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Post by Guest 05.06.20 15:59

Take any one reasonably lengthy press report (not difficult to find) and read through from beginning to end. Make quick notes of falsehoods, discrepencies, similarities, coincidences, peculiar stuff so easily overlooked.

Then and only then, will you see what utter nonsense this latest blitz of news actually is.

America is in a state of total chaos, people are dying and being injured - unresolved racists issue passed from generation to generation have resurfaced wit a vengeance.
Coronavirus is said to be killing thousands and threatens to haunt the remainder of our days on earth.
Brexit, a monumentally important future for Britain, has been all but buried by other more pressing issues.
Climate change lurks as the armageddon of the world as we know it, with a little school child dictating the rules.
Bill Gates wants to dominate the world.

Yet here we are again ....
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Eastree27 wrote:I Think we really need to investigate the case of Inga Gehricke- feels like it will be important - disappeared May 2nd 2015.  What are the full details?

Feel free if you think it worthwhile.

I've got better things to do with my life than chasing fake news.

Let us know what you uncover thumbsup. If nothing else, I could do with a good belly laugh.
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Post by sallypelt 05.06.20 16:02

Verdi wrote:Take any one reasonably lengthy press report (not difficult to find) and read through from beginning to end.  Make quick notes of falsehoods, discrepencies, similarities, coincidences, peculiar stuff so easily overlooked.

Then and only then, will you see what utter nonsense this latest blitz of news actually is.

America is in a state of total chaos, people are dying and being injured - unresolved racists issue passed from generation to generation have resurfaced wit a vengeance.  
Coronavirus is said to be killing thousands and threatens to haunt the remainder of our days on earth.  
Brexit, a monumentally important future for Britain, has been all but buried by other more pressing issues.  
Climate change lurks as the armageddon of the world as we know it, with a little school child dictating the rules.
Bill Gates wants to dominate the world.

Yet here we are again ....
C'mon, Verdi. Don't hold back. Tell us how bad the world REALLY is. laugh 

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Go bake some more pasties!

I'm rather partial to pasties. You can send one to me c/o the dark side of the moon.

Excuse the rrrors - my keyboard is infected with 'the virus'
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Verdi wrote:Go bake some more pasties!  

I'm rather partial to pasties.  You can send one to me c/o the dark side of the moon.

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As the recent news released from the German police sinks in around the world, many people have many varying views and opinions about this dramatic announcement and breakthrough. Having now watched all the TV clips and read the newspapers and online articles, the one thing that really stands out the most for me, is not just the Germans viewing this as a murder inquiry and themselves now taking the lead, but that they have gone as far as saying, 'they know how Madeleine was killed'.

Now that, for them to say that, they must have very specific evidence and this could have came from that German, either in an off hand comment in a paedophile chat room, or from an unguarded remark in a bar, which was over heard by someone as they watched the Madeleine tenth anniversary clips on TV.

After that announcement the other day, that they are treating this as a murder inquiry, there can be no doubt in anyone's minds now that Madeleine is dead and has been since May 2007 and therefore will never be found alive, or at all. So there is no point in any agency or authority looking or any more donations or funds going into the, Find Madeleine Fund.

In fact, does this not mean that the Find Madeleine Fund has now no purpose? After all, its sole purpose and reason for existing in the first place was to find Madeleine alive, and clearly now, that is not and is never going to happen.

In fact, did the parents not say that the money (obtained from suing the press ect, donations from very kind members of the public including their holiday friends' payout and from sales of mechanise) should be used to help other missing children?

As Madeleine is never going to be found alive and obviously there is no hope whatsoever in ever finding Madeleine's body either, as a good will gesture to everyone who bought into the belief Madeleine could be found alive, all the monies the parents have accumulated since May 2007, should now be returned 'without question', by individuals and groups ect, requesting a refund from the parents Madeleine Fund.

Is that not the decent and right thing to do? I think it is.

