OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS

Verdi wrote:Sunday Mail online - Tracey Kandohla  [bless!]

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said tonight: 'Kate and Gerry remain incredibly grateful to the Home Office and the Met Police for the continued work into the search for their daughter.'

He added: 'But, like the police, they will not be commenting on any operational details.'  

Now where have I heard that before?

Family​ spokesman !    Err , so you haven't been given the order of the​ boot then ?

Incredibly​ grateful​ !  For what ? Oh yes you're not " suspects " are you?

Like. The police ! So now they​ are​ like​ the police , well the level​ of "search " is about the same !

 They​ will​ not​ be commenting !  No but you​ will won't you ?

The NHS is in dire need yet 2 of their doctors​ are happy​ to have yet more​ money spent on a "whitewash " Shame on you !

Wow! that games board must have been miles away. They threw that final dice last summer and it still hasn't landed! However, we can rest assured that Op. Grange is "cracking on" (perhaps that should read "on crack" since it has obviously lost all logical reasoning ability).I don't believe this is a real statement from the Met. It is McMediaCann tosh to distract from what is happening in Portugal. Theresa May does not know what the Supreme Court's next statement will be and is hoping that by being seen to continue to support the McCanns a message will go to the Portuguese that Gerry and Kate still enjoy the confidence and protection of the British establishment. They must presume that any findings from the court may not emerge for some months. Meanwhile Tracey et al are gearing up for an anniversary fest. Expect fantastic and lurid tales in the weeks ahead.

There was an extra £90,000 or so made available a while ago, and still no conclusion. Now more dosh is allotted. Why don't the McCanns pay the Met themselves?

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Looking at the unmoderated comments on these never-ending Kandohla articles, in particular, I fear Clarence and Tracey are whipping up a dangerous frenzy of anger and hatred towards the McCanns - and it's not a good situation for the twins, especially if some of the kids' parents are angry towards the McC's and they pick up on it.

Kids can be little buggers and some don't need much excuse to bully.

For Gods' sake Clarence and Tracey...give it a rest for the sake of the kids. And it's not just the twins...even the Tapas crew have kids and all of them are affected by the McCann's scam to a varying extent. How would you feel if your own kids were on the receiving end of all this rubbish?

Well put GGG with regards to Tracey and Clarence double act,PR push for or against Mr&Mrs McCann?
You can bet your life that Operation Grange will no doubt quickly have departed to Portugal PJ,a new letter to formally interview their number one lead in Madeleine's disappearance?,
In regard to the letter being accepted by the Portugal PJ,any Arquido to be given the similar rights,that they have a top legal professional as what they are required to answer,as we wouldn't want any Miscarrage of Justice in this case,especially a manufactured"Patsy"would we?
Colt Severs to base,we need a **ll Guy?

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Looking at the unmoderated comments on these never-ending Kandohla articles, in particular, I fear Clarence and Tracey are whipping up a dangerous frenzy of anger and hatred towards the McCanns - and it's not a good situation for the twins, especially if some of the kids' parents are angry towards the McC's and they pick up on it.

Kids can be little buggers and some don't need much excuse to bully.

For Gods' sake Clarence and Tracey...give it a rest for the sake of the kids. And it's not just the twins...even the Tapas crew have kids and all of them are affected by the McCann's scam to a varying extent. How would you feel if your own kids were on the receiving end of all this rubbish?

You should take a look through the comments in this Metro article................ 
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I also worry for the twins and the tapas crew's children. Bullying is rife in schools and some kids are going to get great pleasure in repeating what they've either heard from their parents or friends or even read for themselves.

It's understandable that the general public are angry and people should be allowed to comment on these articles but some moderation is most definitely needed.

