Alternative Theorizing

I want my comments removed now stop being spiteful and nasty and do this.
I am reporting you for this and I will not be letting this go, so do the right thing and have some respect and remove my comments. You are not nice people you are disrespectful and downright audacious and hostile and I get a very bad vibe off you people I do not want to be associated with you or this forum and I want my comments removed immediately. I will sue you if I have to. Stop wasting my time.

Good luck with that.   You chose to post  "gossip".  Nobody twisted your arm so to speak.   You are the one who is making nasty comments to posters who genuinely wanted to find out more about your posts.

Cheerio.  Pop back in if you hear any more" info" at your new hairdressers.  I look forward to hearing it - if there is any.

KJS wrote:I want my comments removed now stop being spiteful and nasty and do this.
I am reporting you for this and I will not be letting this go, so do the right thing and have some respect and remove my comments. You are not nice people you are disrespectful and downright audacious and hostile and I get a very bad vibe off you people I do not want to be associated with you or this forum and I want my comments removed immediately. I will sue you if I have to. Stop wasting my time.

You emailed me on Sunday 3 March at 9.16pm to say you were going to report this forum to the regulator and authorities because the replies to your post "were a contravention of your human rights and freedom of speech".

Because your allegations are extremely serious, your comments and replies will need to remain in place so that the regulator and authorities can see for themselves what has happened to cause you so much trauma.

The regulator is Forumotion. I'm not sure what authorites you intend to report us to, but I hope you are successful in finding out that information for yourself. Once that has been done then I will gladly delete your comments. I'm sure you can appreciate why I cannot delete the comments prior to any investigation.

Verdi has given you the link to enable you to delete your account.

Right the police will be contacted tomorrow and you will be reported for cyber abuse you were warned and you see fit to damage me like this so you will pay the price you are horrid evil nasty spiteful trolls who should never be allowed to run a forum like this, you have no respect for anyone, you are a total and utter disgrace you audacious cocky madam, well I will make sure now that no one joins this forum as I shall warm people online to setter clear you are the sort of trolls that get the internet a bad name, well you have not seen the last of this and you were warned so if it is war you want then that is what you will get. How dare you abuse me like this. Horrid vile individual - karma will take its course to believe me it will and serve you right. What goes around comes around. You will pay.

What an eccentric performance  

Surely it's for KJS's own benefit that the comments remain?

When she goes to the Police and the Regulator today to raise her complaints about us contravening her human rights and freedom of speech and they arrive here without further ado, what on earth would they say if all the comments were not available for them to see?

KJS would look rather silly and hysterical and might even be accused of wasting police time.

In fact, she might even be accused of trolling and abuse herself!

And that would never, never do.

KJS is online as we speak. Perhaps she could up-date the forum on progress so far with her complaints.

I think we need to be prepared - the gloves are off ....

What!  No police bashing down your doors yet Jill.  Well I never. 

You certainly copped the hairdryer treatment up thread from KJS.  So much so I thought KJS would have been up the cop shop straight away so upset was she that she couldn't get her post PERManently removed.

KJS  came up with some bovine excrement - or was it sham poo? Can't resist a spot of juvenility.

Did I tell you about the time when I went to my hairdresser? Oh wait - I am bald!

   I wonder where this hair dresser got her information from?

Oh, yes - it was Grandma Healy gossiping at the salon.  As if

I have found some toys on the floor, anyone know who they belong to|?

Further to the posts much earlier in this thread on Reverse Speech, I found a few more examples in the recent Australian podcast series. Transcribed and shared here, because I know Verdi is such a fan.

             

PeterMac: "[It's very obvious that the shutters were not] damaged, or smashed, or forced, or jemmied, and it was at that point that I thought this is very, very strange."

Reversal: "I know suspicion - they say a fire exit."

My interpretation: "Fire exit" is metaphor for the alleged use of the window by the abductor to make a quick escape; a suspicious story which doesn't hold up in his opinion.

              

Jim Gamble discussing the early days of the investigation: "[Looking back, and it's a long time ago now, I think the word] that springs to mind for me is that there was a feeling that there was the intervention of a colonial power. "

Reversal: "Girl would be found with the nationalistic happy feet."