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sallypelt wrote:
Verdi wrote:Go bake some more pasties!  

I'm rather partial to pasties.  You can send one to me c/o the dark side of the moon.

Excuse the rrrors - my keyboard is infected with 'the virus'
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Post by Guest 05.06.20 16:24

The German police are in no position to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. the PJ retain primacy.

That aside, according to press reports, the German police are working with Operation Grange.  According to Operation Grange, they are still not treating the case as homicide, their rationale - no body = no homicide.

It's fake news.
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Post by Eastree27 05.06.20 16:48

I think Inga vanishing on the 2nd may is key - if Maddie vanished due to a much wider network  then she could be similarly linked to it.
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Post by sar 05.06.20 17:22

Jill Havern wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

As the recent news released from the German police sinks in around the world, many people have many varying views and opinions about this dramatic announcement and breakthrough. Having now watched all the TV clips and read the newspapers and online articles, the one thing that really stands out the most for me, is not just the Germans viewing this as a murder inquiry and themselves now taking the lead, but that they have gone as far as saying, 'they know how Madeleine was killed'.

Now that, for them to say that, they must have very specific evidence and this could have came from that German, either in an off hand comment in a paedophile chat room, or from an unguarded remark in a bar, which was over heard by someone as they watched the Madeleine tenth anniversary clips on TV.

After that announcement the other day, that they are treating this as a murder inquiry, there can be no doubt in anyone's minds now that Madeleine is dead and has been since May 2007 and therefore will never be found alive, or at all. So there is no point in any agency or authority looking or any more donations or funds going into the, Find Madeleine Fund.

In fact, does this not mean that the Find Madeleine Fund has now no purpose? After all, its sole purpose and reason for existing in the first place was to find Madeleine alive, and clearly now, that is not and is never going to happen.

In fact, did the parents not say that the money (obtained from suing the press ect, donations from very kind members of the public including their holiday friends' payout and from sales of mechanise) should be used to help other missing children?

As Madeleine is never going to be found alive and obviously there is no hope whatsoever in ever finding Madeleine's body either, as a good will gesture to everyone who bought into the belief Madeleine could be found alive, all the monies the parents have accumulated since May 2007, should now be returned 'without question', by individuals and groups ect, requesting a refund from the parents Madeleine Fund.

Is that not the decent and right thing to do? I think it is.

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In fact, does this not mean that the Find Madeleine Fund has now no purpose? After all, its sole purpose and reason for existing in the first place was to find Madeleine alive, and clearly now, that is not and is never going to happen."
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Post by sallypelt 05.06.20 17:31

Article from a German paper, 26. April 2017 10:58 Uhr

"I thought, "You'll definitely find my child""
Two years ago, her five-year-old daughter Inga disappeared without a trace during a family outing. Victoria and Jens-Uwe Gehricke talk for the first time about this stroke of fate - and their different handling of it .
s was May 2, 2015, when her life was completely out of kilter. Victoria and Jens-Uwe Gehricke wanted to meet friends with their four children at Wilhelmshof, a deaconry facility 30 kilometres west of Stendal. In the early evening, in a window of only ten minutes, her daughter Inga disappeared. Since then, there has been no trace of the girl. In conversation with the stern, it becomes clear how differently Inga's parents deal with the uncertainty. "My feeling tells me she's still alive," says Victoria Gehricke, the mother. "I haven't found anything that could speak for a good outcome, however much I want it," says Jens-Uwe Gehricke, the father. "I still have the hope that it will be found. But the hope that she will come back alive is close to zero for me."

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To this day, searching for Inga is still being sought, to this day there is not the slightest indication of the girl's whereabouts. Investigators have investigated around 2,000 traces, none of which led to Inga. This was also the reason for the parents to give an interview for the first time. "Maybe someone gives themselves a jolt and says I've seen something. Maybe even someone from the direct vicinity of the perpetrator," says Jens-Uwe Gehricke.