GGG I hear what you say about the twins and tapas children, but surely anything accredited to Mitchell and Kandohla has been agreed? They didn't think about any of the children when they made the decision to shout abduction on 3/5/07. I do feel sorry for all the children involved in this circus, but my real concerns are for Madeleine, Dr Amaral, his family and Brenda Leyland.

jay2001 wrote:GGG I hear what you say about the twins and tapas children, but surely anything accredited to Mitchell and Kandohla has been agreed? They didn't think about any of the children when they made the decision to shout abduction on 3/5/07. I do feel sorry for all the children involved in this circus, but my real concerns are for Madeleine, Dr Amaral, his family and Brenda Leyland.

For one thing, it's very surprising that - in this atmosphere of people (including apparently respected researchers) screaming 'trolls', 'libel', 'hate', 'abuse' etc. - that any newspaper would agree to publish some of the comments that have been allowed recently.

For another, I believe that Sean and Amelie are now 12 years old. It will surely be for their own long-term mental well-being the sooner they, and everybody else, gets to find out what really happened to their older sister?

My current avatar is the sign: 'STOP McCANN CIRCUS'.

If the twins are being harmed or damaged, surely it is the McCanns' determination to keep themselves in the spotlight that is causing most of any harm done to them?

Could they not have spared the twins from the (unsuccessful) libel action against Amaral, the book and its serialisation, the charade of Operation Grange, Oprah Winfrey and Piers Morgan, all the other TV shows and interviews, the fund-raising, the marathons, the appearances for Missing People, the Hacked Off campaign etc. etc.?

I sincerely hope the twins don't one day regret that their parents spent so much time and effort on all of those activities, rather than taking them on outings and playing Monopoly with them

Tony wrote:For one thing, it's very surprising that - in this atmosphere of people (including apparently respected researchers) screaming 'trolls', 'libel', 'hate', 'abuse' etc. - that any newspaper would agree to publish some of the comments that have been allowed recently.

Ammunition.

Pure and simple.

Which is why we must shout long and loud about the stuff which is not from us.

A campaign is coming against freedom of speech.

Awkward questions and opinions based on critical thinking... they can't do you for that.

wickerman wrote:There was an extra £90,000 or so made available a while ago, and still no conclusion. Now more dosh is allotted. Why don't the McCanns pay the Met themselves?

As far as I know the Met are not for purchase.

suzyjohnson wrote:

wickerman wrote:There was an extra £90,000 or so made available a while ago, and still no conclusion. Now more dosh is allotted. Why don't the McCanns pay the Met themselves?

As far as I know the Met are not for purchase.

True enough, but they could give the money to HMRC. I'm sure they'd accept it.

There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

suzyjohnson wrote:There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

It hasn't occurred to me either - and I'm not one of them.

It's all McCann inspired propaganda, a well orchestrated phishing exercise through the auspices of the media.  They've been doing it for nigh on ten years and it works every time..

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You'd think the general populace would have learned by now - don't get sucked in.  Starve them of oxygen and they will suffocate - they can't survive without a responsive audience.

Please can anyone copy and post a copy of the Mirror article from the actual paper today, bottom, a few pages in (not the online version).

Read it in the 'Chippy' and it spouts even more rubbish than the online version.

Want to raise another press complaint, but went to buy a copy of the paper to get my facts right, but they had all gone.

Thanks

Verdi wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

It hasn't occurred to me either - and I'm not one of them.

It's all McCann inspired propaganda...

@ Verdi - You beat me to it by seconds. It was as clear as a bell to me from Day One that Opeation Grange was a sham, a charade, from the get-go.

@ suzyjohnson - We know the remit was only to investigate the McCanns. We know the Prime Minister's spokesman said on Day One that the operation - the review/investigation - was to help the family. The remit hasn't changed. Last month we were told that Scotland Yard were looking for a gang of European paedophiles, now it's a 'lone bloke'.

I would genuinely be astonished if you could give me even a scrap of evidence that they "might be invesiagting the McCanns".        

Can you?

Tony Bennett wrote:

Verdi wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

It hasn't occurred to me either - and I'm not one of them.

I would genuinely be astonished if you could give me even a scrap of evidence that they "might be investigating the McCanns".        

Can you?

Ok, maybe it hasn't occurred to SY either.

It just proves that they are taking notice of what the justice seekers are saying.

