The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann™
Welcome to 'The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann' forum 🌹

Please log in, or register to view all the forums as some of them are 'members only', then settle in and help us get to the truth about what really happened to Madeleine Beth McCann.

Please note that when you register your username must be different from your email address!


*** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post new topic   Reply to topic

Page 1 of 8 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

*** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by pendragon2007 on 26.04.16 10:11

Just heard on 10am BBC Radio 4 news. Police to close Madeleine McCann case soon. They have one current lead to follow but if no more evidence crops up they will close the investigation.
avatar
pendragon2007

Posts : 50
Reputation : 91
Join date : 2016-04-09
Age : 78
Location : UK

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by BlueBag on 26.04.16 10:13

@pendragon2007 wrote:Just heard on 10am BBC Radio 4 news. Police to close Madeleine McCann case soon. They have one current lead to follow but if no more evidence crops up they will close the investigation.
Maybe it's the first lead that any normal investigation should have pursued?

I doubt it though.

What a disgrace this has all been (and still is).
avatar
BlueBag

Posts : 4674
Reputation : 2445
Join date : 2014-06-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by mouse on 26.04.16 10:21

A good day for burying news on a very busy news day......

Thought this might happen - after the public's reaction going by comments on the web/newspaper sites afters the GA's Victory. Perhaps the government think this is the best time to quietly close it - but I think the public deserve to know what their money has actually been spent on. What actual manhours/police work has been done and to what conclusion. And what happened with all these leads they had?

I think the public are entitled to know.

mouse

Posts : 330
Reputation : 53
Join date : 2013-10-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by whatsupdoc on 26.04.16 10:26

@mouse wrote:A good day for burying news on a very busy news day......

Thought this might happen - after the public's reaction going by comments on the web/newspaper sites afters the GA's Victory. Perhaps the government think this is the best time to quietly close it - but I think the public deserve to know what their money has actually been spent on. What actual manhours/police work has been done and to what conclusion. And what happened with all these leads they had?

I think the public are entitled to know.
Tony Bennett is to hand in his Petition at 10 Downing Street on Friday, 29/4/16.
avatar
whatsupdoc

Posts : 601
Reputation : 320
Join date : 2011-08-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by melisande on 26.04.16 10:26

I think we all expected this.  It was a farce from day one and imo linked to the court case against Goncalo Amaral. It will never go away though. Not now that Pandora's box is well and truly opened.

melisande

Posts : 339
Reputation : 261
Join date : 2013-10-05

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Bishop Brennan on 26.04.16 10:27

Complete surrender then. It had always been the plan to wait until after the appeal - of course hoping that Amaral would be defeated along with his book and his theory. But now it's all gone wrong. Amaral is vindicated; the book is about to be published in English; 4 years x 29 of the MET's top officers found ZERO evidence of abduction.

The whole thing has been a disastrous blunder from start to finish. They couldn't even whitewash it properly - having completely underestimated the power of internet and the level of support that Amaral had. SY's every statement was analysed, discredited and exposed. Crimewatch became a laughing stock. And instead of exonerating the McCanns, the UK public is now more convinced than ever that they were involved.

So there it is - £12m of our cash spent. For nothing. And now we have the spectacle of the MET limping off stage, red-faced and in large part humiliated in the eyes of the watching world.

avatar
Bishop Brennan

Posts : 695
Reputation : 217
Join date : 2013-10-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Nina on 26.04.16 10:28

@pendragon2007 wrote:Just heard on 10am BBC Radio 4 news. Police to close Madeleine McCann case soon. They have one current lead to follow but if no more evidence crops up they will close the investigation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36138504

____________________
Not one more cent from me.
avatar
Nina

Posts : 2861
Reputation : 340
Join date : 2011-06-16
Age : 75

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by mouse on 26.04.16 10:34

Bishop Brennan - "So there it is - £12m of our cash spent. For nothing. And now we have the spectacle of the MET limping off stage, red-faced and in large part humiliated in the eyes of the watching world".

Though, Silver linings n'all that - some of them might have improved their golf handicap. 

Sorry couldn't resist!

mouse

Posts : 330
Reputation : 53
Join date : 2013-10-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 26.04.16 10:37

As shown in the recently announced successful appeal, Dr Amaral's book highlights the only lead within the original investigation that hasn't been examined. Those three monkeys - Sir Bernard, Sir Hogan & Sir Howe - need to wise up.
avatar
Rogue-a-Tory

Posts : 575
Reputation : 412
Join date : 2014-09-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Bishop Brennan on 26.04.16 10:39

As the BBC article says:

"There is a line of inquiry that remains to be concluded and it's expected that in the coming months that will happen." He said that line of inquiry was agreed to be "worthwhile pursuing" but once that had concluded, the probe, called Operation Grange, would likely end.