In conversation with the stern, the parents describe in detail how the day went. Jens-Uwe Gehricke had seen his daughter on the footpath leading from the friends' house to the barbecue area on the edge of the forest shortly before her disappearance. Inga was carrying two large water bottles, she wanted to help with the preparations for a barbecue. Shortly afterwards, she was again watched by two other children as she made her way back to the house. That was around 6.30 pm. To this day, no one knows what happened. Jens-Uwe Gehricke: "It was only 100 meters to the house. But she never got there."
For days, the huge forest area around the Wilhelmshof was searched. And also later again and again. "The idea that someone might have kidnapped her, that she had passed away," Inga's mother initially wanted to "don't grow up". "I thought: You definitely find my child, it's just a matter of time," Recalls Victoria Gehricke of the first time after the child's disappearance. But then the fear rose in her that Inga might have been taken away by someone. "You distrust everyone at that moment."
In the conversation, the parents also talk about how they tried to protect Inga's siblings from rampant fantasies and how therapists and friends helped them.

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Post by Eastree27 05.06.20 17:49

So meeting friends appears in both cases plus a bit of religion.
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Post by Tony Bennett 05.06.20 18:00

Eastree27 wrote:I think Inga vanishing on the 2nd May is key - if Maddie vanished due to a much wider network then she could be similarly linked to it.

Madeleine was reported missing on 3 May 2007, though many on this forum think that she died four days earlier, late on Sunday 29 April 2007.

Inga Gehricke was reported missing on 1 or 2 May 2015. There is a thread on the Inga Gehricke case on the forum - here:

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Post by listener 05.06.20 18:49

As a frequent visitor to Lagos, Luz and Burgau at the time of Madeleine's 'disappearance', I took an immediate interest in the 'story'.
I remember my total amazement at the immediate 'top level' governmental support given to this particular 'disappearance'.
I  remember my anger as our press/media falsely portrayed the Algarve as some kind of 'paedophiles paradise'.
I remember reading/seeing all the early conflicting stories from the McCanns, Tanner etc. and the efforts of the rest of their group to 'cover their work'.
 
For years I watched the forums, which started with the 3 arguidos. I saw all the inconstancies come and go and I wondered why and for how long could the (then Labour) government (using their mouthpiece Clarence Mitchell and UK media) support/protect the McCanns.
 
Being a little bit older now - and 'possibly' wiser? - I more understand the strength of 'the brethren'.
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Why now? Why have Clarence and the media been dusted off to spew their crap at us?
Is it a distraction conspiracy?
 
Distraction from what? - The 'R' rate rising again? - or something else?
 
It's certainly not about any impending conclusion as to what happened to that poor wee lassie.
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Post by Eastree27 05.06.20 19:01

Tony Bennett wrote:
Eastree27 wrote:I think Inga vanishing on the 2nd May is key - if Maddie vanished due to a much wider network then she could be similarly linked to it.

Madeleine was reported missing on 3 May 2007, though many on this forum think that she died four days earlier, late on Sunday 29 April 2007.

Inge Gehricke was reported missing on 1 or 2 May 2015. There is a thread on the Inga Gehricke case on the forum - here:

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I mean it's almost eight years to the day apart. So some ritual or medical killing could be linked.

I have been reading about all the doctors and other medicine professionals linked at the Ocean club so could Cornovirus all be linked to reveal new developments.
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Post by Elite138 05.06.20 19:48

Hi. Long term reader and researcher but I've not posted here before.  Just dig up some interesting things about the possible phone call between the new suspect/patsie, and the previously unknown recipient or caller who has now been named.
So the mystery phone call with Christian B is reported to have been to a man called Diogo Silva. A quick search brings out that a Diogo Silva living and working in Luz 2004 to 2012 as food an beverage manager working for Oceanico Group which serves Luz and surrounding areas including the golf courses and most probably the ocean club. Also from 2013 to 2014 restaurant manager at the mirage? He is now assistant manager at the Luz beach cafe. Might be the wrong Diogo Silva, but it looks too much like a coincidence
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Post by Jonal 05.06.20 20:48