Interpretation: The Portuguese authorities wanted to be the ones who found Madeliene, for reasons of national pride.

             


Gerry discussing Amaral's book: "The hardest emotion is anguish, despair and of course anger that [someone who was so close] to the investigation claims to prove without any evidence that our missing daughter - to whom we've done everything within our power to find - states that she is unequivocaly dead." 

Reversal: "It's so close, so it numb us."

Interpretation: They were emotionally numb either because Amaral's theory was close to what actually happened, or because he was so close to the investigation. "It's so close" suggests the theory; if you were referring to the person you'd probably say "He's so close" instead.

             

Gerry: "It starts off stating right at the beginning that M is dead, that there was no abduction, and essentially claims that myself and my wife and our friends are liars and we'd be so cold and ruthless as to [hide our daughter's body rather than try and] help her should something have happened."

Reversal: "Be harsh - make them arguido - the storm front is near."

             

Gerry: "When the file was closed, it was made [explicitly] clear that there was no evidence that M is dead."

Reversal: "Killed theirselves"

Interpretation: He thinks (wrongly) that the statements made by the Portuguese police when they closed the case file killed any prospect of them ever reconsidering a death scenario.

             

Alan Pike, Crisis Psychology: "It's quite normal, in an investgation to a child disappearing, for the people who are closest to them [to be investigated]. Really I don't think that being made arguido was particularly traumatic for them."

Reversal: "Hagart sent me from the beast."

Interpretation: He was flown out to help the McCanns. I've no idea who "Hagart" or "the beast" might be.

AlexBG wrote:Further to the posts much earlier in this thread on Reverse Speech, I found a few more examples in the recent Australian podcast series. Transcribed and shared here, because I know Verdi is such a fan.

Wise thinking !

Verdi wrote:

AlexBG wrote:Further to the posts much earlier in this thread on Reverse Speech, I found a few more examples in the recent Australian podcast series. Transcribed and shared here, because I know Verdi is such a fan.

Wise thinking !

...a bit of Friday fun eh Verdi!!?

Reverse speech?

skcollob s'ti.

Here is the link that explains why the McCanns claimed the sniffer dogs were misled by dirty nappies:
Mi6 smuggled spy Godievsky and used dirty nappies to mislead the border guard's dogs!


Having a lazy afternoon I just watched UK Yesterday channel about the smuggling of double spy Gordievsky out of Russia in boot of car driven by 'innocent family with child' MI6 operatives or helpers.
There was concern over possibility of border guard dogs sniffing Gordievsky out - so either by intentional plan or quick thinking the mother threw dirty nappies on ground and dogs sniffed them and ignored boot.

Instantly I thought of Kate McCann claiming dirty nappies carried in hire car boot but obviously modern nappies don't leak!  
And surely pair of doctors would know to safely bag any used nappies! 
And of course in hot resort would Maddie's siblings actually expel much urine as they would be losing lots of sweat?
And of course the heat would dry the nappies quickly even if soaked by kid peeing lots?


I just watched the latter end of this video about MI6 smuggling Russian double agent out and saw MI6 distracting dogs with dirty nappies!
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So add the fact that British top police were involved with Maddie's death from first few hours and it is easy to realise:
- deleted by admin -. When sniffer dogs were mentioned McCann and MI6 gang knew they were in trouble. Dogs smelled Maddie's blood and body fluids in flat and hire car. One of MI6 or police knew of Gordievsky escape trick.
Hey Presto: Smirking McCanns said dogs mistook dirty nappies for Maddies decomposing body fluids!
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Sorry to say pbslady, your post is utter nonsense on every level.

If your intention is amusement then again I'm sorry - it's not funny.

I've moved your post here for obvious reasons.

Please be mindful about what you post on CMOMM, the forum is constantly monitored by the McCanns and their legal representatives. It's not helpful to make seemingly accusatory statements.

I trust you understand.

I have followed this story on and off since it occurred in 2007-so far nothing has convinced me that Maddie ever existed- I appears to be a complete hoax- what the original agenda was I have no idea but surely if it wS I tended to be covered up all media publications about it would have been stopped- yet 12 years on it is still ongoing with no more sense being able to be made of it Than there was in the first year

Oh dear ....

