Re: Sonia Poulton 'Teaser Trailer' out now (4 Oct 2015)

by Guest 28.11.15 0:12

Are we running short of time for a 2015 film?

by Guest 30.11.15 22:47

Saw this earlier on the Cristobellery department of comments..

Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton @ 18th November 2015 wrote:

Regarding Sonia's documentary, whilst I note that your underpants are tightly scrunched and making their way up your alimentary canal, there is little I or Sonia can do. This is a criminal investigation, you need to respect that and perhaps find some alternate viewing for the meanwhile?

by **Tony Bennett** 01.12.15 13:42

Verdi wrote:Saw this earlier on the Cristobellery department of comments..

Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton @ 18th November 2015 wrote:

Regarding Sonia's documentary, whilst I note that your underpants are tightly scrunched and making their way up your alimentary canal, there is little I or Sonia can do. This is a criminal investigation, you need to respect that and perhaps find some alternate viewing for the meanwhile?

Unpleasant reading as is often the case with Hutton.

I think this is the 17th so far in a long, long line of excuses:

Regarding Sonia's documentary, whilst I note that your underpants are tightly scrunched and making their way up your alimentary canal, there is little I or Sonia can do. This is a criminal investigation, you need to respect that and perhaps find some alternate viewing for the meanwhile?

I am now wondering which of the latest excuses trumps the others:

"I'll make it when it has most impact" (last excuse)

or... (this one)

"Wait! - this is a criminal investigation".

It doesn't actually reduce Poulton's credibility any further as it had plummeted to zero many moons ago.

[P.S. It's now 424 days since the documentary was first promised. The SECOND trailer for the documentary, published by Poulton nearly a year ago, was removed from the internet months ago by Poulton as it was too embarrassing to keep it up on YouTube any longer. It promised "things that will really shock you"]

by Liz Eagles 01.12.15 16:22

I sent a letter to Santa and he sent me a photo of his thoughts about the documentary. He apologised for not writing much in response but he's a bit busy at the moment fulfilling his annual commitment and after all, this is the second year I've asked him what he thinks.

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by **Tony Bennett** 01.12.15 17:21

aquila wrote:I sent a letter to Santa and he sent me a photo of his thoughts about the documentary. He apologised for not writing much in response but he's a bit busy at the moment fulfilling his annual commitment and after all, this is the second year I've asked him what he thinks.

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Be careful, @ aquila.

Verdi could see this post and might accuse you of...'cackling'

by Liz Eagles 01.12.15 17:34

Tony Bennett wrote:
aquila wrote:I sent a letter to Santa and he sent me a photo of his thoughts about the documentary. He apologised for not writing much in response but he's a bit busy at the moment fulfilling his annual commitment and after all, this is the second year I've asked him what he thinks.

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Be careful, @ aquila.

Verdi could see this post and might accuse you of...'cackling'

No cackling from my quarter Tony. I'd like to see all Cristobell stuff denied oxygen on the forum. I've noticed there's nothing on MMM about her blog and she's made only a few posts there in the last couple of weeks. Leave Cristobell to her own little world and let it be reported on Jatyk and Sykes blogs to read if need be. Cristobell has had a police warning which hasn't been published on MMM or indeed her blog - she will always continue to write whatever she likes and call CMoMM a cesspit and threaten its members with something or other. Leave her to it.

CMoMM is about what happened to Madeleine McCann, so dump Cristobell - MMM seem to have dumped her at last.

As for the Poulton documentary (the theme of this thread), it is now two Christmas' since there was a promise of a documentary. That was my point.

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 01.12.15 18:00

MMM haven't dumped Cristobell, in fact they feel sympathy for her and Andrew, and don't believe Andrew ever issued a death threat to TB. They're also very cross that Cristobell's crb record has been damaged. (I don't know why you need a crb record to be a vindictive blogger, as usually you only need them if you intend to work with children or vulnerable adults). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Andrew's MMM membership is currently under review with the prospect of him returning to candyfloss's bosom so she can continue to nuture her little 'death threat issuing' troll.

by Liz Eagles 01.12.15 18:12

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:MMM haven't dumped Cristobell, in fact they feel sympathy for her and Andrew, and don't believe Andrew ever issued a death threat to TB. They're also very cross that Cristobell's crb record has been damaged. (I don't know why you need a crb record to be a vindictive blogger, as usually you only need them if you intend to work with children or vulnerable adults). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Andrew's MMM membership is currently under review with the prospect of him returning to candyfloss's bosom so she can continue to nuture her little 'death threat issuing' troll.