Agree with the wiser heads here, this is a non-story. The German police have taken the jesters cap from Scotland Yard. Jim Gamble said he has worked with the BKA and now is a great time, while everyone is trapped at home to review holiday snaps! And that is the purpose of the exercise - it's more of the same. I've been watching this unfold with grim fascination. Big Jim was all set and ready yesterday, popping up here and there sure to say "bungled" and then speaking of jigsaws. I thought everyone already sent their pics to him at CEOP?

Clarence Mitchell's lockdown look suggests he wasn't so ready. His spokesman script now includes the parents' desire to "find peace".

Shameless Martin Brunt 'reported' for Sky. Dig those pinboard graphics.

BBC News tried to keep this big nothing as its lead item over George Floyd demonstrations, the Hong Kong Tianenmen vigil and all things Virus, from breakfast through most of the day but were losing it by teatime when simply irresistible footage from the George Floyd memorial came in. Sorry, Jim. Notice their timeline went to July 2020!

Newspapers were well prepped and must have sold in Royal Wedding numbers.

Trolls were scolded and newcomers fed the approved story (don't mention the dogs). ITV even dusted off the Jill Renwick shutters remark over the first KIDNAPPED clip and there was Cuddle Cat's photo op along the beach to really take us back to May '07. I'm hearing used the word 'closure' with much stress on the parent's innocence, and now we'll see how Germany's version of elite cops get the tail pinned on this pathetic donkey. A deathbed confession and "No further questions" should do it. Do we get our £12m back?

I wonder if the McCanns will sue German Public Prosecutors for hindering the search...

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Post by PeterMac 05.06.20 21:34

Eastree27 wrote:I mean it's almost eight years to the day apart. So some ritual or medical killing could be linked.

Don't even START on that sort of nonsense.  UNLESS you have a sufficient corpus of peer-reviewed scientifically tested knowledge and evidence to present.

In which case, please enlighten us mere mortals.

Otherwise we are talking about werewolves and Unicorns
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Post by Eastree27 05.06.20 21:43

PeterMac wrote:
Eastree27 wrote:I mean it's almost eight years to the day apart. So some ritual or medical killing could be linked.

Don't even START on that sort of nonsense.  UNLESS you have a sufficient corpus of peer-reviewed scientifically tested knowledge and evidence to present.

In which case, please enlighten us mere mortals.

Otherwise we are talking about werewolves and Unicorns
I mean if the theories of her being murdered for some wider reason the so called second case being at the same time 8 years later is ironic.
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Eastree27 wrote:
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Eastree27 wrote:I think Inga vanishing on the 2nd May is key - if Maddie vanished due to a much wider network then she could be similarly linked to it.

Madeleine was reported missing on 3 May 2007, though many on this forum think that she died four days earlier, late on Sunday 29 April 2007.

Inge Gehricke was reported missing on 1 or 2 May 2015. There is a thread on the Inga Gehricke case on the forum - here:

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I mean it's almost eight years to the day apart. So some ritual or medical killing could be linked.

I have been reading about all the doctors and other medicine professionals linked at the Ocean club so could Cornovirus all be linked to reveal new developments.
Don't start all that again - please.

If and when any evidence surfaces that supports such a wild notion as 'ritual or medical killing', then and only then, feel free to enlarge on the evidence.  Otherwise leave it were it belongs - in the garbage.

Now coronavirus?   Geeez give me strength!
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Post by Eastree27 05.06.20 21:47

Jonal wrote:Agree with the wiser heads here, this is a non-story. The German police have taken the jesters cap from Scotland Yard. Jim Gamble said he has worked with the BKA and now is a great time, while everyone is trapped at home to review holiday snaps! And that is the purpose of the exercise - it's more of the same. I've been watching this unfold with grim fascination. Big Jim was all set and ready yesterday, popping up here and there sure to say "bungled" and then speaking of jigsaws. I thought everyone already sent their pics to him at CEOP?