What's this..

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Scotch mist?

Here's throwing some mud at the wall to see what might stick...…...

As we know, there's little in the abduction scenario to implicate Mark Warner (MW) as being negligent or in any way blame-worthy. Indeed if the McCanns had used the Night Creche service the "abduction" wouldn't have happened. Madeline was not in the care of MW at the time of her disappearance. Thus we all wonder at the size and speed of the response by MW to the disappearance of Madeline. So, I pondered along the lines of:

What if someone at MW at the local level of management was using vacant apartments to host swinging parties. It would need the further collusion of cleaners at least and money would have to pass hands (presumably cash). I could imagine swinger groups being told by word of mouth that by using certain key words or phrases when booking with MW in Praia DL one can gain access to an additional apartment(s) at certain times and that it can all be "arranged" once you get to the resort. David Payne was certainly very particular about the layout of rooms for his group of holidaying friends. This could be done without the top brass being aware. If the facts around Madeline's disappearance were linked to this covert activity could it have forced the local people to confess about what had been going on and thus MW had to jump in quick to try and save their corporate reputation from something that could have been commercially devastating? Bell Potinger may have been instructed to cover the trail of what happened. Indeed, if such an apartment (or apartments) existed, one of them may have become a temporary hiding place, though that seems like a very high risk strategy...... 

As an aside I once checked into a London hotel very very late when working away only to find a couple in my room "at it". I was promptly given another room. The following day several work colleagues in the office said that there were many cases of hotel staff sub-letting no-show rooms out to local pimps for cash. That's partly why I wondered about the possibility of swinging facilities being made available under the cover of respectability without the corporates blessing.

Just a thought.

Oh please  not the 'Textusa' theory again!

Go back from whence you came and check-out all the other bizarre theories documented over the years.

I guess it could be said that Textusa has to hit on a good note at least once - unfortunately I think it beyond the realms of possibilty.

I trust your reasons for being a member of CMOMM are honourable crispbee2000.  From where I'm standing it's looking a bit doubtful.

What's the point of offering people the chance to debate theories if one of the moderators slams you down and doubts your integrity? I do not follow textusa and so if this is tired old ground that has been previously proven to be a non-starter - then I apologise. That is if you,Verdi, can get off your high horse and stop slamming people down. It's not the first time that you've done it Verdi, is it? You say that my idea (which I stated was mere speculation - put out there to see if it chimes with information that others have gained) is  "beyond the realms of possibility" but you make no real points that disprove it. Perhaps you can tell us why you believe the corps and agencies responded so quickly and robustly?

Nothing surprises me about that group of people I think they were all into each other and their kids , a very special group of disgusting people the gasper statements come to mind.

Didn't Kate McCann say something like "We were all in to each other"?

crispbee2000 wrote:What's the point of offering people the chance to debate theories if one of the moderators slams you down and doubts your integrity? I do not follow textusa and so if this is tired old ground that has been previously proven to be a non-starter - then I apologise. That is if you,Verdi, can get off your high horse and stop slamming people down. It's not the first time that you've done it Verdi, is it? You say that my idea (which I stated was mere speculation - put out there to see if it chimes with information that others have gained) is  "beyond the realms of possibility" but you make no real points that disprove it. Perhaps you can tell us why you believe the corps and agencies responded so quickly and robustly?

With respect cripsbee2000, CMOMM is a serious forum that's been beavering away for nine years, probing every aspect of a crime committed now in excess of twelve years ago.  Any number of theories have been presented over the years, from the sublime to the ridiculous - Textusa theory of swingers is just one.

To save time and energy expanding on a topic that has been long since debunked, suffice to say there is no evidence to suggest Madeleine McCann's disappearance was in any way connected to a covert swingers club.  The theory defies logic.

Take your mind back to the very beginning and the evidence available, pick it apart until left with only the vitals - that's what CMOMM has been doing over the years.

Here on CMOMM we really do try to stick to evidence when purporting any hypothesis.  Please don't take offence by my brusque attitude, this case is enough to try the patience of a saint - and I ain't no saint.

ETA:  There is only one moderator here on CMOMM - and that be me that it be