You must have access to the inner sanctum of MMM then (you must be a member to see the extra special place dedicated to slating CMoMM, Tony Bennett, Jill Havern and lots of others). On the portal there is nothing. MMM has poor membership numbers and is a bit like a knitting circle - just there to have a bit of a natter of the 'I seem to remember' ilk.

Leave the disgruntled to their disgruntlement (is that a word?).

CMoMM is about finding what happened to Madeleine McCann. It's not a cesspit. It is exploited by people who wish to make a mockery - like any other forum I suppose. Leave Cristobell to her own devices. She's already cleaned MMM out of anyone who ever had a decent opinion. What I'm trying to say is get down to business and discuss the case instead of giving oxygen to an attention seeker.

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 01.12.15 18:33

Nope, not a member, but I do glance at the pro forums who keep a beady eye on proceedings.

by Guest 01.12.15 23:26

Tony Bennett wrote:
Verdi wrote:Saw this earlier on the Cristobellery department of comments..

Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton @ 18th November 2015 wrote:

Regarding Sonia's documentary, whilst I note that your underpants are tightly scrunched and making their way up your alimentary canal, there is little I or Sonia can do. This is a criminal investigation, you need to respect that and perhaps find some alternate viewing for the meanwhile?
Unpleasant reading as is often the case with Hutton.

I think this is the 17th so far in a long, long line of excuses:

Regarding Sonia's documentary, whilst I note that your underpants are tightly scrunched and making their way up your alimentary canal, there is little I or Sonia can do. This is a criminal investigation, you need to respect that and perhaps find some alternate viewing for the meanwhile?

I am now wondering which of the latest excuses trumps the others:

"I'll make it when it has most impact" (last excuse)

or... (this one)

"Wait! - this is a criminal investigation".

It doesn't actually reduce Poulton's credibility any further as it had plummeted to zero many moons ago.

[P.S. It's now 424 days since the documentary was first promised. The SECOND trailer for the documentary, published by Poulton nearly a year ago, was removed from the internet months ago by Poulton as it was too embarrassing to keep it up on YouTube any longer. It promised "things that will really shock you"]

I forgot to post the anonymous comment that warranted that rather eloquent response. So here it is..

Whilst writing I must ask, any sign of Poulton's ' masterpiece '? I bet Star Wars wasn't this long in the making and I certainly can't recall George Lucas spouting so many pathetic, contradictory excuses.

Needless to say, didn't go down too well. Mind like a sewer and mouth like a parish oven. It was "there is little I or Sonia can do..." that grabbed me. What - is she chief gaffer now?

by Mark Willis 02.12.15 15:41

Verdi wrote:
Needless to say, didn't go down too well. Mind like a sewer and mouth like a parish oven. It was "there is little I or Sonia can do..." that grabbed me. What - is she chief gaffer now?

Is that Chief 'Bitch' or Head 'Squisher'?

Anyway, Ant, fear not, for I have employed Metodo3 and a certain Mr Halligen who both assure me that they will have Ms Hutton home for Christmas. (Well, they ran out of free range turkeys....)
However, once again, they have not specified which year Christmas that is.
Or indeed, on which planet....

by **Tony Bennett** 02.12.15 17:03

I have an update from those who attended the Magistrates Court in Wrexham today, where the close associate of Sonia Poulton, James Royden Jones, is on trial on charges under the Harassment and Malicious Communication Acts.

I am informed that (a) the case was adjourned until Monday 25 January and (b) that the police and CPS are to interview other witnesses - with a possibility of further charges being brought against him. Witness protection may have to be offered to some of the witnesses, as things have been getting rather nasty up there.

It seems that one of the charges against Jones is that he has been tweeting various people publicly calling them 'nonces'. Understandably, the police regard such wicked actions very seriously in view of the obvious risks to those so named by the perpetrator.

One of Sonia Poulton's victims, who was seriously harassed by both Poulton and James Jones, was Janette Scharenbourg.

Both sides of the story here for those who want to have a look - but they do give a valuable insight into just how nasty and vicious Poulton can be when she really gets going:

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by Guest 02.12.15 22:48

@TonyBennett

Know you of a rothleypillow? A name I've seen many times in the past - if I remember rightly twittering with the Poulton/Hutton alliance. Haven't seen the name lately, this is not off topic - there is a reason I ask.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.12.15 22:50

Verdi wrote:@TonyBennett

Know you of a RothleyPillow?