Clarence Mitchell's lockdown look suggests he wasn't so ready. His spokesman script now includes the parents' desire to "find peace".

Shameless Martin Brunt 'reported' for Sky. Dig those pinboard graphics.

BBC News tried to keep this big nothing as its lead item over George Floyd demonstrations, the Hong Kong Tianenmen vigil and all things Virus, from breakfast through most of the day but were losing it by teatime when simply irresistible footage from the George Floyd memorial came in. Sorry, Jim. Notice their timeline went to July 2020!

Newspapers were well prepped and must have sold in Royal Wedding numbers.

Trolls were scolded and newcomers fed the approved story (don't mention the dogs). ITV even dusted off the Jill Renwick shutters remark over the first KIDNAPPED clip and there was Cuddle Cat's photo op along the beach to really take us back to May '07. I'm hearing used the word 'closure' with much stress on the parent's innocence, and now we'll see how Germany's version of elite cops get the tail pinned on this pathetic donkey. A deathbed confession and "No further questions" should do it. Do we get our £12m back?

I wonder if the McCanns will sue German Public Prosecutors for hindering the search...
Not sure if it's a Non - Story if the aim is to end publicly the search and present a final 'suspect' - in time for a film to of course be made. It be the final confirmation the truth will never come out.
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Reminder that this photo was released by 'Godfather' Jon Corner on May 1st 2010, not by a German stranger behind bars in June 2020.

Not much difference 10 years makes.
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I'm not a one to say I told you so whistling  but..


Met officers blast 'lacklustre' Portuguese police and accuse them of sitting on their hands because they are 'embarrassed' of their Madeleine McCann failures



  • Investigators are accused of being 'embarrassed' by their failure to solve crime
  • Breuckner, who is in jail in Germany, lived on and off in the Algarve for 18 years
  • UK and German police have launched appeals Portuguese police remain silent
  • Met source says Portuguese police's stance on Breuckner is at odds with them



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Published: 20:45, 5 June 2020 | Updated: 21:02, 5 June 2020





Police in Portugal came under fire tonight for their lacklustre response to the biggest potential breakthrough in the abduction of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] since she first disappeared 13 years ago.

Investigators were accused of being 'embarrassed' by their failure to solve the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] originally and failed to issue any new appeals for information after convicted German paedophile Christian Breuckner was identified as the prime suspect.

Breuckner, who is currently in jail in northern [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], lived on and off in the Algarve for 18 years, was in Praia da Luz on the night Madeleine vanished and was convicted last year of raping a 72-year-old woman in the holiday resort in 2005.

But while police in the UK and Germany have launched public appeals for help in tracing the movements of Breuckner, their counterparts on the Algarve have remained silent.

A Scotland Yard source said: 'The Portuguese authorities' stance on this latest development is at odds with the Metropolitan Police and German police but it has been that way from minute one.

'The fact is that Portuguese authorities were embarrassed on a global stage at the time because the crime scene was completely destroyed, there was no forensic recovery of anything of any value etc.
'There may be slight embarrassment again that its German Police who have identified a chief suspect that could be the biggest lead yet in the investigation.
'But it is still has to be a Portuguese investigation as this disappearance – and now possible abduction and murder – happened under their jurisdiction.' 
 'The investigation is being directed from Germany,' said a police source. 'There are three forces involved in this, but the majority is coming from Germany.' 
As police in Britain and Germany appeal for witnesses who could help convict prime suspect Brueckner, it has also emerged:

  • Brueckner has been linked to the 2015 disappearance of five-year-old girl called Inga Gehricke in May 2015. The little girl with blonde hair and blue eyes was dubbed 'Germany's Maddie McCann';
  • The mystery caller who spoke with the German paedophile minutes before Madeleine was abducted has been named as Diogo Silva by Portuguese media;
  • More details of his child abuse has emerged including a sex attack on a nine-year-old girl and exposing himself to a six-year-old;
  • A friend who lived above his shop claims he was violent, beating up his underage Kosovan girlfriend and cruelly locking up his dogs in a shop 'for weeks' while the couple went on holiday to Spain and Portugal.  