We query the investment and within weeks the cash is returned to the fund, are so we are told.

suzyjohnson wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Verdi wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

It hasn't occurred to me either - and I'm not one of them.

I would genuinely be astonished if you could give me even a scrap of evidence that they "might be investigating the McCanns".        

Can you?

OK, maybe it hasn't occurred to SY either.

Really? Come off it. They can read threads like his one: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] just the same as you and I can. You, me and them; we all have a pair of eyes.

Tony Bennett wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Verdi wrote:

suzyjohnson wrote:There are thousands of comments in the newspapers today, along the lines of why aren't the McCanns funding their own investigation? It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that SY might be investigating the McCanns.

It hasn't occurred to me either - and I'm not one of them.

I would genuinely be astonished if you could give me even a scrap of evidence that they "might be investigating the McCanns".        

Can you?

OK, maybe it hasn't occurred to SY either.

Really? Come off it. They can read threads like his one: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] just the same as you and I can. You, me and them; we all have a pair of eyes.

I was joking Tony :)

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ChippyM wrote:How can the media blatantly lie like this and constantly get away with it? where is the direct quote from police saying they are investigating one particular person?  There isn't any such confirmation!

Exactly. 
And I keep looking for the most recent official piece of news in this sorry saga- the Supreme Court of Portugal' s ruling on their status as suspects. Anybody got a magnifying glass? It must be there somewhere in a balanced piece of journalism..

Phoebe wrote:Theresa May does not know what the Supreme Court's next statement will be and is hoping that by being seen to continue to support the McCanns a message will go to the Portuguese that Gerry and Kate still enjoy the confidence and protection of the British establishment. They must presume that any findings from the court may not emerge for some months.

Sorry - what's all this about, have I missed something?

As far as I'm aware, the Lisbon Supreme Court ruling is final.  There have been murmerings through the UK media about the McCanns and their lawyer demanding that the Supreme Court ruling be revoked because they say the court's decision was 'frivolous'  -  good luck with that one I say!

The Supreme Court ruling has been ratified, there can't be 'a next statement' or 'any findings that may not emerge for some months' - surely?

"He states that the break-ins to the apartments are common, especially for burglary purposes, and that some are the result of clients leaving their doors open."

Oh dear, NO valid 'insurance claim' there then, for the McS!

"So, HOW did the bungling burglators, who took 'nothing of value', actually get in to your apartment Mr and Mrs McCan't?"

"We erm, y'know, to be honest, yeah, LEFT the door, um, open"

"NEXT!"

Thx to 'cherry1'

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Taxpayer fury as police handed extra funding to look for missing Madeleine McCann

TAXPAYERS blasted a decision to extend the police hunt for missing Madeleine McCann by another six months.

By Jerry Lawton / Published 12th March 2017

The Home Office is to hand the Metropolitan Police £85,000 to continue its investigation.

An inquiry – which has already cost £12million – was due to be shelved at the end of the month.

But the extra cash was granted after police said they have identified an individual they want to question.

The unnamed “person of interest” was in the same part of Portugal when Madeleine – then three – vanished from Praia da Luz in 2007.

Madeleine’s former GP mum Kate, 49, and heart specialist dad Gerry, 48, said they were “incredibly grateful” the police search would continue.

But news of the decision began trending on Twitter.

One taxpayer tweeted: “The Govt has spent £13m of OUR money searching for a child who’s (sic) parents left her at home in a foreign country alone.”

Another messaged: “All these talks of those naughty Tory cuts and yet this is still being funded.”
A third wrote: “253 children listed on Missing Kids website. Why is this case special?”

A fed-up householder wrote: “I have 2 cops to police my crime-ridden area and no CCTV.”

Another taxpayer said: “Sorry but what about the millions of other missing children who had funds cut.”

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: “The investigation is ongoing.”

Wow, just wow. AT LAST! Taxpayers being angry is mentioned! Now we're getting somewhere, don't know where but its one plus to us.