Yes.

by Guest 02.12.15 23:09

Tony Bennett wrote:
Verdi wrote:@TonyBennett

Know you of a RothleyPillow?
Yes.

Good news or bad news - that's all I need to know.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.12.15 23:18

Verdi wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Verdi wrote:@TonyBennett

Know you of a RothleyPillow?
Yes.
Good news or bad news - that's all I need to know.

We will have to continue this discussion in private - please send me a 'pm' if you want to know more

by Mark Willis 09.12.15 11:06

Meanwhile, "The Untold Story of.." remains just that.
Fortunately, there are those who put their money...

Therefore I will continue to read here, Tony's archives, Hideho's and mccannfiles.com, remaining somehow unaffected by those who wannabe but don't deliverabe...

by Guest 09.12.15 22:52

Mark Willis wrote:Meanwhile, "The Untold Story of.." remains just that.
Fortunately, there are those who put their money...

Therefore I will continue to read here, Tony's archives, Hideho's and mccannfiles.com, remaining somehow unaffected by those who wannabe but don't deliverabe...

I'll drink to that! After 8.7 years of hard slog, what can any wannabe or wannacan'tbe come up with that hasn't been covered by the excellent bodies you mention? What untold story hasn't already been ~~untold~~ told?

Ode to a froid..

So this is Christmas
And what have you done
Another year over
Dum te dum te dum....

by Guest 09.12.15 22:59

worriedmum wrote:What are you asking Father Christmas for this year?

Me too front teef - or failing that a Mercedes AMG GT S.

sad1

More chance of that than the long awaited documentary.

by Mark Willis 10.12.15 17:27

Verdi wrote:
Mark Willis wrote:Meanwhile, "The Untold Story of.." remains just that.
Fortunately, there are those who put their money...

Therefore I will continue to read here, Tony's archives, Hideho's and mccannfiles.com, remaining somehow unaffected by those who wannabe but don't deliverabe...
I'll drink to that! After 8.7 years of hard slog, what can any wannabe or wannacan'tbe come up with that hasn't been covered by the excellent bodies you mention? What untold story hasn't already been ~~untold~~ told?

Ode to a froid..

So this is Christmas
And what have you done
Another year over
Dum te dum te dum....

LOL!

...
Metodo 3 Christmas
Your cheque's in the post
There's no documentary
Just one idle boast

So Poulton and Mutton
Just what have you done?
A crap teaser trailer
And worse in The Sun

Un-told Story Christmas
Some-thing's not quite right
The whole shooting match is
One great pile of

I'm stuck for a rhyme here, Mr Verdi....

by Guest 10.12.15 20:29

Mark Willis wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Mark Willis wrote:Meanwhile, "The Untold Story of.." remains just that.
Fortunately, there are those who put their money...

Therefore I will continue to read here, Tony's archives, Hideho's and mccannfiles.com, remaining somehow unaffected by those who wannabe but don't deliverabe...
I'll drink to that! After 8.7 years of hard slog, what can any wannabe or wannacan'tbe come up with that hasn't been covered by the excellent bodies you mention? What untold story hasn't already been ~~untold~~ told?

Ode to a froid..

So this is Christmas
And what have you done
Another year over
Dum te dum te dum....
LOL!

...
Metodo 3 Christmas
Your cheque's in the post
There's no documentary
Just one idle boast

So Poulton and Mutton
Just what have you done?
A crap teaser trailer
And worse in The Sun

Un-told Story Christmas
Some-thing's not quite right
The whole shooting match is
One great pile of

I'm stuck for a rhyme here, Mr Verdi....

Permit me to make a small adjustment to give it that certain je ne sais quoi..

Un-told Story Christmas
Will never be heard
The whole shooting match is
One great pile of merde

All those years wasted as Lou Reed's lyricist.

by Mark Willis 10.12.15 20:47

More Stranglers, I think.
Main, c'est tres bon, c'est le Verdi celebre, take a walk on the wild side...
Might as well. You'll be waiting a long time for that perfect day....when all the planets align and the documentary is unbound....

by **Tony Bennett** 11.12.15 21:43

On Day 68 after the 'Teaser Trailer', and Day 433 since Sonia Poulton first promised us her documentary 'that will shock you', her production partner and chief publicist, Rosalinda Hutton

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- who has repeatedly assured us that the documentary will really, definitely, be coming out sometime - has pronounced that the key to understanding this case is that all the Tapas 9 were guilty of no worse than 'neglect'.

