When did Father Hubbard 'give notice'?

by **Tony Bennett** 17.09.16 9:19

Doug D wrote:Scratching around for 'Hubbard' stuff which seems to have gone walkabout, again from memory, hadn't he been out there previously for a short time before going back to Canada and then deciding to come back permanently?

I also have a recollection of reading something about him in the parish newsletter, but can't find it & don't recall what it was actually about.

I did some research on Father Hubbard some years ago including looking up his clerical history in (I think IIRC) Crockfords.

I will keep hunting my archive for anything relevant.

In searching however, I did come across these observations by a poster here called 'Rose Quartz'. I think s/he made them during 2013. She had been researching some puzzling entries on Father Hubbard's Facebook page including references to his daughter, Gabriella, who I think acted the role of Madeleine in that 2009 'Mockumentary'.

One thing struck me, the claim that he 'gave notice' (one week's notice?) on Tuesday 1st May.

That could back up the claims of those who suggest that something serious happened to Madeleine on the Sunday or Monday.

It would certainly be an almighty coincidence if, on the very same day that Robert Murat took the 7.00am flight to Faro, 'Father' Hubbard gave notice to his parish in Canada:

QUOTE 'ROSE QUARTZ':

Ordinarily with something like this on a Facebook page, I'd assume a simple error inputting his marriage year on his Facebook profile, but as this whole case is anything but ordinary, I think we can be forgiven our suspicions about this little snippet too!You are certainly right about that. Surely though it can't be a mistake, you would amend it once spotted. Susan doesn't feature on his FB at all. They had three children...apparently!

I wonder when his profile picture was taken? Could that be a new child of his?

Mother Hubbard spent a lot of time with Kate, also in the UK. For a mother of two or three children that seems to be quite a lot.

IIRC she was also with Kate on several occasions - last time when the libel trial started up again in September.

If that is true she'd have had to come from Canada.

The Hubbard involvement is very 'off' imo.

Calling him 'Father' where there is no indication of high church.

The Rev saying things like: 'when I came into the presence of Kate and Gerry'.

His constant affirmation of their martyrdom.

His serendipidous arrival shortly after 'giving notice' on the 1st May.

His generally giving the impression the church in PdL was his patch rather than graciously allowed to be used by the RC church.

His short tenure in Canada and 5 plus years in Pd and then back to Canada.

His not mentioning an earlier short tenure in PdL.

His wife speaking Portuguese - unusual unless she is a polyglot or had a reason for learning the language.

All the above may have perfectly good explanations - to be fair, I just don't like the man, too smug and condescending altogether IMO...

by skyrocket 17.09.16 9:56

@TB

The announcement in the Niagara Parish magazine (April 2007, page 24) for Hubbard's resignation reads as:

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'The Reverend Haynes Hubbard submitted his resignation as Rector of St. Paul's, Dunnville, and the Dunn Parish, effective April 30. Haynes has accepted a position in the Diocese of Europe, specifically as Chaplain at St. Vincent's, Algarve, Portugal, beginning May 1'.

First thing I noted when I found this last year was the fact that other resignations from the diocese seemed to give more than a months notice (which is the norm for a job change IMO); and second, that the position in Luz is given as starting on 1 May.

At the time I did quite a lot of digging and it became apparent that Hubbard was good at PR - he appeared all over the place doing all sorts of things in the parish, particularly with young people. In 2006, a young peoples' conference (Cranmer Conference) was started and in 2007 the event was advertised as being hosted and organised by Haynes Hubbard. The event was after April. I remember finding a very brief announcement posted in May/June saying that it had been cancelled due to 'unforeseen circumstance'. It would seem probable that Hubbard's departure could have been the reason. In other words, his departure does seem to have been sudden, and strange that one minute he was immersed in organising a large event which had been heralded as a great success the year before, only to leave knowing it would have to be cancelled.

I agree @DougD - a lot of info on Hubbard seems to have gone since only last year.

by **Tony Bennett** 17.09.16 10:21

skyrocket wrote:@TB

The announcement in the Niagara Parish magazine (April 2007, page 24) for Hubbard's resignation reads as:

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'The Reverend Haynes Hubbard submitted his resignation as Rector of St. Paul's, Dunnville, and the Dunn Parish, effective April 30. Haynes has accepted a position in the Diocese of Europe, specifically as Chaplain at St. Vincent's, Algarve, Portugal, beginning May 1'.

@ skyrocket Thank you very much for this quick confirmation of the date Father Hubbard gave notice (and for all the other information you regularly bring to this forum, by the way).

What you have revealed is truly astonishing, to my mind, especially given the prominent and huge role performed by each of the Hubbards for the McCanns after they arrived in Praia da Luz.

We have compelling evidence that the Last Photo was taken on Sunday 29th. The date and time of that photo may have been changed. The same day there was a highly unusual booking of the Tapas restaurant for the rest of the week, with differing accounts of who made the booking. It is even possible that the 'Make-Up' photo was taken that very same day; no-one on the forum has raised a serious objection to that hypothesis. HideHo cannot find compelling evidence that Madeleine was alive on or after Monday that week.