Did Portuguese police let Madeleine McCann's abductor escape justice? Investigation focused on girl's parents... while German paedophile suspect was 'discarded' by detectives


Portuguese detectives who probed the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been left facing tough questions after it emerged they identified the German paedophile who is now the chief suspect in 2007 - but 'discarded' him. 
Goncalo Amaral, the man who led the investigation, confirmed in April last year that 'a German paedophile currently in jail in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]' - now named as Christian Brueckner - was identified 13 years ago as a potential suspect.
But Amaral, who was sacked after naming Kate and Jerry as suspects in the disappearance and maintains they were responsible, said Brueckner was 'discarded' after detectives 'found nothing to suggest he took Madeleine'.
That is despite revelations today that Brueckner had a lengthy criminal record including burglary and child sex crimes, lived in a property just three miles from where Maddie went missing, and can be placed in the area on the night in question using mobile phone records. 
According to German [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Brueckner was first convicted of child sex offences in Germany in 1994, aged 17.
He was sentenced to two years in jail but was released early, travelling to the Algarve in 1995 as a backpacker, where he became involved in drug smuggling.
He then spent 12 years on the Algarve dealing drugs, burgling holiday homes and even raped a 72-year-old American tourist in her apartment but was never arrested.
The sex attack on the US-born pensioner could be significant because the convicted paedophile had broken into her Praia da Luz holiday home to loot it - and police have long believed Maddie may have been snatched during a burglary.
He was then brought to the attention of Amaral as he investigated Madeleine's disappearance in 2007, but was dismissed as a 'scapegoat'. 
Speaking to Australian podcast [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in April last year, Amaral predicted that British police 'are probably going to use a German paedophile who is in jail in Germany' as their chief suspect.
He said that the Portuguese Polícia Judiciária, 'investigated him at the time but found nothing to suggest he took Madeleine.'
Amaral suggested that British police had been working up cases against two German paedophiles - one of whom died a few years ago, leaving one suspect to pursue.
In the interview, he accused British detectives of 'wanting it to be' the now-dead paedophile.

Today, there was no police activity in the resort of Praia Da Luz where Madeleine vanished in 2007.
No posters or TV appeals have been made by police who are seeking new information about the 43-year-old suspect who lived in two different houses in the area and dabbled in countless different jobs.
Portuguese detectives based in Faro are awaiting information from German investigators before launching any new inquiry into the three-year-old's disappearance.

