Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS

by Guest 12.03.17 8:24

Yes no need for the money I can tell you for free it was them That paid to get rid of her

If "them" is the McCanns then that is completely libelous and I would have voted "dislike".

by nglfi 12.03.17 8:42

Can I just confirm because the whole situation still baffles me - Operation Grange does not have any powers to arrest or charge anyone in connection with Madeleine's disappearance, as it is a review and NOT an open investigation?
If that is the case I'm not sure what the point of all these articles are. If all they can do is make suggestions or recommendations to Portuguese police then the amount of funding allocated seems extraordinary.

by plebgate 12.03.17 9:16

The Daily Express has reported this, the police have said they wont comment on an ongoing investigation - so who reported it to the paper?

They have narrowed it down to one person in the area - does that mean that the two men who were featured in the crime watch programme have been ruled out?

Those two plus this other person makes three people possibly in the area. It just does not make sense to me at all and I do not believe the police have divulged this info.

IIRC we heard that there was a last throw of the dice about six months ago, now it is reported there is another last throw of the dice. HUH?

When are we going to see a photofit of this person, if this person is being looked for internationally then a photo for public info. might help?

sighhhhhhhh

by **Jill Havern** 12.03.17 9:22

Total rubbish.
Invented story, to cover up what is really happening.

We know, because we can observe
They are NOT looking for Madeleine - Alive
They are NOT looking for Madeleine - Dead
They are NOT interviewing suspects in Portugal
They are NOT interviewing suspects in England
They are NOT interviewing witnesses in Portugal
They are NOT interviewing witnesses in England

Clarence Mitchell is still their spokesman, despite the report that he had been dismissed. That was clearly a Lie.

Operation Grange is NOT telling anyone anything.

BUT Grange would have had to submit a hefty report, with details of what they have done so far
and details of what they are intending to do in the next 6 months to get any further funding at all, from anyone.
The Met is on its knees for funding. C-Dick said so when she was announced as the new Commissioner.
The Home Office is under huge pressure to increase funding for policing and Prisons,

That report from Nicola Wall must have been an absolute belter !

by JulieC 12.03.17 9:38

That comment appears to have been removed.

The Met are no nearer now than they were nearly 10 years ago. It's disgusting so much money has been thrown at this investigation.

Kerry Needham must wonder what she's done wrong to deserve such a second class search fund to this pair.

I despair, I really do.

by **Jill Havern** 12.03.17 9:44

All threads of the same topic have been merged.

by ChippyM 12.03.17 9:49

How can the media blatantly lie like this and constantly get away with it? where is the direct quote from police saying they are investigating one particular person? There isn't any such confirmation!

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 9:58

@Get'emGonçalo Today at 9:22 am

Total rubbish.
Invented story, to cover up what is really happening.
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My two 'thoughts'

1) Bring out 'fireshield' Madeleine to 'divert' from Tory government 'mayhem' coming this week i.e. 'Brexit, self employed NI 'row'/broken manifesto 'promise', 'cuts' to everything'

or

2) To 'point out' the Mcs have 'siphoned off' £500,000 FROM the official FMF, into an 'unknown' fund, and have the public question WHY aren't THEY providing the £85,000 'funding', to 'search' for their child.

They have 'access' to £500,000.......'on tap'

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 10:31

From the 'mail' article:

Mrs May had come to their rescue in April 2016 granting police an extra £95,000 to help keep the search going.

And now, a financial year on, her predecessor Home Secretary Amber Rudd has approved an extra £85,000 till early October – a noticeable £10,000 less after this week's Budget woes.
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It would 'appear' to have 'slipped' the Mail's 'mind', that A Fudd also 'slipped' OG £100,000 in UK taxpayer 'funding' from October 2016-April 2017!

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So not JUST the £95,000 + £85,000 'quoted' is it?

by sallypelt 12.03.17 10:34

I can’t begin to know what is going on with OG. However, I am “not buying” this latest story about a “single person” who the police “want to talk to”. Knowing what I know about journalists, and how they operate, it is a know fact, to those who have worked in this field, that when journalists can’t get any information about a particular story, they will invent half-truths. There are many reasons for them doing this, but one example is, that they plaster stories across the front pages - when in fact they have nothing of significance to report – HOPING that they can stir up a reaction from those they hope to get some news from, and I believe that OG isn’t biting.

As for the “£85,000” new money, this is just a drop in the ocean, compared to the £12 million already spent. I think there is method behind madness, but wouldn’t like to hazard a guess what that is. However, the continuation of OG seems to be preventing the McCanns from carrying out their own “search”. Is this intentional?

Answers on a post card, please! titter

by suzyjohnson 12.03.17 10:40

plebgate wrote:
They have narrowed it down to one person in the area - does that mean that the two men who were featured in the crime watch programme have been ruled out?

Those two plus this other person makes three people possibly in the area. It just does not make sense to me at all and I do not believe the police have divulged this info.

When are we going to see a photofit of this person, if this person is being looked for internationally then a photo for public info. might help?

