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Post by woodbine 26.04.16 12:39

The final lead must be alien abduction. Beam of light straight into the apartment. No need to force the shutters open
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 12:41

pendragon2007 wrote:The SUN
"Despite no obvious progress or viable leads in the near-decade since Madeleine disappeared, DCS Mick Duthie, head of the Met's murder squad, said they remained optimistic last week".
 Changed their minds this week then???

He said: "There is ongoing work. There is always a possibility we will find Madeleine and we hope we will find her alive."

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Photoshoot - SY working diligently on "final lead" to find Madeleine alive.

You couldn't make it up - could you?
That's good, I'm liking it big grin !

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Post by Guest 26.04.16 12:42

woodbine wrote:The final lead must be alien abduction. Beam of light straight into the apartment. No need to force the shutters open
Doctor Who?
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Post by poppydog 26.04.16 12:44

What if the final line of enquiry is the parents...?  big grin
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Post by sami 26.04.16 12:47

It makes no difference to little Madeleine, they were never going to find her.  They set out with a brief and have stuck steadfastly to that.  

A disgrace to their uniforms each and every one of them.

With today's news from Liverpool it is clear lessons are never learned.  The rag that is the sun continues to trot out whatever rubbish they see fit to print and those fine up-standing policemen working at the time put 96 families through hell for 27 years because they failed to speak out and tell the truth.

Those families were labelled liars and conspiracy theorists.  Sounds familiar.
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Post by willowthewisp 26.04.16 12:47

Verdi wrote:
pendragon2007 wrote:The SUN
"Despite no obvious progress or viable leads in the near-decade since Madeleine disappeared, DCS Mick Duthie, head of the Met's murder squad, said they remained optimistic last week".
 Changed their minds this week then???

He said: "There is ongoing work. There is always a possibility we will find Madeleine and we hope we will find her alive."

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You couldn't make it up - could you?
That's good, I'm liking it big grin !

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Is that Sir Bernard in the background,"whistling in the Wind"?
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Post by woodbine 26.04.16 12:48

"We believe that there is good evidence to suggest that the sofa was pushed against the wall when a tardis appeared the apartment."
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 12:48

poppydog wrote:What if the final line of enquiry is the parents...?  big grin
Keep up - they were the first line of enquiry.  Somehow that got buried along with Dr. Amaral's career and who knows what else.

Not in a trillion years, this is another case to be locked away from prying eyes for the next century - regularly dragged-up and re-scrutinized by the more discerning.

Enough of this levity!
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woodbine wrote:"We believe that there is good evidence to suggest that the sofa was pushed against the wall when a tardis appeared the apartment."
Same colour curtains as the Tardis?
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Post by plebgate 26.04.16 12:50

The tv interview at the weekend given by Rocky A. and others brought up a number of things that maybe the Portugese police  will use to keep their side of the investigation open.

Rocky A. doesn't bring up certain points for no reason imo.
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Post by woodbine 26.04.16 12:53

willowthewisp wrote:
woodbine wrote:"We believe that there is good evidence to suggest that the sofa was pushed against the wall when a tardis appeared the apartment."
Same colour curtains as the Tardis?
Chosen by DCI Wall. The Tardis is how she nicks them before they know it
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 12:53

willowthewisp wrote:
Verdi wrote:
pendragon2007 wrote:The SUN
"Despite no obvious progress or viable leads in the near-decade since Madeleine disappeared, DCS Mick Duthie, head of the Met's murder squad, said they remained optimistic last week".
 Changed their minds this week then???

He said: "There is ongoing work. There is always a possibility we will find Madeleine and we hope we will find her alive."

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You couldn't make it up - could you?
That's good, I'm liking it big grin !

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Is that Sir Bernard in the background,"whistling in the Wind"?
Neigh!  It's the other bloke - here's the evidence..

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Post by Guest 26.04.16 12:56

plebgate wrote:The tv interview at the weekend given by Rocky A. and others brought up a number of things that maybe the Portugese police  will use to keep their side of the investigation open.

Rocky A. doesn't bring up certain points for no reason imo.
You bet!  It was never Scotland Yard's to play with in the first place.
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Post by poppydog 26.04.16 12:57

"Keep up - they were the first line of enquiry.  Somehow that got buried along with Dr. Amaral's career and who knows what else."