Locals in Luz said they too were surprised that the police were not making any fresh appeals for help.
'Given the new information and how specific it is, I would have though the police could have been more active,' said a British bar owner who has lived in the resort over 20 years.
'The McCann case had a traumatic effect on the community here and tourism was affected and the police did not exactly come out of it with their reputation bolstered.'
Shop assistant Mariana said she thought the Portuguese would do all they could to solve the mystery.
'Anyone who has grown up in Praia knows all about the girl going missing. I have seen all the new appeals, but there is nothing from our police.
'I would have expected them to be more active as the girl was last seen here and it all leads back to Praia da Luz.'
A Dutchwoman named Julia, who has lived in the resort for over 30 years, added: 'They must have been aware of this man and what he was like, but did nothing.
'Now is their chance to redeem themselves and help find her body. Most people here believe the McCann girl to be dead. It is too long for her to be found alive.
'Have you seen any police out asking questions ? I haven't. I just don't understand why more is not being done.'
However, a woman who works in a pharmacy near the seafront said she was not surprised by the lack of appeals.
'They will just be going over old ground. There is nothing new for them to do.'
The latest developments in the Madeleine case have been widely reported in the Portuguese media with photos of the little girl prominent on newspaper front pages while
TV news bulletins have also led with the latest developments.
In the UK, detectives from Operation Grange – the Met Police inquiry to find out what happened to Maddie – released photos of a VW camper van and Jaguar car they see as critical to the investigation.
Both cars were used by Breuckner when he was based in Portugal.
Police have the vehicles but want anyone who saw them around the time the youngster went missing to contact them.
In Germany, police appealed for witnesses to come forward during a broadcast on the ZDF channel.
Police in the UK said they have received 270 calls and emails following the release of new information and the appeal for help.
Brueckner is understood to have been dismissed as a suspect back in 2008 by the Portuguese police.
It is not known if he was even interviewed or made a statement about his whereabouts when the youngster disappeared from her family's villa in the Praia da Luz.
At that time he did not have a criminal record, despite drug dealing and carrying stealing from hotel rooms.

In 2005 he raped a 72-year-old American woman after breaking into her apartment and filming the assault.
It was only after he showed the footage to a friend in Germany that he was arrested a hair found at the scene linked him to the attack.
Breuckner is currently serving a jail sentence in northern Germany for the attack.

Meanwhile the Portuguese lawyer of Kate and Gerry McCann said they have 'new hope' and 'want to know the truth'
Rogerio Alves, who has traditionally assisted the McCanns as their criminal lawyer, said this week's revelation police have a new suspect means the 13-year-old mystery could be closer to being solved.
Mr Alves told respected Portuguese daily Jornal de Noticias: 'A new lead publicised by the police, which is therefore not an anonymous lead or a frivolous one, is obviously going to give the family hope.
'The family want this investigation to continue because the case is still active and hasn't been resolved. Madeleine's parents want to know the truth.
'They hope this lead can lead to the discovery of the truth, so we will be able to know what happened, what crime was committed and who committed it and what happened to Madeleine and whether's she alive.'

Portuguese police hit back at criticism over the way Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'slipped through their net' 
By Paul Thompson
Portuguese police have hit back at criticism over the way Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner slipped through their net.
The 43-year-old sex offender only began to be treated as a serious suspect a decade after Madeleine's May 3 2007 disappearance following a bar admission to a friend
The Portuguese Policia Judiciaria, who carried out the initial investigation, has faced questions over why Brueckner was not targeted sooner and why they have not issued new appeals for witnesses.
The forces deputy director insisted the German's name was one of those passed on to British police in case files in 2012 - and said Scotland Yard had never asked to take a closer look at him.
Carlos Farinha said: 'If the suspicions about this man were so obvious, he would have been the subject of requests made by the British, which were always authorised by Portugal, but those requests about him were never made.'

He added, in an interview with Portuguese news agency Lusa which was carried by Portuguese newspapers today: 'If the PJ is being accused of giving Brueckner a lack of priority, the same could be said of the Metropolitan Police.
The PJ chief told the Lusa reporter, in an interview published in newspapers like Correio da Manha: 'In theory everything could have been different but in 2007 and in 2012 we didn't known what we knew in 2017.'
He said this week's fresh appeal was an initiative of the German police who were convinced it could lead to additional information coming in from the Germany community.'
But appearing to hint the evidence the three police forces have at the moment may not be enough to bring charges and a successful prosecution, he was quoted as saying: 'Suspicions about the German national have grown but unfortunately they are not enough to make him an arguido and formally accuse him.'
Asked about disgraced former police chief Goncalo Amaral, who has been a constant critic of Kate and Gerry McCann, he told Lusa he regretted the fact his name continued to be linked to the PJ probe and said 'many people had worked on the investigation' after he left the force in 2008.


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How dare they - how bloody dare they.  I'm so angry2 !!!