Most articles state that SY are looking for a person who is key to the mystery, not specifically a kidnapper, so it could be a witness?

It could be someone who worked for the Ocean Club or at the Tapas, one of six cleaners in a white van or possibly someone who was a teenager at the time who told another teenager they had seen or heard something? It could be someone who has already given a statement and doesn't realise the importance of what they know. Someone who could place a suspect in a particular location at a particular time? Know something the police can now match with some other information (not necessarily on May 3rd) ?

If SY are searching internationally for this person, and need continued funds to do so, that suggests to me that this person is not well known to police, if they were, for example, a serial offender, or dead, the police would be able to locate them fairly easily.

Also, if they were looking for a suspect, you might expect they would wish to trace this person with some urgency and issue a photo or description to the media, SY wouldn't want to do so if they were looking for a witness?

by NickE 12.03.17 10:45

Anyone more who think's they are doing this because to "hide the money" so the Portuguese court can't reach them?

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 10:48

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Answers on a post card, please!
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Dear Sally,
How's the weather back in good ol' Blighty?
It's gorgeous here, on the beach, in Barbados.
Clarrie looks like a pink lobster!
Have OG found our missing daughter yet?
Lots of love,
K and G.

by 23 Librae 12.03.17 10:55

It's all very odd. Why is there always money available for this 'investigation'?

Does anyone think there is any element of blackmail or hush money involved?

Why would it cost £85,000 to talk to a person of interest? I could travel the world a few times with that much money (budgeting wisely of course).

*Scratches head*

by Gingercat 12.03.17 10:56

£85,000 is a lot of money to ordinary people (3 or 4 times the average wage) but realistically it is a very small amount to run a police investigation of any size for a further 6 months. It works out at about £3,500 per week.

It looks to me that IF this story is true, they are either (a) winding up or (b) delaying.

If winding up - with what outcome we wonder?

If delaying - why, and why for 6 months?

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 11:16

If delaying - why, and why for 6 months?
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Because, maybe, the McS still have 'a sort of appeal/complaint', against PSC 'judges', still 'running' in Portugal?
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PDL 'resident' (2014)............ "The MET always turns up, when the sun starts to shine".

by suzyjohnson 12.03.17 11:25

Gingercat wrote:£85,000 is a lot of money to ordinary people (3 or 4 times the average wage) but realistically it is a very small amount to run a police investigation of any size for a further 6 months. It works out at about £3,500 per week.

It looks to me that IF this story is true, they are either (a) winding up or (b) delaying.

If winding up - with what outcome we wonder?

If delaying - why, and why for 6 months?

Because they need to wait for the Portuguese Supreme Court?

by NickE 12.03.17 11:27

jeanmonroe wrote:If delaying - why, and why for 6 months?
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Because, maybe, the McS still have 'a sort of appeal/complaint', against PSC 'judges', still 'running' in Portugal?

Maybe the Police want to find a body?

by **Nina** 12.03.17 11:38

suzyjohnson wrote:
plebgate wrote:
They have narrowed it down to one person in the area - does that mean that the two men who were featured in the crime watch programme have been ruled out?

Those two plus this other person makes three people possibly in the area. It just does not make sense to me at all and I do not believe the police have divulged this info.

When are we going to see a photofit of this person, if this person is being looked for internationally then a photo for public info. might help?

Most articles state that SY are looking for a person who is key to the mystery, not specifically a kidnapper, so it could be a witness?

It could be someone who worked for the Ocean Club or at the Tapas, one of six cleaners in a white van or possibly someone who was a teenager at the time who told another teenager they had seen or heard something? It could be someone who has already given a statement and doesn't realise the importance of what they know. Someone who could place a suspect in a particular location at a particular time? Know something the police can now match with some other information (not necessarily on May 3rd) ?

If SY are searching internationally for this person, and need continued funds to do so, that suggests to me that this person is not well known to police, if they were, for example, a serial offender, or dead, the police would be able to locate them fairly easily.

Also, if they were looking for a suspect, you might expect they would wish to trace this person with some urgency and issue a photo or description to the media, SY wouldn't want to do so if they were looking for a witness?

Exactly. And if OG know who this person is why is it going to take up to September and 85.000 to interview them?
If they know who it is just go and get them.
I trust that their Portuguese counterparts are also aware of this person who is going to solve the crime of the century.

by Patience 12.03.17 11:50

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Total rubbish.
Invented story, to cover up what is really happening.

We know, because we can observe
They are NOT looking for Madeleine - Alive
They are NOT looking for Madeleine - Dead
They are NOT interviewing suspects in Portugal
They are NOT interviewing suspects in England
They are NOT interviewing witnesses in Portugal
They are NOT interviewing witnesses in England

Clarence Mitchell is still their spokesman, despite the report that he had been dismissed. That was clearly a Lie.

Operation Grange is NOT telling anyone anything.