But did Grange really investigate the parents? 
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Post by woodbine 26.04.16 13:03

poppydog wrote:"Keep up - they were the first line of enquiry.  Somehow that got buried along with Dr. Amaral's career and who knows what else."


But did Grange really investigate the parents? 
The closest they came to investigating the parents was when they travelled to PDL to try to dig up the wallet that Gerry lost

And that was only because Gerry was one stamp away from a free Costa
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Post by mouse 26.04.16 13:12

Don't you think it's interesting that not only have we not heard much, since GA's Victory, from Team Mccann - but nothing from their celeb supporters. We usually have some defence of poor Gerry & Kate and what they are going through. Have their rich pals all jumped ship now? Cut their donations to the fund?
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Post by HelenMeg 26.04.16 13:30

big grin Great comment which made me laugh  - despite this news

ETA sorry was referring to Rogue a Tory : I'll give the Met a couple of leads it can follow - the ones attached to Eddie & Keela.
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Post by Jill Havern 26.04.16 13:39

HelenMeg wrote:big grin Great comment which made me laugh  - despite this news

ETA sorry was referring to Rogue a Tory : I'll give the Met a couple of leads it can follow - the ones attached to Eddie & Keela.
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Post by NickE 26.04.16 13:58

I don´t live in the UK.
Will the "OG files" become public after they close the case?

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Post by willowthewisp 26.04.16 14:00

It would seem from the recent postings articles,Sky,BBC etc, that SY's finest are still in pursuance of a Paedophile Burglar taking or involved with Madeleine's disappearance,where doe's this fit in with DCI Andy Redwood stating that Madeleine could not have been alive when she disappeared from within 5a Ocean Club apartment,reported as missing 3 May 2007,did the Burglar do it,as Sir Berard,DCS Mick Duthie are of the opposite opinion that Madeleine could be alive?
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Post by MayMuse 26.04.16 14:01

pendragon2007 wrote:Just heard on 10am BBC Radio 4 news. Police to close Madeleine McCann case soon. They have one current lead to follow but if no more evidence crops up they will close the investigation.
One current lead after all the money and time spent... One current lead? 

Would this be the first and only lead they should have pursued ...

One current lead?! 

I had one 'currant bun' once...it cost 42p,  I ate it in 5 seconds flat & that was the end of that!
What a waste of 42p. I could have counted & inspected each and every 'currant', sniffed the doughy flour, dissected & admired the pattern whirls that lead to the centre as I watched the morning sunrise.  Better still I could have toasted it ( to hell with the electricity expense) & smothered in butter savoured,chewed and contemplated each 'mouthful' in appreciation & acknowledgment of the baker who made it!!! 

5 years...12M Plus!.

There are no leads other than the McCanns et al!!!!?


What a HUGE & SHAMEFUL DISSERVICE TO MADELEINE!

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Post by woodbine 26.04.16 14:10

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pendragon2007 wrote:Just heard on 10am BBC Radio 4 news. Police to close Madeleine McCann case soon. They have one current lead to follow but if no more evidence crops up they will close the investigation.
One current lead after all the money and time spent... One current lead? 

Would this be the first and only lead they should have pursued ...

One current lead?! 

I had one 'currant bun' once...it cost 42p,  I ate it in 5 seconds flat & that was the end of that!
What a waste of 42p. I could have counted & inspected each and every 'currant', sniffed the doughy flour, dissected & admired the pattern whirls that lead to the centre as I watched the morning sunrise.  Better still I could have toasted it ( to hell with the electricity expense) & smothered in butter savoured,chewed and contemplated each 'mouthful' in appreciation & acknowledgment of the baker who made it!!! 

5 years...12M Plus!.

There are no leads other than the McCanns et al!!!!?


What a HUGE & SHAMEFUL DISSERVICE TO MADELEINE!
Well said! It's a total disgrace
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Post by suzyjohnson 26.04.16 15:00

I think Scotland Yard will have been looking at the McCanns .... they must have been .... what kind of a police force would they be if they didn't consider them as possible suspects at all? They have all the same evidence in front of them that we do. And they must have discussed it fully with the Portuguese.