Jerry Lawton

From an interview with Goncalo Amaral on CMTV 23 April 2016:
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Anchor João Ferreira - Gonçalo, what pressures did you feel during the investigation?

Gonçalo Amaral - The pressures were felt immediately with the consul's intervention (Bill Henderson) followed a few hours later after by the British ambassador (John Buck).

Anchor - The consul and the British ambassador?

Gonçalo Amaral - Yes, the consul called us at around 9am, 9:30am of the 4th of May, stating that the Judiciary police wasn't doing anything, that we were not doing anything, and that a different kind of intervention was needed, a diplomatic one. This did took place, the British ambassador who was at the time in Lisbon went to Portimão where he met with us, with me, with Dr. Guilhermino Encarnação, who was the director of the PJ of Faro, with Dr. Luís Neves, who was also present.

Anchor - And what was addressed in that meeting? The inaction of the Judiciary Police?

Gonçalo Amaral - Well, if you notice, immediately after that meeting, a press statement is drafted talking about an abductor, I believe that it was Dr. Guilhermino da Encarnação who read it, there and then the parents start talking about an abductor. The pressure was in that sense, to state that it was an abduction from the first moment.

Anchor - From the first moment there's the attempt to construct the narrative of abduction?

Gonçalo Amaral - From the first moment. It was almost simultaneous, that press statement of the Judiciary Police was read, if memory doesn't fail me, at the door of the PJ headquarters of Portimão...

Tânia Laranjo - Yes, at the the door of the Portimão's headquarters.

Gonçalo Amaral - ...and right away, on the other side of the headquarters, was the couple giving a press statement. The meeting with the ambassador had ended only a few minutes before.

Anchor - But when did you and the rest of the team of PJ investigators begin to have the belief that the explanation for this case could be in fact related to an accidental death concealed by the parents?

Gonçalo Amaral - When all the other lines of investigation, namely the abduction, reached a dead end. So we had to go back to the starting point. What should happen now, if the process isn't archived again, is to do what is obligatory when following a determined line of investigation. That is what we did then, we investigated a third party involvement, not of the parents but of others, which enables the press statements and that press statement of the couple, previously mentioned. That was the abduction thesis that was investigated. We came to the conclusion that an abduction wasn't possible. We started to have doubts, we started to question the statement of one person, another person that belonged to the group and was there, Jane Tanner, and the said conflicts, and lies that happened throughout. So, we couldn't go further in the investigation to the abduction thesis, we had to go back to the starting point. And when returning to the starting point, there's a new inspection to the apartment where the dogs brought by the British police were used. We were working in close cooperation with the British police, they were always with us until the day when the couple left. Then they all left. I wondered at the time what exactly they were doing here then, because one thing is to assist in an investigation and the investigation wasn't concluded when the couple left Portugal in September 2007, and they all left in the following day, "good bye, see you again, let's talk on the phone, exchange mails. "We were left alone when we had already reached these conclusions along with the British police input. Earlier I spoke about the Judiciary Police's opinion, but it was also the British police's opinion that was always present and present in the investigations.

Anchor - So there were members of the British police whose opinions agreed with this thesis?

Gonçalo Amaral - I can tell you that one of the officers, a former police officer, that was present when the preliminary reports were known, what he said about the results was that back in England they would already have been arrested. The issue was that report was just a preliminary one and we needed the data of the official report, which arrived at the PJ as it did. That was his opinion, affirmed in front of several people who can testify to that.

Thank you mirage - always handy to be reminded of interviews, videos etc.

plebgate wrote:Thank you mirage - always handy to be reminded of interviews, videos etc.

Thanks Plebbers.

Just another element referred to in that interview with Goncalo Amaral on CMTV -

According to Rui Pereira, (co-interviewee) the Public Ministry absented itself from the Judicial Police process in this case which is against normal procedure and experience.

The inference, as far as I understand it, being the JP were out on their own, and were not backed up by their own government department. This basically created a lop-sided equation because the British Government plus the British diplomatic corps and the British police were involving themselves in the investigative process on Portuguese soil.