being shared by interested people- not a place where assholes hang out.

Interesting set of new members recently.

by Liz Eagles 09.06.20 7:25

I'm leaving the forum because someone called me an asshole.

by **PeterMac** 09.06.20 7:32

The correct English term is Arsehole.

by **Jill Havern** 09.06.20 7:32

TimN wrote:Regarding my vile writing - excuse me Mr. Prose, the message was clear and it was written in a style that is completely acceptable in forums- analogous or akin to short conversational hand. We dont want to go off on an English language tangent do we?

It might be completely acceptable in motorbike or porn forums, but not in a forum where members have spent eleven years reading official police files and researching the death of a three-year-old girl and subsequently campaigning for a proper investigation.

You are clearly in the wrong forum.

byebye

by Armchair-defective 09.06.20 9:08

Tims insistence he has researched all dogs and found them 'unreliable'
( without it seems noticing Martin Grimes still contributes to research on the matter with various scientists and academics)....has reminded me of
Redwoods 'may not have left apartment 5A alive' quote. Could it be relevant to this current 'suspect'? That was in 2013 If I remember correctly, so was this the same time the German Crimewatch appeal flagged up Bruckner?
I would be absolutely amazed if they could fit Bruckner sneaking into 5a in the McCann's timeline, it seems impossible but if they did....does that not mean all the McCann supporters denigrating Martin Grime for years would then want to go along with the dogs being correct about a death in 5a?

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