They just won't want to publicise the fact due to the outrage it would cause in the Uk and the effect it would have on the other McCann children. At the moment the police simply do not have the proof either way, that Madeleine was abducted (however unlikely) or enough evidence to arrest the McCanns.

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Post by Doug D 26.04.16 15:01

At the present time (14.58) there is no official statement on the Met’s site.
 
The  BHH quotes were taken from an LBC interview this morning at 8 am when a caller asked what the chances are of finding Madeleine McCann.
 
Unfortunately sound on the the link is intermittent at present and you cannot here what he actually said, but it must have been fairly ‘off the cuff’ even if he was primed, so we have to rely on the Telegraph & BBC reports at the moment.
 
 

 Whats the saying about left hand?
 
18/4/16 - Detective Chief Superintendent Mick Duthie, the head of the Yard’s homicide squad, said officers were pursuing “justifiable and reasonable” leads in the investigation into the missing three year-old. 
Mr Duthie, who is in overall charge of the investigation Operation Grange, said: “There is ongoing work. There is always a possibility that we will find Madeleine and we hope that we will find her alive. 
“That’s what we want and that’s what the family and the public want and that is why the Home Office continue to fund it. There is work that needs to be done still. “
 
Right hand:
 
26/4/16 - Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has said.
‘The UK-based investigation into her disappearance could finish in the next few months, he told LBC radio.
The remaining line of inquiry is centred around a letter asking for assistance sent from UK investigators to the Portuguese Public Prosecution Service in July 2015.’
 
 
Is Sir BHH insinuating that in the last  week the Met have concluded that MM is no longer with us?
 
Surely they can’t stop ‘looking’ when there ‘is always a possibility that we will find Madeleine and we hope that we will find her alive’.
 
How heartless Sir B.
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 15:19

NickE wrote:I don´t live in the UK.
Will the "OG files" become public after they close the case?
Highly unlikely - it's not the norm.

Besides, a vast amount of their time has been reviewing the PJ files so it would only be a reiteration.  Add to that, their major leads and areas of interest have already been reported by way of Operation Grange updates, press releases from various representatives from the Metroplitan police and Crimewatch productions.

Who needs any more information to confirm their agenda?
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 15:23

poppydog wrote:"Keep up - they were the first line of enquiry.  Somehow that got buried along with Dr. Amaral's career and who knows what else."


But did Grange really investigate the parents? 
Keep up?  I jest as I'm sure you realise winkwink !

In answer to your question however, I think that can be answered with a resounding NO!
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Post by Portia 26.04.16 15:30

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woodbine wrote:Maybe now the McCanns can finally launch their own super-duper investigation. Or has that ship sailed now they have to pay court costs?
No can do!  That nasty evil sardine munching wine swilling foreigner has stripped them of all their assets.  First he interferes with their search by publishing libelous material about culpability which deterred the public from searching on their behalf and now a double whammy,  he going to try and steal all their loverly money that they were going to use to continue the search - as and when no official source is proactively searching for their daughter!

PHEW!
Think you nailed it there, Verdi.

This will be the only line of reasoning exonerating them for not searching in reality.

However, one word of caution. The last week has seen a lot of statements in the MSM attributed to the Mecs. What proof do we have they have really uttered them? 

We do not know what they are really doing/thinking/saying at present
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Post by Guest 26.04.16 15:31

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] D wrote:  Is Sir BHH insinuating that in the last week the Met have concluded that MM is no longer with us?  Surely they can’t stop ‘looking’ when there ‘is always a possibility that we will find Madeleine and we hope that we will find her alive’.

In fairness, missing child or not, you can't expect any police force in the civilised world to continue an active investigation without any new evidence/leads to persue.  At some stage any unsolved investigation must be shelved untilsuch times as new information may come to light.

Not of course excusing the force behind Operation Grange, I feel they exhausted all lines of inquiry somewhere around May 2011 - come to think on it, more likely around September 2007.
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Post by sonic72 26.04.16 15:37

Verdi wrote:
poppydog wrote:"Keep up - they were the first line of enquiry.  Somehow that got buried along with Dr. Amaral's career and who knows what else."


But did Grange really investigate the parents? 
Keep up?  I jest as I'm sure you realise winkwink !

In answer to your question however, I think that can be answered with a resounding NO!
Or possibly an 'emphatic' No!
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