Doesn't sound exactly like a 'hot lead' does it.  More like going through the motions as they all slink off back to London.

The article does highlight just how extensive was the wild goose chase however. Further evidence for the feeling that "it must have been the parents after all" - a conclusion that the UK public appears to have largely accepted.
avatar
Bishop Brennan

Posts : 695
Reputation : 217
Join date : 2013-10-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by woodbine on 26.04.16 10:40

Not a good day for the uk police force as they are also just about to be held accountable for the Hillsborough disaster, another cover-up that has gone on for years.

woodbine

Posts : 60
Reputation : 54
Join date : 2014-09-08

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 26.04.16 10:47

@Bishop Brennan wrote:As the BBC article says:

"There is a line of inquiry that remains to be concluded and it's expected that in the coming months that will happen." He said that line of inquiry was agreed to be "worthwhile pursuing" but once that had concluded, the probe, called Operation Grange, would likely end.

Doesn't sound exactly like a 'hot lead' does it.  More like going through the motions as they all slink off back to London.

The article does highlight just how extensive was the wild goose chase however.  Further evidence for the feeling that "it must have been the parents after all" - a conclusion that the UK public appears to have largely accepted.
Maybe they're going to follow Gerry's original advice and ask the dogs


Inspector Rover of the Yard: Woof, woof woofity mcwoof-face

Eddie: Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, WOOOFFFFF!!!!!!

Keela; Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, WOOOOOOFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Bernard H-H: Well there we have it. Woof justice for Madeleine Beth McCann.

The Parents: We'd like to thank the Met Police Force and Sir Bernard for everything. THE END
avatar
Rogue-a-Tory

Posts : 575
Reputation : 412
Join date : 2014-09-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Claire25 on 26.04.16 10:49

So they must conclude as the PJ left it then surely?


Picture from Hideho

Claire25

Posts : 134
Reputation : 77
Join date : 2014-05-24

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by woodbine on 26.04.16 10:50

Maybe now the McCanns can finally launch their own super-duper investigation. Or has that ship sailed now they have to pay court costs?

woodbine

Posts : 60
Reputation : 54
Join date : 2014-09-08

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Nina on 26.04.16 11:16

@woodbine wrote:Maybe now the McCanns can finally launch their own super-duper investigation. Or has that ship sailed now they have to pay court costs?
Well yes it has.However with some boosting for the search fund there might be folk still willing to contribute, not me though.

____________________
Not one more cent from me.
avatar
Nina

Posts : 2861
Reputation : 340
Join date : 2011-06-16
Age : 75

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 26.04.16 11:21

@Nina wrote:
@woodbine wrote:Maybe now the McCanns can finally launch their own super-duper investigation. Or has that ship sailed now they have to pay court costs?
Well yes it has.However with some boosting for the search fund there might be folk still willing to contribute, not me though.
They've got two millionaires on board who have supported them through the years - Kennedy and Smethurst. Maybe they could fund their own investigation without asking pensioners and schoolchildren, including their own fundraising twins, to do it for them.
avatar
Google.Gaspar.Statements

Posts : 365
Reputation : 236
Join date : 2013-05-15

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by aquila on 26.04.16 11:37

@woodbine wrote:Maybe now the McCanns can finally launch their own super-duper investigation. Or has that ship sailed now they have to pay court costs?
Maybe now the Met could possibly admit they were bullied by higher authorities, chose to get into bed with the UK media with their Crime Watch (two productions), get into helicopters for a photoshoot, take GPR equipment to Portugal for yet another photoshoot, take the head of the CPS to Portugal...for another photoshoot...

This BHH chappy is speaking in soundbites...but that's what he does. He only has a twelve month extension on his service so I believe. That'll be enough for him to say 'this terrible case' and to be put out to pasture, to graze with those who have four separate stomachs like a ruminant.
avatar
aquila

Posts : 8904
Reputation : 1804
Join date : 2011-09-03

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by woodbine on 26.04.16 11:41

I'd imagine to save face they would have to launch their own investigation. Without actually investigating anything of course, so it wouldn't really cost anything. Just release a sound bite now and again about some non-specific unscrupulous character who once thought about abducting someone.

woodbine

Posts : 60
Reputation : 54
Join date : 2014-09-08

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Tony Bennett on 26.04.16 11:49

@whatsupdoc wrote:
@mouse wrote:A good day for burying news on a very busy news day......

Thought this might happen - after the public's reaction going by comments on the web/newspaper sites afters the GA's Victory. Perhaps the government think this is the best time to quietly close it - but I think the public deserve to know what their money has actually been spent on. What actual manhours/police work has been done and to what conclusion. And what happened with all these leads they had?