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Post by Mainline 05.06.20 22:10

I keep reading of press 'seeing things', but no actual sources.

Can anyone verify there having been video presented in CB's trial for the 2005 assault? Or is it purely hearsay? Because on the face of it, what man blames cats for hair transference when on the same record he was shown recording himself doing what's reported?
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Post by Guest 05.06.20 22:13

It's probably Pamela Fenn, before she caught him by the ankle as he flew through the window with the greatest of ease superman.

Bah!
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Madeleine McCann suspect linked to boy, 6, who disappeared from beach in 1996.


Another one.
René Hasee is his name.
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Madeleine McCann suspect linked to boy, 6, who disappeared from beach in 1996.


Another one.
René Hasee is his name.

Various people have told me that Rene Hasee was believed to have been caught in a riptide. After a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I'm not in a rush to believe a phantom is a better suspect.
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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 05.06.20 22:39

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Eastree27 wrote:I think Inga vanishing on the 2nd May is key - if Maddie vanished due to a much wider network then she could be similarly linked to it.

Madeleine was reported missing on 3 May 2007, though many on this forum think that she died four days earlier, late on Sunday 29 April 2007.

Inge Gehricke was reported missing on 1 or 2 May 2015. There is a thread on the Inga Gehricke case on the form - here:

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I concur with the narrative that Madeleine sadly passed away on Sunday 29 April 2007
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Post by sharonl 05.06.20 23:47

Is this the old barn or farmhouse that these reports are relating to?

Blood on towel may be from Madeleine

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By Matt Drake in Praia da Luz and James Murray
2 December 2007

THE hunt for Madeleine McCann was last night centred on a disused barn near Praia da Luz, where police found a towel possibly stained with the fouryear-old's blood.

Fibres found on the towel allegedly match fibres from the hire car rented by Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.

Portuguese detectives discussed the breakthrough when they met police and a Crown Prosecution Service official last week in Leicester.

Today, for the first time, the Sunday Express can shed light on the new avenue police are pursuing in the hope of a breakthrough in the baffling case.

Based on fresh information from a mobile phone surveillance, police began a search of an area in the south east of the resort.

They came across a towel, with an Aztec design, by a disused barn in a remote area near Praia da Luz.

Portuguese sources say forensic scientists used a substance called luminol to look for blood deposits and found three sites on the edges of the towel.

From the sites they tested the blood deposits to see if there was a match with Madeleine McCann's DNA.

Although the samples were not good quality the scientists were able to do what is called low copy analysis which showed there was "moderate" support to suggest the deposits matched Madeleine's blood.

The results were not conclusive and are not regarded as being strong enough to be presented as evidence in any court case.

But close analysis of the towel revealed fibres which were not made of the towel material.

The fibre fragments were microscopically examined against fibres found in the boot of the Renault Scenic car hired by the McCanns 25 days after Maddie vanished.

Portuguese police sources say there was "strong support" that the fibres found on the towel matched fibres from the boot of the car.

One possibility being considered by the Portuguese detectives was that the towel had at some point been in the boot of the Renault Scenic car, which would explain how fibres had got on it.

Meanwhile, a close friend of Kate and Gerry McCann who was holidaying with them when Madeleine vanished will be questioned by Portuguese police this week over a "mystery' phone call.

Dr Russell O'Brien, 36, has come under investigation after a team of telephone surveillance officers highlighted a mobile call made to the missing four-year-old's father more than a month after she disappeared.

Portuguese detectives are now working on the theory that a call made between Gerry McCann, 39, and Dr O'Brien is the missing link that could help them find Madeleine's body.

Investigators are focussing their inquiry on the exact whereabouts of Dr O'Brien when the call was made on June 10.

Gerry McCann said the call was made within four kilometres of the Mark Warner resort.

But technicians have now dismissed his claim after examining data records taken from specified areas near to where the child went missing.

It is understood key words aroused police suspicions.


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