BUT Grange would have had to submit a hefty report, with details of what they have done so far
and details of what they are intending to do in the next 6 months to get any further funding at all, from anyone.
The Met is on its knees for funding. C-Dick said so when she was announced as the new Commissioner.
The Home Office is under huge pressure to increase funding for policing and Prisons,

That report from Nicola Wall must have been an absolute belter !

I agree.

A Met Police spokesperson confirmed the Home Office had approved the extra funding to continue inquiries for another six months. But he refused to say if they were now trying to quiz one final Portuguese suspect, simply saying: 'We are cracking on. The Operation Grange team are not prepared to discuss any lines of inquiry while the investigation is ongoing.'

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 12:09

BBC 'article'

21:05 Gerry McCann checks on Madeleine and her siblings
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Get your 'facts' right 'auntie'!

It was 21:04 that GM 'checks'! laughat

by Liz Eagles 12.03.17 12:13

It's time to get the calculators out folks. Hasn't Gerald McCann been reported to have saved the NHS thousands of pounds?

by Guest 12.03.17 12:18

BlueBag wrote:
Yes no need for the money I can tell you for free it was them That paid to get rid of her

If "them" is the McCanns then that is completely libelous and I would have voted "dislike".

I quite agree - it's that kind of comment that fuels the global troll witch hunt.

As I've said before - a phishing exercise on behalf of the McCann popular liberation society. These foolish people who use mainstream/social media to spread their malicious idle gossip need to be stopped - for once and probably only once, I have to agree with Gerry McCann.

They do more damage than anything else.

by Guest 12.03.17 12:32

BlueBag wrote:Any old tosh to get the headlines coming for 2017.

Meanwhile I'd like to know what OG makes of the dog evidence and if they have done any route 1 Policing.

Dogs? What dogs.... have you heard anything about dogs Cress - ooops sorry - ma'am?

by Guest 12.03.17 12:36

petunia wrote:If OG has been given an exta £85,000 why would that be a bombshell?

Because when dropped, a bombshell is very destructive and makes a lot of mess...

by jeanmonroe 12.03.17 12:39

"STAY EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE, SMITHMAN, DCI WALLY WILL GET AROUND TO INTERVIEWING YOU, IN, FIVE MONTHS TIME. DON'T YOU DARE MOVE, YOU, YOU, ERM, NAUGHTY BOY"

by Liz Eagles 12.03.17 12:39

jeanmonroe wrote:Missing People 'website'

"As you read this, there are missing children who are alone, terrified and vulnerable to harm and exploitation. We urgently need your help to protect them.
140,000 children go missing each year in the UK..."

Ooopps!

The CEO of 'Missing People', JO Y, stated 'LIVE' on the Matthew Wright show, The Wright Stuff, 'that 160,000 children go missing each year in the UK'

So, good 'result' from MP, bringing the total number of missing children, in the UK, DOWN, by 20,000 a year?

That's gotta be 'worth' an 'MBE', or two, hasn't it?

It's pretty amazing what a fun run or a cycle ride can do isn't it? positively cathartic!

by Guest 12.03.17 12:42

Nina wrote:
Exactly. And if OG know who this person is why is it going to take up to September and 85.000 to interview them?If they know who it is just go and get them.

Perhaps he/she has been kidnapped smilie

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by willowthewisp 12.03.17 12:46

jeanmonroe wrote:BBC 'article'

21:05 Gerry McCann checks on Madeleine and her siblings
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Get your 'facts' right 'auntie'!

It was 21:04 that GM 'checks'!

This is according to what the parents have stated in their statements to PJ Police and the UK Police Force,Leicsetershire, who along with their Tapas Friends are not suspects involved with Madeleine's disappearance from her holiday apartment 3 May 2007?
One of the Tapas friends told a Leicstershire Policeman(1578 DC Messinha?) in April 2008,that it was not the right time to divulge certain questions and the Police concluded the Interview!,this person stated he had seen Madeleine,Sean,Amellie at 18.30 hrs alive and well in the apartment on the above date,with the children's Mother?
The Mother refused to answer 48 Questions,but answered one question,that(KM)knew by not answering the questions,it would jeopardize the search for her Own Daughter,replied, Yes if that's what they think?
Now Ten Years later they are supposedly still looking for their Eldest Missing daughter Madeleine?
Top flight UK Police Work,nearly £15 Million pound spent and still no jurisdiction to decide any Guilty parties to a Criminal Activity,because the Portugal Authorities know what happened to vital DNA Evidence that the FSS had delivered to them,where Two different reports were produced,one verbally and the other in written format several months apart,which in their opinion would be inconclusive?
Now ask yourself one question,could you openly work alongside a Police Force who are supposed to be"Independent"yet fail to somehow follow basic Training knowledge,avoiding what a Top serving Police Officer and his team,Eddie,Keela had alerted to,on clothing and articals the parents had in their possession?

by Guest 12.03.17 12:50

Sunday Mail online - Tracey Kandohla [bless!]

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said tonight: 'Kate and Gerry remain incredibly grateful to the Home Office and the Met Police for the continued work into the search for their daughter.'

He added: 'But, like the police, they will not be commenting on any operational details.' rotfl