I think the public are entitled to know.
Tony Bennett is to hand in his Petition at 10 Downing Street on Friday, 29/4/16.
Yes, God willing.

Plus a letter setting out multiple concerns with the conduct of Operation Grange, the government and the security services - from start to finish.

On Monday last week, when it suited them, it was 'reasonable lines of enquiry that...Madeleine is still alive'. There was £95,000 to continue the investigation. So what's changed since then?

____________________

The amazing symbiosis between bees and flowers:

https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/god-created-plant-pollinator-partners/  

avatar
Tony Bennett
Researcher

Posts : 14978
Reputation : 3029
Join date : 2009-11-25
Age : 70
Location : Shropshire

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Bishop Brennan on 26.04.16 12:00

@woodbine wrote:I'd imagine to save face they would have to launch their own investigation. Without actually investigating anything of course, so it wouldn't really cost anything. Just release a sound bite now and again about some non-specific unscrupulous character who once thought about abducting someone.

That sounds very plausible.  Likely too that the MET will conclude their case in a few months and I'd like to predict some or all of the following in their closing statement:


  • Despite their best efforts and thousands of leads followed, the trail had gone too cold.


  • That it was likely she was abducted but that they could not find enough evidence to prosecute.  


  • Sorry to the poor parents and always open to new info.


Pressure may be brought to include words that exonerate the McCanns, but in the end it's been a giant waste of money and ultimately a failed whitewash, regardless of their concluding statement.  Amaral finishes victorious, the book is published, and the public come to their own conclusion about why SY were unable to find any trace of abduction.
avatar
Bishop Brennan

Posts : 695
Reputation : 217
Join date : 2013-10-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by MRNOODLES on 26.04.16 12:00

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@whatsupdoc wrote:
@mouse wrote:A good day for burying news on a very busy news day......

Thought this might happen - after the public's reaction going by comments on the web/newspaper sites afters the GA's Victory. Perhaps the government think this is the best time to quietly close it - but I think the public deserve to know what their money has actually been spent on. What actual manhours/police work has been done and to what conclusion. And what happened with all these leads they had?

I think the public are entitled to know.
Tony Bennett is to hand in his Petition at 10 Downing Street on Friday, 29/4/16.
Yes, God willing.

Plus a letter setting out multiple concerns with the conduct of Operation Grange, the government and the security services - from start to finish.

On Monday last week, when it suited them, it was 'reasonable lines of enquiry that...Madeleine is still alive'. There was £95,000 to continue the investigation. So what's changed since then?
Best of luck TB. Tread carefully  thumbsup
avatar
MRNOODLES

Posts : 747
Reputation : 296
Join date : 2013-07-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Bishop Brennan on 26.04.16 12:05

The Sun, writing about the close-down, leading the readers to the conclusion they have already formed?

"The blow for Gerry and Kate McCann comes a week after they lost a libel lawsuit against a Portuguese detective who wrote a damning book blaming them for Maddie's disappearance.

Goncalo Amaral worked on the missing girl case at the very beginning in Portugal before being laid off.

He claims Maddie died in the apartment and Gerry and Kate covered up her death by pretending she was missing.

Despite no obvious progress or viable leads in the near-decade since Madeleine disappeared, DCS Mick Duthie, head of the Met's murder squad, said they remained optimistic last week
."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7106530/Madeleine-McCann-search-to-end-in-months-as-police-say-only-one-lead-left-to-follow.html
avatar
Bishop Brennan

Posts : 695
Reputation : 217
Join date : 2013-10-27

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: *** Days from its closure, Operation Grange is extended by £100.000 and 6 more months - 18.9.2016 *** (was: There are just 15 days left to the closure of Operation Grange)

Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 26.04.16 12:15

@Bishop Brennan wrote:The Sun, writing about the close-down, leading the readers to the conclusion they have already formed?

"The blow for Gerry and Kate McCann comes a week after they lost a libel lawsuit against a Portuguese detective who wrote a damning book blaming them for Maddie's disappearance.

Goncalo Amaral worked on the missing girl case at the very beginning in Portugal before being laid off.

He claims Maddie died in the apartment and Gerry and Kate covered up her death by pretending she was missing.

Despite no obvious progress or viable leads in the near-decade since Madeleine disappeared, DCS Mick Duthie, head of the Met's murder squad, said they remained optimistic last week
."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7106530/Madeleine-McCann-search-to-end-in-months-as-police-say-only-one-lead-left-to-follow.html

I'll give the Met a couple of leads it can follow - the ones attached to Eddie & Keela.
avatar
Rogue-a-Tory

Posts : 575
Reputation : 412
Join date : 2014-09-10

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 8 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You can reply to topics in this forum