This certainly echoes a number of very similar comments made by Sonia Poulton on the Madeleine McCann case over the past year - although usually she is vague to the point of actually telling us nothing at all about what she thinks really happened.

If this is where the not-yet-transmitted documentary is leading us, a lot of researchers and commenters on CMOMM have clearly been wasting their time and barking up the wrong tree.

Here are Hutton's words earlier today:

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Hi 08:37. In my opinion, it is the 'neglect' that binds them all together. The 'collective' decision.

If the McCanns were to face charges of neglect, so too were the rest of the tapas group - they were all doing the same thing. As doctors they knew the enormity of child neglect charges and possible convictions. They would literally lose their livelihoods.

Why on earth would they risk everything by claiming they had neglected their small children, if they hadn't?

In order for all of them walk away scot free they had to convince the authorities (and the world) that their form of child minding fell within the bounds of reasonable parenting. And in their heads, it did. None of them were remorseful, none made excuses, and within hours of Maddie going missing, even the great and good were saying 'doesn't everyone do it'?

It was the kind of propaganda myth that Herr Goebbels [sp.] would have been proud of. Ms. Kelly could barely contain herself from singing birds do it, bees do it. etc.

On the night Maddie went missing, the first message the McCanns and their Tapas friends wanted to get out there, was that they hadn't done anything wrong. So much so, that they were already painting a picture with Madeleine's notebook, of how responsible they were being with their checks on the kids.

ALL of their careers were at risk on the neglect issue alone.

I know there are a number of people out there who argue that there was no neglect. Just can't see it myself, I've yet to see one reason why the other doctors would risk their livelihoods by admitting to a crime of neglect they had not committed.

UNQUOTE

As in most of Hutton's other ramblings on the Madeleine McCann case over the past several years, it is never possible to get a clear view of what she thinks on the No. 1 issue: "What really happened to Madeleine McCann?"

And it doesn't look as though Sonia Poulton is going to give us the answer either

by Guest 11.12.15 23:03

@TonyBennett wrote: As in most of Hutton's other ramblings on the Madeleine McCann case over the past several years, it is never possible to get a clear view of what she thinks on the No. 1 issue: "What really happened to Madeleine McCann?"

And it doesn't look as though Sonia Poulton is going to give us the answer either.

That's because she changes with the wind and swims with the tide. Not, in my opinion, because she listens to and takes opposing views on board that might change her perception of the case but more because she hasn't a clue what she's talking about. Indeed everything I've ever read posted under the name Rosalind, Cristobell Hutton (or whatever other derivation she uses) follows the same pattern, she doesn't appear to have a fixed opinion nor clear idea about anything - not even her personal life.

I don't believe her interest lies in the disappearance of MBM, I believe it's just another subject to cling onto - a platform to spout her bizarre ramblings, there's invariably an undercurrent of plagiarism and/or indirect attack against her critics. If Sonia Poulton's chief adviser and informer is Hutton, it's no wonder the magnum opus is in suspended animation - what hope of 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann' if the producers can't see beyond vacillating opinion based on nothing and the issue of neglect.

The only tantalizing hints (teasers) so far seem to be doorstepping Kate McCann and exposing the fact there was/is no evidence of abduction. The former amounts to zilch on the scale of exposure (as from the teaser it would appear to be staged) and the latter, I think anyone interested in the case sussed out sometime around May 2007. Not wishing to be overly critical (much) but I think the documentary has always been a non starter. It would be preferable, for both their sakes, if they announce a ~~reason~~ excuse why it will never be aired and thus save themselves any further embarrassment. I say they because it does appear to be a joint effort as Ms Hutton is featured in the promotional write-up.

by **Tony Bennett** 11.12.15 23:11

Verdi wrote: It would be preferable, for both their sakes, if they announce a ~~reason~~ excuse why it will never be aired and thus save themselves any further embarrassment. I say they because it does appear to be a joint effort as Ms Hutton is featured in the promotional write-up.

Or to put it another way...

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They've been digging this hole for 433 days and counting!

by Guest 12.12.15 0:15

Tony Bennett wrote:
Verdi wrote: It would be preferable, for both their sakes, if they announce a ~~reason~~ excuse why it will never be aired and thus save themselves any further embarrassment. I say they because it does appear to be a joint effort as Ms Hutton is featured in the promotional write-up.
Or to put it another way...

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They've been digging this hole for 433 days and counting!