Against that background, it seems way beyond coincidence that Robert Murat should be summoned over the very next day, leaving England on the next day's 7am flight from Exeter, and that Father Hubbard should, apparently out of the blue, hand in his notice, also on the same day (30th April) and arrive in Praia da Luz les than a week later.

by sallypelt 17.09.16 10:26

Tony Bennett wrote:
skyrocket wrote:@TB

The announcement in the Niagara Parish magazine (April 2007, page 24) for Hubbard's resignation reads as:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (if you change the month in the page address you can hop thru all the editions)

'The Reverend Haynes Hubbard submitted his resignation as Rector of St. Paul's, Dunnville, and the Dunn Parish, effective April 30. Haynes has accepted a position in the Diocese of Europe, specifically as Chaplain at St. Vincent's, Algarve, Portugal, beginning May 1'.
@ skyrocket Thank you very much for this quick confirmation of the date Father Hubbard gave notice (and for all the other information you regularly bring to this forum, by the way).

What you have revealed is truly astonishing, to my mind, especially given the prominent and huge role performed by each of the Hubbards for the McCanns after they arrived in Praia da Luz.

We have compelling evidence that the Last Photo was taken on Sunday 29th. The date and time of that photo may have been changed. The same day there was a highly unusual booking of the Tapas restaurant for the rest of the week, with differing accounts of who made the booking. It is even possible that the 'Make-Up' photo was taken that very same day; no-one on the forum has raised a serious objection to that hypothesis. HideHo cannot find compelling evidence that Madeleine was alive on or after Monday that week.

Against that background, it seems way beyond coincidence that Robert Murat should be summoned over the very next day, leaving England on the next day's 7am flight from Exeter, and that Father Hubbard should, apparently out of the blue, hand in his notice, also on the same day (30th April) and arrive in Praia da Luz les than a week later.

Tony, I think we have to be careful about the date stating that H Hubbard handed his notice in on 30 April. I don't read it that way. To me it is saying that he ends his employment on that date, therefore, he could have handed in his notice at the beginning of April. Also, the above post says (I can't access the link) H Hubbard takes up his new position on 1 May. So, again, this article must be from a magazine that was published BEFORE 30 April, and BEFORE Father Hubbard had left for Portugal.

What do others think?

by Guest 17.09.16 10:49

sallypelt wrote:
What do others think?

I agree.

I think it can be read that way as well.

I'm also thinking this is getting too convoluted.

by Doug D 17.09.16 10:53

The notice of resignation effective 30th April is in the April edition of the Niagara Anglican, which is likely to have been published in the first couple of weeks of March.

Copy dates are:

Deadlines for Submissions
May 2007: April 2, 2007 June 2007: May 1, 2007 July 2007: June 2, 2007

So presumably notice must have been given before 2nd March to hit this edition.

by Guest 17.09.16 12:31

Doug D wrote:Scratching around for 'Hubbard' stuff which seems to have gone walkabout, again from memory, hadn't he been out there previously for a short time before going back to Canada and then deciding to come back permanently?

I also have a recollection of reading something about him in the parish newsletter, but can't find it & don't recall what it was actually about.

The Hubbards Haynes, an Anglican priest who was about to take up a new post as senior chaplain for the Algarve Anglican Church, and Susan, a midwife, arrived in Praia de Luz three days after Madeleine's disappearance. The town was in chaos as police combed the area looking for the missing British girl, reporters jostled for interviews and helicopters circled in the sky. This was no longer the peaceful tourist town the couple remembered from a previous visit when Haynes temporarily filled the role of Anglican chaplain in the former fishing village. Now he was arriving to take on the job full time.

God brought us here

The Hubbards appear to have had enough of reporters. Yet they agree to open their door to another inquisitive stranger for one reason only: because there's a chance that giving another interview just might help find the little girl they've never met.

The Hubbards now believe Madeleine's disappearance is the reason they were "called" to Portugal. Susan remembers the moment it hit her.

"It wasn't until months later, when I saw really why God had brought us here, that I was awestruck that he confirmed we were to be here before we even set foot in our town of Praia de Luz," she says. "For me, he confirmed it on the plane … the fact that there was a child missing here gave us our first mission before we even set foot in the place."

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Always wise to err on the side of caution with press reports. Another one I read yesterday claimed the McCanns already knew the Hubbards were living in Praia da Luz before flying out on 28th April 2007. Utter nonsense of course but some of the comments that followed goes to show how people readily accept what they read without question.

by Guest 17.09.16 12:39

sallypelt wrote:
Tony, I think we have to be careful about the date stating that H Hubbard handed his notice in on 30 April. I don't read it that way.

'The Reverend Haynes Hubbard submitted his resignation as Rector of St. Paul's, Dunnville, and the Dunn Parish, effective April 30. Haynes has accepted a position in the Diocese of Europe, specifically as Chaplain at St. Vincent's, Algarve, Portugal, beginning May 1'.

I agree with you. The position held by Hubbard ended on 30th April - he could have handed in his notice days, weeks months before. Who knows!

by MayMuse 22.09.16 2:28

Is this AW getting out of the car @0.30 With the McCanns, Buck and Hill?

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by Doug D 22.09.16 7:19

Can't see if he actually gets out of the car, but yes 'red folder man' AW certainly walks across the front in this clip.

by MayMuse 22.09.16 11:22

I can see it unless he is just bending down by the passenger door, K & M emerge from the back seats with the twins, it looks like Aw was in the front and JB driving? Perhaps meeting JH at the complex? It is not the McCanns car but can't make out the ref. Trying to tie down the date even though it says 12th May it could have been a few days before the interview? Maybe?

Edit. Or vice versa as are they left hand drives in Portugal?