OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
Has the resort worker gone to live in the jungle?
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
errrr I know I'm a bit fick at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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I think it's just another in the series of "How rediculous a story can we tell and get away with? ... delaying a few more months in the process.
...especially when David Payne said he did have some more to say but not on "this forum" when talking to police... who answered "OK"....can we believe that answer? Well, yes, as quizzing the McCanns and tapas members is off limits. Did we ever get an answer as to why he rang the child protection agency just before midnight on 03-05-07?
I would listen to another 50 errrs and ummms to get to the truth.
...especially when David Payne said he did have some more to say but not on "this forum" when talking to police... who answered "OK"....can we believe that answer? Well, yes, as quizzing the McCanns and tapas members is off limits. Did we ever get an answer as to why he rang the child protection agency just before midnight on 03-05-07?
I would listen to another 50 errrs and ummms to get to the truth.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
The thought police?plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick 8at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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I like it Mirage ha ha, but maybe it's about time they started thinking about the Supreme Court ruling and how that might affect their line of thinking?Mirage wrote:The thought police?plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick 8at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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Operation stGrange-£85,000
The"Thought Police"=Them thinking outside the Box,to solve Crimes,Jill Dando's unsolved Murder,DCS Andy Redwood,Crime Watch 2013,Smithman/Creche Dad walking in opposite direction to where the Creche was situated,moving the Clock Forward moment?Mirage wrote:The thought police?plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick 8at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
Operation stGrange has "No Jurisdiction" on the Portugal PJ outcome. They will decide what to do with their part of the Investigation,(if they are investigating) not the UK Government,Alison Saunders jaunt to Portugal or the Metropolitan Police Service! influence an outcome?
Perhaps this is the"Reasoning" for the extra payments of the funding for Operation stGrange-Portugal PJ Not singing from the same"Hymn Sheet",once bitten twice as shy to the original case 2007-08,they thought different to Leicestershire Police Force or was Matt Baggot quickly removed from his position and Portugal still feel the same as they did then?
Piers and his clan clearly did not like the suggestion of a UK Police force"Botching"an investigation,aka Stephen Laurence,moving quickly on to avoid an answer eh Piers,remember your boss fleecing the Daily Mirror workers pension scheme,Captain Bob Maxwell and his clan costing Millions of Pounds to the Tax payer,when the trails collapsed against his Son's?
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
He was abducted through his bedroom window by three burglars.BlueBag wrote:Has the resort worker gone to live in the jungle?
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
I think this is the man.
Express, 18th of December 2007:
THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal.
"Police have sworn the waiter to secrecy over his vital testimony and know where he is. But friends say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and that he will come under pressure from rival factions in the case. He is scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe. Friends claim he is also wary of the team of private eyes hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to help find their daughter."
EDIT: another article.
Key witness casts doubt over Kate McCann's account of Madeleine's disappearance
A crucial witness has cast fresh doubt over Kate McCann's account of the night her daughter disappeared in a new police quiz.
Detectives consider the testimony of an Ocean Club waiter as the "trump card" in their investigation, it was claimed today.
The holiday resort employee was first on the scene moments after Madeleine's mother discovered she was missing at 10pm on May 3.
His evidence, which highlights a number of contradictions in the McCanns' statements, is said to be so vital to the police inquiry that they have re-interviewed the waiter for the third time in recent days.
Crucially, the member of staff, who has not been identified, claims that the parents and their holiday friends, the so-called Tapas Nine, did not check on their children every 30 minutes.
Contrary to what Kate McCann told police, the tapas restaurant worker also said that Kate McCann did scream: "They've taken her, they've taken her" when she learnt Madeleine was missing.
He said instead of running back to the tapas bar where she was dining with her husband Gerry and friends, Mrs McCann raised the alarm from the balcony of their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.
The mother's precise words have become a pivotal issue in the case, with Portuguese police questioning why she would automatically assume Madeleine had been abducted.
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His version of events contrasts dramatically with the account friends of the couple have given.
They claim that the 39-year-old GP raised the alarm when she ran back to the restaurant on 3 May shouting "Madeleine's gone, Madeleine's gone."
The highly respected Portuguese newspaper, Diario de Noticias reported today that the eyewitness account is considered a "trump card", critical to pining down supposed contradictions in the accounts of the Tapas Nine.
The Ocean Club employee has been re-interviewed at Portimao police station in recent days about the McCanns' behaviour where he reaffirmed his original statement.
Policia Judiciaria detectives believe the key to unlocking the mystery of Madeleine's disappearance lies within the group and alleged inconsistencies in their witness statements are at the heart of the investigation.
The revelation comes as police prepare to fly to Britain where Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday friends will be re-interrogated about their movements on the night she went missing.
Police suspect that Madeleine died in an accident in the apartment and the McCanns disposed of her body - an allegation the couple have denied.
Detectives are working on the theory some of their friends helped cover up the crime and some could be named as suspects when they are re-interviewed.
But the McCanns have always insisted Madeleine was snatched from their Ocean Club apartment while they were dining with their friends just yards away.
The waiter's account mirrors that of nanny Charlotte Pennington who said she heard Kate McCann scream: "They've taken her, they've taken her!"
But other waiters working at the holiday complex have disputed key elements of his evidence, saying that the group checked on their children every 20 minutes.
Yesterday the McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell furious denied the claims. He said: "This is all lies. Kate has consistently and categorically absolutely denied that she said that on the veranda.
"But in the evening she may have said it at some stage as a general remark, but she did not run out with this phrase.
"Whoever this guy is and if he is saying this, he is either making it up or he is mistaken.
"Kate, Gerry and their friends told the truth. They will continue to maintain their stories, because it is the truth. Whatever this guy is saying, we reject it, it is not true."
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
NickE wrote:He was abducted through his bedroom window by three burglars.BlueBag wrote:Has the resort worker gone to live in the jungle?
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
I think this is the man.
Express, 18th of December 2007:
THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal.
Police have sworn the waiter to secrecy over his vital testimony and know where he is. But friends say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and that he will come under pressure from rival factions in the case. He is scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe. Friends claim he is also wary of the team of private eyes hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to help find their daughter.
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"The terrified, of the McCan'ts team of private eyes, man, handed himself in, last night, and told UK police via 'skype' that 'it was the McCan'ts, and their friends, that he saw carrying away a lifeless child, towards the beach area of PDL'
The UK police have, unusually, for them, contacted Showbiz Nooze to say 'This is bullcrap, nobody's profited from the 10th anniversary yet, and, erm, anyway, y'know, the McCan'ts are all luvverly'
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
Just ask Donald Rumsfeld about what is known
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