Sums it up perfectly - what more need be said.

by **Tony Bennett** 12.12.15 0:45

Verdi wrote:
- what more need be said?

Well, a little bit more perhaps.

It was on 17 July 2012 that Hutton first covered the reported disappearance of Madeleine on her blog, in a piece titled simply: 'Madeleine McCann'.

It is very instructive to go back and look at what she said then. Here are some extracts:

"I have always hesitated to write about this case...

"I became hooked enough to make it my specialist subject, should Mastermind ever give me the call...

"Fortunately there are those dedicated people out there keeping meticulous and easily accessible information - it's that kind of case...

"Gerry McCann should have a standing ovation...the man is a genius, and obviously followed the wrong calling in life.
Whether you like Kate and Gerry or not, they have achieved a marketing campaign, the like of which has never been seen before. It does not surprise me that the charity Missing People have appointed Kate as their ambassador. The name Madeleine McCann still sells newspapers, and that is the bottom line...

"I have read the book of Dr. Amaral...I won't judge him. In all good detective stories, the hero is usually flawed...

"This case has attracted more than its share of fruitloops...

"I have made up my own mind, based on the evidence that exists, though I am always open to persuasion either way, but my gut feeling is, that the parents and their friends, should get themselves ruled out as suspects once and for all. I think this would have been hugely beneficial to the morale and enthusiasm for their search".

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Not surprisingly, these rambling comments caused a great deal of bewilderment all around, so a further blog article appeared two days later to attempt some clarifications. This one was rather pompously titled: 'Madeleine McCann: A Rational Discourse'. For from shedding further light on the confusion of the first piece, this one only made matters worse, with comments like these:

"It is clear to the whole world and its dog, that Kate and Gerry are desperate to find both Madeleine and peace of mind. Apart from coping with the loss of their beloved daughter, they also have to cope with questions about that night for ever more...

"The parents have courted publicity which fuels the gossip further. Unless they retire into obscurity, the questions will never go away. It must be a nightmare situation".

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Some three-and-a-half years further on, what she really thinks about the case is as clear as mud, just as it was on 17 July 2012. Poulton has never made her views about the case clearly known. Both refer to the real issue being 'neglect', but say little else.

Maybe it's just as well that Poulton and Hutton's 'Untold Story' remains untold

by Guest 12.12.15 12:47

Well thanks for that, now I'm really confused! It's nothing but a random selection of words thrown together for effect as with everything she writes - a classic case of 'talks a lot but doesn't say anything'.

This self assumed literary prowess is a dangerous weapon when in the wrong hands, rather like giving a child a loaded gun to play with. No problem if one treats it for all it's worth (nothing in this case) but judging by the anonymous comments she publishes on her blog, she has a small circle of adherents that swallow her every word with praise unbound - unless of course she's talking to herself. Whichever, it puts out the wrong message for anyone that's interested in learning more about the complexity of the case.

The neglect issue has been bashed out so many times over the years, for the most part by the rampant elite circle of know-it-all who aim to scorn absolutely every attempt by the more discerning, to uncover the truth about MBM's disappearance - it would appear that the authorities have no intention of so doing. I've said before and will say again, I just cannot see what Sonia Poulton can reveal that hasn't already been discussed many times over the past 8.7 years, add to that - with the guidance of someone who lacks knowledge and direction, what possible hope can there be of 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann?

I do hope it's not to be presented as a documentary analyzing the case as one might a Hitchcock style Psycho film..

by Guest 18.12.15 22:13

Had to laugh! Alan Carr on the television interviewing cockney actor Danny Dyer about a demand for Ross Kemp to return to the soap Eastenders. From what I could hear above the noise made by the hysterical audience, Dyer was singing the praises of Ross Kemp's BAFTA award winning documentaries and comparing Kemp's success with his own track record of presenting a couple of documentaries.

Danny Dyer said something to this effect (I've left out the expletives) ... well come on be fair - 'e 'ad 'elecopters 'n stuff 'n wot did I 'ave? Some geezer with a camera 'n a bird wiv a clipboard..

laugh

Ring any bells?

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by Mark Willis 19.12.15 9:35

DING DONG!
Yep. For some reason the image of a shrieking, generously-caboosed, Murdoch-shilling-taking, dubious-squeeze-liasoned, troll-squishing-'bitch' affiliated fantasist sprang to mind.
Can I open my "The Untold Story Of How Many Excuses One Person Could Possibly Make About Releasing A Documentary That Was Always Unlikely To See The Light Of Day" selection box now, please?